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Title: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: horsey on June 17, 2008, 12:15:43 PM
he stays far away from  TMZ .that show makes people look like shit really.i have the ught most respect axl never gets caught by them photo hounds.good going axl,ya gotta love that sneaky axl.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on June 17, 2008, 12:18:36 PM
in other words he's not a media whore.....i like that too ;D

:peace:


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: horsey on June 17, 2008, 12:20:53 PM
i don't think the other stars are really either.they are just living there lives really.it just happens they have prey of photoges following them.if it wasn't for that then it would just be normal shppping or whatever.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: CheapJon on June 17, 2008, 12:53:14 PM
the one thing i respecty about axl is his integrity, no one ever steps on that


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Bitch Slap Rappin on June 17, 2008, 01:01:30 PM
He's a very sharp man. He knows how not to prostitute himself to the media. For that matter I think Slash; Duff; Izzy and the rest of them are sort of on the same wave length. That's one of the very great aspects that I always liked about G&R and company. They never fed you any B.S.
They always tried to tell it like it is and I think that's why they've remained an iconic rock group. What's funny is that no one had to die in the band to reach that level. A legendary band that is still alive!!!  :smoking:


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: horsey on June 17, 2008, 01:15:41 PM
that is a good thing they are alive.it was a hard road they took in rock n' roll.the tours and the things (drugs ) that they lived through.it's really amazing why not a reunioun would happen.i wish that more then anything,that they could get alomg fine.they are grown now ya would think.just maybe someone will budge but nope.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: November_Rain on June 17, 2008, 03:00:03 PM
I think he said in an interview that he avoids places where he knows he?s going to have photos taken...or something like that.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: willow on June 17, 2008, 04:30:39 PM
in other words he's not a media whore.....i like that too ;D

:peace:

I'm with you. Its never been about that for him.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Ulises on June 17, 2008, 05:34:38 PM
I think that don't appear on TMZ is not the thing to respect Axl.

I mean...he's a legend of Rock N' Roll, he wrote master-pieces like November Rain or Estranged, he's the spirit and the essence of the band we love and other things worhty of respect...


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: horsey on June 17, 2008, 07:12:41 PM
that wasn't the only thing i respect about axl.i was just saying though.if you must read wayyyy into it.i have alot of respect for the man and his music n' lyrics.if you know anything about me ,YOU WOULD KNOW THAT '


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Jeramy on June 17, 2008, 09:34:24 PM
http://www.tmz.com/search/?q=axl%20rose  ;D

he doesn't ask for it, but they were all over him in 06

man it would take a brave man to disturb axl in public with a camera


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: TomFriend on June 17, 2008, 09:44:28 PM
Yup, courting the paparazzi isn't in his nature, to his credit.

I still find the lack of photos of Axl between 1995 and 2000 staggering. Its no wonder people thought he'd become some sort of hermit.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: lynn1961 on June 18, 2008, 12:06:15 AM
he stays far away from  TMZ .that show makes people look like shit really.i have the ught most respect axl never gets caught by them photo hounds.good going axl,ya gotta love that sneaky axl.

I have an honest question, though.  Is it that he's sneaky and doesn't get caught by the photo hounds? or does he just avoid going out anywhere? 


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Kujo on June 18, 2008, 12:24:40 AM
Probably neither. It means he doesnt have a publicist contacting the paparazzi and letting them know where there client will be that night, so they can keep in the public eye.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on June 18, 2008, 01:13:56 AM
He's a very sharp man. He knows how not to prostitute himself to the media. For that matter I think Slash; Duff; Izzy and the rest of them are sort of on the same wave length.

 :hihi: :hihi: :rofl:

You've gotta be kidding me - I mean Axl yes, Duff yes, Izzy - no one really cares, but Slash???  Are you high?  Walk into a bookstore magazine section and you will find his grill posted on the cover with the 20 year old top hat and the shades, of at least 2 magazines.  Guitar Hero, The Book,  I'm not calling him a whore, but to say him and Axl are on the same wave length??  :rofl:  Pretty funny


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: mrbucketfoot on June 18, 2008, 02:09:00 AM
Not even close. Slash is one of the biggest liars ever. He says "he's not about presenting an image" but rather likes "just going out there and playing a show".

If that were true, why would he always wear his tophat? Or why would continually be dishonest about things that happened with/towards Axl?

He wants to be a huge rock n' roll star without any of the accountability. It's immature. Axl may be this or that, I don't know, but he's direct and upfront and honest about his anger.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: lynn1961 on June 18, 2008, 02:49:39 AM
He's a very sharp man. He knows how not to prostitute himself to the media. For that matter I think Slash; Duff; Izzy and the rest of them are sort of on the same wave length.

 :hihi: :hihi: :rofl:

You've gotta be kidding me - I mean Axl yes, Duff yes, Izzy - no one really cares, but Slash???  Are you high?  Walk into a bookstore magazine section and you will find his grill posted on the cover with the 20 year old top hat and the shades, of at least 2 magazines.  Guitar Hero, The Book,  I'm not calling him a whore, but to say him and Axl are on the same wave length??  :rofl:  Pretty funny
Not even close. Slash is one of the biggest liars ever. He says "he's not about presenting an image" but rather likes "just going out there and playing a show".

If that were true, why would he always wear his tophat? Or why would continually be dishonest about things that happened with/towards Axl?

He wants to be a huge rock n' roll star without any of the accountability. It's immature. Axl may be this or that, I don't know, but he's direct and upfront and honest about his anger.

What?!?  Why bring up Slash?  We were talking about Axl, right?     


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: jazjme on June 18, 2008, 02:52:45 AM
NOT true , not long ago he was on a TMZ, and the facts were so wrong, I wrote a blistering email to them.lol damn I gotta find that. How I went off telling them dont report shit when you dont know shit...etc.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Atillla on June 18, 2008, 03:21:27 AM
He knows how not to prostitute himself to the media. For that matter I think Slash; Duff; Izzy and the rest of them are sort of on the same wave length.

Appearing on Ellen to sell his house....appearing on all shows to sell his book..... mentioning everywere he can you can buy a crappy Epiphone Slash signature guitar...the list goes on but I am too bored now....Slash is an media vvhore pur sang  :peace:

Duff is the same too but he doesn't get as many invitations for being as much of a media vvhore like Slash.

And this is what makes Axl the real deal...he stays real and makes sure the music is the centre.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Jim Bob on June 18, 2008, 03:44:40 AM
this is about Axl.   

But i definitely agree with the original poster's thoughts.   Axl has never been one to bring attention to himself for no reason and his ability to go into hiding for long periods at a time without a peep or a picture, definitely adds to his mystique.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: gunns1 on June 18, 2008, 09:22:58 AM
hahaaha, The thing I love about Axl , is the amount of power the dude has,

I mean, off topic a bit, but at the Sydney Concert last year, the arena's employees were asking everyone if they were catching a Train home, and they did a "rough" head count, to see how many people were, because They had to change the train timetables /delay the trains in accordance to the amount of people their that needed to catch them, because the concert was going to run late..

The man has mystique, power at the touch of his fingers, and He just floats on by the past decade like hes just an average person (until he tours that is)... I think hes a very humble person,


However, in saying that, Dont judge him yet on not being a media whore, because Once chinese democracy is out, you can guarantee that he will be out their promoting it, and doing tv interviews/ etc...

I mean, does he have a choice?


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Bitch Slap Rappin on June 18, 2008, 10:17:37 AM
Well you have to remember that Slash is a guitarist. He's not the front man. Jimmy Page did the same thing in the seventies and still has his integrity intact. : )


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: November_Rain on June 18, 2008, 01:12:09 PM
NOT true , not long ago he was on a TMZ, and the facts were so wrong, I wrote a blistering email to them.lol damn I gotta find that. How I went off telling them dont report shit when you dont know shit...etc.
They don?t care, know why? because shit sells.


However, in saying that, Dont judge him yet on not being a media whore, because Once chinese democracy is out, you can guarantee that he will be out their promoting it, and doing tv interviews/ etc...

I mean, does he have a choice?
That is different. When CD is released he?ll be appearing in the media...etc because promotion is a part of his job, I mean, in 2006 he was all over the place, he was even photographed kissing a woman inside his limo..it was pretty obvious he allowed that as a kind of publicity but I think you?ll hardly see any pics of him doing things like putting petrol to his car, shopping...etc.

He?s been in the music business for a long time, he knows how it all works and he like many other celebrities knows what to do or where not to go in order to avoid paparazzi.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: horsey on June 18, 2008, 02:29:24 PM
he stays far away from  TMZ .that show makes people look like shit really.i have the ught most respect axl never gets caught by them photo hounds.good going axl,ya gotta love that sneaky axl.

I have an honest question, though.  Is it that he's sneaky and doesn't get caught by the photo hounds? or does he just avoid going out anywhere? 






you know i was thinking about that very thing.while reading your quote to me.i allways thought axl just paid them off to stay away.but then i also thought axl could change his apperence so no one would reconize him.or he really stays home or in europe were nobody would  know.only axl knows were axl is right ?


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Jeramy on June 19, 2008, 12:34:03 PM
slash seems to have the  'hey look at me, in was in gnr and im special' attitude while axl comes across more like 'leave me the fuck alone  people, i just sing songs' 

its no wonder these 2 grew apart as soon as they became successful 


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: mrbucketfoot on June 19, 2008, 12:44:16 PM
One thing you gotta respect about Axl is his refusal to compromise. I like that. He wants his vision carried out properly.
You don't see too many people enforcing their principals today.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: horsey on June 19, 2008, 04:16:01 PM
well spoken,i liked that.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Farid Bak on June 19, 2008, 04:52:34 PM
and the music, got to love the music.. lyrics, feeling... good new music indeed  : ok:


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: crazycheryl on June 19, 2008, 05:51:08 PM
Personally I think Axl is a stay at home dude. He probably has anyone he wants to meet with come to his pad. Plus he seems like he likes to be alone. And with Beta around, she probably does a lot of stuff for him. Plus, he probably has some hired help that does the normal crap so the pappo can't catch him doing bs. But I think where he lives is far from the scene and he probably also goes local and there are no pappo staked out in the smaller towns unless they get a tip and Axl would probably beat the piss out of someone who tipped them.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: crazycheryl on June 19, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I totally respect him for this. But damn, he should have been born a Taurus.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: The_Wretched on June 20, 2008, 09:49:35 AM
this is the thing...

celebrities must appear on tabloids/news/event, etc. to be not forgotten and talked about. people talk about axl, know his name/legacy... without him saying shit!!!!

who can say that????

would people talk about paris hilton or lindsay lohan if they weren't half-naked all the time and in and out of rehab???

axl doesn't need to appear to be noticed. he just is... because he is the one and ONLY axl "fucking" rose!!!!

 :peace:



Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: markreed on June 21, 2008, 06:14:26 AM
Axl's out there, living his life, doing his thing. If the paps REALLY wanted to find him, all they had to do was hang around where he lives long enough : I doubt he sits in a hermetically sealed bunker following Howard Hughes Kleenex Protocol. After the 2001 shows, the paps had pictures of him carrying shopping and walking down the road with Beta. If they absolutely wanted to devote enough time and effort to shoot him, I'm sure they could get a photo of him.

As for 2006, well, Axl was all over the world plying his trade : unless he slipped into a coffin and was wheeled in and out of the venue in that and spent the rest of his time in hotel rooms it's inevitable someone would see him eventually walking down teh street or backstage or at an airport or something. It's no big deal.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Lostrose on June 21, 2008, 01:54:35 PM
NOT true , not long ago he was on a TMZ, and the facts were so wrong, I wrote a blistering email to them.lol damn I gotta find that. How I went off telling them dont report shit when you dont know shit...etc.


Sounds like a well educated E-mail.

I agree that Slash sold out.  Adding to the list above, what was that commercial for, where he was standing on a car playing guitar?


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: C0ma on June 21, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
NOT true , not long ago he was on a TMZ, and the facts were so wrong, I wrote a blistering email to them.lol damn I gotta find that. How I went off telling them dont report shit when you dont know shit...etc.


Sounds like a well educated E-mail.

I agree that Slash sold out.  Adding to the list above, what was that commercial for, where he was standing on a car playing guitar?

That was a VW commercial, the car came with a First Act guitar that could be plugged into the stereo.

I love how doing a commercial is selling out... It's not like he optioned an unreleased song to be in a HD commercial.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: crazycheryl on June 26, 2008, 04:10:22 PM
NOT true , not long ago he was on a TMZ, and the facts were so wrong, I wrote a blistering email to them.lol damn I gotta find that. How I went off telling them dont report shit when you dont know shit...etc.


Sounds like a well educated E-mail.

I agree that Slash sold out.  Adding to the list above, what was that commercial for, where he was standing on a car playing guitar?

That was a VW commercial, the car came with a First Act guitar that could be plugged into the stereo.

I love how doing a commercial is selling out... It's not like he optioned an unreleased song to be in a HD commercial.

I want to know how the hell can you play a guitar and still drive? Smart idea!


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Farid Bak on June 26, 2008, 04:15:27 PM
NOT true , not long ago he was on a TMZ, and the facts were so wrong, I wrote a blistering email to them.lol damn I gotta find that. How I went off telling them dont report shit when you dont know shit...etc.


Sounds like a well educated E-mail.

I agree that Slash sold out.  Adding to the list above, what was that commercial for, where he was standing on a car playing guitar?

That was a VW commercial, the car came with a First Act guitar that could be plugged into the stereo.

I love how doing a commercial is selling out... It's not like he optioned an unreleased song to be in a HD commercial.

I want to know how the hell can you play a guitar and still drive? Smart idea!
By having a chofer.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: 29 on June 26, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
NOT true , not long ago he was on a TMZ, and the facts were so wrong, I wrote a blistering email to them.lol damn I gotta find that. How I went off telling them dont report shit when you dont know shit...etc.


Sounds like a well educated E-mail.

I agree that Slash sold out.  Adding to the list above, what was that commercial for, where he was standing on a car playing guitar?

That was a VW commercial, the car came with a First Act guitar that could be plugged into the stereo.

I love how doing a commercial is selling out... It's not like he optioned an unreleased song to be in a HD commercial.

Right. If Slash promotes his book he's selling out. If Axl (someday) promotes his album it's part of the job.  ::)


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: jarmo on June 26, 2008, 07:58:50 PM
Right. If Slash promotes his book he's selling out. If Axl (someday) promotes his album it's part of the job.  ::)

Maybe you shouldn't have said anything because it made you look a bit ignorant considering Slash does both and more!

 :P


This has nothing to do with him so leave him out of the thread.




/jarmo


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: mrbucketfoot on June 26, 2008, 09:33:04 PM
Right. If Slash promotes his book he's selling out. If Axl (someday) promotes his album it's part of the job.  ::)

Personally, I could care less if Slash promotes his or a book.

I have a problem with him promoting a book that contains blatantly false or unfounded
information and promotes it in an underhanded and divisive way. He claims on multiple talk shows that he's
"setting the record straight" when that is nothing more than presenting his skewed opinion as fact. His book is nothing
more than a glorified piece of the muckraking journalism that we've been hearing from the press for years.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Farid Bak on June 27, 2008, 11:16:51 AM
Right. If Slash promotes his book he's selling out. If Axl (someday) promotes his album it's part of the job.  ::)

Maybe you shouldn't have said anything because it made you look a bit ignorant considering Slash does both and more!

 :P


This has nothing to do with him so leave him out of the thread.




/jarmo

do you always have to be so rude?


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: jarmo on June 27, 2008, 11:28:11 AM
Right. If Slash promotes his book he's selling out. If Axl (someday) promotes his album it's part of the job.  ::)

Maybe you shouldn't have said anything because it made you look a bit ignorant considering Slash does both and more!

 :P


This has nothing to do with him so leave him out of the thread.




/jarmo

do you always have to be so rude?



Sorry, I forgot to add "please" at the end of the thread.

Happy now?




/jarmo


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Farid Bak on June 27, 2008, 11:30:39 AM
Right. If Slash promotes his book he's selling out. If Axl (someday) promotes his album it's part of the job.  ::)

Maybe you shouldn't have said anything because it made you look a bit ignorant considering Slash does both and more!

 :P


This has nothing to do with him so leave him out of the thread.




/jarmo

do you always have to be so rude?



Sorry, I forgot to add "please" at the end of the thread.

Happy now?




/jarmo
No Jarmo, and maybe you are not used to people saying this or too used to it, but There were a few post mentioning how slash is a media hore and you didnt mind those, why call ignorant someone that has a diferent opinion, thats all, I know this are your boards, But I also know you want respect to be an important measure here. Please wont do a thing if you are insulting someone.

Actualy sorry this post have nothing to do here, feel free to delete them. i know better, next time ill send you a pm, since im not tryng to start drama


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: jarmo on June 27, 2008, 11:36:52 AM
Somebody else had pointed that out already.

Then a Slash fan tries to make it seem like Axl is doing exactly the same things that Slash is.

Which is totally wrong!




/jarmo


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: daviebuckethead on June 27, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
I thought it was in the best interest of most artists to promote themselves in anway they can, to ensure one thing- they sell the product. If there is noproduct to sell, then self promotion can be to attract interest fom those able to throw some work their way.

take a movie for example, they stars travel the world attending interviews, and different premieres. Sometomes they advertise merchandise to promote the movie.

I dont think that it is bad that axl choses to be more discreet, and in the same way i dont think its amazing that the other person is not. its just two guys who chose to do things their ow prefererred way. How awful can that be?

 : ok:


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Farid Bak on June 27, 2008, 12:00:11 PM
Somebody else had pointed that out already.

Then a Slash fan tries to make it seem like Axl is doing exactly the same things that Slash is.

Which is totally wrong!




/jarmo
Jarmo just out of curiosity how do you call Fans that admire both Axl and Slash?
I used to call them gunners when i was a teen


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: horsey on June 27, 2008, 12:09:42 PM
fair is fair right.everyone needs to make a living no matter how they do it.i may have made the comment about axl not selling out before.but i ment mostly to photo hounds and maybe a bit more.but if slash is feeding his family and whatever more.then so be it again no matter how he does it musicly.everybody can share here in the music world not much more then that a living remember that makin a living.


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: jarmo on June 27, 2008, 12:09:55 PM
Jarmo just out of curiosity how do you call Fans that admire both Axl and Slash?
I used to call them gunners when i was a teen

Not Gunners. Wouldn't that be actual band members?


You seem to think I have something against Slash fans. I don't.

I only have a problem with people who try to make their hero (Slash) look better by saying Axl is doing the same, when it isn't even remotely in the same league. You know, people who make shit up....

They're both free to do what they want. But it's clear that they are the opposites in regards to making appearances in order to promote themselves.



I'm sure the Slash fans will be calling Axl a sell out when he starts talking about the music he's produced.

Like it's the same thing as being on Ellen selling a house....



/jarmo


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Farid Bak on June 27, 2008, 12:25:15 PM
Jarmo just out of curiosity how do you call Fans that admire both Axl and Slash?
I used to call them gunners when i was a teen

Not Gunners. Wouldn't that be actual band members?


You seem to think I have something against Slash fans. I don't.

I only have a problem with people who try to make their hero (Slash) look better by saying Axl is doing the same, when it isn't even remotely in the same league. You know, people who make shit up....

They're both free to do what they want. But it's clear that they are the opposites in regards to making appearances in order to promote themselves.



I'm sure the Slash fans will be calling Axl a sell out when he starts talking about the music he's produced.

Like it's the same thing as being on Ellen selling a house....



/jarmo
I actualy did jarmo thanks for taking the time to clear it up  :peace:


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: 29 on June 27, 2008, 01:48:24 PM
Somebody else had pointed that out already.

Then a Slash fan tries to make it seem like Axl is doing exactly the same things that Slash is.

Which is totally wrong!




/jarmo

For the record I'm a fan of both. I don't think I've posted enough here for anyone to make the assumption that I'm more a fan of one over the other.

My bad if I made it seem like Axl was doing the same as Slash. All I was attempting to point out was how Slash was being called a sell out for promoting his albums/book and, as another poster said, with Axl it was part of the job when CD comes out. A little hypocritical if you ask me, but whatever.

I hope Axl goes out and promotes the hell out CD when it's released. I think his presence has been missed for far too long.

As a side note, who approves all those GN'R shirts, posters, mugs and whatever else places like Spencer's and Hot Topic have? Is that the old band collectively or the current management group?


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Fingers on June 27, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
I gotta believe Axl would have final control over anything saying Guns n Roses-I'm not sure whether Slash and Duff still receive any payments over AFD type merchandise, but there is still a lot of it out there


Title: Re: one thing ya gotta respect about axl.
Post by: Johnnyblood on June 27, 2008, 06:15:40 PM
I think Axl has pretty decisively answered the early 90s criticism that he's mr rockstar attention boy. Whatever he is -- and crazy has to be in there somewhere -- Axl is not mr rockstar attention boy.