Title: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: alejoyp on May 22, 2008, 03:07:01 PM In his unreleased album "Beautiful Disease" (from 1999) there's a song called "Who's To Blame" wich, in Duff words: "It's about the breakup of guns." What do u think about it? or 'bout the lyrics? Though that maybe this is the first impression of the "breakup" of Gn'r from Duff (at least "musical impression") 'coz maybe thsi song was written the year after he left Gn'r... also interesting that he talked about "a breakup" of Gn'R not about he leaving the band... what do u think? Here are the lyrics... (though is a cool song)
Duff McKagan Who's To Blame What did I do today? Some people think I went and threw it away But that was yesterday I can't remember much of that anyway I wonder who's to blame? Or does it really matter much anyway Or if we stayed the same? If anyone of us would be here today ... yeah I don't care about it anymore, so tired of thinking it through I don't care about it anymore, who's to blame me or you? I had so much fun, was going to live so fast and die very young But I was 21, i'm so glad i'm here to sing this song ... yeah I wonder who's to blame? Or does it really matter much anyway? Or if we stayed the same? If anyone of us would be here today ... yeah I don't care about it anymore, so tired of thinking it through I don't care about it anymore, who's to blame me or you? I don't care about it anymore. So tired of thinking it through I don't care about it anymore, who's to blame me or you? Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Ali on May 22, 2008, 05:04:29 PM In his unreleased album "Beautiful Disease" (from 1999) there's a song called "Who's To Blame" wich, in Duff words: "It's about the breakup of guns." What do u think about it? or 'bout the lyrics? Though that maybe this is the first impression of the "breakup" of Gn'r from Duff (at least "musical impression") 'coz maybe thsi song was written the year after he left Gn'r... also interesting that he talked about "a breakup" of Gn'R not about he leaving the band... what do u think? Here are the lyrics... (though is a cool song) Duff McKagan Who's To Blame What did I do today? Some people think I went and threw it away But that was yesterday I can't remember much of that anyway I wonder who's to blame? Or does it really matter much anyway Or if we stayed the same? If anyone of us would be here today ... yeah I don't care about it anymore, so tired of thinking it through I don't care about it anymore, who's to blame me or you? I had so much fun, was going to live so fast and die very young But I was 21, i'm so glad i'm here to sing this song ... yeah I wonder who's to blame? Or does it really matter much anyway? Or if we stayed the same? If anyone of us would be here today ... yeah I don't care about it anymore, so tired of thinking it through I don't care about it anymore, who's to blame me or you? I don't care about it anymore. So tired of thinking it through I don't care about it anymore, who's to blame me or you? I think that Duff has a good perspective on things. He doesn't seem to blaming Axl completely like Slash has done time and again. He at least seems open to the possibility that there were multiple factors at play. Ali Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: alejoyp on May 22, 2008, 05:45:15 PM [/quote] I think that Duff has a good perspective on things. He doesn't seem to blaming Axl completely like Slash has done time and again. He at least seems open to the possibility that there were multiple factors at play. Ali [/quote] Yeah, U're right... I think the song critices the common place of lookin' one to blame... n' how stupid is it... "who's to blame me or you? I don't care about it anymore..." Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Neemo on May 23, 2008, 07:01:27 AM wow good catch...sounds like it is
i think this song from 5 O'Clock is about Axl Quote What do you want to be - (Slash/Matt Sorum/Eric Dover) Sour, this affliction If it was me i'd have it fixed And with everywhere you've been You're much too old to be so naive So what the hell do you want to be Following the trends that never end I can't stand the parties you attend So what the hell do you want with me Oh, you're so underground Oh, ain't that swell Well the word is on the street You're collecting sympathy and then you hide And ya ain't been out in days Will the sunshine burn your face Preserve your precious skin I'll go out, you stay in What the hell do you want to be Following the trends that never end I can't stand the parties you attend So what the hell do you want with me Please don't feed the pigeons Out of the same sad bag of trcks I've heard it all a million times You make me sicker than the wine you drink So if you think I need some help Climb out of your own shell It'll make you think So what the hell do you want to be Following the trends that never end Why is it that I can't stand your friends So what the hell do you want with me What the hell do you want to be Following fashion in the sheets Chasing every other flavor of the week So what the hell do you want from me What do you want to be Looking for anyone who's somebody Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Ali on May 23, 2008, 12:56:37 PM wow good catch...sounds like it is i think this song from 5 O'Clock is about Axl Quote What do you want to be - (Slash/Matt Sorum/Eric Dover) Sour, this affliction If it was me i'd have it fixed And with everywhere you've been You're much too old to be so naive So what the hell do you want to be Following the trends that never end I can't stand the parties you attend So what the hell do you want with me Oh, you're so underground Oh, ain't that swell Well the word is on the street You're collecting sympathy and then you hide And ya ain't been out in days Will the sunshine burn your face Preserve your precious skin I'll go out, you stay in What the hell do you want to be Following the trends that never end I can't stand the parties you attend So what the hell do you want with me Please don't feed the pigeons Out of the same sad bag of trcks I've heard it all a million times You make me sicker than the wine you drink So if you think I need some help Climb out of your own shell It'll make you think So what the hell do you want to be Following the trends that never end Why is it that I can't stand your friends So what the hell do you want with me What the hell do you want to be Following fashion in the sheets Chasing every other flavor of the week So what the hell do you want from me What do you want to be Looking for anyone who's somebody Did Slash write the lyrics for that song? If so, I don't see how Axl follows trends. That's bullshit. Ali Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: JimBobTTD on May 23, 2008, 12:58:47 PM I seem to recall Zakk Wylde saying that Axl was obsessed with following musical trends.
Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Neemo on May 23, 2008, 01:19:09 PM Did Slash write the lyrics for that song? If so, I don't see how Axl follows trends. That's bullshit. Ali we prolly shouldnt get into it in this section but the rumors of the industrial influenced 2000 intentions with Chris Vrenna and Robin Finck and OMG spawning from that era....then there was Axl's fascination with Hip Hop in the 90s and the subsequent Nirvana/Grunge movement, which rumors say axl was also into until Cobain reportedly turned down the offer to open for guns I seem to recall Zakk Wylde saying that Axl was obsessed with following musical trends. yeah there was an interview with him that said that Axl wanted to do something like Pearl Jam was doing anyway slash talks about 5 O'Clock in his book and he mentions some stuff..i've thought that song was about Axl for a while...slash book kinda confirmed it for me though he never out and out specifically named it. Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: alejoyp on May 23, 2008, 01:27:54 PM Mmmm... I don't think that snakepit talked 'bout Axl... but anywyas that seems off topic : ok:
Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Ali on May 23, 2008, 01:36:00 PM I seem to recall Zakk Wylde saying that Axl was obsessed with following musical trends. Listen to the new tracks. They say otherwise. The proof is in the pudding, as they say. Ali Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: JimBobTTD on May 23, 2008, 02:50:22 PM The new tracks are not really relevant to this discussion.
Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Neemo on May 23, 2008, 08:24:47 PM Mmmm... I don't think that snakepit talked 'bout Axl... but anywyas that seems off topic : ok: i didnt mean to run your thread off topic.. :peace: i just thought that i'd post what i felt was another ex gnr members version of that particular time frame considering that Slash had songs about it in 95 and duff had songs about it in 99...you could say they have moved on, and i consider the band to have broken up considering there was only one orig member left....as for axl carrying on the name whatever he has the rights to it so he can do whatever he wants Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: alejoyp on May 23, 2008, 08:55:58 PM Mmmm... I don't think that snakepit talked 'bout Axl... but anywyas that seems off topic : ok: i didnt mean to run your thread off topic.. :peace: i just thought that i'd post what i felt was another ex gnr members version of that particular time frame considering that Slash had songs about it in 95 and duff had songs about it in 99...you could say they have moved on, and i consider the band to have broken up considering there was only one orig member left....as for axl carrying on the name whatever he has the rights to it so he can do whatever he wants That's O.K. man : ok: just the difference is that Duff was explicit saying that the song was about "the breakup of guns", n' 'bout the sankepit song we could just especulate... Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: MikeD on May 24, 2008, 11:59:51 AM can someone upload an mp3 of this song.
Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: volcano62 on May 28, 2008, 06:07:36 PM this is my favorite song on Beautiful Disease
Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: LunsJail on May 29, 2008, 10:40:00 AM Mmmm... I don't think that snakepit talked 'bout Axl... but anywyas that seems off topic : ok: Yes, they did. Slash confirms it in his book and says some of the lyrics were bitter and directed at Axl. Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: alejoyp on May 29, 2008, 03:19:55 PM Mmmm... I don't think that snakepit talked 'bout Axl... but anywyas that seems off topic : ok: Yes, they did. Slash confirms it in his book and says some of the lyrics were bitter and directed at Axl. wow... I didn't know it, actually I didn't read slash book yet... but? wasn't the first snakepit material supossed to be written for Gn'R? n' Axl rejected it? that's maybe a reason :hihi: Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Neemo on May 29, 2008, 05:05:24 PM Mmmm... I don't think that snakepit talked 'bout Axl... but anywyas that seems off topic : ok: Yes, they did. Slash confirms it in his book and says some of the lyrics were bitter and directed at Axl. wow... I didn't know it, actually I didn't read slash book yet... but? wasn't the first snakepit material supossed to be written for Gn'R? n' Axl rejected it? that's maybe a reason :hihi: i said in my post above that Slash said so in his book but whatever.... its a good read i recommend it : ok: as for why he directed the lyrics at axl...things were falling apart at the seams man...anyway he talks about it in depth in his book ;) Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: LunsJail on May 30, 2008, 10:49:29 AM Mmmm... I don't think that snakepit talked 'bout Axl... but anywyas that seems off topic : ok: Yes, they did. Slash confirms it in his book and says some of the lyrics were bitter and directed at Axl. wow... I didn't know it, actually I didn't read slash book yet... but? wasn't the first snakepit material supossed to be written for Gn'R? n' Axl rejected it? that's maybe a reason :hihi: I'm pretty sure the Snakepit music was written for GNR, without lyrics. Slash went back and did those after Axl rejected it. I think that was in the book but don't have it in front of me. Someone correct me if I'm totally off base there. Title: Re: Duff McKagan's "Who's to Blame" Post by: Thorned Rose on May 30, 2008, 12:09:12 PM Yeah that's true. Some of the songs on Snakepit's first cd were Gn'R roughs.
Like the guitars... so that is what Slash wanted Gn'R to sound like, and I would of loved to hear that too! |