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Title: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: guns_n_motley on May 13, 2008, 11:52:02 PM
http://www.withtheband.com.au/2008/05/12/bach-to-basics-sebastien-bach
whole interviews real good...ill just post the GNR parts..

And you got your old friend Axl Rose to sing on Angel Down?

Yeah, it?s an incredible thing. The world has been waiting for Chinese Democracy for a good 15 years and if you want to get a taste of what Axl actually sounds like as of last year, then get Angel Down because he?s on three songs. He sounds incredible! I just can?t believe that in the history of rock he would choose to collaborate on my album.

?Axl texted me right away and asked if I was joining Velvet Revolver, and I said, ?No, not that I know of.??

What have you learned from your friendship with Axl?

He?s a fascinating individual and he does things a lot differently to what I do. He doesn?t do any interviews at all and I do millions of them. It?s an incredible experience to be talking to him before he goes on stage. I?ll be backstage in his room and he carries on a conversation as we?re walking to the stage. The whole [arena] is going nuts and Axl will be telling me about what he did last night or the day before, and he doesn?t break a stride. I?ll be like, ?Well, ok, you?re going on stage now,? and he?ll say, ?Ok, I?ll talk to you later.? He?ll walk out there and all of Sydney?s Acer Arena crowd is like, ?Ahhh, there he is. Oh, my God!? People can?t believe that he?s actually standing there. It?s such an intense moment every night.

It?s a crazy situation, because he doesn?t show himself to too many people and he?s always been there for me. I think it?s funny that when Scott Weiland left Velvet Revolver, the last thing he said was, ?I think Sebastian Bach would be a good choice for you guys.? I think that?s because he?s eluding to the fact that you can?t get away from Guns ?N Roses. They?re like The Beatles or The Rolling Stones. I?m sure he felt frustrated in trying to fill Axl?s shoes. Axl texted me right away and asked if I was joining Velvet Revolver, and I said, ?No, not that I know of.? Axl has been so nice to me, I wouldn?t want to do anything to jeopardise our friendship.

I?m in the middle of all these huge rock icons who are calling me at the same time, and I?m sitting there thinking, ?How does this f**King happen to me?? Axl said to me, ?Dude, the way that you sing is rare.? The way that Axl sings is rare too. There?s not a lot of guys anymore that can sing in the range that we sing in.

Would Axl be unhappy if you were to sing for Velvet Revolver?

I think it would be awkward. I opened for two Guns ?N Roses tours. Axl sang on my record and I sing on Chinese Democracy. We?re very close friends. For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird. But, Angel Down, is what?s in my heart and I can?t wait to get out there and tour it. That?s what I?ll be doing for the foreseeable future.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: surforia on May 13, 2008, 11:59:46 PM
wow... bach sings on Chinese Democracy?  That's the worst news I've heard all week.  Hopefully it's the fourth or fifth album to come out in 2015.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: cineater on May 14, 2008, 12:18:52 AM
Love when Baz talks, always interesting.  Wonder what song he sings on.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 14, 2008, 12:19:26 AM
He sings on Sorry


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 14, 2008, 12:21:27 AM
I usually enjoy Sebastian's interviews...not so sure about this one. :-\


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: D on May 14, 2008, 12:21:55 AM
wow... bach sings on Chinese Democracy?  That's the worst news I've heard all week.  Hopefully it's the fourth or fifth album to come out in 2015.



HAHAHAHAH

that bout made me spit my water out!

FUnny shit! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: misterID on May 14, 2008, 12:59:32 AM
I think Scott suggesting Baz was a pot shot at Slash/or the whole band, nothing more.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: *Timothy* on May 14, 2008, 01:07:37 AM
Love when Baz talks, always interesting.  Wonder what song he sings on.

apparently not interesting enough . the dude has said a bunch of times what the song is..


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Saul on May 14, 2008, 01:38:52 AM
LOL

Axl : R U joining VR? Y/N?

Baz : N

Axl : kk, cya nxt tour!

Baz : kk duuuuuuuuude!!!!!!!

 :hihi:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Limulus on May 14, 2008, 02:00:10 AM
could it be that axl's sms was the final move for Baz now not even considering VR fronting anymore?  ;D


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: lynn1961 on May 14, 2008, 02:38:03 AM
could it be that axl's sms was the final move for Baz now not even considering VR fronting anymore?  ;D

sms?   ???


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Genesis on May 14, 2008, 02:44:16 AM
could it be that axl's sms was the final move for Baz now not even considering VR fronting anymore?  ;D

sms?   ???

What you call 'texting'. The actual name is SMS for Short Messaging Service.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: lynn1961 on May 14, 2008, 02:48:11 AM
Thank you.   ;)   


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: HBK on May 14, 2008, 04:06:03 AM
wow... bach sings on Chinese Democracy?  That's the worst news I've heard all week.  Hopefully it's the fourth or fifth album to come out in 2015.

Wow... This Info Is OLD...


WOUUUWWWWWWWWWWWWW

 :rofl:

HBK *


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: willow on May 14, 2008, 05:56:59 AM
Baz is such a sweetheart.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Atillla on May 14, 2008, 06:30:00 AM
Axl said to me, ?Dude, the way that you sing is rare.?

I highly doubt Axl was the one saying d00d  :peace:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gcluskey on May 14, 2008, 06:37:32 AM
wow... bach sings on Chinese Democracy?  That's the worst news I've heard all week.  Hopefully it's the fourth or fifth album to come out in 2015.

Why? He's an amazing vocalist. His voice and Axl voice blend very well together


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gunns1 on May 14, 2008, 06:39:37 AM
Axl said to me, ?Dude, the way that you sing is rare.?

I highly doubt Axl was the one saying d00d  :peace:


trust me, I bet baz was around axl enough that soon axl will be swinging his microphone 100mph around his head


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Fingers on May 14, 2008, 07:35:14 AM
If not for a close friendship with Axl, I think Sebastian would be in VR right now


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on May 14, 2008, 08:00:24 AM
If not for a close friendship with Axl, I think Sebastian would be in VR right now

If not for a close friendship with Axl, I think Sebastian would be singing in Bobby's Beer & Kareoke Cafe, down the street right now


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: cineater on May 14, 2008, 08:18:10 AM
Love when Baz talks, always interesting.  Wonder what song he sings on.

apparently not interesting enough . the dude has said a bunch of times what the song is..

No he's interesting, it's just I'm highly distracted or it's true what they said about killing brain cells.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Smoking Guns on May 14, 2008, 08:41:07 AM
Sebastain will always be 16 years old.  I highly doubt VR wants him in the band.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Albert S Miller on May 14, 2008, 09:32:06 AM
I really don't see him fitting in with VR at all.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Shoco on May 14, 2008, 09:56:51 AM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LunsJail on May 14, 2008, 10:04:20 AM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: guns_n_motley on May 14, 2008, 10:27:04 AM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


I think baz alluded in another interview that Axl gave him permission to talk about this stuff...


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ppbebe on May 14, 2008, 10:41:34 AM
the little details like how he goes to stage? that's just fun to listen. can't see the harm.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jim Bob on May 14, 2008, 10:44:32 AM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


no, VR isn't basically Guns minus Axl.   They do perform GnR songs every single show they play.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on May 14, 2008, 10:57:16 AM
He's basically taking another shot at VR, saying they were just a Gnr knockoff


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Fingers on May 14, 2008, 11:00:40 AM
He's basically taking another shot at VR, saying they were just a Gnr knockoff

I don't think it's so much knocking VR as it is showing repsect to Axl-the usually maybe do about 3 songs during the set of GNR, more towards the end of the tour-I also do think this is the phone call Baz got about the same time VR were in the middle of all this mess when Baz had said in an intervew that he just got a phone call that would "change his life", or something like that


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Smoking Guns on May 14, 2008, 11:16:53 AM
He's basically taking another shot at VR, saying they were just a Gnr knockoff

I don't think it's so much knocking VR as it is showing repsect to Axl-the usually maybe do about 3 songs during the set of GNR, more towards the end of the tour-I also do think this is the phone call Baz got about the same time VR were in the middle of all this mess when Baz had said in an intervew that he just got a phone call that would "change his life", or something like that



Baz would be everything VR shouldn't want right now.  I like Baz, but if you want a blue collar singer as Slash says, Baz wouldn't be that guy.  He is the ultimate Prima Donna.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: horsey on May 14, 2008, 11:21:46 AM
 :P
i love that axl just texted at will.you know he's out there an knows what's up.axl lurks around just knowing what's going on with things.it's kinna funny axl knows oooohhhhhwwweeee kool '
i find axl amazing really i do.you just never know what he is up too.that axl rose. :beer:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Atillla on May 14, 2008, 11:28:18 AM
no, VR isn't basically Guns minus Axl.

I agree, to even resemble something like Guns they should have at least a little bit of quality which they lack in tons :love:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: russtcb on May 14, 2008, 11:50:14 AM
wow... bach sings on Chinese Democracy?  That's the worst news I've heard all week.  Hopefully it's the fourth or fifth album to come out in 2015.

I can't believe you just heard that news this week. That bit of "news" is about a year or so old.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: russtcb on May 14, 2008, 11:51:59 AM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I would guess because they'd be playing VR's hits which aren't that many, some Skids hits which aren't that many and the the most healthy catalog to draw from would ofcourse be GNR. It's sounding as if it's something none of us will have to worry about anyway.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: The_Wretched on May 14, 2008, 11:52:54 AM
Sebastain will always be 16 years old.  I highly doubt VR wants him in the band.

yup!!! did you see him on that superband show on VH1. he throws fits for absolutely no reason and is quite the primadonna...

wouldn't want him as my lead singer... i'd have to kick his ass overy other day.

if VR didn't put up with Weiland... you think they're gonna put up with sebastian's " i can't do a photoshoot... i have to go jog!!!!"



Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: HBK on May 14, 2008, 12:54:04 PM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


The Funny Moment TODAY

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

HBK *


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: mrbucketfoot on May 14, 2008, 01:06:17 PM
axl: r u joining vr?
baz: wtf lollercopter noez
axl: k haha
baz: u r craze
axl: omg my bff jill baz


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LunsJail on May 14, 2008, 01:38:20 PM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


I think baz alluded in another interview that Axl gave him permission to talk about this stuff...

You're right, I'd forgotten about that.

For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


no, VR isn't basically Guns minus Axl.   They do perform GnR songs every single show they play.

C'mon people.  VR doesn't strike you as Guns trying to reform without Axl.  Even Izzy was involved in the early going.  However, I never said they resemble GNR in terms of sound or quality.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Aero on May 14, 2008, 01:44:27 PM
Sebastain will always be 16 years old.  I highly doubt VR wants him in the band.

Actually, Sebastian got pissed off when slash didn't call him for 'the project'. Look for pre-vr interviews and post-vr.

He says NO to vr because he already wanted to play there and wasnt even invited to audition. And because he picks every chances he has to mention how great is Axl, and to mention his new album.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: CheapJon on May 14, 2008, 01:46:11 PM
Sebastain will always be 16 years old.  I highly doubt VR wants him in the band.

Actually, Sebastian got pissed off when slash didn't call him for 'the project'. Look for pre-vr interviews and post-vr.

He says NO to vr because he already wanted to play there and wasnt even invited to audition. And because he picks every chances he has to mention how great is Axl, and to mention his new album.

actually he did sing with them but slash thought it sounded too 80's and too much like skid row...


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: slashisvr on May 14, 2008, 02:04:48 PM
Sebastain will always be 16 years old.  I highly doubt VR wants him in the band.

Actually, Sebastian got pissed off when slash didn't call him for 'the project'. Look for pre-vr interviews and post-vr.

He says NO to vr because he already wanted to play there and wasnt even invited to audition. And because he picks every chances he has to mention how great is Axl, and to mention his new album.

actually he did sing with them but slash thought it sounded too 80's and too much like skid row...

which would have rocked the shit  :yes:



Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Thorned Rose on May 14, 2008, 03:47:46 PM
It's really stupid. I would love to see Bach in VR. I think they all would get along well.

Bach needs to get off Axl's ass and do something productive. His solo cd was good, I admit... but join a band man!


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: D on May 14, 2008, 03:49:28 PM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


The Funny Moment TODAY

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

HBK *


Whats so funny?

VR are GNR minus Axl, They do have 3/5ths of the former members. U add Axl to VR and they magically become GNR plus Dave.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2008, 03:51:01 PM
It's really stupid. I would love to see Bach in VR. I think they all would get along well.

Bach needs to get off Axl's ass and do something productive. His solo cd was good, I admit... but join a band man!

Recording his own solo album and touring the world isn't productive?

 ::)


The last thing he needs to do is to join a bunch of people who rejected him the first time back when he didn't have a new solo album out and hadn't toured the world.




VR are GNR minus Axl,

VR are a bunch of people who quit GN'R years ago.

They didn't want to be in GN'R so stop referring to them as "GN'R minus Axl".

GN'R minus Axl is the guys you see on top of this page. It's 2008. Not 1992.





/jarmo


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: crow316 on May 14, 2008, 04:04:24 PM
Its 2008 and the guys at the top of the page have NEVER released any material in a band called Guns N Roses.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Thorned Rose on May 14, 2008, 04:04:43 PM
Well yeah, I agree with D.

They are Gn'R minus Axl and Izzy or Gilby.

If you throw i Axl you get Gn'R plus Dave...

simply easy baby


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Atillla on May 14, 2008, 04:08:56 PM
Well yeah, I agree with D.

They are Gn'R minus Axl and Izzy or Gilby.

If you throw i Axl you get Gn'R plus Dave...

simply easy baby

Not with that mediocre songwriting of VR no....

Is this the VR section, I must have clicked the wrong button?  ???


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jim Bob on May 14, 2008, 04:14:17 PM
Well yeah, I agree with D.

They are Gn'R minus Axl and Izzy or Gilby.

If you throw i Axl you get Gn'R plus Dave...

simply easy baby

how the hell can that be when the admin of the site just explained to you who "gnr minus axl" is and showed you?   the vr guys are former gnr members, way way way over a decade ago. 


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Thorned Rose on May 14, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
the vr section?

that must mean I can't mention anyone but axl's name ... got ya.. lmao :yes:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Atillla on May 14, 2008, 04:22:28 PM
the vr section?

that must mean I can't mention anyone but axl's name ... got ya.. lmao :yes:

Going on and on about VR being GnR minus Axl is just retarded. Be a nice boy, drink your milk and sleep already  :peace:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 14, 2008, 04:31:58 PM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

I think he's alluding to the fact that VR is basically Guns minus Axl.  But you're right, they don't do but so many GNR songs.  I wonder at what point Axl gets tired of Baz spilling all these little details to the press.  Dude, there's a reason he doesn't do interviews.


The Funny Moment TODAY

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

HBK *


Whats so funny?

VR are GNR minus Axl, They do have 3/5ths of the former members. U add Axl to VR and they magically become GNR plus Dave.

They are actually 2 guys who quit the band and one former employee who didn't receive a single writing credit on any GnR song, released or unreleased. 

They tried to market themselves that way, unfortunately for them the music proved that it wasn't true


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: daviebuckethead on May 14, 2008, 04:49:01 PM
It's really stupid. I would love to see Bach in VR. I think they all would get along well.

Bach needs to get off Axl's ass and do something productive. His solo cd was good, I admit... but join a band man!

Recording his own solo album and touring the world isn't productive?

 ::)


The last thing he needs to do is to join a bunch of people who rejected him the first time back when he didn't have a new solo album out and hadn't toured the world.




VR are GNR minus Axl,

VR are a bunch of people who quit GN'R years ago.

They didn't want to be in GN'R so stop referring to them as "GN'R minus Axl".

GN'R minus Axl is the guys you see on top of this page. It's 2008. Not 1992.





/jarmo

so what would it be called if axl relinquished the name, joined VR, and richard and Robin took the reigns of the band named Guns n Roses?

would this site be dedicated to Axl, Slash, Duff, Matt (4 ex members of GnR), and dave. or the entity known as GnR without Axl?

just asking, because it isn't just you who can be pedantic Jarmo.....


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2008, 04:54:15 PM
Its 2008 and the guys at the top of the page have NEVER released any material in a band called Guns N Roses.

So?

They're still Guns N' Roses.


Snakepit wasn't GN'R minus Axl, Duff and Dizzy. It was Snakepit.



They quit GN'R and started a new band with a new name.



By the way, if you choose to disregard everything else, there can't be "GN'R minus Axl". Because without Axl, there is no GN'R to begin with.

 : ok:




so what would it be called if axl relinquished the name, joined VR, and richard and Robin took the reigns of the band named Guns n Roses?

would this site be dedicated to Axl, Slash, Duff, Matt (4 ex members of GnR), and dave. or the entity known as GnR without Axl?

just asking, because it isn't just you who can be pedantic Jarmo.....


That's very likely to happen.


The reality is, GN'R is a band today and it was nothing to do with these people that Scott left behind.




/jarmo


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LunsJail on May 14, 2008, 05:11:23 PM
I didn't really mean to start a shit storm here.  But if you want to split hairs I guess I should have said "VR is basically trying to be Guns minus Axl."


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: marknroses on May 14, 2008, 05:23:45 PM
I would like to see Axl finally put out the record as much as anybody on these message boards

HOWEVER: If the album doesn't come out by the end of 2008, Baz needs to reconsider his role in the GNR universe and shift into a middle-man position in order to reconcile Axl with his former bandmates.

I believe his pandering to Axl is sincere and that Axl showed him very high-quality and excellent recordings of new GNR music. But if the record label is nervous to release a new GNR record because of lack of identity (missing Slash) and therefore missed music sales (especially with a sluggish economy and record sales), something must be done to have a reaffired GNR identity that the entire public can dig in. Considering that Axl has all his songs and VR have their songs, they already have the material to work on together.

Anything is better than nothing at this rate:

Mark N Roses


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2008, 05:27:32 PM
But if the record label is nervous to release a new GNR record because of lack of identity

Where did this theory come from?


It sounds more like somebody making up a theory in order to validate his own reunion wishes.


There's a whole thread for those dreams in the Dead Horse section.


I suggest you go post them there instead of using a thread about how Baz isn't joining VR.  : ok:




/jarmo


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Aero on May 14, 2008, 05:38:50 PM
Well yeah, I agree with D.

They are Gn'R minus Axl and Izzy or Gilby.

If you throw i Axl you get Gn'R plus Dave...

simply easy baby

Not with that mediocre songwriting of VR no....

Is this the VR section, I must have clicked the wrong button?  ???

Hahaha !
I'm sorry, but Fall to Pieces or most of VR songs has more arrangements, fixes, and creativity than... madagascar, for example, wich are 3 chords for 5 minutes with a DJ mix of voices in the middle.

Both bands (vr, and gnr 2008 lineup) are great, I like vr songs and madagascar or other "new" songs, but it's a little risky to say that about VR songwriting.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: marknroses on May 14, 2008, 05:42:24 PM
But if the record label is nervous to release a new GNR record because of lack of identity

Where did this theory come from?


It sounds more like somebody making up a theory in order to validate his own reunion wishes.


There's a whole thread for those dreams in the Dead Horse section.


I suggest you go post them there instead of using a thread about how Baz isn't joining VR.  : ok:




/jarmo

Baz doesn't have to join VR. Axl does or vice versa or should eventually consider it.

Given Baz's relations with both parties, he has an ability to do more to mend relations that any fan or GNR website can do. Axl can only beef with his former bandmates so long and be hindered in his progress to achieve his own name with new players that come and go through a revolving door before time becomes a serious liability and undercuts any musical statement that Axl ever wanted to achieve.

There is no precedent to what has happened to these new GNR albums in music history or the history of any published item in all of Western civilization. Its already May 2008, over a year and two months since Axl himself put out a release date for the new albums. He should either find a new label, make his own label, or follow Baz into the conference room with his former bandmates and try to bring it back together if that gets record company interest to release anything with GNR on it.

Considering the success of the GNR Greatest His album with most of these older players on it, I think the record company wouldn't hestitate as much to release an album with Axl and Slash on it again.

MNR


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2008, 05:46:08 PM
He should either find a new label, make his own label, or follow Baz into the conference room with his former bandmates and try to bring it back together if that gets record company interest to release anything with GNR on it.


Do you work in the music business?

It sure sounds like it with all the "he should"s in your post.




I'm glad you support GN'R so much that you want force Axl to do a reunion with people who haven't been supportive of him.



Please take your reunion theories to the Dead Horse section. I won't ask nicely again.




/jarmo


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Sharky-dude on May 14, 2008, 05:51:18 PM
Yeah, give it up dude. For the life of me I don't understand how you fugure gnr can't be sucssesful in therir present form. Or how you think axl (or slash for that matter )would even want to get back together. Or why baz would wanna be in between? it makes no sense


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Ulises on May 14, 2008, 06:16:50 PM
This is true?

Maybe Bach needs some promotion  ::)


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Perfect Criminal on May 14, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
He should either find a new label, make his own label, or follow Baz into the conference room with his former bandmates and try to bring it back together if that gets record company interest to release anything with GNR on it.


Do you work in the music business?

It sure sounds like it with all the "he should"s in your post.




I'm glad you support GN'R so much that you want force Axl to do a reunion with people who haven't been supportive of him.



Please take your reunion theories to the Dead Horse section. I won't ask nicely again.




/jarmo


I don't care one way or the other about a reunion, but I don't think he really cares who supported who and who didn't.  People who support a GNR reunion only care about what that group did when they were together....which is some pretty incredible shit.  Yea, Slash didn't want to go Axl's way with GNR, no biggie.  People don't always see eye to eye.  But the thought of another GNR album by original GNR is mouthwatering to some.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: horsey on May 14, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
yes to some who still have hope of a reunion.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: guns_n_motley on May 14, 2008, 06:52:09 PM
just food for though, people keep saying that VR is 3 GNR members, but Matt sorum was a replacement drummer, No??

so hes realy no different than the members of GNR now...


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 14, 2008, 07:06:05 PM
just food for though, people keep saying that VR is 3 GNR members, but Matt sorum was a replacement drummer, No??

so hes realy no different than the members of GNR now...

He's actually lower.  The people in the band now, in addition to former members like Buckethead, Josh Freese, Paul Huge, and so on have actually written songs for GnR.  Even if the songs haven't been released, they've creatively contributed to GnR songs that have been recorded and played live

Hell, people who have never been in GnR like Del, West Arkeen, and Chris Weber have more writing credits for GnR than Sorum.

This is why it's always hilarious to me when Sorum tries to act like he was a "real" member but Paul Huge wasn't.  Paul Huge actually co-wrote a song that appeared on UYI, and co-wrote another official release with Oh My God.  Which is more than Sorum can say.  Sorum is to date the only person who has ever been "fired" or kicked out, which is why he's been referred to as a former employee and why he's listed as an additional musician on Live Era

Of course there's a group of "fans" who think that Sorum and Gilby were "real" members but Robin, Richard, Tommy, etc are not, but most of them don't let logic get in the way of their arguments


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Shoeboy517 on May 14, 2008, 07:15:19 PM
Baz just gave another interview.  Apparently he won't be fronting Aerosmith or Judas Priest either.  Not that anybody asked.






Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: D on May 14, 2008, 07:25:37 PM
It's really stupid. I would love to see Bach in VR. I think they all would get along well.

Bach needs to get off Axl's ass and do something productive. His solo cd was good, I admit... but join a band man!

Recording his own solo album and touring the world isn't productive?

 ::)


The last thing he needs to do is to join a bunch of people who rejected him the first time back when he didn't have a new solo album out and hadn't toured the world.




VR are GNR minus Axl,

VR are a bunch of people who quit GN'R years ago.

They didn't want to be in GN'R so stop referring to them as "GN'R minus Axl".

GN'R minus Axl is the guys you see on top of this page. It's 2008. Not 1992.





/jarmo


Jarmo, I think u have finally lost your mind.

So lets say Axl quit the music business or died.

Do u think Tommy,Robin, Bumble etc etc would hire a new singer and keep the GNR name?

And u would support that?

Give me a break.

Just because the former members arent currently in GNR, that still doesnt take away from the fact that they are the members with Axl that made the band what it is historically.

So yes, they will always be GNR regardless if they are in the band or not. Thats like saying Robert Plant is no longer Led Zeppelin because he is solo and playing with Allison Krauss.



Sebastian is an idiot if he doesnt do something he wants to do because of Axl.

if Axl is his true friend, he will support him no matter what, not just because Baz is a yes man who kisses his ass.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Smoking Guns on May 14, 2008, 07:28:17 PM
Jarmo, Mark N Roses is a good poster.  I think he was cracking more on Baz than anything.  I agree that Baz needs to just shut the fuck up and to an extent Del too.  Cause they both are terrible at indirectly insulting people.  The album will be here soon enough.  I don't know what the fuck there is to negotiate at this point, none of my business I guess.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 14, 2008, 07:29:31 PM


Sebastian is an idiot if he doesnt do something he wants to do because of Axl.

if Axl is his true friend, he will support him no matter what, not just because Baz is a yes man who kisses his ass.

So if you had a chance to hook up with your best friend's ex-wife, you would do it and expect him to support you?


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: D on May 14, 2008, 07:30:43 PM
If it was something that made me very happy

Its not like GNR broke up a year ago

Its been over a decade.

So yes, If I met my best friends Ex wife 10 years later and it was a perfect match and we made each other happy and he had moved on to someone else and was happy.

why not?


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: D on May 14, 2008, 07:33:42 PM
Matt Sorum sucks

I hate him

BUT

he is a just a tad higher because he played on a few albums and toured for years.

SO, no he isnt an original member or even what I consider a TRUE member but he is a little higher than any drummer since.

That being said, it is strange that Bach was talkin about receiving a call that would change his life.

We all thought a GNR tour which has proven to be false.

Surely he wasnt talking about opening for Poison.

So..........

If u really carefully read Baz' interviews. He wants to do this. He dont want to be a cover guy *considering what he is doing now with the country and rap tv reality shit I dont know why* but if VR want him to be a serious band, He'd jump all over it with even the smallest blessing from Axl.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Continental Drift on May 14, 2008, 07:47:51 PM
Sebastian is an idiot if he doesnt do something he wants to do because of Axl.

100% agreed. You can't live your life aiming to please other people... even people you love or care for. Axl certainly doesn't. IF Baz desperately wants the VR gig... he should go for it. And I actually think Axl would eventually respect that at some level. I'm not convinced Baz desperately wants the VR gig though...

if Axl is his true friend, he will support him no matter what, not just because Baz is a yes man who kisses his ass.

I don't know about that... keep in mind that by joining VR- Baz would be joining a group of musicians who have already sued Axl at least once and who Axl believes betrayed him (of course the feeling's mutual- but you get the point). Not sure I could stay "buddy buddy" with a best-friend who joined up in business with another competitor with whom I had had a long and acrimonious history. I may "understand" the decision and wish 'em the best... but "support"... no way.



Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Continental Drift on May 14, 2008, 07:54:08 PM
Matt Sorum sucks

I hate him

BUT

he is a just a tad higher because he played on a few albums and toured for years.

SO, no he isnt an original member or even what I consider a TRUE member but he is a little higher than any drummer since.

Agreed. Sorum (love 'em or hate 'em... and most hate) and Gilby are Gunners for manning the kit and playing rhythm through the UYI madness. Sorum's a "Gunner" for the YCBM intro and November Rain drumming alone IMHO.... That was petty on Axl's part to list him as an "additional musician" on Live Era... and I suspect it might have been one of things discussed and put behind them when they bumped into each other in New York 2 years ago...


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2008, 07:54:52 PM
Do u think Tommy,Robin, Bumble etc etc would hire a new singer and keep the GNR name?

Obviously you can't read. I said there's no GN'R without Axl.

It's been like that since day one. Read your history books.





Sebastian is an idiot if he doesnt do something he wants to do because of Axl.

I guess loyalty to your friends mean nothing to you.

Thank God others actually value true friendship instead of just looking at ways to make the most money.


Now take your Matt Sorum ass kissing to the VR section where it belongs.

I find it amazing how much credit you want to give people who chose to quit GN'R and still consider them "GN'R without Axl" when in fact there wouldn't be a GN'R without Axl.




/jarmo


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: D on May 14, 2008, 08:00:03 PM
I said Matt Sorum sucks and I hate him

he is higher than Paul Huge and buckethead and Brain on the list of former members though

how is that kissing his ass?

He did play on 3 albums and toured the world for several years with GNR and came in during a bad situation and helped them get their albums finished.


 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


U said without Axl the former members would be the guys listed at the top of the page so by your rationale, if Robin does indeed leave and stay with NIN permantely, he would be more of a GNR member than Slash?

I dont get it.


Axl and Tracii Guns started GNR but I've heard the Hollywood Rose thing, and I dont think Axl would be who he is today with Tracii Guns and a b unch of other guys. thats my opinion. I think they all collectively made each other.


OK

After careful reconsidering, U guys are right and I was wrong.

That would be pretty shitty for Baz to join VR.

I totally wasnt looking at it from that angle of all the shit they did to Axl

So my apologies for that. : ok:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2008, 08:08:34 PM
U said without Axl the former members would be the guys listed at the top of the page so by your rationale, if Robin does indeed leave and stay with NIN permantely, he would be more of a GNR member than Slash?

How do you work?

Really.

Look at the pics at the top:

Frank, Ron, Richard, Dizzy, Brain, Tommy, Chris, Axl, Robin.


Now, let's play the GN'R minus game.

GN'R minus Axl.

So we have Frank, Ron, Richard, Dizzy, Brain, Tommy, Chris, Axl, Robin.

Now we need to remove Axl from that list because minus means that. You remove something.

What do we have left?

Frank, Ron, Richard, Dizzy, Brain, Tommy, Chris, Robin.


That would be "GN'R minus Axl".  : ok:


If Robin left, his replacement would be the group referred to as "GN'R minus Axl".






/jarmo


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: HBK on May 14, 2008, 08:12:25 PM
This Thread Is LOST.

HB K*


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jim Bob on May 14, 2008, 08:13:49 PM
i can't believe some of you trolls still come here hoping for a reunion when you already know thats not what we are about here.   anything to cause a stir right?   have you ever considered how pathetic it is to dwell on something so far in the past and isn't likely to happen?


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Nytunz on May 14, 2008, 08:20:25 PM
i can't believe some of you trolls still come here hoping for a reunion when you already know thats not what we are about here.   anything to cause a stir right?   have you ever considered how pathetic it is to dwell on something so far in the past and isn't likely to happen?

It could happen sometime in the far future, but like you said James Robert, why dwell on it? We have lots of new GNR material in front of us!
Im wishing Velvet Revolver all the best, and hope thay find a great new vocalist, but what i want most of everything right now, is listening
to some Chinese Democracy! And its right around the corner! Crazy days are back again =)


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: HBK on May 14, 2008, 08:21:22 PM
i can't believe some of you trolls still come here hoping for a reunion when you already know thats not what we are about here.   anything to cause a stir right?   have you ever considered how pathetic it is to dwell on something so far in the past and isn't likely to happen?

Friend... take It easy...


The Reunion Exist, By Next World Tour Of GNR...

Robin, Tommy,.Axl, BBFT, etc.. ALL Together... THIS Reunion. Kick Ass By Minory Parlant.

 :beer:

HBK *


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Voodoochild on May 14, 2008, 09:05:27 PM
Aero, I thought you were a musician.. Comparing that FTP cliche shit with Madagascar was really insane. Ever heard about layers and arrangement?

i can't believe some of you trolls still come here hoping for a reunion when you already know thats not what we are about here.   anything to cause a stir right?   have you ever considered how pathetic it is to dwell on something so far in the past and isn't likely to happen?
Thank you. That's exactly what's going on... People are getting anything in any thread just to stir shit up.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ben9785 on May 14, 2008, 09:10:14 PM
I just can't wait for the new album to come out so this never-ending 'reunion' gossip and all the other  continually rehashed topics relating to the past disappear for good.

Sure maybe one day they'll reunite blah blah blah blah blah..

Right now we are in the present, waiting for good things which hopefully will be coming soon..


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: D on May 14, 2008, 09:11:49 PM
I dont want a reunion.

I want Chinese Democracy and the other albums

Now, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I want every member past and present to jam.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: jarmo on May 14, 2008, 09:24:29 PM
I dont want a reunion.

And that's the last mention on the subject in this thread.




/jarmo


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: estebanf on May 14, 2008, 10:13:47 PM
Comparing Madagascar with that UYI wannabe crap is simply sick.

Honestly, Bach shouldn't even consider joining VR, but not for the ''loyalty'' thing.

He should not join them because VR, today, is a one way ticket to destroy any artist career.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jim Bob on May 14, 2008, 10:19:40 PM
Baz shouldn't do VR because Angel Down is better than either of their albums.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: estebanf on May 14, 2008, 10:37:41 PM
Baz shouldn't do VR because Angel Down is better than either of their albums.

Agreed. ''Angel Down'' rocks very hard.

But some artists can resign music quality for greater sales/success.

Oh, I forgot ''Libertad'' was a spectacular failure  :peace:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Smoking Guns on May 15, 2008, 12:23:05 AM
Baz shouldn't do VR because Angel Down is better than either of their albums.

Agreed. ''Angel Down'' rocks very hard.

But some artists can resign music quality for greater sales/success.

Oh, I forgot ''Libertad'' was a spectacular failure  :peace:

This is the last negative VR comment in this thread.  Bash VR in the VR section.  Bash Bach here.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: HBK on May 15, 2008, 02:07:20 AM
Baz shouldn't do VR because Angel Down is better than either of their albums.

Agreed. ''Angel Down'' rocks very hard.

But some artists can resign music quality for greater sales/success.

Oh, I forgot ''Libertad'' was a spectacular failure  :peace:

This is the last negative VR comment in this thread.  Bash VR in the VR section.  Bash Bach here.

Angel Down ROCKIN'... Libertad... NOT, This Thread Is Of BAZ Whit Comments Of AXL Of GNR & VR... He' Not Join.-

HBK *


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Fingers on May 15, 2008, 07:34:00 AM
he can't join VR anyway, he's going to be busy on Gone Country 2, the reality show-I don't get that one, I've seen the show, it's pretty bad-keep on rockin, Baz


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Atillla on May 15, 2008, 07:46:30 AM
Well yeah, I agree with D.

They are Gn'R minus Axl and Izzy or Gilby.

If you throw i Axl you get Gn'R plus Dave...

simply easy baby

Not with that mediocre songwriting of VR no....

Is this the VR section, I must have clicked the wrong button?  ???

Hahaha !
I'm sorry, but Fall to Pieces or most of VR songs has more arrangements, fixes, and creativity than... madagascar, for example, wich are 3 chords for 5 minutes with a DJ mix of voices in the middle.


Fall to Pieces is quality songwriting if you are a 12 year old girl feeling the hassles of puberty, I guess  :peace:

Just because a song has more cliche chord progressions than another doesn't mean it has more quality. In fact, if you believe that, then you would exclusively listen to classical music, never rock music  : ok:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: PrimaDonna on May 15, 2008, 07:53:04 AM
Well yeah, I agree with D.

They are Gn'R minus Axl and Izzy or Gilby.

If you throw i Axl you get Gn'R plus Dave...

simply easy baby



Not with that mediocre songwriting of VR no....

Is this the VR section, I must have clicked the wrong button?  ???

Hahaha !
I'm sorry, but Fall to Pieces or most of VR songs has more arrangements, fixes, and creativity than... madagascar, for example, wich are 3 chords for 5 minutes with a DJ mix of voices in the middle.


Fall to Pieces is quality songwriting if you are a 12 year old girl feeling the hassles of puberty, I guess  :peace:

Just because a song has more cliche chord progressions than another doesn't mean it has more quality. In fact, if you believe that, then you would exclusively listen to classical music, never rock music  : ok:

What a load of crap...


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gunns1 on May 15, 2008, 07:57:57 AM
Well yeah, I agree with D.

They are Gn'R minus Axl and Izzy or Gilby.

If you throw i Axl you get Gn'R plus Dave...

simply easy baby



Not with that mediocre songwriting of VR no....

Is this the VR section, I must have clicked the wrong button?  ???

Hahaha !
I'm sorry, but Fall to Pieces or most of VR songs has more arrangements, fixes, and creativity than... madagascar, for example, wich are 3 chords for 5 minutes with a DJ mix of voices in the middle.


Fall to Pieces is quality songwriting if you are a 12 year old girl feeling the hassles of puberty, I guess  :peace:

Just because a song has more cliche chord progressions than another doesn't mean it has more quality. In fact, if you believe that, then you would exclusively listen to classical music, never rock music  : ok:

What a load of crap...


how so? Fall to pieces was vr's best song , and is really one of the only songs apart from 1 mabye 2 others that anyone really remembers

and thats a fuckin joke...

slashs solo suited the song, and thats not a compliment



Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LunsJail on May 15, 2008, 09:33:12 AM
Back on subject.....Baz only said that Axl asked if he was joining VR.  We are really jumping to conclusions to assume that he wouldn't want that.  Baz said he would decline out of loyalty to Axl but we really don't know what Axl's thoughts on the matter would be.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Luigi on May 15, 2008, 09:45:47 AM
I think Baz should of asked Axl the same question  :o


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LeftToDecay on May 15, 2008, 09:57:51 AM
Humm, seems like Bach used some 300 words or so to say
"DUDES MY ALBUM HAS SOLD  5000 UNITS SO FAR CAN YOU PLEASE BUY IT IT HAS AXL. PLEASE??"

He has managed to reach some sort of impossible breaking point in Space/Time Continuum where amount of people who know Axl Rose appears on Bach's solo album is larger than amount of people knowing Bach has a solo album out.

In all honesty I still can't understand how it sold that poorly.

 


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jay Tea on May 15, 2008, 10:50:47 AM
For me to join a band and then sing all of his songs would be kinda weird.

why would he be singing all of axl's song in VR?

Yes, VR is well known for their cover of Madagascar.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jay Tea on May 15, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Humm, seems like Bach used some 300 words or so to say
"DUDES MY ALBUM HAS SOLD  5000 UNITS SO FAR CAN YOU PLEASE BUY IT IT HAS AXL. PLEASE??"

He has managed to reach some sort of impossible breaking point in Space/Time Continuum where amount of people who know Axl Rose appears on Bach's solo album is larger than amount of people knowing Bach has a solo album out.

In all honesty I still can't understand how it sold that poorly.

 


Did you buy it?


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LeftToDecay on May 15, 2008, 10:53:19 AM
Humm, seems like Bach used some 300 words or so to say
"DUDES MY ALBUM HAS SOLD  5000 UNITS SO FAR CAN YOU PLEASE BUY IT IT HAS AXL. PLEASE??"

He has managed to reach some sort of impossible breaking point in Space/Time Continuum where amount of people who know Axl Rose appears on Bach's solo album is larger than amount of people knowing Bach has a solo album out.

In all honesty I still can't understand how it sold that poorly.

 


Did you buy it?

Nope.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Hudson on May 15, 2008, 11:02:56 AM
I think Baz joining VR would not be in his or VR's best interest at this point. However, do you think Baz could get Axl and Slash to speak after all these years and quash their beef? Not for the purposes of a reunion. This is not a reunion question. Just to reconcile and finally make peace with each other and clear the air.

Baz seems to be outspoken and says whatever he has on his mind. Baz is very careful with what he does these days not to upset Axl, probably because he does not want to ruin his relationship with Axl since they seem pretty tight these days. Even though he drops Axl's name every 5 seconds.

I also would have thought Baz would be pissed at Slash to the point of not speaking to Slash after Slash picked Scott for VR and there would be a rift between them. But apparently Baz will at least take his call and hear him out. That leads me to believe Slash and Baz are somewhat friendly or talk from time to time considering Slash has to have felt a little guilty of not picking Baz originally and then picking up the phone to offer him the job now.

Slash has to know of Baz's relationship with Axl these days. Could Slash be trying to get Baz to help him reconcile with Axl? Axl is friendly with Izzy, he performed with Gilby, he has bumped into Matt and they spoke briefly and said their peace. Slash and Duff are really the only guys that he has yet to speak too (that we know of). Ultimately, I think it is up to Axl to be willing to speak to Slash. I think we know Slash has tried in the past but Axl would not even entertain the idea of speaking to Slash.

Baz has Axl's ear now and is speaking to both lately. I am just wondering what people think about this possibility. If you were Baz would try as a mutual friend to mend this relationship between two former friends and bandmates? I can't help to think this feud has to come to an end sometime and perhaps Baz could be part of the process.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ppbebe on May 15, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
Back on subject.....Baz only said that Axl asked if he was joining VR.  We are really jumping to conclusions to assume that he wouldn't want that.  Baz said he would decline out of loyalty to Axl but we really don't know what Axl's thoughts on the matter would be.

maybe the text was more like
'ru joinin vr lol' 'rofl'
sounds like a good excuse for not joining the band.
it must be awkward for any singer maybe unless their old band was bigger than theirs.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: chriskon72 on May 15, 2008, 11:53:40 AM
I didn't read anything, anywhere stating that Slash spoke to Baz. Are you joining VR? "not that I know of" What the Fuck?


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LunsJail on May 15, 2008, 11:59:10 AM
Back on subject.....Baz only said that Axl asked if he was joining VR.  We are really jumping to conclusions to assume that he wouldn't want that.  Baz said he would decline out of loyalty to Axl but we really don't know what Axl's thoughts on the matter would be.

maybe the text was more like
'ru joinin vr lol' 'rofl'
sounds like a good excuse for not joining the band.
it must be awkward for any singer maybe unless their old band was bigger than theirs.

 :hihi: I would hope Axl doesn't use "LOL" and "ROFL" in his text messages.  My illusions are shattered.... :hihi:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ppbebe on May 15, 2008, 12:27:41 PM
@ chriskon read the opening post
I think it?s funny that when Scott Weiland left Velvet Revolver, the last thing he said was, ?I think Sebastian Bach would be a good choice for you guys.? ...
...Axl texted me right away and asked if I was joining Velvet Revolver,

and this thread  (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=76b57a0e6f02f853212fda309c95f5b0&topic=51711.msg1069579#msg1069579)
Quote from: seb
During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash  recently," Sebastian revealed.


:hihi: I would hope Axl doesn't use "LOL" and "ROFL" in his text messages.  My illusions are shattered.... :hihi:

I hear ya LunsJail :hihi:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Farid Bak on May 15, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
true but nice jump in this one
Quote
And you got your old friend Axl Rose to sing on Angel Down?

Yeah, it?s an incredible thing. The world has been waiting for Chinese Democracy for a good 15 years and if you want to get a taste of what Axl actually sounds like as of last year, then get Angel Down because he?s on three songs. He sounds incredible! I just can?t believe that in the history of rock he would choose to collaborate on my album.

?Axl texted me right away and asked if I was joining Velvet Revolver, and I said, ?No, not that I know of.??
From singin in angel down to VR?


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Hudson on May 15, 2008, 12:33:05 PM
SEBASTIAN BACH Says Joining VELVET REVOLVER Would Be 'Really Awkward' - May 7, 2008

Former SKID ROW frontman Sebastian Bach was interviewed yesterday (Tuesday, May 6) on "The Buckethead Show" on Tampa's 98 Rock radio station.

The entire nine-minute chat is now available for streaming and download at this location.

During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash [VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] recently," Sebastian revealed. "I think it'd be really awkward for me to join that band. Number one, my new record, 'Angel Down', I like it more than VELVET REVOLVER records. That's just being totally honest. I love GUNS N' ROSES material, but I've got my own old songs ? SKID ROW ? so for me, it would all depend on music. I wouldn't just join the band just to join the band. If we came up with some incredible new songs, then maybe I'd think about it, but honestly, I'm very close friends with Axl [Rose, GUNS N' ROSES singer], and he sings three songs on my new record. I think Dr. Pepper owes me a case of free soda. [Laughs] [Referring to the Dr. Pepper soft drink company's announcement that it will offer a free can of its signature soda to 'everyone in America' if GN'R releases its long-delayed new album, 'Chinese Democracy', in 2008 ? Ed.] Axl's been so nice to me ? he's helped me out my whole career. In SKID ROW he helped us out, and in my solo band he brought me around the world, and then sang three songs on my new CD, which is pretty mind-blowing. I don't know? It's a cut-throat business, but Axl's been so nice to me, I don't think I would feel comfortable just joining VELVET REVOLVER and singing his songs every night. So I don't think that's gonna happen."


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ppbebe on May 15, 2008, 02:28:48 PM
true but nice jump in this one
Quote
And you got your old friend Axl Rose to sing on Angel Down?

Yeah, it?s an incredible thing. The world has been waiting for Chinese Democracy for a good 15 years and if you want to get a taste of what Axl actually sounds like as of last year, then get Angel Down because he?s on three songs. He sounds incredible! I just can?t believe that in the history of rock he would choose to collaborate on my album.

?Axl texted me right away and asked if I was joining Velvet Revolver, and I said, ?No, not that I know of.??
From singin in angel down to VR?

I guess it's the site that made the jump and not seb. Meant to subhead the latter half of the interview.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Farid Bak on May 15, 2008, 02:47:37 PM
true but nice jump in this one
Quote
And you got your old friend Axl Rose to sing on Angel Down?

Yeah, it?s an incredible thing. The world has been waiting for Chinese Democracy for a good 15 years and if you want to get a taste of what Axl actually sounds like as of last year, then get Angel Down because he?s on three songs. He sounds incredible! I just can?t believe that in the history of rock he would choose to collaborate on my album.

?Axl texted me right away and asked if I was joining Velvet Revolver, and I said, ?No, not that I know of.??
From singin in angel down to VR?
very well could be other wise it didnt make much sense
I guess it's the site that made the jump and not seb. Meant to subhead the latter half of the interview.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Fortus on May 15, 2008, 03:27:07 PM
I'm happy ;D Bach did the right thing: to Not join VR


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: McDuff on May 16, 2008, 12:47:52 AM

Is this the VR section, I must have clicked the wrong button?  ???

Exactly what I was thinking  :smoking:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ppbebe on May 16, 2008, 12:38:13 PM
the topic title should of been baz "Axl said to me "Dude!'" :hihi:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Lord Kayoss on May 16, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
"Axl's been so nice to me ? he's helped me out my whole career. In SKID ROW he helped us out, and in my solo band he brought me around the world, and then sang three songs on my new CD, which is pretty mind-blowing. I don't know? It's a cut-throat business, but Axl's been so nice to me"


Not a Baz fan by any means but I think the guy gets a lot of unnecessary flak on the boards for being an "Axl mark".  To me, the guy is just genuinely expressing his gratitude toward a man who has been very generous to him over the years.  Nothing wrong with that.

If Baz wants to go out and spread the word of Axl's greatness and support Chinese Democracy at every opportunity, I say go for it.  He's very active in the media (press interviews, radio, etc).  He can certainly contribute to the buzz and generate added interest.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: faldor on May 16, 2008, 02:23:23 PM
Well said Lord Kayoss.  I don't get why people get so upset at Baz for bringing up Axl's name.  It's not hurting anyone.  Just because people on this board have heard Baz say the same things over and over, that doesn't mean the rest of the world has.  If you go out and talk to 10 random people, I doubt any of them have any idea that Axl is on "Angel Down", or even what "Angel Down" is.  It's not like he's been interviewed by Larry King for the whole world to see.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 21, 2008, 10:07:16 AM
From an interview with Sebastian that airs today...

Jess: You're pretty much best friends with Axl Rose, aren't you?

Sebastian: Ummm, I'd say yeah, we're very good friends, and we text each other all the time - silly nonsense...

Jess: Does Axl ever say "LOL" in his texts?

Sebastian: (laughs) No.

Jess: Good man. I would have been quite concerned about that. So obviously you've heard all of Chinese Democracy, I'm assuming?

Sebastian: Yeah!

Jess: How is it? Is it good?

Sebastian: Epic! It's epic!

Jess: It'd want to be, by this point!

Sebastian: Yeah, it's very epic.

Jess: Does he mention in his texts when he's planning on releasing it?

Sebastian: Well I actually sing back up on the record on a song called 'Sorry', and sorry - but I don't know when it's coming out.

http://www.defamer.com.au/2008/05/talking_to_sebastian_bach.html


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gilmour on May 22, 2008, 04:25:21 AM
Baz is a liar!!!

VR didn't call him!!

Read this please.

" Gilmour Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:50 am   
 
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
 
Posts: 2
  Hi Duff!!

I read an interwiew where Sebastian Bach said that you ( the band ) had called him to join VR. Is that true???
 
 
Duff Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:56 pm   
 
Band Member
 
Joined: 08 Apr 2008
 
Posts: 77
  Uh, ....no "
 

http://duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=400

End of story!



Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Genesis on May 22, 2008, 04:32:20 AM
Baz is a lier!!!

Vr didn't call him!!

Read this please.


http://duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=400

Baz never said he was called after the breakup, did he?.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Atillla on May 22, 2008, 05:10:55 AM
Baz is a liar!!!

VR didn't call him!!

Duff said "my pinky stinks"

End of story!



Calm down bubba, don't get excited, no one here was about the VR thing  :peace:

And Duff never lies, never has, never will  : ok:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Farid Bak on May 22, 2008, 05:43:50 AM


and this thread  (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=76b57a0e6f02f853212fda309c95f5b0&topic=51711.msg1069579#msg1069579)
Quote from: seb
During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash  recently," Sebastian revealed.



Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: ppbebe on May 22, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
 :yes: He never said he talked to duff or the band.


Sebastian: Ummm, I'd say yeah, we're very good friends, and we text each other all the time - silly nonsense...

Jess: Does Axl ever say "LOL" in his texts?

Sebastian: (laughs) No.

Jess: Good man. I would have been quite concerned about that.

LunsJail  you were heard! :o


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: LunsJail on May 22, 2008, 03:35:45 PM



Sebastian: Ummm, I'd say yeah, we're very good friends, and we text each other all the time - silly nonsense...

Jess: Does Axl ever say "LOL" in his texts?

Sebastian: (laughs) No.

Jess: Good man. I would have been quite concerned about that.

LunsJail  you were heard! :o

 :hihi: I know...that put my mind at ease a bit.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gilmour on May 23, 2008, 12:28:23 AM
Baz is a lier!!!

Vr didn't call him!!

Read this please.


http://duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=400

Baz never said he was called after the breakup, did he?.

Yes, shure!!!


I?m in the middle of all these huge rock icons who are calling me at the same time, and I?m sitting there thinking, ?How does this f**King happen to me??

 : ok:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 23, 2008, 02:31:03 AM
Baz is a lier!!!

Vr didn't call him!!

Read this please.


http://duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=400

Baz never said he was called after the breakup, did he?.

Yes, shure!!!


I?m in the middle of all these huge rock icons who are calling me at the same time, and I?m sitting there thinking, ?How does this f**King happen to me??

 : ok:

 ::)

During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash [VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] recently," Sebastian revealed. "I think it'd be really awkward for me to join that band.

http://buckethead.98rock.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=&article=3649852


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: HBK on May 23, 2008, 03:03:38 AM
Baz is a lier!!!

Vr didn't call him!!

Read this please.


http://duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=400

Baz never said he was called after the breakup, did he?.

Yes, shure!!!


I?m in the middle of all these huge rock icons who are calling me at the same time, and I?m sitting there thinking, ?How does this f**King happen to me??

 : ok:

 ::)

During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash [VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] recently," Sebastian revealed. "I think it'd be really awkward for me to join that band.

http://buckethead.98rock.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=&article=3649852


FM Kiss Ass...

 :rofl:

HBK *


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 23, 2008, 08:47:47 AM
Baz is a lier!!!

Vr didn't call him!!

Read this please.


http://duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=400

Baz never said he was called after the breakup, did he?.

Yes, shure!!!


I?m in the middle of all these huge rock icons who are calling me at the same time, and I?m sitting there thinking, ?How does this f**King happen to me??

 : ok:

 ::)

During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash [VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] recently," Sebastian revealed. "I think it'd be really awkward for me to join that band.

http://buckethead.98rock.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=&article=3649852


FM Kiss Ass...

 :rofl:

HBK *

HBK :P

He can get his facts straight.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Farid Bak on May 23, 2008, 11:30:04 AM
so he did lie lol


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gilmour on May 24, 2008, 08:04:51 PM
Baz is a lier!!!

Vr didn't call him!!

Read this please.


http://duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=400

Baz never said he was called after the breakup, did he?.

Yes, shure!!!


I?m in the middle of all these huge rock icons who are calling me at the same time, and I?m sitting there thinking, ?How does this f**King happen to me??

 : ok:

 ::)

During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash [VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] recently," Sebastian revealed. "I think it'd be really awkward for me to join that band.

http://buckethead.98rock.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=&article=3649852

Yes, you're right, but Duff said that that wasn't happened!  :rant:  ;D

I prefer to believe in Duff :smoking:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 24, 2008, 08:44:29 PM
Sebastian said it wasn't happening also. ;)


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gilmour on May 24, 2008, 08:46:39 PM
Sebastian said it wasn't happening also. ;)

Shure!! Because they never called him!!! :peace:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 24, 2008, 09:11:43 PM
He says that he "spoke to Slash recently" never says what about.

Does Duff know about every conversation Slash has.  :D


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gilmour on May 24, 2008, 11:21:08 PM
He says that he "spoke to Slash recently" never says what about.

Does Duff know about every conversation Slash has.  :D


Hey, hey, come on!! Baz said that Slash called him, to join the band, why he would say " join VR woud be.... "? And I asked to Duff about if the band had called Sebastian to join them and he said no. And that's it.

Cheers!! :beer:


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 24, 2008, 11:31:01 PM
Where does Sebastian say Slash called him to join the band?  Here is a transcript of what was said in the radio interview.  Then listen to it yourself.

During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash [VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] recently," Sebastian revealed. "I think it'd be really awkward for me to join that band. Number one, my new record, 'Angel Down', I like it more than VELVET REVOLVER records. That's just being totally honest. I love GUNS N' ROSES material, but I've got my own old songs ? SKID ROW ? so for me, it would all depend on music. I wouldn't just join the band just to join the band. If we came up with some incredible new songs, then maybe I'd think about it, but honestly, I'm very close friends with Axl [Rose, GUNS N' ROSES singer], and he sings three songs on my new record. I think Dr. Pepper owes me a case of free soda. [Laughs] [Referring to the Dr. Pepper soft drink company's announcement that it will offer a free can of its signature soda to 'everyone in America' if GN'R releases its long-delayed new album, 'Chinese Democracy', in 2008 ? Ed.] Axl's been so nice to me ? he's helped me out my whole career. In SKID ROW he helped us out, and in my solo band he brought me around the world, and then sang three songs on my new CD, which is pretty mind-blowing. I don't know? It's a cut-throat business, but Axl's been so nice to me, I don't think I would feel comfortable just joining VELVET REVOLVER and singing his songs every night. So I don't think that's gonna happen."


http://buckethead.98rock.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=&article=3649852


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jim Bob on May 24, 2008, 11:34:33 PM
i stil don't understand why a topic about Axl asking Baz if he joined VR is 7 pages long in the GnR section.  It has nothing to do with GnR.   The point was made, Axl was curious, Baz isn't joining the band, the end.


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gilmour on May 25, 2008, 12:17:46 AM
Where does Sebastian say Slash called him to join the band?  Here is a transcript of what was said in the radio interview.  Then listen to it yourself.

During the interview, Bach was asked if there is any truth to the rumors that he is being considered for the lead-singer position in VELVET REVOLVER following that group's recent split with Scott Weiland.

"I've talked to Slash [VELVET REVOLVER/ex-GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] recently," Sebastian revealed. "I think it'd be really awkward for me to join that band. Number one, my new record, 'Angel Down', I like it more than VELVET REVOLVER records. That's just being totally honest. I love GUNS N' ROSES material, but I've got my own old songs ? SKID ROW ? so for me, it would all depend on music. I wouldn't just join the band just to join the band. If we came up with some incredible new songs, then maybe I'd think about it, but honestly, I'm very close friends with Axl [Rose, GUNS N' ROSES singer], and he sings three songs on my new record. I think Dr. Pepper owes me a case of free soda. [Laughs] [Referring to the Dr. Pepper soft drink company's announcement that it will offer a free can of its signature soda to 'everyone in America' if GN'R releases its long-delayed new album, 'Chinese Democracy', in 2008 ? Ed.] Axl's been so nice to me ? he's helped me out my whole career. In SKID ROW he helped us out, and in my solo band he brought me around the world, and then sang three songs on my new CD, which is pretty mind-blowing. I don't know? It's a cut-throat business, but Axl's been so nice to me, I don't think I would feel comfortable just joining VELVET REVOLVER and singing his songs every night. So I don't think that's gonna happen."


http://buckethead.98rock.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=&article=3649852


That's ok, nevermind...

Quote
i stil don't understand why a topic about Axl asking Baz if he joined VR is 7 pages long in the GnR section.  It has nothing to do with GnR.   The point was made, Axl was curious, Baz isn't joining the band, the end.

Maybe because VR is the Slash's band and Slash is the historic GNR guitarrist and the most great GNR icon after Axl Rose?

Or maybe because in the interview Baz said all that He loves Axl? ::)



Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: Jim Bob on May 25, 2008, 04:06:02 AM
Maybe because VR is the Slash's band and Slash is the historic GNR guitarrist and the most great GNR icon after Axl Rose?

Or maybe because in the interview Baz said all that He loves Axl? ::)

I realize you are new to our fine community.. (or are you?)

but we talk about the former members right here, and VR the Slash's band even has its very own section:
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=12.0


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: gilmour on May 25, 2008, 05:26:39 AM
Maybe because VR is the Slash's band and Slash is the historic GNR guitarrist and the most great GNR icon after Axl Rose?

Or maybe because in the interview Baz said all that He loves Axl? ::)

I realize you are new to our fine community.. (or are you?)

but we talk about the former members right here, and VR the Slash's band even has its very own section:
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=12.0

I agree, that's why I said "Or maybe because in the interview Baz said all that He loves Axl?". Sebastian talked about his friendship with Axl in the interview, so maybe it's not a bad idea put it in this section. :)


Title: Re: baz "axl texted me, are you joining VR?"
Post by: GNR4L on May 25, 2008, 04:08:13 PM
Man I wish Axl would text me  :beer: anyways Baz is smart Axl is the strong one why ruin his friendship with Axl then join a bunch of liars.