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Title: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: izzbo on April 02, 2008, 10:38:33 AM Taken from http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/04/velvet-revolver.html (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/04/velvet-revolver.html)
After reading the comment by Duff, Matt, Dave and the illustrious "GUITAR HERO," Saul Hudson, a.k.a Slash, I find it humorous that the so called four "founding members" of Velvet Revolver, better known to themselves as "the Project" before I officially named the band, would decide to move on without me after I had already claimed the group dead in the water on March 20 in Glasgow. In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. The truth of the matter is that the band had not gotten along on multiple levels for some time. On a musical level, there were moments of joy, inspiration, fun... at times, but let's not forget the multiple trips to rehab every member of the band had taken (with the exception of one member, no need to mention his name). Personally speaking, I choose to look forward to the future and performing with a group of friends I have known my entire life, people who have always had my back. This also speaks to my commitment to my music and my fellow band mates in STP and to the fans who I feel would much rather watch a group of musicians who enjoy being together as opposed to a handful of discontents who at one time used to call themselves a gang. p.s. don't be fooled by veiled trickery p.p.s good hunting lads, I think Sebastian Bach would be a fantastic choice. -= iZzbO =- Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: russtcb on April 02, 2008, 10:40:09 AM There's not alot to disagree with there. And that's coming from a person who is in no way shape or form a Weiland fan.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: axlrosegnr on April 02, 2008, 10:46:45 AM what a prick.....haha,, yes, BAck would be a fantastic choice...he'd blow your vocals out of the water any day.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: izzbo on April 02, 2008, 10:46:55 AM There's not alot to disagree with there. And that's coming from a person who is in no way shape or form a Weiland fan. I agree with you 100%. If I were Scott, I would feel the same way although the jabs he takes in the p.p.s. part are a bit harsh. -= IzzBo =- Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Ines_rocks! on April 02, 2008, 10:47:43 AM 2nd p.s... Scott on its best. lol
Such a shame he doesn?t even address the fans who were with him till this day. He just moved on, but you can?t forget the people that support you. I also agree that Slash?s excuse of "erratic behaviour" of Scott, when he never failed a show in his life is really shameless... Well... good luck with STP Scott... I?m sure you?ll enjoy yourself much more and maybe even got bigger audiences thus more money! hehe Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: MeanBone on April 02, 2008, 10:51:03 AM that sebastian reference made me laugh... ahah besides to the best of our knowledge baz doesn't even care for VR anymore.
VR are goin to have a hard time finding a proper replacement and still be relevant in the music Scene... Good thing STP are goin on a good tour this summer :) Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: madagas on April 02, 2008, 10:51:18 AM too funny.....the simple fact of the matter is I don't like Weiland in any capacity and in all honesty, outside of a few fleeting moments, I don't like anything Slash has done outside of Gnr. No big loss for me. :no:
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Limulus on April 02, 2008, 10:51:25 AM didnt take long for a reply, Scottie, huh?
and your STP members "always had your back" ?? :hihi: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Grouse on April 02, 2008, 10:51:49 AM Pretty much agree with the guy, the statement released by slash just seem to be written out of spite where he really should've taken the high road.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: pilferk on April 02, 2008, 10:51:52 AM Yup, there's that "professionalism" he's gone on about lately.
What a putz..... The fact of the matter is, while it looks like there is more than enough blame to go around, Scott needs to shoulder some of the responsibility for this. It also makes me wonder just how long until that "group of friends [he has] known [his] entire life, people who have always had [his] back" once again get tired of his prima donna, drug addled bullshit and want out AGAIN. Both "groups" (Weiland and the Ex-Gunners) seem to have a reoccuring theme following them through their professional lives. Must be karma, or something.... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Atillla on April 02, 2008, 10:58:25 AM I also am not a supporter of Scott... but he is right in what he said there.
First he already didn't want to be part of it, he left. So why the rest pretends he was fired or something. Second, in that statement by VR, especially Guitar Hero media whore Slash, they were stabbing Scott in the back. There were problems on many levels, by everyone, yet they blamed just Scott. No mention of the others going to rehab and canceling shows because of that.. Slash will probably also blame Scott for his own mediocre songwriting in VR, roflcopter. Third, don't believe the bull coming now from VR, they are in it for teh moneh... the hunting part suggests that too :peace: Well done Scott, finally you showed you are not like those other posers, just for once, looking forward to hearing STP, which is your place : ok: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: FunkyMonkey on April 02, 2008, 11:00:49 AM Same statement...just a little background:
Surprisingly, an entire night passed without Weiland responding ? but really, it wasn't a question of if he would issue his own retort, but when. In an e-mail sent exclusively to MTV News Wednesday morning, Weiland fired back at his erstwhile bandmates, and pulled no punches in his attack of the Revolver. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1584615/20080402/velvet_revolver.jhtml Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: DeN on April 02, 2008, 11:05:42 AM at least he's honnest about the whole situation.
soon friend with another singer who shared the same difficulties with the guys and now the same management ? a duet ? :hihi: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: GeorgeSteele on April 02, 2008, 11:06:04 AM The gratuitous cheap shot at Baz was unnecessary and totally uncalled for.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: pilferk on April 02, 2008, 11:09:25 AM I also am not a supporter of Scott... but he is right in what he said there. First he already didn't want to be part of it, he left. So why the rest pretends he was fired or something. Scott seemed to have taken it upon himself to "disband" VR.....their "firing" him isn't, IMHO, the "you can't quit because you're fired" route. It's the "you can't disband the BAND...we're still VR whether you're here or not" route. THAT'S why they did it. And in reading the initial PR, it doesn't say that they FIRED him. It says they're parting ways....not who initiated the parting. Slash's explanation could be seen just as much as reasoning for Scott LEAVING as it could be an explanation for them "firing" him. Quote Second, in that statement by VR, especially Guitar Hero media whore Slash, they were stabbing Scott in the back. There were problems on many levels, by everyone, yet they blamed just Scott. No mention of the others going to rehab and canceling shows because of that.. Slash will probably also blame Scott for his own mediocre songwriting in VR, roflcopter. I don't disagree. But lets face it....Scott has done his share of backstabbing, back biting, and end arounding here, too. I said it in a previous post: There's more than enough blame to go around....and Scott is playing the "blame game" just as much as anyone else is, here, right? Quote Third, don't believe the bull coming now from VR, they are in it for teh moneh... the hunting part suggests that too :peace: Well done Scott, finally you showed you are not like those other posers, just for once, looking forward to hearing STP, which is your place : ok: Whatever their motivation is...money, artistic inspiration, whatever......I don't see any reason they shouldn't do what's best for their band...which is to distance themselves from Wieland. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: pilferk on April 02, 2008, 11:11:01 AM The gratuitous cheap shot at Baz was unnecessary and totally uncalled for. I agree, 100%. There's no reason to involve Baz in the discussion, just like there's no reason to involve any of the other former candidates for the lead singer position. To single out Baz, who's had a pretty damn successful career, is just piss poor, IMHO. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Ines_rocks! on April 02, 2008, 11:16:44 AM On Vh1:
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1584615/20080402/velvet_revolver.jhtml Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: kobys on April 02, 2008, 11:17:30 AM didnt take long for a reply, Scottie, huh? and your STP members "always had your back" ?? :hihi: It took a little longer for him to reply than I expected knowing his hot temper. From what I've heard he had a lot of times when he didn't get along with STP but he's talking about them like they were his best friends in the world. What I think is that Scott has a lot of personality probs because of his bi-polar disorder. I'm not putting him down for this as it is a really serious ligitimate problem. But by Scott's own admission he does not take his meds and he really should. I think that poor Scott will have problems getting along with anyone for very long not just his VR bandmates. Now about Slash, I think he just should have stayed mum a while longer, at least until the dust settles. I really hope that there is some chance in hell that everyone can chill out and shut the hell up for a while and then get together and talk rationally and keep Scott in VR but I know that I'm hoping for too much there. As for Sebastian Bach, he seems pretty tempermental in his own way so he might not be the way to go either. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: GeraldFord on April 02, 2008, 11:20:44 AM Taken from http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/04/velvet-revolver.html (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/04/velvet-revolver.html) After reading the comment by Duff, Matt, Dave and the illustrious "GUITAR HERO," Saul Hudson, a.k.a Slash, I find it humorous that the so called four "founding members" of Velvet Revolver, better known to themselves as "the Project" before I officially named the band, would decide to move on without me after I had already claimed the group dead in the water on March 20 in Glasgow. In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. The truth of the matter is that the band had not gotten along on multiple levels for some time. On a musical level, there were moments of joy, inspiration, fun... at times, but let's not forget the multiple trips to rehab every member of the band had taken (with the exception of one member, no need to mention his name). Personally speaking, I choose to look forward to the future and performing with a group of friends I have known my entire life, people who have always had my back. This also speaks to my commitment to my music and my fellow band mates in STP and to the fans who I feel would much rather watch a group of musicians who enjoy being together as opposed to a handful of discontents who at one time used to call themselves a gang. p.s. don't be fooled by veiled trickery p.p.s good hunting lads, I think Sebastian Bach would be a fantastic choice. -= iZzbO =- We weren't there, only these four know what what down... Good luck to VR and Weiland... Quote and the illustrious "GUITAR HERO," Saul Hudson, a.k.a Slash, Didn't Weiland once say that Slash was the best lead guitar player he had ever heard? Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Fortus on April 02, 2008, 11:36:10 AM Sebatian bach: " Velvet who?" :peace:
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: GeraldFord on April 02, 2008, 11:38:54 AM It should be noted that in 2008 Weiland is no more relevant than Sebastian Bach.
And at least no one will ever accuse Bach of being a fraud. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: JDA on April 02, 2008, 11:48:42 AM I'm sure Scott is joking about Baz but I hope VR don't think of considering him. His music sucks and he is still stuck in 1989.
Not to say his music was bad with Skid Row but he hasn't done shit since then. Bring in Chris Cornell or someone more talented and exciting. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 11:52:21 AM Bring in Chris Cornell or someone more talented and exciting. Remember Audioslave? I hope he learned his lesson and stays away. /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: JuicySwoos on April 02, 2008, 11:53:03 AM I bet Rick Astley is available....give em a call slash!
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ACE_is_BACK on April 02, 2008, 11:54:55 AM I also am not a supporter of Scott... but he is right in what he said there. First he already didn't want to be part of it, he left. So why the rest pretends he was fired or something. Second, in that statement by VR, especially Guitar Hero media whore Slash, they were stabbing Scott in the back. There were problems on many levels, by everyone, yet they blamed just Scott. No mention of the others going to rehab and canceling shows because of that.. Slash will probably also blame Scott for his own mediocre songwriting in VR, roflcopter. Third, don't believe the bull coming now from VR, they are in it for teh moneh... the hunting part suggests that too :peace: Well done Scott, finally you showed you are not like those other posers, just for once, looking forward to hearing STP, which is your place : ok: no one knows what really happened behind the scenes. It's very possible that afte he went to rehab and cancelled the aussie tour, etc that they either gave him an ultimatum or basically said, we're done with you after this tour, so he took the opportunity live to say "this is our last tour" and made it seem like it was his choice. I'm not saying that that's what happened, but it's very possible. Since late last year, they have had nothing but problems with him, so yah I wouldn't be surprised. Even with that being said, his statement is still pretty truthful though. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ACE_is_BACK on April 02, 2008, 11:55:28 AM It should be noted that in 2008 Weiland is no more relevant than Sebastian Bach. And at least no one will ever accuse Bach of being a fraud. skid row might haha Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Genesis on April 02, 2008, 11:56:44 AM Not a single insult in that entire statement. Weiland must have been drunk. :hihi:
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: JDA on April 02, 2008, 11:56:57 AM Bring in Chris Cornell or someone more talented and exciting. Remember Audioslave? I hope he learned his lesson and stays away. /jarmo Audioslave put out 3 very successful albums. Chris was also in one of the best bands in the 90's and has done very well on his own. Don't start picking a fight Jarmo. I quit picking when you started bitching last night. Just making a point about a very successful musician who has better pipes than almost any singer out there. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Naupis on April 02, 2008, 11:59:00 AM I think the shot at Baz was his way of referencing what the band would have been without him. He was the difference between them being seen as the irrelevant washed up 80's relic they would have been labeled as opposed to a Weiland led a grammy winning outfit that went triple platinum that had 2 #1 rock singles. Libertad bombed, but Contraband is looking like an increasingly bigger success as time passes for how well it did in a deteriorating marketplace. They would have been lucky to move a 100,000 copies with Baz at the helm. No one would have even known they existed outside of a few message boards. I think Scott is reminding them of how good they had it with him with a jab like that.
Quote It should be noted that in 2008 Weiland is no more relevant than Sebastian Bach. That is kind of a tough claim to make considering that things are looking bright for the impending STP reunion. Feelings about Scott aside there is considerably more interest in that than whatever Sebastian happens to be doing at this given time. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: JDA on April 02, 2008, 12:00:53 PM I think the shot at Baz was his way of referencing what the band would have been without him. He was the difference between them being seen as the irrelevant washed up 80's relic they would have been labeled as opposed to a Weiland led a grammy winning outfit that went triple platinum that had 2 #1 rock singles. Libertad bombed, but Contraband is looking like an increasingly bigger success as time passes for how well it did in a deteriorating marketplace. They would have been lucky to move a 100,000 copies with Baz at the helm. No one would have even known they existed outside of a few message boards. I think Scott is reminding them of how good they had it with him with a jab like that. Quote It should be noted that in 2008 Weiland is no more relevant than Sebastian Bach. That is kind of a tough claim to make considering that things are looking bright for the impending STP reunion. Feelings about Scott aside there is considerably more interest in that than whatever Sebastian happens to be doing at this given time. Agreed Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 12:03:15 PM Audioslave put out 3 very successful albums. Chris was also in one of the best bands in the 90's and has done very well on his own. He's made comments about how he's happy to be a solo artist. Audioslave didn't end too well. Almost like VR.... Don't start picking a fight Jarmo. I'm not. Just looks like you can't handle somebody disagreeing with you so you have to make it personal. Time after time again. /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: GeraldFord on April 02, 2008, 12:06:21 PM Bring in Chris Cornell or someone more talented and exciting. Remember Audioslave? I hope he learned his lesson and stays away. /jarmo Keep in mind how much CC's last album sucked... Still, I think he'd be a good fit for VR. Imagine Slash doing "birth ritual." Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: JDA on April 02, 2008, 12:06:28 PM Audioslave put out 3 very successful albums. Chris was also in one of the best bands in the 90's and has done very well on his own. He's made comments about how he's happy to be a solo artist. Audioslave didn't end too well. Almost like VR.... Don't start picking a fight Jarmo. I'm not. Just looks like you can't handle somebody disagreeing with you so you have to make it personal. Time after time again. /jarmo Look in the mirror buddy. I don't mind people disagreeing with me. It just seems you always come in this section with Guns Blazing. I'm done have to work. Look forward to same exact conversation later. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 02, 2008, 12:12:08 PM Again, he could have taken high road, just like Slash could have. But they don't, and that is gae. And Baz had nothing to do with this. And Dave had nothing to do with this either. And for all the rehabs Matt and Slash may or may not have gone too, none of them ever missed a show, or fell over slurring some words, or made stupid political rants. Weiland at times was an amazing front man. Dynamite. Other times his voice was horrid and looked out of it. He had some good (slither) and some bad (big machine). Lets just be happy we did get two albums from this bunch and look towards the future. I don't like Scott, but I do appreciate what he did contribute. He wasn't my choice, but after 4 shows, I am thankfull for getting the chance to see this band. They were a fantastic live act. And I got to see my Guitar hero Slash and Duff, something I never thought I would see live.
Thanks Slash, Duff, Dave, Matt, and Scott for making it as long as you did and putting out a few decent tracks to rock out too. I am sorry ya'll couldn't gel on a more personal level. Smoking Guns Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on April 02, 2008, 12:14:31 PM Is it any coincidence problems started to arise when Scott fell off the wagon?
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Freya on April 02, 2008, 12:15:56 PM What a bitchfest. So entertaining. Weiland is an asshole though, the way he's trying to put down the boys as if he's way above them. I can't wait until the STP reunion blows up in his face.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: madagas on April 02, 2008, 12:16:21 PM "Weiland led a grammy winning outfit"
Nice comment Naupis.....you know you are quality when you win a grammy. ::) Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 12:19:44 PM Keep in mind how much CC's last album sucked... Still, I think he'd be a good fit for VR. Imagine Slash doing "birth ritual." Why do you think he would fit? He's famous, he might not mix too well with the other superstars in the band. And for all the rehabs Matt and Slash may or may not have gone too, none of them ever missed a show, Did you miss the part in his previous announcement where he said Matt was the reason for the canceled Australian tour last year? Look in the mirror buddy. I don't mind people disagreeing with me. It just seems you always come in this section with Guns Blazing. I'm done have to work. Look forward to same exact conversation later. Oh really! Please point out the part where I attacked you last night? I posted my opinion and you made it personal (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=51269.msg1058120#msg1058120). It's a simple fact and you should take some responsibility for it. It happens quite often. I say something that's on my mind and instead of replying to the things I say, it's all about Axl and how much I hate VR. Shows how much some of you are interested in actual discussions. I guess it takes away the focus.... /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Grouse on April 02, 2008, 12:31:21 PM Shows how much some of you are interested in actual discussions. I guess it takes away the focus.... /jarmo Now that's a really ironic statement coming from you, when 9 out of 10 posts you make in the vr section are just trying to elicit a certain response from vr fans. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Atillla on April 02, 2008, 12:33:49 PM jarmo, that's because when they know they are wrong and can't debunk, the character assasination tactic is pulled out :peace:
Instead of talking about the topic, they talk about you/me/whoever and the "hidden agenda" attached to our opinions, roflcopter : ok: *edit* See the post above mine as example :beer: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 02, 2008, 12:35:50 PM Keep in mind how much CC's last album sucked... Still, I think he'd be a good fit for VR. Imagine Slash doing "birth ritual." . And for all the rehabs Matt and Slash may or may not have gone too, none of them ever missed a show, Did you miss the part in his previous announcement where he said Matt was the reason for the canceled Australian tour last year? /jarmo Jarmo, I meant more about Slash and the shows Matt missed were rescheduled, but nixed again when Scott went to rehab. They, the other guys not Scott, are functional addicts. Scott isn't. That was my point. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Naupis on April 02, 2008, 12:39:41 PM Quote "Weiland led a grammy winning outfit" Nice comment Naupis.....you know you are quality when you win a grammy. Doesn't mean it is legendary quality if you have one, but it is hardly a terrible distinction to have. It is doubtful that without Scott they would have been in a similar position that people would even take them serious enough as a group to even be in the game in that respect. Winning an Oscar doesn't mean something was quality either as it is all a big popularity contest/political game, but as an artist it is rewarding to be recognized like that ultimately. To dismiss it as if everyone gets one and it is meaningless achievement is an interesting assumption as I have yet to see an artist turn one down. There have been plenty of acts who should have won one that didn't, but to dismiss the idea of the industry recognizing your achievements all the way across the board as irrelevant because of some omissions along the way is using an awful broad brush to paint that picture. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 12:49:45 PM Now that's a really ironic statement coming from you, when 9 out of 10 posts you make in the vr section are just trying to elicit a certain response from vr fans. That response would be the discussion. Instead I get attacked for a bunch of pointless shit that none of you have any clue about anyway. If you think I'm interested in talking about GN'R in this section, or Pearl Jam, then you need to get a fucking clue. I have actually seen some people who are able to discuss things in this section. : ok: Jarmo, I meant more about Slash and the shows Matt missed were rescheduled, but nixed again when Scott went to rehab. They, the other guys not Scott, are functional addicts. Scott isn't. That was my point. So basically all the blame should be on Weiland? /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Falcon on April 02, 2008, 01:04:29 PM Scott's retort was a little less volitile than I expected, hardly the high road by any means but
the high road ship seems to have sailed quite a while ago. The Bach comment was fucking hysterical, absolutley unnecessary but the definite knock out punch in the verbal back and forth. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: pilferk on April 02, 2008, 01:06:07 PM Has the VR section EVER seen this much "traffic"?
Wow...things are hopping around here. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 02, 2008, 01:15:26 PM Jarmo, I meant more about Slash and the shows Matt missed were rescheduled, but nixed again when Scott went to rehab. They, the other guys not Scott, are functional addicts. Scott isn't. That was my point. So basically all the blame should be on Weiland? /jarmo [/quote] 85% of the blame should go to Weiland. Dave is innocent here. Duff seems fairly innocent. Matt is 10% to blame and Slash is 5% to blame. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Ali on April 02, 2008, 01:18:19 PM While I can understand why Weiland took a shot at Slash because of what Slash said in the press release yesterday, I hope that Weiland realizes that despite his sarcasm, Slash is literally a guitar hero and a legend and he was lucky to share a stage with him. Why he didn't name Dave is beyond me as well. It's not a bad thing that he's remained sober this whole time.
Bringing Baz into the discussion was pointless and stupid. Sorry Weiland, but Baz has the kind of pipes most singers dream of having. Ali Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Genesis on April 02, 2008, 01:19:04 PM 85% of the blame should go to Weiland. Dave is innocent here. Duff seems fairly innocent. Matt is 10% to blame and Slash is 5% to blame. Wow, how'd you come up those numbers? If the stories I've read are anything to go by, it'd be more like: Weiland 33%, Matt 33% and Slash 33%. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Bandita on April 02, 2008, 01:21:41 PM It should be noted that in 2008 Weiland is no more relevant than Sebastian Bach. And at least no one will ever accuse Bach of being a fraud. I was going to say just this but it seems you have already done so. :yes: Scott is in for a rude awakening. STP was a long time ago. He acts like them reuniting will be the 2nd coming of Christ. This internet flamethrowing by the band mates is rather amusing though. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: pilferk on April 02, 2008, 01:23:36 PM 85% of the blame should go to Weiland. Dave is innocent here. Duff seems fairly innocent. Matt is 10% to blame and Slash is 5% to blame. Wow, how'd you come up those numbers? If the stories I've read are anything to go by, it'd be more like: Weiland 33%, Matt 33% and Slash 33%. That's only 99 percent. Can we blame the roadies for the other 1%? Just for fun? Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 01:25:46 PM Scott is in for a rude awakening. STP was a long time ago. He acts like them reuniting will be the 2nd coming of Christ. Wasn't it billed as "a reunion of epic proportions" or something similar on their own site? 85% of the blame should go to Weiland. Dave is innocent here. Duff seems fairly innocent. Matt is 10% to blame and Slash is 5% to blame. Wow, how'd you come up those numbers? If the stories I've read are anything to go by, it'd be more like: Weiland 33%, Matt 33% and Slash 33%. That's only 99 percent. Can we blame the roadies for the other 1%? Just for fun? I think Matt deserves more credit! :hihi: /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ACE_is_BACK on April 02, 2008, 01:27:11 PM 85% of the blame should go to Weiland. Dave is innocent here. Duff seems fairly innocent. Matt is 10% to blame and Slash is 5% to blame. Wow, how'd you come up those numbers? If the stories I've read are anything to go by, it'd be more like: Weiland 33%, Matt 33% and Slash 33%. That's only 99 percent. Can we blame the roadies for the other 1%? Just for fun? I heard izzy somehow gets the 1% but it does add up to 100 actually. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Bandita on April 02, 2008, 01:28:15 PM Scott is in for a rude awakening. STP was a long time ago. He acts like them reuniting will be the 2nd coming of Christ. Wasn't it billed as "a reunion of epic proportions" or something similar on their own site? /jarmo Sounds like Legend in his own Mind syndrome to me. Either way, they should just move on and stop insulting each other over the web. So lame, yet fun to read! I don't even care who is to blame but if they want to be taken seriously in the future then maybe this isn't the correct route to take? Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Falcon on April 02, 2008, 01:30:35 PM Bringing Baz into the discussion was pointless and stupid. Sorry Weiland, but Baz has the kind of pipes most singers dream of having. Ali Agreed on the "pointless" opinion not on the "stupd". I actually found it clever, if you're gonna go down that road go down it with a wry sense of humor. That comment cut to the quick and will be hard pressed to be topped... :yes: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: TomFriend on April 02, 2008, 01:33:33 PM How much of a prick you're allowed to be in rock is generally scalable by the size of your talent.
And then there's Scott Weiland. A collosal granny-fucker of a prick, with virtually no talent. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: pilferk on April 02, 2008, 01:33:56 PM Agreed on the "pointless" opinion not on the "stupd". I actually found it clever, if you're gonna go down that road go down it with a wry sense of humor. That comment cut to the quick and will be hard pressed to be topped... :yes: I don't know...I think: "Sticks and stones will break our bones but your bullshit will never hurt us" is about as clever...and would just about top it. It would be just as juvenile, that's for sure. And let's face it...those guys can point to the fact that Scott's not even the BEST front man they've worked with, really. Ultimately, they DID decide Scott was a better fit that Baz, so I'm not sure if I were Scott I'd slag on their judgement. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 02, 2008, 01:34:47 PM Taken from http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/04/velvet-revolver.html (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/04/velvet-revolver.html) After reading the comment by Duff, Matt, Dave and the illustrious "GUITAR HERO," Saul Hudson, a.k.a Slash, I find it humorous that the so called four "founding members" of Velvet Revolver, better known to themselves as "the Project" before I officially named the band, would decide to move on without me after I had already claimed the group dead in the water on March 20 in Glasgow. In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. The truth of the matter is that the band had not gotten along on multiple levels for some time. On a musical level, there were moments of joy, inspiration, fun... at times, but let's not forget the multiple trips to rehab every member of the band had taken (with the exception of one member, no need to mention his name). Personally speaking, I choose to look forward to the future and performing with a group of friends I have known my entire life, people who have always had my back. This also speaks to my commitment to my music and my fellow band mates in STP and to the fans who I feel would much rather watch a group of musicians who enjoy being together as opposed to a handful of discontents who at one time used to call themselves a gang. p.s. don't be fooled by veiled trickery p.p.s good hunting lads, I think Sebastian Bach would be a fantastic choice. -= iZzbO =- I'm no fan of Scott or STP, but from what he writes, I think he means it. Good luck to Scott and STP. ..and to the four remaining guys: No, please don't let Seb join VR. He really sucks!!! Sure Seb sounds cool on the radio, and Seb is so rock n'rock, but live, fuck no! :hihi: better known to themselves as "the Project" before I officially named the band, Hope Scott hasn't done an Axl by owning the rights to the name VR :hihi: Actually Slash and Duff came up with Revolver, Scott added Velvet. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 02, 2008, 01:35:51 PM Agreed on the "pointless" opinion not on the "stupd". I actually found it clever, if you're gonna go down that road go down it with a wry sense of humor. That comment cut to the quick and will be hard pressed to be topped... :yes: I don't know...I think: "Sticks and stones will break our bones but your bullshit will never hurt us" is about as clever...and would just about top it. It would be just as juvenile, that's for sure. And let's face it...those guys can point to the fact that Scott's not even the BEST front man they've worked with, really. Ultimately, they DID decide Scott was a better fit that Baz, so I'm not sure if I were Scott I'd slag on their judgement. Did Scott thank Duff and Slash for pretty much saving him and his marriage early on? Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: MikeD on April 02, 2008, 01:38:06 PM What about Sammy Hagar
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAI wonder how "successful" the STP tour will be. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: pilferk on April 02, 2008, 01:42:22 PM What about Sammy Hagar BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAI wonder how "successful" the STP tour will be. Honestly, it will largely depend on Weiland. If he gets his shit together, and manages to be competent and lucid on stage while belting out STP cornerstones....it'll probably do fine after some build up (like festivals, etc). If he implodes, regularly, or shows up all fucked up and unable to PERFORM (and I don't mean sing, I mean perform), it'll bomb. With Weiland, that sounds like a familiar song..... That's one of the "issues" I have to Scott's responses on this. It's true...he's only really cancelled one set of shows in his career. But he completely ignores the count of shows at which he showed up....so fucked up that his performance REALLY suffered and he didn't, remotely, give the fans their money's worth. That will be the biggest factor in how successful, ultimately, the STP reunion is. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: killingvector on April 02, 2008, 01:58:20 PM This situation is absolutely surreal. The tea leaves were there to read but this shit fell apart quickly. Weiland shows his true colors which is not surprisng. He truly lacks self control and will probably find more people leaving him behind in life than the other way around.
I hope Slash makes a great solo record; one which brings a possible collaboration of old Indiana friends. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: KD8LNW on April 02, 2008, 02:00:05 PM Kinda funny how he says the guys in STP have his back. I just dug out an issue of Guitar Magazine from 11/03 and what is on the cover from Scott , "These guys got my back". The sad thing is STP will implode aswell. As soon as Scott's shit gets old hat again with the Deleo boys. It is a damn shame , Scott is a helluva a front man like him or not.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: guns_n_motley on April 02, 2008, 02:04:09 PM the shot at Baz was unnecessary....seems to me like Scott is overestimating his relevance......IMO Stone temple pilots/Scott in 2008 are no more relavent than Skid Row and Sebastian bach are/were...
STP were a 2nd wave grunge band Skid row were a 2nd wage metal band both have a couple of staple songs that get played on the radio... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: SpiritDave on April 02, 2008, 02:06:39 PM Actually Slash and Duff came up with Revolver, Scott added Velvet. Yes ... and he's also forgetting that multiple times, Slash and Duff commented that they weren't called 'The Project' ... that was a media coined name. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 02, 2008, 02:15:52 PM How patient where the 4 members while waiting on Scott? VERY!!! And they gave in a lot to scott from the producers to studio, to track selection, to not playing GNR type music. yet, he acts like he is the one that tried to make it work. Say what you want about Slash and Matt, they put up with a lot more from Scott than most of us would have.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ppbebe on April 02, 2008, 02:21:59 PM whatever scott was their choice.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: chineseblues on April 02, 2008, 02:41:27 PM How patient where the 4 members while waiting on Scott? VERY!!! And they gave in a lot to scott from the producers to studio, to track selection, to not playing GNR type music. yet, he acts like he is the one that tried to make it work. Say what you want about Slash and Matt, they put up with a lot more from Scott than most of us would have. How about putting up with slash wanting to go back to his former band? ::) Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: guns_n_motley on April 02, 2008, 02:45:51 PM How patient where the 4 members while waiting on Scott? VERY!!! And they gave in a lot to scott from the producers to studio, to track selection, to not playing GNR type music. yet, he acts like he is the one that tried to make it work. Say what you want about Slash and Matt, they put up with a lot more from Scott than most of us would have. How about putting up with slash wanting to go back to his former band? ::) kind of a faulty argument when Weiland LEFT to go back to his former band... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Fingers on April 02, 2008, 02:47:57 PM Sorry, I loved Scott in VR, but these people that have your back now are the same ones (Dean DeLeo) who called you a junkie in the press (something VR did not do), and the same guitarist you had to be seperated with the last time you played together when you said you attempted to throw a punch at him-as Slash once said, "fucking lead singers"-good luck at your DWI trial
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 02:52:52 PM I'm not a fan of any of the two camps. Obviously many GN'R fans (or whatever they call themselves) take the "core"'s side in this.
But I think that the ones who put all the blame on Weiland are not looking at the big picture. The band had issues since day one but convinced everybody, including their fans, that everything was fine. We don't know what has been said and done within the band. /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Falcon on April 02, 2008, 02:53:33 PM kind of a faulty argument when Weiland LEFT to go back to his former band... The seeds to this entire fiasco were sewn when Slash went to his former bandmates home a couple years ago and the ensuing press release from the former bandmate that followed was issued. Allegations were made, fingers pointed and doubt's large shadow cast. Cause and effect..... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: DemocracyRose on April 02, 2008, 02:57:01 PM Well, Duff and Slash are also impossible to get along with. First Axl and now Scott. ;)
No seriously, this gives me a reason to listen to VR again. Im glad he is out. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: HBK on April 02, 2008, 02:57:45 PM SCOTT WEILAND Says Former VELVET REVOLVER Bandmates Are 'Covering Up The Truth' - Apr. 2, 2008 Vocalist Scott Weiland has released a statement to MTV News regarding his dismissal from VELVET REVOLVER. The founding members of VELVET REVOLVER ? guitarists Slash and Dave Kushner, bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Matt Sorum ? announced their decision to fire Weiland in a press release issued at the conclusion of the band's final performance with Weiland in Amsterdam, Holland. Slash cited Weiland's "increasingly erratic onstage behavior and personal problems" as reasons for dismissing him. In a statement released Wednesday morning, Weiland fired back at his erstwhile bandmates, stating, "After reading the comment by Duff, Matt, Dave and the illustrious 'Guitar Hero,' Saul Hudson, a.k.a. Slash, I find it humorous that the so-called four 'founding members' of VELVET REVOLVER, better known to themselves as 'the Project' before I officially named the band, would decide to move on without me after I had already claimed the group dead in the water on March 20 in Glasgow. "In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment [to the band], I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. The truth of the matter is that the band had not gotten along on multiple levels for some time. On a musical level, there were moments of joy, inspiration, fun ... at times. But let's not forget the multiple trips to rehab every member of the band had taken (with the exception of one member ? no need to mention his name). "Personally speaking, I choose to look forward to the future and performing with a group of friends I have known my entire life, people who have always had my back," Weiland continued. "This also speaks to my commitment to my music and my fellow bandmates in [STONE TEMPLE PILOTS] and to the fans who I feel would much rather watch a group of musicians who enjoy being together as opposed to a handful of discontents who at one time used to call themselves a gang." In conclusion, Weiland warned fans not to be "fooled by veiled trickery," and even wished VELVET REVOLVER his best. "Good hunting, lads ? I think Sebastian Bach would be a fantastic choice." http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...wsitemID=94064 HBK * Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Fingers on April 02, 2008, 03:00:51 PM He forgets the members of STP also moved on without him before (Talk Show), due to his behavior
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 03:01:04 PM The seeds to this entire fiasco were sewn when Slash went to his former bandmates home a couple years ago and the ensuing press release from the former bandmate that followed was issued. Allegations were made, fingers pointed and doubt's large shadow cast. Cause and effect..... Of course! Oh God..... Are you seriously blaming this on that press release? ::) How about the fact that Slash hasn't been able to tell a straight story in years? Maybe it's not easy being in a band with a guy who you just can't trust to be honest with you. Maybe Matt Sorum isn't the kind of team player you'd want in a band? /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: oldleadbelly on April 02, 2008, 03:07:05 PM the shot at Baz was unnecessary....seems to me like Scott is overestimating his relevance......IMO Stone temple pilots/Scott in 2008 are no more relavent than Skid Row and Sebastian bach are/were... STP were a 2nd wave grunge band Skid row were a 2nd wage metal band both have a couple of staple songs that get played on the radio... Calling STP a grunge band is the same as calling GNR hair metal. Not to mention they were a band well before several of the final incarnations of the seattle bands broke big. STP was just signed a little later, probably due to being from San Diego when everyone was looking at Seattle. Also, a couple of staple songs? STP songs still in regular rotation: Dead and Bloated Interstate Love Song Unglued Trippin Plush Creep Wicked Garden Sex Type Thing Vasoline Sour Girl Big Empty Dancing Days Let's not completely downplay their accomplishments Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: guns_n_motley on April 02, 2008, 03:08:07 PM this is on kerrangs site....Im not buying it yet because being close friends with axl idk if hed do it....but for what its worth.
"Sources close to the band have indicated that former Skid Row frontman - and close personal friend of Axl Rose - Sebastian Bach looks set to front the band, although nothing has been officially confirmed." http://www2.kerrang.com/2008/04/its_official_weiland_is_out_of.html maybe this is that "life changing phone call" that Baz got 2 weeks ago.. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Fingers on April 02, 2008, 03:09:49 PM That's a good point about the phone call changing his life-I have a feeling Slash, Duff already have been contacting people
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Falcon on April 02, 2008, 03:10:53 PM The seeds to this entire fiasco were sewn when Slash went to his former bandmates home a couple years ago and the ensuing press release from the former bandmate that followed was issued. Allegations were made, fingers pointed and doubt's large shadow cast. Cause and effect..... Are you seriously blaming this on that press release? ::) Uh..no... Where the hell did you get that? I'm placing blame for the begininng of the end squarely on the guitar player who made the trip to his former bandmates house. If he doesn't make that trip and subsequently lie about it on Camp Freddy Radio, this entire fiasco very well may have been averted. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 03:23:12 PM Uh..no... Where the hell did you get that? I'm placing blame for the begininng of the end squarely on the guitar player who made the trip to his former bandmates house. If he doesn't make that trip and subsequently lie about it on Camp Freddy Radio, this entire fiasco very well may have been averted. Thanks for the clarification. The fact that you mentioned the visit AND press release made me question what you were saying. If you would've just mentioned the visit and the lies, I would've seen what you were saying straight away. :) /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Fingers on April 02, 2008, 03:27:31 PM this is on kerrangs site....Im not buying it yet because being close friends with axl idk if hed do it....but for what its worth. "Sources close to the band have indicated that former Skid Row frontman - and close personal friend of Axl Rose - Sebastian Bach looks set to front the band, although nothing has been officially confirmed." http://www2.kerrang.com/2008/04/its_official_weiland_is_out_of.html maybe this is that "life changing phone call" that Baz got 2 weeks ago.. This would make things very, very interesting Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: BMo13 on April 02, 2008, 03:34:13 PM Who really cares who's fault it was (although I would bet on Scott seeing as how he seems like a prick/head case). I'm just glad that Slash and the guys seem ready to move on with somebody else. I didn't mind Weiland in STP, but he never fit with VR. The whole sebastian bach thing is interesting to think about, but I don't see it happening. I mean Slash seemed pretty against it 5 years ago, why would he change his mind? I still think the guy for the job is Hal Ozsan. You probably don't know who he is but follow the link below and see what you think of his singing/songwriting abilities, the whole cd was good old rock n roll! (oh and he recently quit his band for reasons that are unclear, so he'd be available)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvukow22eQM Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: BMo13 on April 02, 2008, 03:39:49 PM Oh and here's another of Hal Ozsan's songs that he wrote. See what you think. Oh and trivia tidbit, the band he was in (Poets and Pornstars) won the KROQ radio contest which meant they opened Inland Invasion when GNR headlined in 06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__CL3oLs7J8&feature=related Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: WARose on April 02, 2008, 03:54:28 PM finally this idiot left slash and duff alone.....
i don`t care who?s fault it is. imo scott`s an asshole. he lost any respect i ever had for him, after his ridiculous comment towards axl in 2005.... i saw velvet revolver live at rock am ring in 2007 by the way. i almost had to cringe, watching weiland doing his gay dance on stage with his floodwater pants.....people were sitting down etc. not really a situation i wanted slash to be a part of... however, scott`s statement seems to be basically truthful. i`m not too sure what kind of light this entire break up casts on slash`s reliability regarding the gnr break up... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: guns_n_motley on April 02, 2008, 03:54:36 PM this is on kerrangs site....Im not buying it yet because being close friends with axl idk if hed do it....but for what its worth. "Sources close to the band have indicated that former Skid Row frontman - and close personal friend of Axl Rose - Sebastian Bach looks set to front the band, although nothing has been officially confirmed." http://www2.kerrang.com/2008/04/its_official_weiland_is_out_of.html maybe this is that "life changing phone call" that Baz got 2 weeks ago.. This would make things very, very interesting melodicrock also says Baz is one person they are looking at as well as someone else... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: bazgnr on April 02, 2008, 03:55:26 PM Who really cares who's fault it was (although I would bet on Scott seeing as how he seems like a prick/head case). I'm just glad that Slash and the guys seem ready to move on with somebody else. I didn't mind Weiland in STP, but he never fit with VR. The whole sebastian bach thing is interesting to think about, but I don't see it happening. I mean Slash seemed pretty against it 5 years ago, why would he change his mind? I still think the guy for the job is Hal Ozsan. You probably don't know who he is but follow the link below and see what you think of his singing/songwriting abilities, the whole cd was good old rock n roll! (oh and he recently quit his band for reasons that are unclear, so he'd be available) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvukow22eQM Given how much time Sebastian has spent with Axl and GnR once the friendship was rekindled, I can't imagine him falling back in with VR unless he in some way had Axl's blessing. It would just be a class-less move. Like you say, though, I doubt the interest is there from either side at this point. I'm happy to enjoy "Angel Down," and wish Bach the best on his rejuvenated solo career. And considering these troubles in the VR camp have been brewing for some time now - alluded to in the A.F.D. Anniversary issue of Rolling Stone - it wouldn't surprise me if the VR people already know who they're going to next. I can't say I'll be following the band with much interest, regardless of who is handling vocals. Scott always seemed an odd fit for me, and I'll be glad to see him back with STP. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: BMo13 on April 02, 2008, 04:05:14 PM finally this idiot left slash and duff alone..... i don`t care who?s fault it is. imo scott`s an asshole. he lost any respect i ever had for him, after his ridiculous comment towards axl in 2005.... i saw velvet revolver live at rock am ring in 2007 by the way. i almost had to cringe, watching weiland doing his gay dance on stage with his floodwater pants.....people were sitting down etc. not really a situation i wanted slash to be a part of... however, scott`s statement seems to be basically truthful. i`m not too sure what kind of light this entire break up casts on slash`s reliability regarding the gnr break up... I woulnd't bring "slash's reliabilty regarding the gnr break up.." into this. For one this is coming from Scott Weiland who isn't the most credible/sane person out there. Secondly, what ended up happening with pretty much everyone involved with GNR seems to speak for itself. No point in bringing that crap up again... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on April 02, 2008, 04:21:14 PM In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point ::) Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's. Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault. According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault. I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement. Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober. Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac. He has proven time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes. He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation. I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one. VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise. Oh well. But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave. To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: BMo13 on April 02, 2008, 04:27:52 PM In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point ::) Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's. Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault. According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault. I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement. Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober. Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac. The guy has shown time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes. He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation. I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one. VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise. Oh well. But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave. To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes Or just bad judgement in who he picks to be in a band with him. Doesn't necessarily mean he's the one that causes the problems. As much as I love Axl, I wouldn't call him and Scott Weiland the most stable frontmen. My philosophy is that Slash likes that sort of danger in his lead singers, but in the end the postivite that comes from that seems to be outweighed by the negative aspects that come from that type of person. Atleast that's one way of looking at it.. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Shoco on April 02, 2008, 04:33:25 PM In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point ::) Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's. Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault. According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault. I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement. Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober. Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac. He has proven time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes. He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation. I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one. VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise. Oh well. But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave. To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes but then that applies to axl too, if you wanna say people left bands that slash was in, just as many left bands that axl was in Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on April 02, 2008, 04:42:03 PM In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point ::) Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's. Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault. According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault. I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement. Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober. Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac. The guy has shown time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes. He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation. I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one. VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise. Oh well. But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave. To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes Or just bad judgement in who he picks to be in a band with him. Doesn't necessarily mean he's the one that causes the problems. As much as I love Axl, I wouldn't call him and Scott Weiland the most stable frontmen. My philosophy is that Slash likes that sort of danger in his lead singers, but in the end the postivite that comes from that seems to be outweighed by the negative aspects that come from that type of person. Atleast that's one way of looking at it.. Or it could be that he displays many traits of a textbook narcissist. Slash has a very carefully crafted public persona where he always tries to come off as cool, that doesn't mean that's the way he is behind the scenes. He was caught in his web of lies repeatedly after Axl's press release, and is quick to pass the blame to everyone else. Because he has to maintain his image Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ppbebe on April 02, 2008, 04:48:37 PM but then that applies to axl too, if you wanna say people left bands that slash was in, just as many left bands that axl was in save that no one of the latter had to write a statement like this and seems to have no bad blood except the vr peeps.Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: chineseblues on April 02, 2008, 04:56:22 PM In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point ::) Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's. Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault. According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault. I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement. Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober. Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac. He has proven time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes. He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation. I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one. VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise. Oh well. But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave. To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes but then that applies to axl too, if you wanna say people left bands that slash was in, just as many left bands that axl was in Except Axl has nothing to do with this at all. Stop trying to make it about him. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Voodoochild on April 02, 2008, 04:57:31 PM I don't think Baz is a true possibility, but seems like the speculation began way before all the shit in Glasgow:
VELVET REVOLVER BREAKING UP? Confunsing news has been floating around these days surrounding the band. On www.rock-star.es, we were told by our US reporter, Michael Wainwright, that Slash and Duff McKagan have been in talking to some singers, with rumors about Paul Black from LA Guns and Perry Farrel from Jane's Addiction among other singers who would be able to audition to joing Velvet Revolver to replace Scott Weiland, whose situation in the band looks like very damaged. http://www.rock-star.es/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=174&Itemid=43 Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ppbebe on April 02, 2008, 05:03:14 PM I don't think baz is willing to be the next odd man out.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: cyllan on April 02, 2008, 05:24:26 PM I don't think baz is willing to be the next odd man out. Agree with you there, I don't think he'd want to touch this project with a barge pole. Although, I remain unconvinced that VR will continue anyway. I think it's obvious from what has happened over the past week that there was an ongoing power struggle between Scott and Slash, and that the press release mentioning that it wasn't necessarily the end of the band was Slash's method of making public his authority over the future of the band. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they get on with solo stuff for a while and the band is allowed to fade away quietly - after a live album is released to complete the contractual obligations. The only thing that I can see that may sway this decision is if there were some kind of financial incentive offered to them to remain together. This is only my opinion though and as the waters appear to be getting murkier by the day with each new comment by band members, it's getting more difficult to discern fact from fiction. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Continental Drift on April 02, 2008, 05:33:11 PM Given how much time Sebastian has spent with Axl and GnR once the friendship was rekindled, I can't imagine him falling back in with VR unless he in some way had Axl's blessing. It would just be a class-less move. Like you say, though, I doubt the interest is there from either side at this point. I'm happy to enjoy "Angel Down," and wish Bach the best on his rejuvenated solo career. True. But at the end of the day.... for all we know Axl wouldn't want to stand in the way of his good friend (Baz) getting a decent opportunity like fronting VR. I wouldn't be completely shocked if he gave his blessing. Having a "pro-Axl" guy fronting VR actually suits Axl's interests when you think about it... better to have the guy fronting the band made up of "old Guns N' Roses" speaking kindly of you as opposed to Weiland's bitching and moaning... Where I think Baz to VR starts to run into trouble is with the record execs/band mgmt. etc. They may want a guy who brings more of a "90's fanbase" to the fold like Weiland did... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: cyllan on April 02, 2008, 05:35:35 PM Well first of all I doubt Slash gives a fuck about what his "image" is. I mean for over 20 years it seems that's the way he's been and the only thing he takes seriously is making music and touring. Meaning that he could give a fuck about the rest of it. If you'd told me this in the early 1990s, I'd have agreed with you without a shadow of doubt, but today it's a very different story. I think that Slash is extremely aware of his image in the media and knows that the perception that he doesn't care about his image is, in fact, one of his most powerful selling tools. In almost every interview you read about this supposed lack of image consciousness, but I'm sure that the journalists who've been around a while don't actually buy into it, regardless of what is printed in their magazine, and I certainly don't believe it anymore. If you're looking for someone who genuinely doesn't care about image, I suggest you look towards Mr Stradlin. Edited for typo. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ppbebe on April 02, 2008, 05:39:17 PM yep cyllan, any of slash's past projects lasted more than a couple of albums?
Well first of all I doubt Slash gives a fuck about what his "image" is. I mean for over 20 years it seems that's the way he's been and the only thing he takes seriously is making music and touring. Meaning that he could give a fuck about the rest of it. his close friend says otherwise. : ok: "I have asked Slash to do that and to stop saying things to the press about axl. I think the reason Slash won't do that is because in his mind he won't look Cool. With Slash everything has to be so cool. " Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: gcluskey on April 02, 2008, 06:00:02 PM Slash already commented that Baz made VR sound like Skid Roses, personally I'd love to hear "Skid Roses" cos Baz is a great vocalist and his voice really suits the old GnR sound. He's proven this on his performances with Axl. Anyway I don't see the guys asking him to join after already rejecting him but I agree with Scott, whether he was being sarcastic or not, that he would be a fantastic choice!! Anyway the name Velvet Revolver should just die now. I know its become Slash and Duff's new brand name but VR was Scott, Slash, Duff, Matt & Dave. Bring back Steve and Izzy!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Freya on April 02, 2008, 06:08:37 PM Quote The seeds to this entire fiasco were sewn when Slash went to his former bandmates home a couple years ago and the ensuing press release from the former bandmate that followed was issued. Allegations were made, fingers pointed and doubt's large shadow cast. Cause and effect..... That did seem to do a lot of damage, but only because there was obviously a lot of insecurity about the whole band in the first place. I also think that Weiland just hated the constant comparisons to Axl and the GnR legacy. And his whole junkie issue....he mentions that they all except Dave, have been to rehab, numerous times, so I guess he won't take their advice about using again. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: bazgnr on April 02, 2008, 06:54:06 PM Quote The seeds to this entire fiasco were sewn when Slash went to his former bandmates home a couple years ago and the ensuing press release from the former bandmate that followed was issued. Allegations were made, fingers pointed and doubt's large shadow cast. Cause and effect..... That did seem to do a lot of damage, but only because there was obviously a lot of insecurity about the whole band in the first place. I also think that Weiland just hated the constant comparisons to Axl and the GnR legacy. And his whole junkie issue....he mentions that they all except Dave, have been to rehab, numerous times, so I guess he won't take their advice about using again. And really, why would he? Clearly, they can't take their own advice, or at least overcome temptations... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: bazgnr on April 02, 2008, 06:58:32 PM Given how much time Sebastian has spent with Axl and GnR once the friendship was rekindled, I can't imagine him falling back in with VR unless he in some way had Axl's blessing. It would just be a class-less move. Like you say, though, I doubt the interest is there from either side at this point. I'm happy to enjoy "Angel Down," and wish Bach the best on his rejuvenated solo career. True. But at the end of the day.... for all we know Axl wouldn't want to stand in the way of his good friend (Baz) getting a decent opportunity like fronting VR. I wouldn't be completely shocked if he gave his blessing. Having a "pro-Axl" guy fronting VR actually suits Axl's interests when you think about it... better to have the guy fronting the band made up of "old Guns N' Roses" speaking kindly of you as opposed to Weiland's bitching and moaning... Where I think Baz to VR starts to run into trouble is with the record execs/band mgmt. etc. They may want a guy who brings more of a "90's fanbase" to the fold like Weiland did... And how sad that would be if it turned out to be true. If VR was such a corporate entity at this point that label/management had a substantial say in who fronts the band. Granted, Slash is all over the place in terms of media endorsements and what not, but still - how much further could you get from what fueled Slash in his GnR days? Assuming Baz would even be considered at this point, I just can't imagine him following through on it. It seems like an active betrayal of all Axl has done for him over the past few years. I understand your point, but personally, don't see such a blessing - at least a sincere one - being offered. We'll see if and when any of this speculation plays out... :beer: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: SpiritDave on April 02, 2008, 07:24:22 PM In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth. That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point ::) Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's. Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault. According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault. I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement. Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober. Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac. He has proven time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes. He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation. I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one. VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise. Oh well. But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave. To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes but then that applies to axl too, if you wanna say people left bands that slash was in, just as many left bands that axl was in Except Axl has nothing to do with this at all. Stop trying to make it about him. Shotgunblues was the one who started using Axl and Izzy here ... so stop snapping at someone else. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: BMo13 on April 02, 2008, 07:37:04 PM Well first of all I doubt Slash gives a fuck about what his "image" is. I mean for over 20 years it seems that's the way he's been and the only thing he takes seriously is making music and touring. Meaning that he could give a fuck about the rest of it. If you'd told me this in the early 1990s, I'd have agreed with you without a shadow of doubt, but today it's a very different story. I think that Slash is extremely aware of his image in the media and knows that the perception that he doesn't care about his image is, in fact, one of his most powerful selling tools. In almost every interview you read about this supposed lack of image consciousness, but I'm sure that the journalists who've been around a while don't actually buy into it, regardless of what is printed in their magazine, and I certainly don't believe it anymore. If you're looking for someone who genuinely doesn't care about image, I suggest you look towards Mr Stradlin. Edited for typo. First off I'm wondering why my post got deleted?? Is there something wrong with civil discourse?? You can't present both sides of the argument.. But I agree with you. It seems like Izzy doesn't really give a shit about any of it. Which is cool, but it also seems like that carries over into the music with him. Such as the stories of him liking playing half a riff or song back in the day and then the rest of the band having to finish it. Seems like his "coolness" or nonchalant way of going about the music caused some problems eventually. That's based on past interviews,etc. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Continental Drift on April 02, 2008, 07:38:57 PM Assuming Baz would even be considered at this point, I just can't imagine him following through on it. It seems like an active betrayal of all Axl has done for him over the past few years. I understand your point, but personally, don't see such a blessing - at least a sincere one - being offered. We'll see if and when any of this speculation plays out... :beer: I agree with you as a general matter. I just don't think Axl would forbid Baz from taking advantage of a great opportunity like working with VR. It's probably more of a case that Baz sees the writing on the wall and knows that he couldn't possibly front VR w/o eventually the media forcing him into a Old GN'R (i.e. Slash, Duff, Matt) v. New GN'R (Axl, Dizzy) showdown. I'm guessing he wants no part of that. Will be interesting to watch though... : ok: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 07:43:45 PM First off I'm wondering why my post got deleted?? Because you were being an ass by bringing up stuff that had NOTHING TO DO WITH VELVET REVOLVER! /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: BMo13 on April 02, 2008, 07:52:36 PM First off I'm wondering why my post got deleted?? Because you were being an ass by bringing up stuff that had NOTHING TO DO WITH VELVET REVOLVER! /jarmo Haha, Okay tough guy. If you would of actually read my post I was responding to someone who was implying that this is evidence that it was Slash's fault GNR fell apart. I simpy expressed how easy it is to turn the same claims around the other way. Then I went on to say that type of shit is pointless in these discussions. Which it is, but apparently it's only pointless when it's directed at Axl. My mistake. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 02, 2008, 08:32:05 PM My mistake. Exactly. The first mistake you made was the get my attention..... Now I know you've been banned before so no need to try to act innocent with me. /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: disease51883 on April 02, 2008, 08:37:10 PM Just to get back on topic, I have to side with Scott in this mess. If I had to be around Matt Sorum for four years, I'm sure I'd be ready to leave the band too. Also, Slash was obviously doing damage control in his statement, in essence making Scott the scapegoat for all of Velvet Revolver's problems. And I'd be very surprised if that was truly the case.
The only part of Weiland's statement that didn't sit well with me was the Sebastian Bach remark. Mainly because Bach's such a great frontman. To be honest, Velvet Revolver would lucky to have him at this point. If I'm not mistake though, I'm pretty sure I heard Bach make Scott and STP comments after Velvet Revolver turned him down. So I guess it sort of evens out in the end. I've never been a Velvet Revolver fan, but hopefully things work out best for everyone. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: faldor on April 02, 2008, 09:12:53 PM Slash, Duff, and Matt are on their way to becoming Van Halen without the brand name by running through lead singers. I'm a huge fan of these guys with all the blood, sweat, and tears they infused into GNR's history but you've gotta stop and wonder. I always thought Eddie Van Halen was to blame for the fact that VH couldn't get along with Dave or Sammy for the long haul. It seems to be the same case here, again without the brand name. So as much as I appreciate the guys, I totally see where Scott's coming from here and have no problems with his comments. Maybe except for the shot at Bach, but lead singers seem very territorial, they make some outlandish statements. That's why people always seem to side with the guitarists, as they hide in the background and play the innocent victim.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Neemo on April 02, 2008, 10:23:06 PM gnr fans trashing him constantly for nearly 5 years prolly didnt help the situation :-\
and matt was the one that started airing the stuff publically...i'm a fan of all the guys...but coming out of rehab only to be dropped i dont think anyone can fault him for feeling a bit ganged up on ... i really thought that they would have been more sympathetic to scotts situation Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: estebanf on April 02, 2008, 10:23:41 PM At the end of the day this is nothing but good news: the end of a mediocre band composed ironically by very talented musicians, and a very happy day for all the STP fans like me.
I hope Slash a very rich career from now on and I also hope a good future full of good music for STP. I really dont care for the other three dudes. PS: I find Weiland's responses to attacks (this one, the ''botox-face'' one) much more creative and inspired than the songs he wrote for VR... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: dr. light on April 03, 2008, 12:22:01 AM bring rod jackson in aint life grand was an incredible album i think que has potential to be in velvet revolver
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: axlroses on April 03, 2008, 12:35:04 AM If you read Slash's book you would know that Rod jackson won't be singing with any band that Slash is in.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: lynn1961 on April 03, 2008, 01:23:19 AM There were probably a lot of factors that led to this point, which none of us know anything about. However, Scott's statement leaves a lot to be desired. He did not officially name the band - he helped in the process of it. The other four members were the founding members. And his statement about, "peforming with a group of friends I have known my entire life..people who have always had my back....enjoy being together". What a fucking joke. He didn't feel that way 5 yrs ago..... 4 or 5 yrs ago he said he enjoyed being with VR members and something about them having his back. Personally, from press statements he's made through the years, it seems he may be difficult to get along with, very sensitive to everything, volatile. Good for him, if he feels better being back with STP. I give that a couple years, at most, before he remembers why he thinks he really can't stand them, either. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: metallex78 on April 03, 2008, 04:28:10 AM There were probably a lot of factors that led to this point, which none of us know anything about. However, Scott's statement leaves a lot to be desired. He did not officially name the band - he helped in the process of it. The other four members were the founding members. And his statement about, "peforming with a group of friends I have known my entire life..people who have always had my back....enjoy being together". What a fucking joke. He didn't feel that way 5 yrs ago..... 4 or 5 yrs ago he said he enjoyed being with VR members and something about them having his back. Personally, from press statements he's made through the years, it seems he may be difficult to get along with, very sensitive to everything, volatile. Good for him, if he feels better being back with STP. I give that a couple years, at most, before he remembers why he thinks he really can't stand them, either. Only time will tell. Couldn't agree more. Scott seems like he was more than a handful to deal with, and I'm pretty sure he was saying the same nasty things about STP when he joined VR. I think he is better suited to STP anyway, and I really like all the music he's made with them, so good luck if it all works out and he's happier there. I think VR has so much more potential to go in a more hard rock direction than the STP-alternative stylings they were leaning towards with Scott. I'm really curious as to who they get in there next. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Wheres Izzy on April 03, 2008, 06:45:19 AM Scott can say all he wants about STP having his back but the story I always rememberwas that Dean almost kicked his ass cause Scott was so fucked up with the drugs and that led to the end of STP. And then when he joined VR I also recall reading interviews with him where he accused to Deleos of being hypocrites cause he said they did drugs and told him not to. Maybe it's all water under the bridge, and I have always liked STP and I hope they can still make some good music together, but don't say "we've been BFF since always and no matter what they have my back. When I see them the theme song from Friends rings in my brain."
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: overmatik on April 03, 2008, 11:10:48 AM I'm a great STP fan, but man, is this Scott touchy or what??? :hihi: Yesterday he were a big friend of Slash, and now he's using sarcasm to describe the guy! ::)
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Bill 213 on April 03, 2008, 11:15:50 AM I'm a great STP fan, but man, is this Scott touchy or what??? :hihi: Yesterday he were a big friend of Slash, and now he's using sarcasm to describe the guy! ::) Well that "big friend" you mention did kind of fire the guy, AFTER he quit the band in an attempt to save face so I don't think using a little sarcasm to describe $la$h was going too far. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: ppbebe on April 03, 2008, 11:20:15 AM :hihi: Yesterday he were a big friend of Slash, and now and / vice verca. This was just about a month ago...obviously something changed. :-\ SLASH: 'We Are Always There' For SCOTT WEILAND 'If He Needs Support' - Feb. 28, 2008 http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=91852 Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: overmatik on April 03, 2008, 11:31:39 AM :hihi: Yesterday he were a big friend of Slash, and now and / vice verca. This was just about a month ago...obviously something changed. :-\ SLASH: 'We Are Always There' For SCOTT WEILAND 'If He Needs Support' - Feb. 28, 2008 http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=91852 That's what comes when your form a band for reasons that are diferent from the simple pleasure of playing together, it don't passes to the test of time... Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: chriskon72 on April 03, 2008, 05:01:51 PM I was pissed when I found out Scott joined VR. Never liked STP too much (the odd song Vaseline, Down, that's about it). Although I'm sure that Slash is not without fault here, I'm glad to see Scott hit the fuckin' road. This is RnR, these guys are all on a huge ego trip...no one excluded. How can they not be? Baz won't join, no fuckin' way and VR won't ask him to either.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on April 05, 2008, 11:28:50 AM I was pissed when I found out Scott joined VR. Never liked STP too much (the odd song Vaseline, Down, that's about it). Although I'm sure that Slash is not without fault here, I'm glad to see Scott hit the fuckin' road. This is RnR, these guys are all on a huge ego trip...no one excluded. How can they not be? Baz won't join, no fuckin' way and VR won't ask him to either. After establishing a precedent with Weiland , Bach wouldn't work. VR always struck me as a classic rock sound with a modern edge. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 05, 2008, 12:42:49 PM I was pissed when I found out Scott joined VR. Never liked STP too much (the odd song Vaseline, Down, that's about it). Although I'm sure that Slash is not without fault here, I'm glad to see Scott hit the fuckin' road. This is RnR, these guys are all on a huge ego trip...no one excluded. How can they not be? Baz won't join, no fuckin' way and VR won't ask him to either. After establishing a precedent with Weiland , Bach wouldn't work. VR always struck me as a classic rock sound with a modern edge. Good analysis Jim Bob. I expect news in the next couple of days. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Jim Bob on April 05, 2008, 01:00:07 PM ^thats not Jim bob
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Smoking Guns on April 05, 2008, 01:05:46 PM ^thats not Jim bob Jim Bob, quit fucking changing your name!!!!!!!!! ha.... I thought you went from Senetor Bob to this guy, now you back to Bim Job. ha. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: bailyrose on April 05, 2008, 08:43:46 PM I think the Velvet Revolver guys already have a new singer.And have for quite some time.Probably even before Scott anounced he was going to tour with stp.The boys seen it coming.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: mrlee on April 07, 2008, 03:26:30 PM who is the member that didnt go to rehab....im guessing duff cause hes cool like that and does kung fu.
Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 07, 2008, 03:27:10 PM who is the member that didnt go to rehab....im guessing duff cause hes cool like that and does kung fu. I'm guessing Dave. /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: mrlee on April 07, 2008, 03:31:25 PM who is the member that didnt go to rehab....im guessing duff cause hes cool like that and does kung fu. I'm guessing Dave. /jarmo I dunno, theres hardly any news on him ever, cause hes the least well known in the band, so perhaps it was him but no one really gave a damn because he doesnt have the so called "star status" the others do. (not that i actually feel this way over him may i add just incase) Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Ines_rocks! on April 07, 2008, 03:42:02 PM who is the member that didnt go to rehab....im guessing duff cause hes cool like that and does kung fu. Well... Duff was rumoured to have been in rehab around 2006... However, he denied it... http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=50582 Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Wheres Izzy on April 07, 2008, 07:15:57 PM who is the member that didnt go to rehab....im guessing duff cause hes cool like that and does kung fu. Well... Duff was rumoured to have been in rehab around 2006... However, he denied it... http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=50582 Didn't Duff admit he went cause he was using painkillers? I coulda sworn he admitted he went back to rehab in some interview around the time Libertad came out. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: jarmo on April 07, 2008, 07:23:24 PM who is the member that didnt go to rehab....im guessing duff cause hes cool like that and does kung fu. Well... Duff was rumoured to have been in rehab around 2006... However, he denied it... http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=50582 Didn't Duff admit he went cause he was using painkillers? I coulda sworn he admitted he went back to rehab in some interview around the time Libertad came out. Mentioned here http://www.pr-inside.com/entertainment-blog/2007/07/29/dozing-slash-blocked-out-revolver-troubles/ /jarmo Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: Ines_rocks! on April 07, 2008, 08:01:20 PM who is the member that didnt go to rehab....im guessing duff cause hes cool like that and does kung fu. Well... Duff was rumoured to have been in rehab around 2006... However, he denied it... http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=50582 Didn't Duff admit he went cause he was using painkillers? I coulda sworn he admitted he went back to rehab in some interview around the time Libertad came out. Mentioned here http://www.pr-inside.com/entertainment-blog/2007/07/29/dozing-slash-blocked-out-revolver-troubles/ /jarmo it´s quite sad cos for these guys, having children or not, it´s absolutely the same. wouldn´t it be reasonable to at least resist the temptation knowing you have kids at home looking up for you? but as people say, once an addict, always an addict. :no: Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: SpiritDave on April 07, 2008, 10:59:09 PM I'm a great STP fan, but man, is this Scott touchy or what??? :hihi: Yesterday he were a big friend of Slash, and now he's using sarcasm to describe the guy! ::) Well that "big friend" you mention did kind of fire the guy, AFTER he quit the band in an attempt to save face so I don't think using a little sarcasm to describe Slash was going too far. I think you'll find you're wrong. Slash hasn't once said that VR 'fired' Scott. They said they parted ways. Simple. Stop making stuff up. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: fuckin crazy on April 07, 2008, 11:22:34 PM Didn't Duff admit he went cause he was using painkillers? I coulda sworn he admitted he went back to rehab in some interview around the time Libertad came out. I thought it was Benzos. Title: Re: Scott Weiland Responds to EW About Break Up Post by: izzbo on April 09, 2008, 05:35:32 PM Didn't Duff admit he went cause he was using painkillers? I coulda sworn he admitted he went back to rehab in some interview around the time Libertad came out. I thought it was Benzos. Yup - Xanax -= IzzBo =- |