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Slash keeps fans guessing over Zeppelin tour

Tuesday, 25 March 2008

Slash says it is unlikely his band, Velvet Revolver, will support Led Zeppelin on a world tour but has stopped short of ruling it out completely.

The rumours surfaced after Zeppelin's sell out gig at London's O2 Arena in December.

They were apparently confirmed by Revolver bassist and Slash's former Guns N' Roses bandmate Duff McKagan.

But Slash has told Newsbeat the band are concentrating on their next album.

He said: "There's been a huge rumour going around about us opening for them and I think that was something that was taken out of context.

"I think as far as Zeppelin doing a tour, that remains to be seen.

"I saw Robert last night and he's got his solo thing going on and as far as Velvet Revolver is concerned, we've got another record to do and we're not even thinking about that."

Velvet Revolver are currently wrapping up the UK leg of a European tour, while on stage in Glasgow on 20 March, singer Scott Weiland apparently told fans they were "watching something special ... the last tour by Velvet Revolver."

It is something Slash doesn't seem comfortable discussing.

He said: "Well, lets put it this way - this is not Velvet Revolver's last tour."

Another factor which adds to the uncertainty of Weiland's future with the band is a bout of online squabbling between the singer and the band's drummer and another former G N'R man, Matt Sorum.

Solo project

Slash has also confirmed that he is planning to release a solo album in the near future, working with guest vocalists.

He said: "I don't think I have the patience to do an instrumental record, so I want to work with a bunch of artists whose records I've played on and some who I've never worked with."

But, the self admitted nervous and insecure guitar player stopped short of relevaling any names.

He said: "I'm scared they pull out at the last minute and make me look like a schmuck."

Movie soundtrack

On top of his solo work and Velvet Revolver commitments, Slash has revealed that he is scoring his first movie, an independent called This Is Not A Movie.

He said: "It has nothing but guitars on the score so that's how I got turned on to it.

"But I like the director and thought, yeah, I could do this.

"It's not animated but it's definitely fantastical and very hardcore at the same time.

"I'm scared ****less!"

In the meanwhile, Slash has just unveiled his own limited edition collection of signature Gibson guitars.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_7312000/7312301.stm

maybe that means continueing with another singer?

Reading between the lines, that's what I would assume from:

Velvet Revolver are currently wrapping up the UK leg of a European tour, while on stage in Glasgow on 20 March, singer Scott Weiland apparently told fans they were "watching something special ... the last tour by Velvet Revolver."

It is something Slash doesn't seem comfortable discussing.

He said: "Well, lets put it this way - this is not Velvet Revolver's last tour."

New singer is already lined up.  Its all but a done deal.  I think they have picked who they want.  Maybe Scott found out and tried to spoil it by saying it was the last tour as if he was VR..... ::)

and what makes u say a new singer lined up???
lets face up 2 facts the guys all give different stories all the time .....nobody knows anything yet

when scott first came into the band all the music were already written right?

i think so.. and IMO the music were better on contraband then on libertad..

so if the band writes some music while scott is touring with STP then comes back i guess that might be a better record :P shame i don't like his lyrics, his vocals are ok but not what i would have wished for

or if the bands writes music and then hires a new singer.. the music will still be better then on libertad  :hihi:

most likely thing is that they get a new frontman after all this shit the last week, although i don't think the bandmembers know what'll happen in the future nor do anybody else

best thing altogether would be ditch matt and scott, then hire jocke and adde from hardcore superstar ;D

another idea would be ditch matt, scott and dave (sorry man) then get nicke borg and peder from backyard babies

don't ever see it happen but...
Sweden rules all :headbanger:  :rofl:

Well, that's good news. I hope they get someone good, finish the current touring and put out a kick ass new album. Maybe it's better this way. Guns N' Roses, VR AND STP for the fans. What could be better?

or it could also mean that Scott is under contract for three albums and promotional work for those....so he'll have to do more concerts....but i doubt that's the case....

Which would pretty much be what they're doing right now. Finishing up what they have to do so he can go tour with STP and be excited again.



/jarmo

however, they have a three album deal, and they've only done two....so it comes down to the mechanics of the contract...if scott is not a hired gun as far as the record company is concerned, then they could let him walk.....but if he is....that breach of contract could cost them millions....so perhaps what slash meant by that comment was that scott will come back to end his stint as per his contract...

I doubt they would sign a contract that requires a tour for each album as part of promotion.

Slash really can't be  believed here, Scott has moved on and Slash is in denial that his band is done.

Or maybe the STP reunion would cover up the breach of contract.

I'm sure the third album will be a live album, no way this band is going back in the studio anytime soon with Scott no matter what Slash says.

You're probably right, I'm not sure if promotion done by the band is usually stipulated in these contracts...how many "out takes" have VR got...tracks which didn't make the cut?

could they release those as an album?
possibly a live track or two on top...

There must be some b-sides and stuff they can use.




/jarmo

i like the sound of both these comments  :smoking:

Concern for the third album commitment is overblown - big time.

Multiple record deals are usually done to the sole benefit of the record company and can be deemed null and void by them (RCA) at any time generally.

Relatively speaking, it would be stupid for RCA to do anything more than put minimal monies into any future VR release for contract fulfillment purposes - IE, maybe a "live" album release with low production costs and little promotion.

Agree on that last point.  But, still given Slash's comments, I can't help but wonder if they are already thinking of going ahead with, or perhaps more likely, without Weiland.

Ali

Its going to be Robert Plant's son or the guy from Dark New Days which at this point both sound better than Scott.

With that in mind, I would think a Weiland-less VR would be in search of a new record deal.

A bit speculative and subjective there Smoke? :yes:

I am not familiar with the technicalities of their recording contract.  Would they be able to continue as VR without Weiland?  Would they even want to continue with their current label and deal?

Questions I am curious about.

Ali

If there is a third album itll probably be a live one, wasnt there talk before libertad came out of a live album in the works?

They have so many b-sides it would be easy to fill up another album with just those. Tack on 2-4 live tracks I'm sure they also have at the end and there you have album number three. The 3 album deal thing is a non-point if you ask me. I can only assume Slash saying that this is not VR's last tour means he himself at least is open to the idea of getting another singer or he is in major denial about the whole mess OR he is just trying to cover up some of the ugliness currently going on.

Wishful thinking.  Have you heard both these guys though?  My goodness, such fresh air. And they both have range.  Falcon, I am a dreamer. I am no longer a logical and objective poster.  I have jumped the shark.  I really like the band.  Scott has been the weak link since the begining.  Even with Set Me Free, which I love, but could have been so much better with a better singer.  Slither is Scott's best hard rock moment.  

No clue on specs of their deal here either although I would suspect RCA
would have little interest in a Weiland-less VR completing their current deal.

Well, companies gave a shot a Gary Cherone fronting Van Halen.  Weirder things have happened.

Weirder things......:idea:


Carrie Underwood, who knows the words to all VR songs and everybody including RCA is happy.

I should think so, look at all the songs that didnt make the libertad cut, that are actually better than any of the material on the album.

sounds to me like they will continue without Scott..

the 3rd record will probably be a live record...

Carrie Underwood just sold 7 million copies of her first album.  And she needs VR because...?

i'm sure slash would love to do a song with her on his solo album

It would be weird Scott going back to the studio with Matt. Everything now is just especulation... But a new singer is the more likely to happen.

Beyond that being unlikely, there's also Camp Freddy ramifications as well.

Both Matt and Scott are "core" members with CF as well, bet I know
which one of the two won't be around for their residency at The Roxy in LA in May....

Didn't Scott join later?




/jarmo

That would be better IMO, they don't really change their song smuch live plus I really wouldn't want to hear all those Contraband songs again, ugh.

Yep, sure did.

Billy Morrison and Dave Navarro can be heard talking about the Sorum/Weiland/VR stuff on the CFR podcast from last Saturday on www.6767.com, think its about 15 minutes in.  They don't say much, just some light hearted speculation.

Hal Ozsan is the guy they need to get! Back to some real rock n roll. He was the founder/songwriter/lead singer of the up an coming LA band Poets and Pornstars but he recently quit for some reason.  Watch the video below and see what you think...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpgCAkSHxNQ

She could be the "Rocket Queen"!  She is so hot.

Just like in the other thread I like it.  Are you Hal?  Or Hal's friend?

No just a fan because he seems like a driven/intelligent/talented rock n roller who's in it to have a good time and give people a good time.  Reminded of GNR when they started out..

My guess is, with Scott's history, he'll be excited for about 2 minutes, and then remember why he left STP, in the first place.   Maybe it'll work out for him & STP, and if so - good for him - but I'm not holding my breath. 

Not necessarily.  Of course, you know, Slash can never really be believed, can he?  Maybe they just need a long break.  Maybe Scott is done.  Who really knows?  But, I have a feeling that the other 4 guys are still interested in moving forward and continuing, as VR.   

In this instence I would believe Slash in pretty much saying VR will continue. It sounds like Scott made a decision himself and announced it to the crowd without consulting the band. So Slash is pretty much saying there is no intention to stop with the rest of the other guys. For the time being at least.
The could get together and say 'lets just go our seperate ways' but for now the thing I get from this is that just because Scott wants to quit and therefore thinks that VR is over, doesn't mean the other guys think the same way.
And I deffinatly think that VR can continue under the same banner without Weiland.

scott is in camp freddy no more ...altho its not been announced.....he's showed up well late for most of their gigs and core members are listed without scotts name and have been for a while now......i think its safe 2 say he's gone from there.

Slash isn't the most reliable guy on the planet, he is all about PR and sales talk. Proved it over and over again.

VR is finito, good riddance, another mediocre poseur money making scheme gone  :peace:

Yep, I've heard the same thing Paul and believe it fully.

Not sure if there'll even be an "announcement", probably done more subtle with images removed from the website and whatnot..

Yep, we all know Slash lies, right?   

Weren't you banned before? 

1. Slash changes his stories on everything depending on the weather forecast, just read his interviews, first it's black, then white, then pink.

2. Stop making dumb allegations towards forum members, my first and only account here..... it makes you look like a silly fangirl  :peace:

Atilla. .. I assume your name is some kind of joke?

Back on topic, first and last redirect.

It's my real first name but with an extra l. Is this now the "let's try to bash anyone who isn't  Slash fanatic" thread?

 : ok:

Did you not get the memo?

SLASH Talks To UK's SKY NEWS; Interview To Air Tomorrow - Mar. 27, 2008

Sky News entertainment correspondent Matt Smith talked to Saul Hudson, a.k.a. Slash, GUNS N' ROSES rock legend and member of VELVET REVOLVER, in an exclusive TV broadcast interview to be aired from 0600 on Friday, March 28 on UK's Sky News. An extended version of the interview will be carried on www.sky.com/news.

Slash speaks about his life of sobriety, his new range of guitars ? and about the odds of GUNS N' ROSES getting back together.

Blabbermouth.net

Oh God......  ::)

His band is falling apart so he has to talk about GN'R again? Move on.....



/jarmo

Maybe Mountain Dew is challenging them with a reunion.

Well to be fair, he was probably asked first.

What are you jealous no one cares about VR enough to do something like that with them?  ::)

He's asked first about 99.99% of the time, there's no getting around it.

It's been that way since he bolted the band, through Snakepit and continues to be the case through VR.

It will always be the case no matter how he or his former band(s) move forward.

He wrote a fucking book to get less GN'R questions and "clear things up".




/jarmo

Does it really bother you that much?

ummm, no, its a joke.  I am very happy if you read the thread on the other part of the board.

I got the joke.  Though, it may take more than a free Dew to get Weiland and Sorum to work together in the future :)

Ali

What, so he should never discuss GNR in an interview again?

Yeah, Slash is most famous for being in GNR, so in interviews he's expected to talk about the band. People generally like to ask Paul McCartney about The Beatles too.  I don't get what's so wrong about that, or why anyone would see it as some sort of character flaw.

Sure you are, I've been reading the other thread and you've been making snide comments throughout the whole thing.

I am on board!  At first I questioned it.  We still don't know everything.  Don't question my fandom.  Ha!

In reality, that book stoked the fire for more questions, it's that simple.

Bottom line:

Journalists will never stop asking those type of questions and with at least this version of VR breaking up - those questions will likely remain prevelent.

I agree.  : ok:

You are right and it's pathetic that people still ask ... I'd NEVER ask that if I were a journalist!  What an uninspiring set of questions to ask!

You will agree no doubt, that this is not Slash's fault... or ... maybe indirectly because he was a massive part of GnR and created their best known songs, he kinda created this inevitable never ending wish from people to want him back in the band ...

but ... as I say ... I think Slash, more than you ... I ... or anyone else in the world, will probably hate this question.  I've seen him answer it with longer quotes... because generally he's not rude to journalists... but I've also seen him show how tired he is of it by saying simply "There's no more to be said about it" ...

So I just hope people give up the questions about GnR.  GnR is the way it is now.  Like it or not.  I prefer the old GnR, but that doesn't mean I wanna see Slash get asked the same old "are you getting back into GnR" type questions!

It's annoying!

without Slash's signature sound Guns would sound like LA Guns/Hollywood Rose and never truly break

do you have nothing better to do other than bitch everytime slash answers a question?

 :crying:

You should've added "about the band he quit years ago" at the end.




/jarmo

Jarmo, there are a lot of good things going on with GNR right now.  Why focus on this?

Good point.  And, as many above, pointed out, he gets asked, despite the fucking book!!  I'm sure he gets sick of talking about it, too.   If I were a journalist, I wouldn't bring up GnR, either, but they do.  Statements, like that, are getting old.  Really old.     
 


Good quote, TomFriend!   

I know I'm dreaming here.... but what a cool gesture it would be to Guns N' Roses fans of all types if Axl could somehow sing on one of these tracks. I would think that they could do it without even seeing each other in the studio or collaborating with each other in any way.:drool:

I keep posting the same thing, I really think fans are building themselves up for a let down with Slash's solo album, especially with pipe-dreams like that last one lol. I think the album is going to have a lot of really shitty people on it no one here will care much for. Santana-esque. I think it's less likely to have Alice Cooper, Dave Mustaine, Lemmy, Anselmo, Tyler, or anyone great on it and more likely to have Daughtry, Rob Thomas, and Carrie Underwood.

Slash is personal friends of the rock stars you mentioned ... I am pretty damn sure that they'd drop everything to help Slash on his album.

I never said they wouldn't. I just don't think Slash is going to take it in that direction. I would lose my mind if he did. Those are basically a few of my favorite artists ever and they'd be working with my favorite musician ever. I just think it's gonna be shitty pop stars doing there own thing with some soloing. Santana made a fortune off of it. I would love it if it was more like Iommi tho. Thats a sweet album.

wow.. never heard of Poets & Pornstars..  just watched that video.. they are awesom.. sign that guy up.  see ya scotty..  i'm actually going to go get a Poets & Pornstars album.. i usually hate new music.. but i want to hear more.  the lyrics weren't the best.. but they had a great rock sound. 

They could always do the whole "live album" thing to get out of the deal - hundreds of bands have done that.

Thanks to Canuto on the VR forum for the following.

Friday March 28, 2008
Classic rock UK magazine

'There will be a Velvet Revolver after this tour,' Slash confirms
Classic Rock's Jerry Ewing recently spoke to guitarist Slash

However, we couldn't resist teasing you with the following nuggets:

Slash: I was talking with Robert Plant the other night and he was casually naming certain Zeppelin songs and then in the same breath who it was ripped off from.

Ewing: Did Guns N?Roses ever get taken to court for allegedly ripping anyone off?

Slash: No. One of the things about myself and the other members of Guns N? Roses, with the exception of maybe Izzy [Stradlin'], cos he was maybe a bit more freeform, was that we were huge sticklers for anything that sounded like anything else. Straight off the bat if you played a few chords and it really reminded you of something else we scrapped it. It?s very different with Velvet Revolver. Even though myself and Duff are the same way, and Matt, Scott will rip something. We?ll be like ?No, we can?t do that? and he?ll be like ?Oh, go on, let?s do it? and we?ll do it.

Ewing: Going back to Velvet Revolver, there?s been a lot said on the Internet between Scott and Matt. What?s the current state of play?

Slash: We?ve got six shows, ha-ha.

Ewing: How do you deal with that stuff flying around?

Slash: I have no comment. Obviously I?m very aware of everything that?s going on. The only thing I can add to that is in contrast to what Scott says there will be a Velvet Revolver after this tour.

Ewing: With Scott singing?

Slash: I have no comment on that [chuckles]. 

Stay tuned for further Velvet Revolver shenanigans.

- and you can read the full interview in a big warts-and-all Velvet Revolver exclusive, to be published in the issue of Classic Rock that goes on sale on April 30.

A mixture of metal and pop stars would be nice.  Although, the whole point is that it is commercially successful.  No matter what we think, Carrie Underwood would do that better than Lemmy could.  Slash is friendly and has jammed with a lot of stars.  He could get anyone from Iggy Pop, Lenny Kravitz, Carole King, etc. to sing on his album.  Which would be fantastic as long as he has the songs. 

I understand the reasoning behind him doing a carrie underwood thing ver Lemmy I just wish he wouldn't. As I said earlier Tony Iommi did the same thing Santana does only he got some real cool people on it instead of popular people and it's a really good album.

Slash: 'Velvet Revolver might continue without Scott Weiland'

Guitarist says the group are not splitting up

Mar 31, 2008

Velvet Revolver guitarist Slash has said that, despite recent reports of his band being in turmoil, they are not splitting up - although singer Scott Weiland may not be in the band for much longer.

As previously reported on NME.COM, Velvet Revolver's Scott Weiland and drummer Matt Sorum fell out after a recent gig in Glasgow, with Weiland suggesting that the band may never tour again.

Since the bust-up, Slash has told the Daily Star that the band will record another album, but possibly without the singer.

"There will be a third album," he said. "We don't know how or when but the core four guys will continue."

http://www.nme.com/news/velvet-revolver/35528

it will be interesting to see the new direction of the band.
depends of the new singer...

I hope this is true, but I wouldn't believe a word the daily star says!!

By the way - what I have noticed from this thread is that nobody really seems too bothered that Scott has gone and a new singer is a possibility... in fact I get the impression a lot of people actually see this as a good thing.

it's slash that said it to the daily star not the daily star that said it..

anyway about a new singer, i dunno if it's a good thing or think it'll be a succes but it's at least a bit exciting times to come i guess

I have always liked STP since I was a kid but I would love to see them with a new singer at this point. I really think Scott is holding them back at this point physically and creatively. With all Scott's Bullshit and problems and his intentions on acting, writing, doing a solo album, and whatever the future of STp is VR doesn't seem to factor in much of the time pie chart. I also think theres a lot of stuff in the songs I would like to see with a new singer i.e. more soloing from the man who in my opinion plays the best solos ever and some more Duff! Duffs bass playing in VR has been very standard to me, steady but it sounds like it could be anyone as opposed to Duff who generally has his own sound. Plus some Duff on vocals whether it be for a song or two lead or just backing would be sweet. Love Duff's voice.

It will be interesting to see what the future holds for VR.  It looks like if they are doing a third album it will be without Scott or down the road a bit...

Stone Temple Pilots Plotting Extensive Tour

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003783207

I am definitly not happy that Weiland might be going, I got into VR through being a GN'R fan but I looked into the STP stuff and Scott vocally and as a performer is simply amazing. It would be a shame to lose him but if its not gonna work I am glad that the other 4 guys will continue

I never liked Scott as Frontman, I think Slash/Duff deserve someone much better

Phil Anselmo