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"According to an E-mail sent by Bryan "Brain" Mantia to a fan, Brain is planning to get back with Axl and Guns N' Roses this year.

Brain has been off Guns N' Roses since the birth of his daughter in the summer of 2006."

Found at: http://www.gnrdaily.com/news_detail.asp?id=1165
thanks to: Slashrose - www.perfectcrimegnr.com

"According to an e-mail sent to a fan?"  I'm all for being hopeful, but I'll wait until I see something official from the band.  Frank's done a fantastic job, so whatever keeps GnR moving forward is fine by me...

shame, i actually thought frank was great with the band.

plus didnt he lay down recordings on chinese democracy...why would they have brain back, theyd only have to re-record it AGAIN....

what i know of and took for granted that was always his plan.. that he (brain) would be back when the record was going to be released, he was never out of "the GNR family"


as mrlee said, frank really suited GNR and he did change some songs for the better like IRS,

 

I think Brain preferred to stay at home and spend time with his own family and their newborn child, rather than tour and play mostly old songs again.

i hope this is true.

If I remember correctly Frank was a backup drummer on tour right? What if GNR went on tour and had both Brian and Frank drumming at the same time... that would be awesome ...

He said "I'm trying to get back with the Axl in 2008. Thanks for the kind words!"

It doesn't mean he will be back, but that he just is trying to do that.

For all I know they could promote CD and release it, and take Brain back AFTER that! Maybe he could be on "CD 2".

I like Frank in GN'R, he has a great attitude and enthusiasm as well as a presence behind the drums.

However Brain is one of the most gifted drummers I have ever heard and I really hope his parts are still on the new cd and I would love to get the opportunity to see him perform live with the band.

Wasn't Sebastian Bach raving about Brains drumming on the new songs he had heard?

God, don't even start on that.

An alleged email to a fan. This should be good for 4 to 5 pages at least. 

if that's what he said i take it like he's not sure that he's "welcomed" back but wanna get back (because the material is amazing :hihi: and no i'm not reading too much in to it ;))


 :hihi:

Since when did we get any notice from the band that Brain wasn't in the band? All we have heard is Frank is a back up drummer, don't assume anything. I personally think Brain should be back in since he did a lot of the drumming for CD.

This sucks!  I love Frank!  He is so great with the fans and looks like he is really into everything.  Always looks like he is having a good time.  Brain looks like he could care less and I really don't like past comments he has made about the band.

Yeah, it is:

From Tomek1985 at mygnr:

yeah,  they are two very good drummer. I am most familiar with Brain`s drumming, on albums, and stuff. But i have seen Frank 2 times live. He is great! He even played drums for Tool on a show some years ago. And NO ONE can be better then Danny Carey. So thats says quite abit! I have heard Brain`s drumming on varius albums, and he is for sure somewhere at the same level as Josh Freese and Danny Carey.

I think the reason people are abit concerned, is because Brain is not mentioned on the Guns N Roses myspace page. He have also been a member for quite some time now, and the GNR fans, has accepted him as a "longtime GnR drummer".

maybe he meant he's going to get back AT Axl...
I think the word is Axl had Frank and B-Foot contribute to the album after they had been touring w/ the band..So there may still be some B-Head N' Brain on CD.

yeah, that's me who spread this, let's hope it'll make true.

I would think that is correct. He laid most of the tracks on Serj Tankian's new album, and Serj then had to get another drummer for his tour.

Yes, and additionally Beta has said that Brain not touring with GN'R had everything to do with his baby and that Brain is still very much in touch with the GN'R camp on a weekly or bi-weekly basis.  I think everything is cool on the Brain-GN'R tip.

Ali

most of the cd will be bh and brain...ron and frank did a a few days of work....brain is far and away a better drummer...

Yeah, I remember when he left the story was he would rejoin the band when the album was set to come out.  So I guess, Chinese Democracy starts NOW???

I don't know how legit that story was, but that was the word.

we (the fans) have no idea about how much ron and and frank recorded.. i'm sure the record is mostly brain, but i'm not so sure that there will be any BH, if there is much BH it's fine to me since he's among the greatest guitarists ever, but i think i read that frank and ron recorded between the europeean and NA tours and after the NA tour.. Del said that all recording was done back in march last year i think but who knows they might have added more stuff if it was better then was already there, now the record is finished though, that's all we know. time will tell

As much as I love Frank, I think Brain is great for the band and would love to see him back. Brain's drumming on Mr. Brownstone alone merits himself an invitation to the band, imo.

I thought he was just on maternity leave. Wasn't he always going to come back?

I like Brain as a drummer but I think Frank's style and performance fits the band so much better. They are both brilliant drummers but Frank's personality and stage presence suits Guns N' Roses so much more.

Maybe they can throw Brain on some other percusion and make him like the "New" Zig Zag.  :hihi:


 :peace:

That was the plan, but he didn't come back and then was published as "Ex-Guns N' Roses Drummer", however the band still considers Brain as an official member. Both Frank and Brain are official members.

I like both drummers no offense Frank but I prefer Brain but why can't both of them be on the record ? it would be fair to both cause they both recorded parts on the album.  Promotion wise they could promote use both players.

The most exciting thing, if this is true, is that there is a reason for Brain to get back with Axl in 2008!

Discounting the grammar issues (no one's perfect), has anyone noticed that the original poster didn't even read the email correctly. It doesn't say he's "planning" to get back. It says he's "trying." There's a big difference there. But I'm sure we're about to have 16 pages of speculation on this topic anyway.

Axl N' Roses? New GN'R?

Wait...I'm here for Guns N' Roses. There's no Axl N' Roses or New GN'R. If somebody dislikes Guns N' Roses is his/her problem but don't invent names...

P.S.: I prefer Ferrer.

it was said that Brain is on CHINESE DEMOCRACY so that would make him, Still, in the band. If he wasn't then if history has tought us anything its that Axl would have held onto CD longer so that he could get all of franks drums on there. Since the album is in i think that Brain is still in G'n'R and frank is nothing more than a replacement at the time.

Refer to the link in my sig


:peace:

Brain is cool, Frank is cool.   Either way, GnR has a solid drummer which is a dept that has been lacking in the past. 

BRAIN is a far superior drummer than FRANK.  Hopefully Buckethead follows him back!  That would be perfect!

How so?


 :peace:

Brain already said that as far as he knows, he's still on 90% of the album. :)

The band and Baz said that too.


 :peace:

Check out Brain going to town in the backround in this clip, it shows just how talented he is:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=61k041I4aEo

Plenty of presence also :)

he did say something like this last year too in an interview with the EMS guys.. that he was gonna "rock out in 2007" (with axl) but since the record wasn't out or ready to be released he stayed with his family

its like this though


Brain is far superior technically and really acing and keeping in time with the drum beat and the rythm of a song

on the other hand, he doesnt look like he appreciates being their as much as ferrer,

but you can hear on  the Budokan Concert Flac, that Tommy said "Hey franks having a few timing issues, lets..."


So it comes down to choice

energetic performance , that a drummer really gets into the show,


or a Techinically far superior drummer

imo, I prefer brain ..

...whilst laughing?

Maybe he characteristically doesn't show it much but in a serious interview he said he loved being in GNR and with gnr he'd not be a hired gun.


Yea, his putting it as 'trying to get back with the axl' is rather odd. But it's brain.....

when and where did brain say that he loved being in gnr and he'd not be a hired gun? not that i'm questioning this, i just want to read that interview...

look in the GNN section.  Years ago Gypsy posted the article.

yeah thanx. found it. nice interview.

I have to be serious, I never knew he left. Nothing was ever made official.

They suck without Brain? I don't know how anybody really can tell the difference. They just sounded kick ass to me, no matter who was on the drums.

officially he was never out of the band. just pausing. but people kept on speculating...

i always had the feeling that he'd be back for the band, when he was needed in the studio, for videos and for live gigs that would feature more new songs from cd (some of them brain co-wrote)...

I hope he does come back, but it really doesn't matter at this point. Objective # 1 for me is absolutely the release of this album ( which I hope he's on)
and not what the latest incarnation/starting lineup is going to be present if they decide to tour again without a release date.

Great news if true. Frank has been a solid substitute... and no reason why he still can't be a touring member of the band when needed, etc... BUT Brain has been a part of all this since 2000 and he's evidently a very BIG part of the Chinese Democracy tracks. At the end of the day, he's a supremely talented drummer... and he's been there for all the up's and down's of new GN'R... which gives him (along with Dizzy, Tommy Robin and Chris) a little extra credibility as a Gunner IMHO... one of the "core" guys if you will...

Which part?

what makes frank special is that he has lots of stage presence and that he makes the live guitar solos (the ones between the songs) cooler, when he joins and hits some nice grooves. the bluesy jam with robin was something i really enjoyed... i also liked what he did on irs durig the bumble solo. but brains drumming is more spectacular, i have to admit. he is tight like a machine and has a real heavy, modern feel. but not as straight and "dead"-sounding as matt sorum, who is still stuck in the 80's.

Unlike the press statement issued after Buckethead's departure, Brain's departure was never implied as a definite goodbye, they just stressed he was taking a break/hiatus from the band, like Beta stated in that interview recently. He might not ever come back to touring with GNR live, but he has left his mark on the band - assuming of course his drum tracks are still all intact on the eventual album/s.

Frank is a great drummer, but Brain is much more technical and plays with more power.