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Title: GTA IV
Post by: patmac54 on January 29, 2008, 08:24:26 PM
I don't know if this has been addressed yet, but here goes...
Remember how Axl was a D.J. named "Tommy Nightmare" in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas?
And how Welcome To the Jungle was in the game as well?

...Well does anyone know if Axl will be back as Tommy Nightmare in GTA IV????

...It would also be pretty cool to have a song like "Better" on one of the radio stations in the game, good promotion too :beer:


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: downzy56 on January 29, 2008, 09:58:07 PM
It could happen, but generally there's very few radio personalities that get carried over from each game.  Keep in mind each game takes place in different time periods. 

It would be an awesome platform to profile a new GNR song, considering this will be one of, if not the biggest game of the year.  You're guaranteed 4-5 million people hearing your song.  Seems like video games are a solid choice in promoting a band's music nowadays.  Just look at what the Guitar Hero series has done for many forgotten and unknown bands.

Cheers,

Andrew


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Bill 213 on January 29, 2008, 10:59:23 PM
Exactly, Axl would be extremely genius to put a new tune in GTAIV.........last year Video Games outgrossed the film industry by a shitload and it's expected to be the same this year.  GTAIV will be the biggest game of the year no doubt, what a better what to get the new song out there..........have it played in the ads or on the game's menu screen.  That would be brilliant.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Funeral on January 29, 2008, 11:04:41 PM
What about us old folk who still have Comodore 64?   :'(


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: mrbucketfoot on January 29, 2008, 11:05:50 PM
Exactly, Axl would be extremely genius to put a new tune in GTAIV.......

Hint, hint, Uncle Axl.  ;D


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on January 29, 2008, 11:16:53 PM
hmmm i'll be damned, i knew Axl played a role in the game but i guess i never relised that he was actually Tommy N :P


i think since WTTJ was on a hard rock station they should have maybe something like Ryiahd and the Bedouins ya know something short and heavy and then on a soft rock station like Tommy manned they could have Patients :smoking:

that'd be cool :peace:


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: gunns1 on January 30, 2008, 04:36:18 AM
"Look shithead I run through Life with a torch in one hand and a sword in the other,
And when I play the music the program director tells me to, I dont care if;
your hair is green,
you love men,
or your missing fingers,

sooner or later its Logger time,
who cares about the listeners anyway,


best quote from axl imo,

btw thats from the gta game..



Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: seely on January 30, 2008, 05:15:13 AM
Qute a good idea actually, it would be a good way for the record company to promote CD without having to spend excess money on marketing a single/promotion..............


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: suicide on January 30, 2008, 01:56:36 PM
GTA IV was scheduled to be released in 2007 but just wasn't ready in time...  :rofl:


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: LunsJail on January 30, 2008, 02:08:27 PM
GTA IV was scheduled to be released in 2007 but just wasn't ready in time...  :rofl:

I heard a rumor that it was done but the developer was holding it up somehow. :hihi:


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on January 30, 2008, 07:17:01 PM
"Look shithead I run through Life with a torch in one hand and a sword in the other,
And when I play the music the program director tells me to, I dont care if;
your hair is green,
you love men,
or your missing fingers,

sooner or later its Logger time,
who cares about the listeners anyway,


best quote from axl imo,

btw thats from the gta game..




i LMAO when i first heard that :rofl:


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: patmac54 on January 31, 2008, 11:01:11 AM
Somewhere in San Adreas Axl actually says something like, "I've always said, all you need is a little patience"


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: mrbucketfoot on January 31, 2008, 05:37:16 PM
A new song would be appropriate. The soundtrack for GTA IV is targeted to be fresh music often from unheard indy artists. If Axl's people got in contact with Rockstar, I'm sure they'd be glad to put a song in on one of the stations. It's mutually beneficial. Big video game reinvented for the next generation, GNR is back to rock a new generation just the same.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 31, 2008, 05:39:48 PM
A new song would be appropriate. The soundtrack for GTA IV is targeted to be fresh music often from unheard indy artists. If Axl's people got in contact with Rockstar, I'm sure they'd be glad to put a song in on one of the stations. It's mutually beneficial.

Do you know anything about GTA? The soundtrack is targeted to be part of the era that they are doing Vice City was straight 80's , SA was early 90's type grunge and early gangsta rap.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: mrbucketfoot on January 31, 2008, 05:44:36 PM
Do you know anything about GTA? The soundtrack is targeted to be part of the era that they are doing Vice City was straight 80's , SA was early 90's type grunge and early gangsta rap.

Yes I do, I've played every game from start to finish. I understand that San Andreas was a WTTJ-era song. Actually it was somewhat inappropriate as the game was set in 1992 and "You Could Be Mine" or "November Rain" would qualify as the main songs at the time. However, Jungle is and was a great and recognizable song so whatever.

The point is GTA IV is set in the present day. That's why the music is geared towards underground artists. There isn't much going on in mainstream music. Sure there is some. Rockstar has always found a great balance in their Soundtracks and encompassing the scope from the whole era, not just synth-pop from the 80's Vice City or the grunge/gangster rap 90's San Andreas.

GTA IV is aimed to be culturally relevant to the times. GNR is still musically relevant. Therefore, a song from 'Chinese Democracy' would be appropriate.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 31, 2008, 05:56:18 PM
Do you know anything about GTA? The soundtrack is targeted to be part of the era that they are doing Vice City was straight 80's , SA was early 90's type grunge and early gangsta rap.

Yes I do, I've played every game from start to finish. I understand that San Andreas was a WTTJ-era song. Actually it was somewhat inappropriate as the game was set in 1992 and "You Could Be Mine" or "November Rain" would qualify as the main songs at the time. However, Jungle is and was a great and recognizable song so whatever.

The point is GTA IV is set in the present day. That's why the music is geared towards underground artists. There isn't much going on in mainstream music. Sure there is some. Rockstar has always found a great balance in their Soundtracks and encompassing the scope from the whole era, not just synth-pop from the 80's Vice City or the grunge/gangster rap 90's San Andreas.

GTA IV is aimed to be culturally relevant to the times. GNR is still musically relevant. Therefore, a song from 'Chinese Democracy' would be appropriate.

 :rofl: Sorry but a track from an album that hasn't come out is not going to make it into the track list , Rockstar will ( sadly ) probably get whats going on currently in the rock scene

Fall Out Boy , MCR , Panic , Nickelback , Kid Rock

But I'm sure they'll chalk it full with great classic rock stations , now that I think of it another GN'R song ( on a classic rock station format ) is possible. Eh but doubt they'll use anything from CD.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: mrbucketfoot on January 31, 2008, 08:01:16 PM
Rockstar doesn't put in what's popular. They have taste. They put in music that is good and fits the mood.

I'd be shocked if they had shit bands like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, or any of the other hipster bullshit.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: *Timothy* on January 31, 2008, 09:16:20 PM
Hey ! Their ain't nothing wrong with MCR.
Guns having  a song in the game would be cool , but also be kinda pointless , unless it were something
no one has heard live or thru leaks.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: G2N2R on February 01, 2008, 06:38:42 PM
I agree that marketing the new "single" would be smart on this game, seeing as how it will sell like crazy, but like some peolpe have already mentioned each game takes place in a different era.

It wouldn't make sense for a song like "better" to appear in this game if it takes place when that type of music wasn't common place, which is the same argument for why Axl couldn't return as the DJ.


Bottom line, don't expect Axl or a new song from GNR to appear in the game.

Though I do think they will try and find some big name person(or as close to a big name as they can find) to do something on a radio show for the game.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Mooch on February 02, 2008, 03:35:50 AM
this might be a bit off topic, but still relavent IMO.  Has anybody tracked down the audio of Axl DJ'ng in San Andreas?  I loved playing that game and had all of Axls lines memorized.  Does anybody here have the audio of him from the game?


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: CheapJon on February 02, 2008, 05:06:17 AM
a new song on GTA IV would be huge, it's guaranteed to be one of the most sold games of 2008, promoting music through games is a very good idea, and they should try to get a song on madden 09 and nhl 09 too, even if those games don't get released until the last quarters of the year it could push the sales a bit :yes:

this might be a bit off topic, but still relavent IMO.  Has anybody tracked down the audio of Axl DJ'ng in San Andreas?  I loved playing that game and had all of Axls lines memorized.  Does anybody here have the audio of him from the game?

yes, just use the search engine :)

"Look shithead I run through Life with a torch in one hand and a sword in the other,
And when I play the music the program director tells me to, I dont care if;
your hair is green,
you love men,
or your missing fingers,

sooner or later its Logger time,
who cares about the listeners anyway,


best quote from axl imo,

btw thats from the gta game..




i LMAO when i first heard that :rofl:

don't you guys thinks he says "Lager time" though? i always thought that


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on February 02, 2008, 04:40:05 PM
you know how in the music industry people are divided into groups? there are the metalheads that listen to rock/metal, there are the hippies that won't listen to anything past 1979, the ravers that listen to electro, the dumbshits that listen to pop, etc etc etc... so too are there divisions in gaming. there are the preppy/jock type people (mainstream) that play halo and sports games, the nerds that play rpg's like final fantasy, the "casual" gamer that plays mario, etc etc... but guess what? EVERY FUCKING BODY plays Grand Theft Auto. It's just one of those games that no matter what you're into, even if you don't even LIKE the GTA series, you at least RENT it and play it.. and a LOT if not most people that play video games (especially the jocky preppy frat kids playing halo) don't know two shits about gnr.. if you think it's a good idea to reach a broad audience and get new fans, then putting songs in video games is a GREAT idea.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: AbominableHoman on February 02, 2008, 07:00:44 PM
I agree that marketing the new "single" would be smart on this game, seeing as how it will sell like crazy, but like some peolpe have already mentioned each game takes place in a different era.

It wouldn't make sense for a song like "better" to appear in this game if it takes place when that type of music wasn't common place, which is the same argument for why Axl couldn't return as the DJ.


Bottom line, don't expect Axl or a new song from GNR to appear in the game.

Though I do think they will try and find some big name person(or as close to a big name as they can find) to do something on a radio show for the game.

I pretty much agree with you 100%. nuGNR won't be on the game.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Alan on February 03, 2008, 09:12:06 PM
I agree that marketing the new "single" would be smart on this game, seeing as how it will sell like crazy, but like some peolpe have already mentioned each game takes place in a different era.

It wouldn't make sense for a song like "better" to appear in this game if it takes place when that type of music wasn't common place, which is the same argument for why Axl couldn't return as the DJ.


Bottom line, don't expect Axl or a new song from GNR to appear in the game.

Though I do think they will try and find some big name person(or as close to a big name as they can find) to do something on a radio show for the game.

i thought this GTA was set present day.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: CheapJon on February 04, 2008, 10:41:22 AM
I agree that marketing the new "single" would be smart on this game, seeing as how it will sell like crazy, but like some peolpe have already mentioned each game takes place in a different era.

It wouldn't make sense for a song like "better" to appear in this game if it takes place when that type of music wasn't common place, which is the same argument for why Axl couldn't return as the DJ.


Bottom line, don't expect Axl or a new song from GNR to appear in the game.

Though I do think they will try and find some big name person(or as close to a big name as they can find) to do something on a radio show for the game.

i thought this GTA was set present day.

it is.. this guy who thinks he knows what he talks about, well he don't know shit :)


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Naltav on March 18, 2008, 08:06:52 AM

On March 20th. the official GTA-site will have a "Music Section Update" (www.rockstargames.com/IV)

Fingers crossed for some GN'R included in the game!!  : ok:

Could be possible, since the game is set in present time......

I've allready pre-ordered the special-edition, wich includes a CD.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: mrbucketfoot on March 18, 2008, 12:25:31 PM
I'd love GNR to be in this game, but unless there is a official GNR website update on March 20th as well you can pretty much count it out. I don't know how forthcoming they will be about the music selection, but considering GNR is a huge name, I'd think that they'd want to promote both them and them in their game.

Like for San Andreas, they had "Jungle" in one of the trailers (which got on TV if I'm not mistaken). I just don't think once the game shows up on our doorsteps we'll be surprised to see GNR is in it.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: suicide on March 18, 2008, 02:20:18 PM
The games have never been promoted on gunsnroses.com. GTA San Andreas, Guitar Hero or Burnout Paradise were never mentioned on the official GN'R site.
However, I don't think GTA IV will feature anything GN'R related since it's set in the present day and GN'R isn't 'popular' right now (meaning not in the charts, no single, no album, no tour, no news, ...). Maybe GTA V will be more suitable if it's set in the future and Chinese Democracy is about to be released.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: mrbucketfoot on March 18, 2008, 03:16:50 PM
Well the soundtrack, like the game, is contemporary. The popularity or lack thereof is completely irrelevant. Rockstar is known for choosing songs that they like and it doesn't matter what/where it's from.

If it fits the mood of the game and the period, then it'll be in the game. I know that the others weren't announced, but those are old songs created by the old lineup. The only way that a song will be in the game is if it's from Chinese Democracy and if a new song never released is going to be included in a video game, then it would be for the purpose of getting the new material out there and promoting a new album. The band isn't going to release a new song and not have any information about the album. It's like "this is our new single, and you know...the album's coming out...erm....sometime..?".

So, it's very unlikely for the band to feature a song in this game for many reasons.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Naltav on March 19, 2008, 03:33:23 AM
I'd love GNR to be in this game, but unless there is a official GNR website update on March 20th as well you can pretty much count it out.

If I'm not mistaken, there was no mention of Axl's contribution on San Andreas prior to the release in 2004. Not from Rockstar or GN'R. With that said, i must say, I also have my doubts, it was just a thought that came to mind when I read about the "Music Section Update"  :)

I don't think GTA IV will feature anything GN'R related since it's set in the present day and GN'R isn't 'popular' right now

Like mrbucketfoot pointed out, the GTA-games have always featured songs from various time-periods. Like San Andreas was not just grunge and gangsta-rap. The different radio stations had different "themes".

Does anybody know if Axl or Rockstar ever commented on his participation in San Andreas? Would have been cool to find out how that came about, and what he thought about that experience.....



Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Brundle25 on March 19, 2008, 06:01:08 AM
A good idea for Axl would be to drop in a new track into GTAIV but have one of the DJ's talk over the song at the beginning, middle and end so to make it un-replayable outside of the game.
I think that's a smart Idea! Would keep it off teh raidio until the proper release!


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on March 19, 2008, 06:13:40 AM
A good idea for Axl would be to drop in a new track into GTAIV but have one of the DJ's talk over the song at the beginning, middle and end so to make it un-replayable outside of the game.
I think that's a smart Idea! Would keep it off teh raidio until the proper release!


Why would you want to have a song with a DJ in the middle?!

What would be a REAL good idea ( the best idea IMO ) is on the "modern" rock station for the game to have an ad where its like

" Are you ready? Chinese Democracy starts NOW get your CD at local retailers! Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses are back and they are hitting harder then ever with the latest tracks like "Better" , "IRS" , etc... !" and have a exclusive sample or clip of a song from CD. That idea to me makes more sense.


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Brundle25 on March 19, 2008, 08:10:12 AM
A good idea for Axl would be to drop in a new track into GTAIV but have one of the DJ's talk over the song at the beginning, middle and end so to make it un-replayable outside of the game.
I think that's a smart Idea! Would keep it off teh raidio until the proper release!


Why would you want to have a song with a DJ in the middle?!

What would be a REAL good idea ( the best idea IMO ) is on the "modern" rock station for the game to have an ad where its like

" Are you ready? Chinese Democracy starts NOW get your CD at local retailers! Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses are back and they are hitting harder then ever with the latest tracks like "Better" , "IRS" , etc... !" and have a exclusive sample or clip of a song from CD. That idea to me makes more sense.


I was just thinking if Axl was paranoind about having a new track (nothing heard so far) being played over the air on real radio stations after a GTA IV release, by adding an overlap by the in game DJ would prevent that....


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: Voodoochild on March 19, 2008, 08:50:50 AM
As much as its indeed an excellent opportunity to launch new music - this game is gonna be HUGE - it would only make sense if they put the album or the single itself by that time (April 29th, I guess). That's the obvious speculation.

But why the hell does it needs to be a "unheard" new song? Do you really think all those people already know Better or any of the other CD songs leaked or played live? If so, why would they consider to release Better as single in that HD ad in late 2006?


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: sick_of_this_life on March 19, 2008, 09:42:03 AM

On March 20th. the official GTA-site will have a "Music Section Update" (www.rockstargames.com/IV)

Fingers crossed for some GN'R included in the game!!  : ok:

Could be possible, since the game is set in present time......

I've allready pre-ordered the special-edition, wich includes a CD.


Damn! That website is too cool!


Title: Re: GTA IV
Post by: ToEachesOwn on March 25, 2008, 02:15:15 AM
What about putting a new tune on Madden?  Bon jovi debuted "Everyday" on the franchise and Green Day debuted "American Idiot".  For those who play Madden, you know how many times you're forced to listen to a song on the menus.