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I think something very very weird is going on here.


I started a new thread because I dont want to corrupt the RIP thread.



Why would she get his phone and call Mary Kate Olsen 3 times for 9 minutes before calling the police? To me this is insane and very, very fishy.


Is it possible he had drugs or pill bottles she gave him with other drugs and the lady found the bottles and called her to see what she wanted done?


Im a conspiracy theorist at heart, Im not sayin she had anything to do with his death or anything that far out there, but why the phone calls to her of all people?

Something just doesn't add up.

There was something in that APT that wasn't suppose to be found.

Honestly, I thought it was weird as well, since Olsen wasn't romantically involved with him.

Now let me tell you something that happened to me when I was about 16.

It was on a morning, I had no classes on that day. I was alone at home and at about 10 am my step sister called me. She told me that her dad had collapsed in her kitchen, that she didn't know what to do... She tried to talk to him and he didn't seem to hear. I told her to keep on trying because it had already happened before when he was in his bed. It hadn't  lasted very long.
She called me back a few minutes later to tell me she was really concerned.
I don't know how long it took before she decided to call 911. Maybe 10 minutes, maybe longer.
When my step father eventually got to the hospital, they found out that he had been the victim of a stroke and he remained in a coma for months. He eventually recovered and got back home after 9 months spent at the hospital.
I don't know if he would be in a better shape if my step sister  had called 911 the minute he collapsed. Maybe.
All of this to point out that at times, we don't make the right decisions in serious situations.

I too have been the recipient of a call before the paramedics. It means absolutely nothing other than the person panicked and didn't know what to do.

Yeah but why Mary Kate Olsen of all people? That is just very very weird.

i don't know... the masseuse had her and Ledger as clients, she knew they were friends. And it seems that Olsen doesn't live too far.

Now, why did my step sister call me? I was 16 and she was 26 or something... She was the adult, she should have known better.  :confused:

Rumor has it that they had been seeing each other. Her number was the first number that came up on his redial?

Wow, who really gives a shit?  Dude's dead, there was no great "Oswald acted alone" conspiracy.....that's all she wrote. 

It is a tragedy ANYTIME someone losses their life to chemical dependency.

Well Bill, maybe D, like a few of us, asks himself wether Simpson's reaction was one that did NOT save Heath Ledger.

He was unconscious but maybe not dead, so an extra 10 mn spent on the phone could, maybe, have been crucial.

There was the same kind of debate about Princess Diana and how the paramedics spent 20 mn before arriving on the accident scene and had they been faster, she might have been alive today.

Her name is Wolozin  : ok:

No, i MEANT simpson, person Mrs Wolozin, masseuse of her state, called for advice and i did mean that Simpson and the time she took before calling back might have been a little too long for someone who was slipping dangerously towards death.

Who the hell is Simpson ?  ??? It is said that the only person  Wolozin called was M-K Olsen.

here we go, a never to be solved conspiracy theory :(

I had heard he had already been dead awhile but maybe i missed something where that changed.

She owned the property Heath died in

I'm assuming they were "involved."  (Mary Kate and Heath)

I'd have to agree with the consensus here and say it was panic.  I thought I heard them say she was first on his cellphone number list or whatever.  In the moment I'm sure she just called the person he was involved with.

If like you said D, there was something weird going on, toxicology reports will show anything and everything in his system at the time of death. 

yah, sorry, i keep mistaking simpson girl and olsen ones, well, they are both kind of anonymous in france you know ?

Easy.  She, when paired with her sister, has wonder twin powers! 

Rumor 1000 is that they were pals and enjoyed the party time with each other?  Especially w/i the last couple of months.  Some were saying he looked kind of disheveled and out of sorts the last couple of weeks?  Who knows?  It's too bad it happened but what's done is done.

What if some kind of pill is in his system that wasn't found in his room?


Just throwing it out there that maybe there was something there that could've looked very bad on Mary Olsen and the Masseusse called her to see what she wanted to do with whatever said item...............


Maybe Mary Kate loaned him a bottle of Xanax or something?

Just sayin, It looks weird.

One time cause she owns the property.......... Yeah I can see that maybe.

But 3 fuckin times?


Masseusse: Mary Kate, I am at Heath's and he is dead, what should I do??????

Mary: Holy shit, Go look here, here and here and get this bottle of this or that and put it in your purse

Masseusse: Ok, Let me go find it

Mary: Call me back once u find this

Masseusse: Ok


Hang up


2nd call:

I found a bottle of this and this

Mary: Ok great just keep it quite and please don't let anyone know u found it and I'll give u a huge tip next time.

Masseusse: Awesome!


2nd call ends


Masseusse gets lookin around further and finds something or starts getting nervous and calls back


I dont know Mary, Im scared the police are gonna find out that I tampered with evidence, I dont know if I should do this

Mary: U have to do this or I am ruined!!!!!!!!!!!


Blah blah blah blah blah


call ends


4th call

Ok Mary, Police have left, they didn't ask any hard questions, didnt search me or anything so u are in the clear

Mary: Awesome, Here is John Stamos' number, he will take u out and pleasure u tonight




Anyhow, The whole incident is fishy.

^ Really enjoying call #4.   :rofl:

If he was already dead, calling the paramedics/cops/whatever won't bring them back to life, anyway.

Funny as hell !!!!! :rofl:   

Personally I think this is the work of the Pentavirate.  You can never trust that damn Colonel Sanders. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee beady eyes, and that smug look on his face. "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"

Pretty sure, but since I don't follow celb bullshit, er I mean gossip, that this rumour was proven to be false.

He was dead already, nothing could save him.

Thats not what I am saying about the phone calls.

Im saying calling Olsen once is maybe understandable.

but 4 times?

Im just sayin maybe something at the scene that if found by the cops would look really really bad on Olsen. Maybe she loaned him some prescription meds and the Masseusse pocketed that bottle before calling police.......


Kind of like if u were a drug dealer and someone OD'ed at your house. U would flush all your stash down the toilet before the cops got there.

The media is reporting she only connected on the last call.

Well if he was dead a while when she arrived at the house i.e no hope of saving him, what do you do?

If I was in the situation, I dont think I would be 100% sure what to do. I dont think I would call an ambulance first, because he is dead, there not going to bring him back.

I might call the cops, but then again if reports are true there was noboby else involved so no crime looked like it had been commited, so why call them.

In a panic I might call a friend of his to get advice on what to do.

Its hard to say exactly what I would do, you could understand her simply leaving and pretending that she had never been there, she would'nt be the first person to have done that in such a situation.

Its easy to become a suspect when you are the first to discover a body. She might have been trying to watch her back and get an alibi before calling the cops. Its hard to say.   

Because they called in private security to act as "cleaners".  Get the drugs out, clean the scene up, and try to preserve some of the guys dignity.

I suppose the issue is...it wasn't like finding John Belushi dead, cold, and blue.  Ledger was, literally, still warm and pink.  There's no telling if he was "reviveable" when he was found, but the delay certainly doesn't help, you know?.

Why Mary Kate?  Because the former full house cutie was banging the fucking stuffing out of Ledger....and pretty much everyone close to them knew it.  So the Masseuse called her to get some help.  Those providing services to the stars know who butters their bread, and know how to be discreet, even in really odd, crappy, or stressful situations.  That's what the Masseuse did.