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Title: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: evergreen_layne on January 18, 2008, 10:46:11 AM http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=88725 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=88725)
:love: :beer: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 10:50:17 AM I posted this in another thread. Here's what Duff thinks:
“I’m lucky I suppose,” said McKagan “my passion is also my living. This band has allowed all of us who might have been relegated to ‘you were in a good band but it’s over now’ file to show that we are still musically viable.” Despite having been a key member in what many consider to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time McKagan is still hesitant about what lies ahead. “I never try to plan out my future. I’ve learned from experience,” McKagan said “there are so many different lives going on within a band. Some people have to go back to a family and kids. I hope that we will make a third album I really do. But if we don’t at least I can say it was a good time.” Thursday, 17 January 2008 http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1 (http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1) /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Smoking Guns on January 18, 2008, 10:55:39 AM Maybe VR is better suited for a good studio album with few tour dates so they can be with their families more.
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 18, 2008, 10:59:07 AM I posted this in another thread. Here's what Duff thinks: ?I?m lucky I suppose,? said McKagan ?my passion is also my living. This band has allowed all of us who might have been relegated to ?you were in a good band but it?s over now? file to show that we are still musically viable.? Despite having been a key member in what many consider to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time McKagan is still hesitant about what lies ahead. ?I never try to plan out my future. I?ve learned from experience,? McKagan said ?there are so many different lives going on within a band. Some people have to go back to a family and kids. I hope that we will make a third album I really do. But if we don?t at least I can say it was a good time.? Thursday, 17 January 2008 http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1 (http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1) /jarmo my passion is also my living. , I read that and just thought about how much that could really suck for a person if it goes down wrong. Damn LOL. I see VR putting out a new record of course each band member always has a different agenda , I mean scott said libertad was going to be a certain type of record , duff said it would be grooving , each person see's it in their own way. I just hope Slash is right lol! :beer: Hopefully they'll stick to stuff in the contraband vein. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: LunsJail on January 18, 2008, 01:33:24 PM First off, I'm not one of these people constantly trying to catch Slash in a lie but.....since when did they tour for 2 1/2 years on Contraband. That would imply that they toured straight through until the end of 2006. I also wouldn't count on them working on the next album by April. I'd bet Scott will be doing some solo thing first.
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: lynn1961 on January 18, 2008, 01:39:48 PM They started promoting Contraband as early as March and April of 2004 (Duff and Slash), and some of the last shows for that tour were done in the fall of 2006. Do your math.
As for another album, starting in April. We'll see. Maybe they'll do another one. That would be good, but I think it will take awhile. I try not to listen to all the different speculation, because that's just what it is. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: LunsJail on January 18, 2008, 01:50:12 PM They started promoting Contraband as early as March and April of 2004 (Duff and Slash), and some of the last shows for that tour were done in the fall of 2006. Do your math. http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/velvet-revolver/ I did my math. They played a grand total of 5 dates in 2006 the last of which was in July. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 18, 2008, 02:25:15 PM "Maybe Japan is turning Communist"
OMG! I won?t even comment on this... :confused: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 02:51:51 PM "Maybe Japan is turning Communist" OMG! I won?t even comment on this... :confused: Please do go on..... :hihi: /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 18, 2008, 03:05:37 PM "Maybe Japan is turning Communist" OMG! I won´t even comment on this... :confused: Please do go on..... :hihi: /jarmo haha ok ok.... This comment just shows pure ignorance... unless you have real and proper knowledge of a country and its story, you should never, ever, make statements like this one... I find this quite offensive. Maybe that´s cos I´m studying politics and am giving this too much importance but this sure really got into my nerve. He was trying to make a joke I guess.... Please Slash, next time stick to what you know: music. Oh well, oh well... ::) Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: LunsJail on January 18, 2008, 04:08:35 PM "Maybe Japan is turning Communist" OMG! I won?t even comment on this... :confused: Please do go on..... :hihi: /jarmo haha ok ok.... This comment just shows pure ignorance... unless you have real and proper knowledge of a country and its story, you should never, ever, make statements like this one... I find this quite offensive. Maybe that?s cos I?m studying politics and am giving this too much importance but this sure really got into my nerve. He was trying to make a joke I guess.... Please Slash, next time stick to what you know: music. Oh well, oh well... ::) I don't think he meant it to be taken seriously. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 18, 2008, 04:10:54 PM "Maybe Japan is turning Communist" OMG! I won?t even comment on this... :confused: Please do go on..... :hihi: /jarmo haha ok ok.... This comment just shows pure ignorance... unless you have real and proper knowledge of a country and its story, you should never, ever, make statements like this one... I find this quite offensive. Maybe that?s cos I?m studying politics and am giving this too much importance but this sure really got into my nerve. He was trying to make a joke I guess.... Please Slash, next time stick to what you know: music. Oh well, oh well... ::) Wow.... your comment shows pure ignorance. I'm sorry but you really think that was meant to be taken literal it was a fuckin' analogy , :wow things are getting harsh here" :yup they must be turning communist." I've said that about my school countless times , guess I shouldn't say it. Jesus people really it was a poke at stuff get over it. Anyways a new VR album would be awesome , but this solo Slash project....hmmm that be sweet! Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 18, 2008, 04:55:43 PM Of course it was meant to be a joke. Of course it wasn?t made to be taken seriously. And of course I know that.
The thing is we have to be serious and cautious when we?re talking about a state, a country, being it a joke or not. It?s a serious matter. I?m sure that the japanese fans did found this joke really damn funny. Afterall they didn?t get the shows, but they got a very funny joke about their country. And I?m sure as well the high entities who are in control of the visas have also found this very funny. Afterall, this is a really mature way to handle this problem-making fun of the country in question. Diplomacy fellows, diplomacy... that?s what I?m talking about. Maybe I got this too personally but this is how I see it, and in no way can you, whoever you are behind that username, call my view "pure ignorance". In the very least, you might disagree with it. That?s all. ;) Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Jizzo on January 18, 2008, 06:09:34 PM making a new record would be best for the band and its families. Making a record is more time spent at home.
and honestly, new music always is good for the fans Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 06:10:56 PM making a new record would be best for the band and its families. Making a record is more time spent at home. and honestly, new music always is good for the fans Good way to forget about Libertad and get out of a recording contract too for an STP reunion. /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: GNRreunioneventually on January 18, 2008, 06:18:09 PM hopefully they can bounce back from libertad. Not that it was a bad album i can't say it is or isn't cuase really i haven't listened to it but i always hope for them to be in the lime light again as well as G'n'R.
That would be pretty fucking awesome if G'n'R and VR were both up for an award at the VMAs or Emmys or something. How its fun to dream :peace: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 18, 2008, 06:22:17 PM I think they should try and bring Izzy back in for some recording sessions.
Scott would probably never allow such a thing, so he'd definately need to be kicked to the curb : ok: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Bodhi on January 18, 2008, 06:27:55 PM "Maybe Japan is turning Communist" OMG! I won?t even comment on this... :confused: Please do go on..... :hihi: /jarmo haha ok ok.... This comment just shows pure ignorance... unless you have real and proper knowledge of a country and its story, you should never, ever, make statements like this one... I find this quite offensive. Maybe that?s cos I?m studying politics and am giving this too much importance but this sure really got into my nerve. He was trying to make a joke I guess.... Please Slash, next time stick to what you know: music. Oh well, oh well... ::) I don't think he meant it to be taken seriously. EXACTLY...who in their right mind would take this comment seriously??? Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 18, 2008, 06:31:18 PM I think they should try and bring Izzy back in for some recording sessions. Scott would probably never allow such a thing, so he'd definately need to be kicked to the curb : ok: I've always thought that , it be cool to see Slash and Izzy back but 2 downfalls 1. If they are getting the VR and GNR comparsion and such NOW just imagine how it would be with izzy in the band! That would be billed as 4/5 of GNR.... 2. They'd sound like too much of GNR , really SLASH and IZZY together....... EDIT: DAMN I didn't even think Slash Izzy AND Duff together , it would be WAYYYY too GNR sounding lol , I'd love to hear it but people would dog on it ALL the time , with reason too. Those 3 where the main backbone of the music , for the most part , i mean come on.... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Bodhi on January 18, 2008, 06:32:03 PM Well I hope they make a third record...because the last one really did suck...it has its moments...but Contraband was an amazing record...they should fire that producer...i believe they used the same one that STP used...Libertad was way too soft and vocally driven...i couldnt even hear the guitars in the mix...Contraband had ass kicking solos all over the place...If you have SLASH in the band...i would like to actually hear the guitars...but what do I know??
Either way I will be happy to get a third record out of this group...thats 2 more than I thought i was going to get back in 2003 when they first got together.... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 18, 2008, 06:35:11 PM Well I hope they make a third record...because the last one really did suck...it has its moments...but Contraband was an amazing record...they should fire that producer...i believe they used the same one that STP used...Libertad was way too soft and vocally driven...i couldnt even hear the guitars in the mix...Contraband had ass kicking solos all over the place...If you have SLASH in the band...i would like to actually hear the guitars...but what do I know?? Either way I will be happy to get a third record out of this group...thats 2 more than I thought i was going to get back in 2003 when they first got together.... Yea they went with the STP producer , eh bad choice. It didn't suck , I really liked it Last Fight , American Man , Just 16 , Gravedancer , good songs I enjoyed big time.I think it was good , but it was too soft especially for Slash , but i think they wanted to go for that. Contraband had awesome riff'age , if they can combine the both together good soft songs with hard rockin' vibes they'd be set. I think they can do it , especially now that they have gel'd as a band more. Their live shows are really good too.... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 18, 2008, 06:43:31 PM hope they write loads of material and tries to get rick rubin again.. but yeah that won't happen
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Smoking Guns on January 18, 2008, 06:44:29 PM making a new record would be best for the band and its families. Making a record is more time spent at home. and honestly, new music always is good for the fans Good way to forget about Libertad and get out of a recording contract too for an STP reunion. /jarmo Agreed to that! I hope 3rd is the charm though! Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: SpiritDave on January 18, 2008, 06:50:50 PM making a new record would be best for the band and its families. Making a record is more time spent at home. and honestly, new music always is good for the fans Good way to forget about Libertad and get out of a recording contract too for an STP reunion. /jarmo VR are much better for me than STP. I was never an STP fan ... I prefer VR by far. Probably the flow of the music ... as it's much more 'rock' than STP. Anyways ... why would they want to forget about a great album? I suspect none of the members of VR share your opinion of the band ... you tend to forget that :hihi: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 18, 2008, 06:54:28 PM why would they want to forget about a great album? probably because it was kind of a commercial flop : ok: that's my guess Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: D on January 18, 2008, 06:57:37 PM When youre 40, Famous and a multi millionaire
Seriously, How hard could u want to work? most bands lose their way cause they lose their inspiration once they move out of the gutter. Bring on the reunions! Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 18, 2008, 07:00:21 PM Hopefully they will use a different producer this time around. With the exception of a handful of songs their last album sounded like a bunch of throwaway STP tracks with Slash solos Pro Tooled in. But they probably will keep BOB. I'm not convinced these guys really care about making the best music they're capable of. They took it as an insult that Rick Rubin told them to write more songs, but he was right. Shit a lot of the rap songs Rubin's produced are heavier than anything on Libertad. But they didn't want to hear it. Oh well. But it just seems like these guys would rather rest on their laurels and do what comes easy than really push themselves, like D said it happens to most bands/musicians though
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 18, 2008, 07:09:35 PM why would they want to forget about a great album? probably because it was kind of a commercial flop : ok: that's my guess Yea beacuse Artistic gratification means nothing..... But well put D! Shit a lot of the rap songs Rubin's produced are heavier than anything on Libertad. You are aware that maybe they wanted it to be kept they way it was? I'm sure they are proud of their record. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 07:23:01 PM Anyways ... why would they want to forget about a great album? If they're already stopping promoting it, seems like they want to move on? /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 18, 2008, 07:26:47 PM Anyways ... why would they want to forget about a great album? If they're already stopping promoting it, seems like they want to move on? /jarmo They are still touring off it?........ Besides since when did stop of promotion mean forgetting about it. I'm sure zeppelin didn't forget about IV , metallica didn't forget bout Justice, hell Guns didn't forget about AFD? Moving on and forgetting are very different things. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 18, 2008, 07:32:47 PM why would they want to forget about a great album? probably because it was kind of a commercial flop : ok: that's my guess Yea beacuse Artistic gratification means nothing..... But well put D! Shit a lot of the rap songs Rubin's produced are heavier than anything on Libertad. You are aware that maybe they wanted it to be kept they way it was? I'm sure they are proud of their record. I'm sure they're proud of their record. That doesn't mean that it was a good album, though some think it was and I'm sure VR thought it was. But judging from the sales figures they obviously didn't strike a chord with their target audience if only 10% as many people bought it as bought their previous album that came out just 3 years prior. They always talk about how they're a bad ass rock band and a "real" rock band but this was a soft, overly commercial effort and obviously a lot of people saw through the charade. They can make whatever type of music they want but there's no need to insult the fans intelligence. It seems like they thought that if they said it's bad ass, real, balls to the wall rock then it actually is. People didn't buy what they were selling Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 18, 2008, 07:40:47 PM why would they want to forget about a great album? probably because it was kind of a commercial flop : ok: that's my guess Yea beacuse Artistic gratification means nothing..... But well put D! Shit a lot of the rap songs Rubin's produced are heavier than anything on Libertad. You are aware that maybe they wanted it to be kept they way it was? I'm sure they are proud of their record. I'm sure they're proud of their record. That doesn't mean that it was a good album, though some think it was and I'm sure VR thought it was. But judging from the sales figures they obviously didn't strike a chord with their target audience if only 10% as many people bought it as bought their previous album that came out just 3 years prior. They always talk about how they're a bad ass rock band and a "real" rock band but this was a soft, overly commercial effort and obviously a lot of people saw through the charade. They can make whatever type of music they want but there's no need to insult the fans intelligence. It seems like they thought that if they said it's bad ass, real, balls to the wall rock then it actually is. People didn't buy what they were selling I think the only reason most people didn't buy it was because it was softer , but I dug it. Since when can't "real" rock bands do a soft record. It was overly commercial , I give that credit to the producer was over produced for anything involving Slash and Co. People didn't buy it , but then again what was the top selling record of the year.... kanye west? Good music doesn't always sell. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 08:08:34 PM They are still touring off it?........ Besides since when did stop of promotion mean forgetting about it. I'm sure zeppelin didn't forget about IV , metallica didn't forget bout Justice, hell Guns didn't forget about AFD? Moving on and forgetting are very different things. Oh right. Exactly what I meant. ::) I'm not gonna spell out what I meant because most people understand what I meant by the comment that VR seem to want to forget about Libertad and focus on the next album if they decide to end the Libertad world tour in April. /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ali on January 18, 2008, 08:30:15 PM In all fairness, I wouldn't use a lack of sales to be an indicator of a rock album's quality in the current climate of the music industry.
People just don't buy CDs anywhere near as much as they used to, so the fact that Libertad didn't sell as well as hoped doesn't make it necessarily a bad record. Ali Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Wheres Izzy on January 18, 2008, 09:19:14 PM I think they should try and bring Izzy back in for some recording sessions. Scott would probably never allow such a thing, so he'd definately need to be kicked to the curb : ok: I've always thought that , it be cool to see Slash and Izzy back but 2 downfalls 1. If they are getting the VR and GNR comparsion and such NOW just imagine how it would be with izzy in the band! That would be billed as 4/5 of GNR.... 2. They'd sound like too much of GNR , really SLASH and IZZY together....... EDIT: DAMN I didn't even think Slash Izzy AND Duff together , it would be WAYYYY too GNR sounding lol , I'd love to hear it but people would dog on it ALL the time , with reason too. Those 3 where the main backbone of the music , for the most part , i mean come on.... I'm really hoping Izzy makes it on to this solo album Slash has been mentioning he plans on doing. That would be amazing to get to hear them together on new material. I am not thinking it's too likely though. I think Slash might be building his rock fans up for a pretty big let down with the solo album talk cause I think it'll end up being like a Santana record with nothing but a bunch of pop stars and top 40 people. As much as it pains me to say, someone from american idol is probably more likely to be on there than Izzy lol Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 18, 2008, 09:22:23 PM I prefer VR by far. Probably the flow of the music ... as it's much more 'rock' than STP. :rofl: Uh, STP's entire catalogue "rocks" harder than anything I've heard from VR. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 18, 2008, 10:17:17 PM In all fairness, I wouldn't use a lack of sales to be an indicator of a rock album's quality in the current climate of the music industry. People just don't buy CDs anywhere near as much as they used to, so the fact that Libertad didn't sell as well as hoped doesn't make it necessarily a bad record. Ali While I definitely agree that sales don't = quality, the sales figures in this case, given that VR is filled with big stars and had a hit record not too long ago, the sales figures are at least somewhat indicative of the general public's reaction. I know that sales are declining significantly every year, but going from 2,000,000 sold in 2004 to 220,000-240,000 sold in 2007 can't be explained away by record industry woes. Libertad has been out for what 6 or 7 months now and still hasn't sold as many copies as Contraband did in its first week, which is pretty staggering. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: SpiritDave on January 18, 2008, 10:43:39 PM I prefer VR by far. Probably the flow of the music ... as it's much more 'rock' than STP. :rofl: Uh, STP's entire catalogue "rocks" harder than anything I've heard from VR. I didn't mean what you think I meant. I like the sound and style of the VR stuff WAY more than the STP stuff. I'm sorry but STP are fucking overrated. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: D on January 18, 2008, 10:48:16 PM I like Libertad but the reason it didnt sell is simple.
No GREAT SONGS on Contraband u had SLither and FTP which were GREAT SONGS, YGNR live made people go out and buy the album and other great songs like STB, DIFTK etc. Libertad kind of flatlines. There really is no arch. Every song is good but nothing is really great so the whole album is kind of on one plain and it never goes up. If u asked 20 people their fav song on Libertad, I guarantee no song would get an overwhelming amount of votes. CB u would have overwhelming numbers for Slither and FTP. Songs that make people buy albums and want to see u live. CB was different. It started fuckin awesome with STB then right into DIFTK. an awesome back to back punch. it then settled down and segued into FTP and then started kicking ass again with Headspace, Superhuman Set me Free, Slither YGNR CB had a great arch to it. U had good songs but 3 or 4 really Great songs and thats what sells albums. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 18, 2008, 11:04:16 PM I like Libertad but the reason it didnt sell is simple. No GREAT SONGS on Contraband u had SLither and FTP which were GREAT SONGS, YGNR live made people go out and buy the album and other great songs like STB, DIFTK etc. Libertad kind of flatlines. There really is no arch. Every song is good but nothing is really great so the whole album is kind of on one plain and it never goes up. If u asked 20 people their fav song on Libertad, I guarantee no song would get an overwhelming amount of votes. CB u would have overwhelming numbers for Slither and FTP. Songs that make people buy albums and want to see u live. CB was different. It started fuckin awesome with STB then right into DIFTK. an awesome back to back punch. it then settled down and segued into FTP and then started kicking ass again with Headspace, Superhuman Set me Free, Slither YGNR CB had a great arch to it. U had good songs but 3 or 4 really Great songs and thats what sells albums. I agree with what you said about Contraband, and I'd just add that Contraband's heaviness is what appealed to GnR fans who bought the album because of the former Gunners. I think the significantly lighter and poppier vibe of Libertad as well as the lack of big, crunchy guitars probably turned off a significant number of the people who were into VR because of GnR Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: SpiritDave on January 18, 2008, 11:06:10 PM D, I absolutely disagree...
Contraband succeeded not for it's songs (which were great but not as good, in my opinion overall than the Libertad ones) ... but because it was the new Supergroup. I love both albums, but the record buying public is full of morons ... they bought Contraband out of curiosity, and then RCA didn't promote the second album enough and Libertad hasn't sold as many. That said ... I bet they covered all their expenses and made profit on it ... Shame about it all coz regardless of what anyone says, both albums are great rock albums. They're no Appetite ... but what is? Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: metallex78 on January 19, 2008, 12:29:22 AM Can't say I'm looking forward to a new VR album all that much.
Libertad just sounds so uninspired throughout most of it, and I hate the guitar tones too. Slash hasn't got nearly enough crunch, and Dave's guitar just sounds like fart noises. If they continue in that vein, I'll be disappointed again. Bring on Slash's solo album I say! : ok: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: lynn1961 on January 19, 2008, 12:35:54 AM They started promoting Contraband as early as March and April of 2004 (Duff and Slash), and some of the last shows for that tour were done in the fall of 2006. Do your math. http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/velvet-revolver/ I did my math. They played a grand total of 5 dates in 2006 the last of which was in July. Ok. Please accept my apologies. I went overboard on that one. I see where they started in March & April of 2004. 2005 was pretty much January through September, with July off, and 3 dates in December. 2006, I counted 9 shows, with the last being in October . So I guess that doesn't quite make a FULL 2-1/2 yrs. Then, they started up, again, in April of 2007. Anyway, it doesn't matter because that's not what this thread is about. I just wanted to apologize for my snide remark. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: McDuff on January 19, 2008, 12:38:21 AM I prefer VR by far. Probably the flow of the music ... as it's much more 'rock' than STP. :rofl: Uh, STP's entire catalogue "rocks" harder than anything I've heard from VR. I think you need to get your hearing checked :smoking: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: D on January 19, 2008, 12:51:37 AM Id love to see the Vegas odds
what first Chinese Democracy or the Third VR album. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: lynn1961 on January 19, 2008, 01:01:23 AM Id love to see the Vegas odds what first Chinese Democracy or the Third VR album. Not going to say a word here. Nothing. No. Not going to say a word. :-X Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on January 19, 2008, 01:24:50 AM I prefer VR by far. Probably the flow of the music ... as it's much more 'rock' than STP. :rofl: Uh, STP's entire catalogue "rocks" harder than anything I've heard from VR. I think you need to get your hearing checked :smoking: LOL CITY! :hihi: Dead N' Bloated and Trippin' On a Hole in a Paper Heart own any song VR has made. Especially SBQM. :rofl: (Sorry VR fans, couldn't pass that one up, I'll go on staying out of this section. :peace:) Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 19, 2008, 01:26:16 AM I prefer VR by far. Probably the flow of the music ... as it's much more 'rock' than STP. :rofl: Uh, STP's entire catalogue "rocks" harder than anything I've heard from VR. I think you need to get your hearing checked :smoking: You're right, they just haven't been the same since I heard She Builds Quick Machines :-X Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 19, 2008, 01:26:32 AM I prefer VR by far. Probably the flow of the music ... as it's much more 'rock' than STP. :rofl: Uh, STP's entire catalogue "rocks" harder than anything I've heard from VR. I think you need to get your hearing checked :smoking: LOL CITY! :hihi: Dead N' Bloated and Trippin' On a Hole in a Paper Heart own any song VR has made. Especially SBQM. :rofl: (Sorry VR fans, couldn't pass that one up, I'll go on staying out of this section. :peace:) Don't you mean their Vertigo cover? :smoking: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 19, 2008, 11:10:01 AM Contraband succeeded not for it's songs but because it was the new Supergroup. We agree on something. :hihi: The "three ex-Gunners together" hype worked really well for them the first time. The second time they should've had a song to back up all the hype. /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Alan on January 19, 2008, 11:30:01 AM STP reunion. /jarmo venues are already on hold according to billy morrison on camp freddy radio a couple of weeks ago. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 19, 2008, 11:36:08 AM STP reunion. /jarmo venues are already on hold according to billy morrison on camp freddy radio a couple of weeks ago. For that "long awaited" STP reunion? I had no idea.... /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Fingers on January 19, 2008, 11:44:20 AM The DeLeo brothers can only hope
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Alan on January 19, 2008, 11:56:31 AM STP reunion. /jarmo venues are already on hold according to billy morrison on camp freddy radio a couple of weeks ago. For that "long awaited" STP reunion? I had no idea.... /jarmo you should listen to cfr more :P it's worth it just for the stories about navarro. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Fingers on January 19, 2008, 12:09:31 PM How long in advance would you put an arena on hold for? They are right now booked until April 1st, although here in Cleveland Megadeth just announced a May outdoor show, so I'm sure the outdoor sheds/arenas are starting to plan concerts
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: mrlee on January 19, 2008, 12:18:58 PM lets hope they learn to actually rock again instead of making a pussyified album.
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 19, 2008, 12:24:45 PM lets hope they learn to actually rock again instead of making a pussyified album. I'll be the first to say songs off libertad didn't really have the same impact as Contraband. But I don't understand why people have a problem with a soft record? I am assuming thats what you meant by pussyified album.. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: D on January 19, 2008, 06:29:12 PM I think its funny Jarmo is championing that STP reunion when in reality its the last thing he should want.
If VR break up, I guarantee we see a GNR reunion within 5 years. The managers and record labels will see to it. If Motley Crue can get back together after all their shit, GNR definitely could and do a reunion tour. Im not sayin they'd make a new album together, but they could tour using seperate buses and play a huge cash grab. Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame is coming up.............. Just saying............ Kiss inviting Ace and Peter to their MTV Unplugged caused a Kiss reunion, something we thought we'd never see. So jarmo and New GNR fans should be supporting VR and hoping they never break up. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 19, 2008, 07:11:20 PM If VR break up, I guarantee we see a GNR reunion within 5 years. The managers and record labels will see to it. If Motley Crue can get back together after all their shit, GNR definitely could and do a reunion tour. Im not sayin they'd make a new album together, but they could tour using seperate buses and play a huge cash grab. Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame is coming up.............. Just saying............ Kiss inviting Ace and Peter to their MTV Unplugged caused a Kiss reunion, something we thought we'd never see. So jarmo and New GNR fans should be supporting VR and hoping they never break up. man i'm marking your words so that you can stand with the shame when this reunion don't happen (or so that i can, if it does happen :hihi:) within 5 years of VR breaking up (if that happens) i don't know the reasons to why MC broke up or how long their break up was, but i know that vince don't have the kind of integrity that axl does (because i'm sure it's axl that's against a reunion) I'm also sure that KISS reunited because gene and paul love their dollars : ok: I don't think axl is sharing their hunger for wealth with all this said i'm not saying i'm against a "reunion" or saying that it'll never happen, it might, just not so soon (with all stuff going on with GNR/CD and VR).. i'm not sitting around wishing or waiting for it or want it, if it happens it happens as long as axl is the lead singer and he's enjoying it, i'm enjoying it :hihi: ....sooo a new VR album might come up? cool, i hope it's harder and more ballsy then libertad was Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 19, 2008, 07:53:14 PM I think its funny Jarmo is championing that STP reunion when in reality its the last thing he should want. Couldn't care less about an STP reunion. It's just the inevitable next step for Weiland. I wouldn't be surprised if the promoters are throwing money at them unlike what seems to be happening with VR. /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Fingers on January 19, 2008, 08:36:03 PM I think its funny Jarmo is championing that STP reunion when in reality its the last thing he should want. If VR break up, I guarantee we see a GNR reunion within 5 years. The managers and record labels will see to it. If Motley Crue can get back together after all their shit, GNR definitely could and do a reunion tour. Im not sayin they'd make a new album together, but they could tour using seperate buses and play a huge cash grab. Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame is coming up.............. Just saying............ Kiss inviting Ace and Peter to their MTV Unplugged caused a Kiss reunion, something we thought we'd never see. So jarmo and New GNR fans should be supporting VR and hoping they never break up. Reunion tours of any kind are huge these days-see Van Halen for example-there will be money for an STP reunion, I could only imagine what would be offered for an original GNR reunion Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Smoking Guns on January 20, 2008, 12:10:16 AM I think its funny Jarmo is championing that STP reunion when in reality its the last thing he should want. Couldn't care less about an STP reunion. It's just the inevitable next step for Weiland. I wouldn't be surprised if the promoters are throwing money at them unlike what seems to be happening with VR. /jarmo Jarmo, what year did promoters give up on trying to get a GNR reunion together? 2001 maybe? I know you used to always hear about it, just wondered if rumor or if anything actually was ever offered or presented... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 20, 2008, 02:03:45 PM STP reunion in the coming months...according to Scott. :o
the legendary Patti LaBelle, who was kind enough to invite this blogger on stage to sing backup on the disco classic Lady Marmalade, was in stellar voice, as was Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver rocker Scott Weiland, who told us that we should be on the lookout for an STP reunion in the coming months. http://blogs.herald.com/scene_in_the_tropics/2008/01/baypoint-gala-r.html Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Smoking Guns on January 20, 2008, 03:06:42 PM Uh oh!
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ali on January 20, 2008, 03:24:03 PM Wow, that is huge news if true.
How can there be an STP reunion anytime soon if VR is going to work on a new album in April? Ali Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 20, 2008, 04:39:40 PM Wow, that is huge news if true. How can there be an STP reunion anytime soon if VR is going to work on a new album in April? Ali That's Slash's plan. Scott is talking about an STP reunion and Duff isn't even sure if they'll make another VR album.... /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 20, 2008, 05:48:20 PM STP reunion in the upcoming months? Omg... I?m totally lost now... ???
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 20, 2008, 06:17:15 PM A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up. The reason? Because the only reason it would happen for money. Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened. If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't. He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen. Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that. He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway. That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it. People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 20, 2008, 07:12:18 PM A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up. The reason? Because the only reason it would happen for money. Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened. If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't. He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen. Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that. He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway. That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it. People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is Question , Since when are you Axl's inner conscious? Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 20, 2008, 07:26:37 PM A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up. The reason? Because the only reason it would happen for money. Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened. If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't. He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen. Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that. He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway. That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it. People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is what does that have to do with the topic? Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 20, 2008, 07:42:16 PM A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up. The reason? Because the only reason it would happen for money. Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened. If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't. He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen. Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that. He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway. That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it. People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is what does that have to do with the topic? Ask the VR fan who brought it up: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=50469.msg1034867#msg1034867 : ok: /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Fingers on January 20, 2008, 08:20:03 PM Hey, if it ends tomorrow, I'll still be happy with what they did-I'm sure a lot of people thought Slash and Duff could do nothing after GNR
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: SpiritDave on January 20, 2008, 08:36:15 PM The second time they should've had a song to back up all the hype. They did. Libertad has plenty of great tunes. It's just been promoted badly. Like a lot of rock music today. Shame. I listen to the album on a very regular basis. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 20, 2008, 08:45:05 PM A GnR reunion of the old lineup won't happen regardless of whether or not VR breaks up. The reason? Because the only reason it would happen for money. Promoters have already offered gobs of money and it hasn't happened. If Axl wanted to do it, he could and would make it happen but he doesn't. He doesn't need the money and doesn't have any interest in making it happen. Slash and Duff have both made it known they'd be up for it but Axl has never shown a glimmer of interest in it and I don't see anything that would change that. He doesn't need the money and would not do it just for the money anyway. That is what some people don't seem to understand, it's not about the money for him and a reunion would only happen due to monetary desires, not for the music or the enjoyment of it. People point to other bands that have done it, but I don't think the members of any of those bands are as principled as Axl is Question , Since when are you Axl's inner conscious? It's called using common sense based on previous decisions and behavior of all involved to project what will happen. We know that Slash and Duff have both repeatedly said they'd be up for it. We know for a fact that promoters have already offered a huge amount of money to try to make it happen. We know for a fact that Axl has never given even the slightest indication that he's interested in a "reunion". None of his behavior has indicated that his goal is to milk the GnR name just for the sake of making as much money as possible. There's absolutely no reason to believe based on his actions that he is interested in doing a reunion with the old lineup. If he was, it would be a money-driven decision and it would've happened a long time ago. Since there's absolutely no logical reason to believe that the old lineup could ever co-exist and make music together again given their vastly different views on the creative process not to mention all of the bad blood, that means the only logical motivation for a reunion would be if someone threw a ridiculous amount of money at them for a tour, which has already happened and which didn't even come close to resulting in a reunion. I don't claim to know what drives Axl but based on common sense you can deduce that there are a lot of things aside from money that drive him. My personal opinion just based on what little I know about Axl and what I can deduce from his previous actions is that he would prefer to remain out of the public eye entirely than do a cash-grab reunion tour. There is a lot of pride and personal interest involved that goes beyond money here. Considering Axl is already in the driver's seat and has proven he can tour successfully with the current GnR lineup just makes the notion of a cash-grab reunion that much more absurd Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 20, 2008, 09:42:31 PM The second time they should've had a song to back up all the hype. They did. Libertad has plenty of great tunes. It's just been promoted badly. Like a lot of rock music today. I agree with you. I think it?s a better album than Contraband... sure deserved more hype and sellings.... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 21, 2008, 12:50:51 PM The Miami Herald comment is now on Stone Temple Pilot's Wikipedia page...it must be true. ;D
On January 20, 2008, a Miami Herald blog reported that Scott said that the public "should be on the lookout for an STP reunion in the coming months." Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 21, 2008, 01:59:57 PM The second time they should've had a song to back up all the hype. They did. Libertad has plenty of great tunes. It's just been promoted badly. Like a lot of rock music today. I agree with you. I think it?s a better album than Contraband... sure deserved more hype and sellings.... it don't deserve more hype, scott hyped it enough when he compared it to classic RS records and the other members said stuff about it too :hihi: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: don_vercetti on January 21, 2008, 04:41:20 PM I like Libertad but the reason it didnt sell is simple. No GREAT SONGS on Contraband u had SLither and FTP which were GREAT SONGS, YGNR live made people go out and buy the album and other great songs like STB, DIFTK etc. Libertad kind of flatlines. There really is no arch. Every song is good but nothing is really great so the whole album is kind of on one plain and it never goes up. If u asked 20 people their fav song on Libertad, I guarantee no song would get an overwhelming amount of votes. CB u would have overwhelming numbers for Slither and FTP. Songs that make people buy albums and want to see u live. CB was different. It started fuckin awesome with STB then right into DIFTK. an awesome back to back punch. it then settled down and segued into FTP and then started kicking ass again with Headspace, Superhuman Set me Free, Slither YGNR CB had a great arch to it. U had good songs but 3 or 4 really Great songs and thats what sells albums. I agree with what you said about Contraband, and I'd just add that Contraband's heaviness is what appealed to GnR fans who bought the album because of the former Gunners. I think the significantly lighter and poppier vibe of Libertad as well as the lack of big, crunchy guitars probably turned off a significant number of the people who were into VR because of GnR Word. That's pretty much what I have against libertad. Just didn't strike a chord + had no really great songs. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 21, 2008, 04:44:57 PM I like Libertad but the reason it didnt sell is simple. No GREAT SONGS on Contraband u had SLither and FTP which were GREAT SONGS, YGNR live made people go out and buy the album and other great songs like STB, DIFTK etc. Libertad kind of flatlines. There really is no arch. Every song is good but nothing is really great so the whole album is kind of on one plain and it never goes up. If u asked 20 people their fav song on Libertad, I guarantee no song would get an overwhelming amount of votes. CB u would have overwhelming numbers for Slither and FTP. Songs that make people buy albums and want to see u live. CB was different. It started fuckin awesome with STB then right into DIFTK. an awesome back to back punch. it then settled down and segued into FTP and then started kicking ass again with Headspace, Superhuman Set me Free, Slither YGNR CB had a great arch to it. U had good songs but 3 or 4 really Great songs and thats what sells albums. I agree with what you said about Contraband, and I'd just add that Contraband's heaviness is what appealed to GnR fans who bought the album because of the former Gunners. I think the significantly lighter and poppier vibe of Libertad as well as the lack of big, crunchy guitars probably turned off a significant number of the people who were into VR because of GnR Word. That's pretty much what I have against libertad. Just didn't strike a chord + had no really great songs. Agree'd but then again Guns had songs like estranged and november rain , patience.... Soft isn't bad. I think Libertad had some great songs , I think Last Fight was really good , American Man. It was their single choices that got them screwed , SBQW was probably my least favorite followed by GOTD , which ironically happened to be the 1st AND 2nd singles lmao. :hihi: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: GeraldFord on January 22, 2008, 03:40:57 AM Well,
Buckcherry scored it big with albums #1 and 3. STP should wait until the 00s are over before they try to ride a wave of 90s nostelgia...or maybe they could just reform and open up for the Spice Girls.... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: D on January 22, 2008, 04:16:44 AM After Chinese Democracy comes out
If it bombs, we will see a reunion Axl has TONS OF INTEGRITY, no doubt about it. I don't think it hurts his integrity by getting back with the old members, especially when u were one of the greatest bands in music history. Axl is too great of a frontman and musician for his legacy to be tainted as a guy who broke up one of the greatest bands in music history *Granted this is perceived, Im not saying Axl broke up the band cause we know the guys quit BUT in the media it is looked at like he pretty much ran them off* and the guy who took 10 years to release an album when u get older u start reflecting and thinking of your life and how things happened and I think all the members are way more mature now and they could find some common ground to get a long and be a band again. We will see it one day I believe. There is a thread on the Bad Obsession and its true What band hasnt gotten back together? A band has big as GNR will. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: JimBobTTD on January 22, 2008, 04:28:24 AM Chinese Democracy won't bomb. Everyone and their dog is going to buy that album, regardless of whether it is good or not. People will go out and buy it before hearing it.
If CD is followed quickly, then that album will bomb. The new tracks that have been played live are weak, in my opinion, and I don't think the average GNR fan (not the rabid GNR fan we have on this board) will be impressed. Personally, I hope that there is no reunion. I don't think the band can get their act together to pull off something great. With AFD, GNR was the best thing in the world. Afterwards, they were simply a very great band. Like some other bands, they were best in the beginning and, while still good, became less and less impressive with each album released (cf Nirvana, Mudhoney, Buffalo Tom, Black Label Society, and, some might argue, Velvet Revolver). Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 22, 2008, 11:17:57 AM Once again Slash talks about the band's recording plans: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003699672
I guess they are in a hurry if Scott is gonna be busy with STP.... /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: don_vercetti on January 22, 2008, 11:25:24 AM Quote It'll be coming -- probably the next thing I do after the next Velvet Revolver record. But if anything delays the Velvet record, I would turn around and do that (solo album) then." So if Scott does leave for an STP reunion, then Slash will definetely get this solo album underway. To be honest, all I can say really is Scott, please go and do it! It will leave Slash with what amounts to an extended, paid for, audition session to find himself a decent singer to work with. Sounds pretty ideal to me. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 22, 2008, 11:33:13 AM Quote Slash still wants to move forward on a solo album, which he says will feature a roster of guest vocalist. "The only progress is I'm starting to put it together as to how I'm gonna do it and who I'm gonna do it with," he says. "It's actually really in the back of my mind, but I haven't gotten the wheels in motion to get it produced. It'll be coming -- probably the next thing I do after the next Velvet Revolver record. But if anything delays the Velvet record, I would turn around and do that (solo album) then." solo album sounds cool, does he mean that he'll get different singers or one?.. hope he get different people, but not nickelback singer or other supermainstream rock artists :hihi: it would be cool if he got juliette lewis, some up and coming and some real classic lead singers, he have probably screwed it with josh todd though Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Thorned Rose on January 22, 2008, 12:11:46 PM Hmmm... well. Sounds good. I wouldn't mind seeing a STP reunion. I would like to get one more album from these guys first though.
Contrabans was awesome, Libertad is dissapointing to me a little. It's not bad, but I just don't get into it as much. I don't like concept albums. I think it was a concept album wasn't it? Well I would really love to see one more album, then I would be happy with them breaking up... and a STP reunion or whatever. Slash solo thing? That sounds cool... if it has some quality songwriting. THe last Snakepit record kinda sucked. Peace Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Wheres Izzy on January 22, 2008, 12:22:58 PM Maybe Scott and Slash are on the same page and we'll have the same situation as audioslave. 3rd album comes out, no tour, STP reunion.
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ali on January 22, 2008, 12:25:55 PM Maybe Scott and Slash are on the same page and we'll have the same situation as audioslave. 3rd album comes out, no tour, STP reunion. That would be unfortunate. I think if that situation were planned ahead of time it may work against the record and its quality. I think the mindset towards the record would change and be detrimental to its quality. Ali Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ppbebe on January 22, 2008, 12:29:52 PM I think the mindset towards the record would change and be detrimental to its quality. Ali like their 2nd one? Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ali on January 22, 2008, 12:45:03 PM I think the mindset towards the record would change and be detrimental to its quality. Ali like their 2nd one? Well, I don't know what their mindset was towards Libertad. But, what I'm saying is if they know, or more precisely, suspect, that they are not going to tour behind a record, that will cut into some of the motivation towards making it great because they won't have to wonder whether or not the material would work live. Ali Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ppbebe on January 22, 2008, 12:55:08 PM But, what I'm saying is if they know, or more precisely, suspect, that they are not going to tour behind a record, that will cut into some of the motivation towards making it great because they won't have to wonder whether or not the material would work live. I hear Beatles didn't tour behind their latter albums. Ali Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: LunsJail on January 22, 2008, 01:29:06 PM I'm not sure a really rushed album is what VR needs right now. Plus these guys never seem to be on the same page about their plans. Last time Scott was talking about a concept album which no one else in the band seemed to be aware of.
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Ali on January 22, 2008, 01:30:25 PM But, what I'm saying is if they know, or more precisely, suspect, that they are not going to tour behind a record, that will cut into some of the motivation towards making it great because they won't have to wonder whether or not the material would work live. I hear Beatles didn't tour behind their latter albums. Ali I hear ya, I'm just saying if you know you are not going to tour behind a record, or suspect that, along with knowing or suspecting that it may be your swan song as a band, then it has to have an effect of your motivation and mindset towards the record. Ali Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: lakersaregreat on January 22, 2008, 01:57:57 PM After Chinese Democracy comes out If it bombs, we will see a reunion Axl has TONS OF INTEGRITY, no doubt about it. I don't think it hurts his integrity by getting back with the old members, especially when u were one of the greatest bands in music history. Axl is too great of a frontman and musician for his legacy to be tainted as a guy who broke up one of the greatest bands in music history *Granted this is perceived, Im not saying Axl broke up the band cause we know the guys quit BUT in the media it is looked at like he pretty much ran them off* and the guy who took 10 years to release an album when u get older u start reflecting and thinking of your life and how things happened and I think all the members are way more mature now and they could find some common ground to get a long and be a band again. We will see it one day I believe. There is a thread on the Bad Obsession and its true What band hasnt gotten back together? A band has big as GNR will. Even if it doesnt do well, which it will, we will not see a reunion. The current reunions are purely for the money. Axl is not about the money. He's a true artist. The old was great, time to move on. The new is here to stay and its great. I thank the old guys for what they have done and I wish them all the best. The current lineup is fantastic and this is where we are and where we are going... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ppbebe on January 22, 2008, 02:12:11 PM basically, when did GNR break up? there have been some member changes but
GNR is alive and well unlike kiss motley crue red zeppelin etc. it won't break up. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Thorned Rose on January 22, 2008, 02:23:42 PM Hmmm... well. Sounds good. I wouldn't mind seeing a STP reunion. I would like to get one more album from these guys first though.
Contrabans was awesome, Libertad is dissapointing to me a little. It's not bad, but I just don't get into it as much. I don't like concept albums. I think it was a concept album wasn't it? Well I would really love to see one more album, then I would be happy with them breaking up... and a STP reunion or whatever. Slash solo thing? That sounds cool... if it has some quality songwriting. THe last Snakepit record kinda sucked. Peace Oh yeah... the current lineup is fantastic? lmao... ok Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 22, 2008, 02:29:12 PM sorry that i'm talking about axl but someone brought him up....
things is, if CD would bomb and there would be a reunion all the "haters" would say that it was axl who begged the old guys to comeback and all that kind of bull crap, i'd believe it would be the contrary.. if i were axl i would never try to get back with slash, since it ended the way it did, what if history would repeat itself.. it would be hard to build up GNR again Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: D on January 22, 2008, 04:41:10 PM I dont agree, I think its just grown men finally acting mature and realizing what a once in a lifetime chemistry and vibe they had and putting it to use before its too late.
I dont know if i want to see Slash do a Carlos Santana style solo album.......... I think those are kind of cheesy....... Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Jim Bob on January 22, 2008, 05:33:32 PM I dont agree, I think its just grown men finally acting mature and realizing what a once in a lifetime chemistry and vibe they had and putting it to use before its too late. I dont know if i want to see Slash do a Carlos Santana style solo album.......... I think those are kind of cheesy....... wouldn't be as cheezy as some lame ass reunion. besides, you can't reunite a band thats already together. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: OreGunsNRoses on January 22, 2008, 05:34:53 PM basically, when did GNR break up? there have been some member changes but come on, get real. 1 original member left. I wont say any more. ::)GNR is alive and well unlike kiss motley crue red zeppelin etc. it won't break up. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 06:14:36 PM I dont agree, I think its just grown men finally acting mature and realizing what a once in a lifetime chemistry and vibe they had and putting it to use before its too late. I dont know if i want to see Slash do a Carlos Santana style solo album.......... I think those are kind of cheesy....... wouldn't be as cheezy as some lame ass reunion. besides, you can't reunite a band thats already together. You know what he means , Kiss went through various line up changes but still people love the original. I think they are all too smart NOT to get back together , really as said before name ONE major rock band that HASN'T got back together. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Jim Bob on January 22, 2008, 06:40:26 PM fuck a stupid reunion. you people still going on about wanting a reunion are
A. Unrealistic B. need to get your head out of 1992 C. Disrespectful Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 22, 2008, 06:46:42 PM "For the fans to attempt to condemn me to relationships even only professional with any of these men is a prison sentence and something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'd say my parole is nearly over. I'm practically a free man and if you don't like it you'll have plenty of time to get used to the idea."
Axl, August 2002. /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 22, 2008, 07:03:44 PM Perfect quote, Jarmo.
Axl's happiness is what's most important at the end of the day, although it would appear some are too stunned to comprehend that. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 22, 2008, 07:20:55 PM I dont agree, I think its just grown men finally acting mature and realizing what a once in a lifetime chemistry and vibe they had and putting it to use before its too late. I dont know if i want to see Slash do a Carlos Santana style solo album.......... I think those are kind of cheesy....... wouldn't be as cheezy as some lame ass reunion. besides, you can't reunite a band thats already together. You know what he means , Kiss went through various line up changes but still people love the original. I think they are all too smart NOT to get back together , really as said before name ONE major rock band that HASN'T got back together. If you're talking live performances, one that jumps out is Pink Floyd, unless you count a one off charity event where Roger Waters joined them to play 4 songs and was totally a one time deal. If you're talking reunions where they actually reformed and made new music, the list grows considerably longer I just don't see why there's such an overwhelming obsession with seeing them reunite for nothing other than money like the other bands have. Reunion tours by and large are nothing but shameless cash grabs to make the rich richer, although there are exceptions this is pretty much the norm. They just seem tacky to me but obviously the millions who pay to see the Van Halen tour disagreed. But something about a bunch of rich musicians who don't like each other reuniting with the common goal of padding their already bulging bank accounts just seems cheesy to me Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 07:26:49 PM "For the fans to attempt to condemn me to relationships even only professional with any of these men is a prison sentence and something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'd say my parole is nearly over. I'm practically a free man and if you don't like it you'll have plenty of time to get used to the idea." Axl, August 2002. /jarmo Yeah because he will never change his mind , ask him what he thought about the guys in '88 , bet it be a lot different. With age he might get a different perspective on things. I just think it's almost inevitable to happen. fuck a stupid reunion. you people still going on about wanting a reunion are A. Unrealistic B. need to get your head out of 1992 C. Disrespectful A. Unrealistic possibly so , but thats what they said about Pink Floyd getting on a stage together , or Zeppelin playing again. B. Last time I checked its 2008 , just because I think a "reunion" of some sort if eventually going to happen doesn't mean I'm stuck in any year. If guns puts out good songs it puts out good songs , but I've yet to see guns put anything out since Spaghetti Incident. C. To who? The band members? Golly gee wizz would never want to hurt anyone's feelings , opinions are like assholes everyone has 'em. I dont agree, I think its just grown men finally acting mature and realizing what a once in a lifetime chemistry and vibe they had and putting it to use before its too late. I dont know if i want to see Slash do a Carlos Santana style solo album.......... I think those are kind of cheesy....... wouldn't be as cheezy as some lame ass reunion. besides, you can't reunite a band thats already together. You know what he means , Kiss went through various line up changes but still people love the original. I think they are all too smart NOT to get back together , really as said before name ONE major rock band that HASN'T got back together. If you're talking live performances, one that jumps out is Pink Floyd, unless you count a one off charity event where Roger Waters joined them to play 4 songs and was totally a one time deal. If you're talking new music, the list grows considerably longer I never said they would make a full on album , I think they will eventually share a stage together. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 22, 2008, 07:34:54 PM Yeah because he will never change his mind , ask him what he thought about the guys in '88 , bet it be a lot different. With age he might get a different perspective on things. I just think it's almost inevitable to happen. ::) Yeah, the perspective that you wanna do that reunion even less than before. :hihi: It's gone from zero to negative! /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 07:44:59 PM Yeah because he will never change his mind , ask him what he thought about the guys in '88 , bet it be a lot different. With age he might get a different perspective on things. I just think it's almost inevitable to happen. ::) Yeah, the perspective that you wanna do that reunion even less than before. :hihi: It's gone from zero to negative! /jarmo ??? Peoples ideas can change through the years Quote The bottom line is that nothing can come between Slash and I - Axl Rose WOW!! LOOK AT THAT! Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 22, 2008, 07:47:59 PM Wait, you use an old quote to prove that the reunion is happening?
Clever. : ok: /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 07:52:22 PM Wait, you use an old quote to prove that the reunion is happening? Clever. : ok: /jarmo Wait , you use an old quote to prove that the reunion isn't happening? Clever. : ok: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 22, 2008, 07:52:30 PM Yeah because he will never change his mind , ask him what he thought about the guys in '88 , bet it be a lot different. With age he might get a different perspective on things. I just think it's almost inevitable to happen. ::) Yeah, the perspective that you wanna do that reunion even less than before. :hihi: It's gone from zero to negative! /jarmo ??? Peoples ideas can change through the years Quote The bottom line is that nothing can come between Slash and I - Axl Rose WOW!! LOOK AT THAT! Relationships start off well and go sour all the time. That's pretty normal. Axl said that when, in the 80's? By the mid-90's a ton of shit had happened between them both personally and professionally to change that In 2002, Axl said the comment Jarmo posted. He said it after not speaking to Slash for 6 years. Now, 6 years down the line, they still haven't spoken and the only interaction they've had has been lawsuits against each other. It's not really logical to make the comparison. Because plenty happened between the quote you posted and the 2002 quote to sour their relationship. Nothing that's happened since 2002 has happened that would mend the relationship, if anything what's happened between then and now has just soured what's left of the relationship even further, if you can even call it a relationship anymore. They haven't spoken or even been in the same room as each other in 12 years Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 07:57:50 PM Yeah because he will never change his mind , ask him what he thought about the guys in '88 , bet it be a lot different. With age he might get a different perspective on things. I just think it's almost inevitable to happen. ::) Yeah, the perspective that you wanna do that reunion even less than before. :hihi: It's gone from zero to negative! /jarmo ??? Peoples ideas can change through the years Quote The bottom line is that nothing can come between Slash and I - Axl Rose WOW!! LOOK AT THAT! Relationships start off well and go sour all the time. That's pretty normal. Axl said that when, in the 80's? By the mid-90's a ton of shit had happened between them both personally and professionally to change that In 2002, Axl said the comment Jarmo posted. He said it after not speaking to Slash for 6 years. Now, 6 years down the line, they still haven't spoken and the only interaction they've had has been lawsuits against each other. It's not really logical to make the comparison. Because plenty happened between the quote you posted and the 2002 quote to sour their relationship. Nothing that's happened since 2002 has happened that would mend the relationship, if anything what's happened between then and now has just soured what's left of the relationship even further, if you can even call it a relationship anymore. They haven't spoken or even been in the same room as each other in 12 years So Jarmo can validate the claim that a reunion isn't happening by using an old quote , but the opposite doesn't work? GENIUS That is exactly my point THINGS CHANGE just because Axl feels he doesn't want it know , doesn't mean he can't want it later? Why is it always a one way street when discussing this. My point is people change , so a quote from 2002 doesn't mean anything 20 years from now. EDIT: Anyways don't want this thread to go to shit , so I'm done discussing unless anyone has any smart remarks left , the thread is about VR and a possible new album not a GNR reunion. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: jarmo on January 22, 2008, 08:01:04 PM Wait, you use an old quote to prove that the reunion is happening? Clever. : ok: /jarmo Wait , you use an old quote to prove that the reunion isn't happening? Clever. : ok: If your quote is old, then that one can hardly be considered old..... You also chose to ignore facts. If you think Axl is more interested in a reunion today, then I don't think your reunion dreams are based in anything having to do with the real world. Now back to discussing the next VR album. /jarmo Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 22, 2008, 08:02:36 PM Yeah because he will never change his mind , ask him what he thought about the guys in '88 , bet it be a lot different. With age he might get a different perspective on things. I just think it's almost inevitable to happen. ::) Yeah, the perspective that you wanna do that reunion even less than before. :hihi: It's gone from zero to negative! /jarmo ??? Peoples ideas can change through the years Quote The bottom line is that nothing can come between Slash and I - Axl Rose WOW!! LOOK AT THAT! Relationships start off well and go sour all the time. That's pretty normal. Axl said that when, in the 80's? By the mid-90's a ton of shit had happened between them both personally and professionally to change that In 2002, Axl said the comment Jarmo posted. He said it after not speaking to Slash for 6 years. Now, 6 years down the line, they still haven't spoken and the only interaction they've had has been lawsuits against each other. It's not really logical to make the comparison. Because plenty happened between the quote you posted and the 2002 quote to sour their relationship. Nothing that's happened since 2002 has happened that would mend the relationship, if anything what's happened between then and now has just soured what's left of the relationship even further, if you can even call it a relationship anymore. They haven't spoken or even been in the same room as each other in 12 years So Jarmo can validate the claim that a reunion isn't happening by using an old quote , but the opposite doesn't work? GENIUS Like I said, a TON of shit has happened between Axl and Slash on both a personal and professional level since the quote you posted Nothing has happened between them on a personal level since the quote Jarmo posted, they haven't spoken to each other since then, and on the professional level both have filed lawsuits against each other which isn't exactly going to patch things up. Jarmo's quote is relevant to their current situation, because in terms of their relationship, little to nothing has changed since that quote. Meanwhile, the quote you posted is totally irrelevant because so much has changed between the time that was said and the time the 2002 quote was said Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 08:03:12 PM Wait, you use an old quote to prove that the reunion is happening? Clever. : ok: /jarmo Wait , you use an old quote to prove that the reunion isn't happening? Clever. : ok: If your quote is old, then that one can hardly be considered old..... You also chose to ignore facts. If you think Axl is more interested in a reunion today, then I don't think your reunion dreams are based in anything having to do with the real world. Now back to discussing the next VR album. /jarmo I never said that my point i was trying to get across was that things could change , from 92 he said nothing came between em and in 02 he said what you posted , so by 2012 ( nice year lmao ) who knows is what I was trying to get across. Of course he isn't more interested right now. * Or lack there of thanks to a possible STP reunion :nervous: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Limulus on January 22, 2008, 10:16:06 PM Axl January 2006:
As for a reunion with his former Gn'R mates, that seems unlikely. "I haven't spoken to Slash in ten years," Rose says. "I love the guy, I always wanted everyone to know how great he was, but.... I was just talking to Izzy the other day though." Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Jim Bob on January 22, 2008, 10:17:56 PM Axl January 2006: As for a reunion with his former Gn'R mates, that seems unlikely. "I haven't spoken to Slash in ten years," Rose says. "love the guy, I always wanted everyone to know how great he was, but.... I was just talking to Izzy the other day though." there, i underlined the important parts. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 10:22:45 PM As I said change is always possibly , but of course I'm just disrespectful , stuck in the past , and unrealistic what do I know.
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Limulus on January 22, 2008, 10:30:37 PM your first underlined part isnt even an Axl quote :P
but go on ignoring the "...i love this guy (= slash)..."-part he did 3,5 years AFTER that Axl press release from august 2002. off curse i do understand that it doesn fit in your anti-slash world. its a fact that Axl changed his mind very often, so often that people cant rule out some kind of re-union ever. but hups we talk about VR new album here, hope that will be made and turns out way better than the first 2 ones. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Jim Bob on January 22, 2008, 10:35:48 PM it gets really fucking old, hearing you people whine for a stupid reunion. theres no need, the band fucking perfect as it is.
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 10:38:45 PM it gets really fucking old, hearing you people whine for a stupid reunion. theres no need, the band fucking perfect as it is. I love how you ignore everything he just said :hihi: :beer: Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Smoking Guns on January 22, 2008, 10:40:25 PM Jim Bob, would you be a GNR fan if there was a reunion? You should accept whatever form GNR is right? Aren't you a GNR fan?
Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Jim Bob on January 22, 2008, 10:47:43 PM Jim Bob, would you be a GNR fan if there was a reunion? You should accept whatever form GNR is right? Aren't you a GNR fan? a gnr fan? yes. interested? no. I would lose interest completely. Thankfully its not happening anyways. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: SpiritDave on January 23, 2008, 01:36:26 AM it gets really fucking old, hearing you people whine for a stupid reunion. theres no need, the band fucking perfect as it is. Well, in a year when someone else is replaced, you'll probably say the same thing dude :) hehe Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: SpiritDave on January 23, 2008, 01:37:02 AM Jim Bob, would you be a GNR fan if there was a reunion? You should accept whatever form GNR is right? Aren't you a GNR fan? a gnr fan? yes. interested? no. I would lose interest completely. Thankfully its not happening anyways. hah :) Come on man ... you're talking rubbish. You'd piss yourself with excitement :) You know you would :P Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: don_vercetti on January 23, 2008, 05:33:05 AM "For the fans to attempt to condemn me to relationships even only professional with any of these men is a prison sentence and something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'd say my parole is nearly over. I'm practically a free man and if you don't like it you'll have plenty of time to get used to the idea." Axl, August 2002. /jarmo I'd like to introduce my old friend, Mr Izzy Stradlin! Axl, 17/05/06 - Hammerstein Ballroom I think that's him working in a professional capacity with "these men". I'm not even saying I want a reunion now, just reinforcing the point that even the mighty Axl can change his mind. Personally I want to see CD1-3 released, and see what happens from there. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 23, 2008, 09:31:24 AM what could the new album be called? "liberation of our record deal" ? :smoking:
Axl January 2006: As for a reunion with his former Gn'R mates, that seems unlikely. "I haven't spoken to Slash in ten years," Rose says. "I love the guy, I always wanted everyone to know how great he was, but.... I was just talking to Izzy the other day though." (people (D), while you read this gnrfamilyreference, try not to fantasise about axl and slash being in love :P ) we could see it like a family.. kind of.. imagine axl being the father and slash the mother to a child called GNR.. they couldn't live with each other so the mummy cowardly left, the father had to raise the child on his own and started a new family which he loves now, he loves the old mummy for helping him making GNR but can't forgive her for leaving, and i don't care if slash gave birth to GNR, GNR is better with a sober dad and his family then in a stormy relationship with an (former)addict and a whore :rofl:, damn i think i had one more family reference to gnr but anyway.. ;) in some way i hope that weirdass story makes some sense in why axl would love slash.. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: chineseblues on January 23, 2008, 10:05:33 AM "For the fans to attempt to condemn me to relationships even only professional with any of these men is a prison sentence and something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'd say my parole is nearly over. I'm practically a free man and if you don't like it you'll have plenty of time to get used to the idea." Axl, August 2002. /jarmo I'd like to introduce my old friend, Mr Izzy Stradlin! Axl, 17/05/06 - Hammerstein Ballroom I think that's him working in a professional capacity with "these men". I'm not even saying I want a reunion now, just reinforcing the point that even the mighty Axl can change his mind. Personally I want to see CD1-3 released, and see what happens from there. If you had read that entire article/interview you would know Axl was talking about slash, duff and matt. Quote On the subject of Slash Axl commented: ?Originally I intended to do more of an Appetite style recording but with the changes in the band's dynamics and the band's musical influences at the time it didn't appear realistic. So, I opted for what I thought would or should've made the band and especially Slash very happy. Basically I was interested in making a Slash record with some contributions from everybody else. There?d still be some chemistry and some synergy happening and whatever dynamics anyone else could bring in to the project. It seemed to me that anytime we got close to something that would work, it wasn?t out of opinion that Slash would go ?hey it doesn?t work?, but it was nixed simply because it did work. In other words, ?Whoa, wait a minute. That actually might be successful, we can?t do that.? People like to call me paranoid. It has nothing to do with paranoia; it was to do with reality. If the material were strong enough for me to sink my teeth in then I would still be in a certain public position in regards to Guns, we?d have possibly still held a certain popularity with the public as I have previously been fortunate enough to have had. Slash and his ex-wife Renee and his security guy and closest confidant at the time, Ronnie Stalnacker could not live with that. It?s not something Slash could live with. Slash chose not to be here over control issues. Now people can say ?Well Axl, you?re after control of the band too.? You?re damn skippy. That?s right. I am the one held responsible since day one. When it comes to Guns n? Roses, I may not always get everything right but I do have a good idea about getting things from point A to point B and knowing what the job is that we have to do. Within those parameters, I give everyone as much freedom to do what they want something Slash has verified in several interviews. Had Slash stepped up and written what we captured glimpses of, it would have created an environment that was beyond Slash?s ability to control. He did not want to do that or put himself through the rigors of taking the band to that level even if he was capable of writing it. Was he capable of doing it? Absolutely 100%. I think that some of the riffs that were coming out of him were the meanest, most contemporary, bluesiest, rocking thing since Aerosmith?s Rocks. The 2000 version of Aerosmith Rocks or the 1996 Aerosmith Rocks by the time we would have put it out. I don?t know if I would have wanted to even do a world tour at the time but I wanted to put that record together and could we have done it? Yes. It?s not something I would want to approach (without Slash) because at the time there was only one person that I knew who could do certain riffs that way. We still needed the collaboration of the band as a whole to write the best songs. Since none of that happened, that?s the reason why that material got scrapped. If one were to say well then why not do it now there are several reasons.1) My band, too much time, too much effort and hardship. Confidence in our material. Excitement in watching this grow and being a part of the whole experience. 2) Money. You get what you play for and nothing?s free. Can you cover the cost of this venture and its financial potential that I am just supposed to walk away from and for what? To where? I do not believe in any true effort or potential regarding most of my past relationship from the other party or parties, creatively or emotionally. Without that the money from a reunion doesn't mean much and though I'm sure the alumni is up for it for me it would be as or more lacking than it was during our attempts to work together previously. As a friend and former friend of Slash said to me in regards to working with Slash, "you can only do so many pull ups." This is my shot and you can root for me to fail all you want, but there is simply way too much put into this to cater to someone else's selfish needs and destroy peoples dreams I truly care about including my own. Not too mention that though I've fought what feels like the heart of the nature of this entire industry, my own people would probably eat me alive if I opted for a lesser course. 3) Slash has lied about nearly everything and anything to nearly everyone and anyone. It's who he is. It's what he does. Duff's support for the man though understandable in one sense in regard to his circumstances, is inexcusable, and furthers my distance from the two of them. For me Matt doesn't figure into the equation and for as much as I was a friend to him he was incapable of reciprocating and life is much better without such an obvious albatross. Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking anything away from the alumni in regard to their prior performances on record or touring to support the albums. I know how I was treated and more importantly I know how they treated others during both of these things, it's not a way anyone should be forced or even asked to work. And for the record I'm referring to Slash and Matt in regards to their actions and behavior, Duff played more of a supporting role (for reasons I've never understood). For the fans to attempt to condemn me to relationships even only professional with any of these men is a prison sentence and something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'd say my parole is nearly over. I'm practically a free man and if you don't like it you'll have plenty of time to get used to the idea.? As you can see, Izzy wasn't even mentioned. Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: Wando on January 23, 2008, 10:18:04 AM it gets really fucking old, hearing you people whine for a stupid reunion. theres no need, the band fucking perfect as it is. You mean with or without Brain?Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: SpiritDave on January 24, 2008, 06:29:53 AM it gets really fucking old, hearing you people whine for a stupid reunion. theres no need, the band fucking perfect as it is. You mean with or without Brain?LOL :D what could the new album be called? "liberation of our record deal" ? :smoking: Axl January 2006: As for a reunion with his former Gn'R mates, that seems unlikely. "I haven't spoken to Slash in ten years," Rose says. "I love the guy, I always wanted everyone to know how great he was, but.... I was just talking to Izzy the other day though." (people (D), while you read this gnrfamilyreference, try not to fantasise about axl and slash being in love :P ) we could see it like a family.. kind of.. imagine axl being the father and slash the mother to a child called GNR.. they couldn't live with each other so the mummy cowardly left, the father had to raise the child on his own and started a new family which he loves now, he loves the old mummy for helping him making GNR but can't forgive her for leaving, and i don't care if slash gave birth to GNR, GNR is better with a sober dad and his family then in a stormy relationship with an (former)addict and a whore :rofl:, damn i think i had one more family reference to gnr but anyway.. ;) in some way i hope that weirdass story makes some sense in why axl would love slash.. In your story, you forget to mention that Axl also replaced his child with a new one ... not very Fatherly.... ;) Title: Re: VR to begin work on new album in April! Post by: CheapJon on January 24, 2008, 06:38:02 AM what could the new album be called? "liberation of our record deal" ? :smoking: Axl January 2006: As for a reunion with his former Gn'R mates, that seems unlikely. "I haven't spoken to Slash in ten years," Rose says. "I love the guy, I always wanted everyone to know how great he was, but.... I was just talking to Izzy the other day though." (people (D), while you read this gnrfamilyreference, try not to fantasise about axl and slash being in love :P ) we could see it like a family.. kind of.. imagine axl being the father and slash the mother to a child called GNR.. they couldn't live with each other so the mummy cowardly left, the father had to raise the child on his own and started a new family which he loves now, he loves the old mummy for helping him making GNR but can't forgive her for leaving, and i don't care if slash gave birth to GNR, GNR is better with a sober dad and his family then in a stormy relationship with an (former)addict and a whore :rofl:, damn i think i had one more family reference to gnr but anyway.. ;) in some way i hope that weirdass story makes some sense in why axl would love slash.. In your story, you forget to mention that Axl also replaced his child with a new one ... not very Fatherly.... ;) no he didn't replace his child, he kept it alive when slash left it to die : ok: |