Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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i hear those lyrics too, but i dont understand how it can be thought of as a one in a million moment. i didn't think the song containecd any derogatory terms at all.

i dont think anyone will do that, he's not saying anything offensive at all!

On live versions, I heard the first line as

It's like a walk in the park for myself

but listening to the new version, it does sound like from the cell.

I'm sure the second line is

Now you?re keeping your own kind in hell

I think those lyrics were done by people listening to bootlegs (possibly not very good ones?).



I see the song as a criticism of the Chinese government, and the words your own kind being a reference to the Chinese people. Just my take...

I'd always heard "Like your keeping your own kind of hell," but I don't see it being a big deal either way.

I like the line, Jonny von Doom

them and still you're out of time. :P

htgth always says
It's like a walk in a park from a cell
And now you're keeping you're own kind in hell
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/releases/chinese-democracy/chinese-democracy.html

^  Exactly. 

so axl cant criticize a communist nation if he wants?

communist nations have feelings too

Don't we all know this already? What did you think the title "Chinese Democracy" is, if it isn't already a shot at the communism? :P

And they let their citizens have feeling too,
Only If they make em...

Not being there I don't have a clue about how china is but apparently China is fast changing as we speak. 

I think it can be a metaphor for a despotic /monopolistic state on any scale.

 ??? well i guess i wasnt the only one....  :peace:

You should not care about these dates. Amazon refreshes a random date every year :-\

 ??? R U Serious??? not again, geee when are these (excuse my language) idiots going to give it up already... i wonder if anyone really does give $$$ into this "preorder" lie and if they do, what does Amazon do with their $$$..???uhhmmm geee i wonder....  :peace:

tihs thread was about the song eh? if you wanna talk about release dates on internet sites there's a thread for that : ok:

you think you got it all locked up inside
and if you feed them enough they'll die
its like a walk in the park from a cell
now your keeping your own kind in hell
when you pray for us blame yourself
cant make out this line
and your out of time


thats from the studio version. I can never figure out the 6th line. Does anyone know?

I think it's: "Like if your ass from your head you could tell" haha

When they performed it in 2002, it was "And when their arms reach out for your help" but it's definitely not that in the demo.

For those two lines, I hear

When your Great Wall rocks, blame yourself
Like if your eyes were in your head, you could tell

there are always conservative people in any community. I guess communism and despotism are two different things tho. 

According to wiki, Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes establishment of a classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production. This doesn't sound like china or any communist nation but a bit like the world of Internet. maybe the idea itself and democracy aren't exactly incompatible.

I don't remember axl said anything about the ideology but he referred to the oppressive government.

from the leak I hear:
you think you got it all locked up inside
and if you feed them enough they'll die
its like a walk in the park from a cell
now your keeping your own kind in hell
when you pray for us blame yourself
as if your ass were your head you could tell
and your out of time

the lines written like this i'm not sure of..

but if you listen to the boston bootleg from 02 axl sings:

you think you got it all locked up inside
and if you feed them enough they'll die
its like a walk in the park from a cell
and now your keeping your own kind in hell
and if your great wall rots blame yourself (this can also be: and while you pray for us blame yourself)
while their arms reach out for your help
and i'm out of time

and from a bootleg from chiba 2007 he sings:
you think you've got them all locked up inside
and if you feed them enough they'll die
its like a walk in the park from a cell
and now your keeping your own kind in hell
and while your great wall rots blame yourself (this can also be: and while you pray for us blame yourself)
while their arms reach out for your help
and your out of time

maybe it's a possibility that when we think he sings "it's like a walk in the park from a cell" he might sing "it's like a walk in the park for myself" who knows :P

anyway since the chiba bootleg is the most recent i think that is what we'll hear on the record..

I thought we didn't discuss leaks here. ;)


As long as one doesn't disparage the State

HTGTH is not just a message board, guys.. there's an ass load of other things too.. such as LYRICS! lol  ::)


 It don't really matter
You'll find out for yourself
No, it don't really matter
I'm gonna leave this thing to, somebody else

If they were missionaries
Real time visionaries
Sitting in a Chinese stew
To view my disinfatuation

I know that I'm a classic case
Watch my disenchanted face
Blame it on the Falun Gong
They see the end and you can't hold on, now

Cause it would take a lot more hate than you
To stop the fascination
Even with an iron fist
All they've got to rule the nation
But all I got is precious time

It don't really matter
Guess I'll keep it to myself
No, it don't really matter
It's time I look around for somebody else

'Cause it would take a lot more time than you
Have got for masturbation
Even with your iron fist
All they've got to rule the nation
But all I got is precious time
All they've got to fool the nation
But all I got is precious time

<Robin Finck solo>

It don't really matter
I guess you'll find out for yourself
No, it don't really matter
So you can hear it now from somebody else

You think you've got it all locked up inside
And if you beat 'em enough they'll die
It's like a walk in a park from a cell
And now you're keeping you're own kind in hell
And if your Great Wall rots blame yourself
As if your head were your ass you can tell
And we're out of time...

redsquare, I disagree with your inference that "he was behind them all along."  we've heard countless times that the leaks weren't meant to be heard.  don't ya think a more likely source would be disgruntled former producers or a disgruntled former player?  just sayin'.

btw, on topic, I agree with estranged 063087.  That's what I hear.

I must say, I have no idea what that masturbation line is all about.

I don't know, to every person there's a different meaning.  To me, it's kind of like telling the tyrants the "illusion of freedom" they impose on their citizens is like masturbation.  It's basically empty and void of meaning.  There's no connection to reality.  Yes, you rule, but eventually your corrupt regime is exposed for what it really is...unjust.  In time, it will be exposed...hence, the Great Wall rots.  The great symbol of government power rots.

pretty cool stuff.  lyrics can be tough to decipher, especially when they are written in such a "stream of consciousness fashion."  It's kick-ass stuff.   8)

save that the wall wasn't built by the government. It was by ancient kings and emperors. :P


er, wank..... being a wanker?

^ Really? (said in sarcastic tone)

It's symbolic.  Ya know?  Metaphoric?  Like most things in China, who do you think owns it?  Very good!  the government.
 :P

yeah i like "jerking around" you know : ok: