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Edited in 14/04/08:

Yeah, I know this rumor is going on for quite some time, but there's a new source (kinda credible) saying it will happen:

Festival
The bands Red Hot Chili Peppers and Guns N' Roses will come to Brazil this year. Where and when the show is gonna happen is yet to be decided.


Source (in portuguese): http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/ilustrada/ult90u391816.shtml

Sorry if its a bogus, but would be cool if someone could check this rumor.

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Sorry for the lame ass translation:


Will they come?

(...)

Another one who has "good chances" (says a producer) to be here is the Guns N' Roses, at the beginign of the second half of the year.

Whole article (in portuguese): http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/ilustrada/ult90u359387.shtml

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Well, this is a really reliable source (I mean, the newspaper). But I dunno about their source, so, take it as a grain of salt. Also, shall I remember you that last year we had several rumors about shows in Brazil and nothing happened?

Maybe people here wouldn't be interested, but if this is true, it may be a good sign of things starting to moving again. Maybe with the album too. Here's hope!  :peace:

Well GNR has a history at the Rock In Rio fest which they played in 2006, so I'm sure that's probably why they're on this rumor mill.

Hopefully we'll get some news in the near future. One could only hope.

^
Well, Rock in Rio doesn?t belong to us anymore lol
 :rofl: :hihi: :rant: :crying:

but let?s see if this happen, probably with the new album

Yeah, why did they change that? I mean lets go from Brazil to Portugal and Spain...?

Anyway, in the words of Mike (Cheese) Pizza, "we love what you do and hope you do more of it".

I think Roberto Medina ( and now his gang of money makers ) wanted to rock in rio be like the best festival of all times, and keeping the "only in Brazil" thing wouldn?t work.
Shame for us because the event opened lots of doors to our contry and our musicians to the whole word.
And of course, to see lots of cool bands here in the same event.
I get a bit of jealousy seeing those festivals around the world with great bands, and knot seeing this around here anymore.

But let?s hope to Guns bring the next tour to here! That?s what I?m waiting!!
and maybe, someday, play with my band in the same stage as Axl, Fink and the gang  :peace:

South America is definitely long overdue for GnR  :peace:   Hope they get some shows in 2008, and hopefully they come back to North America!   

Sounds good, but they need to get back to NORTH AMERICA!

no, germany.  :love:

The next time they tour North America, the album release must be imminent or in the stores. A third Chinese Democracy tour without an album would be difficult to explain.

I am lukewarm about this rumor though. Maybe I have an anglo-centric view of things but could this band tour South America when the album drops? A presence in Europe or the USA makes sense to me when the drop occurs.

Like KillingVector said, they need the album to come back to North America. They're picky little shits over here.

Besides the LA/NY shows in 2006 the attendance was somewhat lackluster from the shows that I went to. All that will change once people realize the talent of the new line-up and hear the album not to mention the band gets the promotion and exposure that it deserves.

sorry to sound like a tard but how do rumors such as these get started????




PS wouldn't a US tour be NOT smart without an album? or even a Brazillian tour for that matter  :headscratch:

CDE, the article is from a Portuguese newspaper stating the acts that will be coming to South America in 2008 and the producer states that GNR is a band likely to play there this year.

ahh i see :)


but still any tour with no album (again) is stupid and they must see this so ..........Heres to a CHINESE DEMOCRACY in 2008 :beer:

If it turns out to be true, it could be soon before the album drops. Other bands already did that.

I mean, maybe by then, they will have already a real release date set with a single.

I hope it's true this time.

Quite frankly, the 2001-2002 wasn't a smart move without an album
However, i smell a repeat of 2004, where the band were scheduled to do a one off performance at rio, but cancelled due to a deature of a member (my money is on this time it being Robin Finck or Tommy Stinson)

Could they be going to South America for a couple of gigs to promote the album...?? :yes: Yes, I'm getting over excited but doesn't it sound kinda promising? Even though it's just a rumour.

go to mygnr with that kind of bullshit : ok:

hope it comes true for Brazilian fans.


You have a piss poor nose.

it wasn't totally stupid then it could have been considered as "promotion" but if they do it again..........


Don't scare the people like that :no:

:peace:

Thanks for the info, I hope it comes true for the fans in South America. That being said, I do hope as well that this time the tour (wherever it may be) will be in the same timeframe as the album's release...GN'R shows in South America are always an event, that'd be cool.

well, GNR never missed RIR without real issues, so maybe this will really happen

Thanks for info.  :)

Is "the plan" only one concert or a full South American tour?

I don't think they'd know, even if GnR had set a date or two already.

They could be booking venues for some gigs, right...? Or is it too early for possible late summer gigs (I don't think it is)?

Often I see this misunderstanding... This has nothing to do with RIR. Since 2004 (the one missed due to Bucket's departure), the Rock In Rio event is nothing but a brand and it's no more in Brazil - the last two were in Portugal and seems like the next one is gonna be in Spain. I know it sounds crazy because of "Rio", but the city Rio de Janeiro has no connection anymore with RIR.

Who knows? I don't. I just thought of a tour because it seems like it was the plan to hit more than two cities here in Brazil, although the rumors from last year turned out to be untrue or just plain scams.

I keep my fingers crossed for the fans in Brazil. If they come go and see them you won't regret it!!!

Hope they play many shows in the new year!

And I agree with Waldorf, they really should play more dates in Germany.

yeah I know, I was just referring the Rock in Rio Madrid 2008 mention

Yeah, I know this rumor is going on for quite some time, but there's a new source (kinda credible) saying it will happen:

Festival
The bands Red Hot Chili Peppers and Guns N' Roses will come to Brazil this year. Where and when the show is gonna happen is yet to be decided.


Source (in portuguese): http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/ilustrada/ult90u391816.shtml

Sorry if its a bogus, but would be cool if someone could check this rumor.

Cough "wheres Mysteron" cough

Sure, why not?

There is nothing to check until the 'where and when' parts are reported.

At best this is a promoter being bullish about the chances of GN'R playing in Brazil this year

Okey, could you give us some clue about Robin? I mean, if there were a GNR tour this year, would Robin be with them playing?

Does anyone feel like the only reason Dr. Pepper would make such an offer is because they KNOW something about the record NOT coming out this year?

Somehow it feels very odd that a soda company would have any actual info on Chinese Democracy.

I think the Dr Pepper subject belong to another thread.

Thanks man, I just posted because the source is the biggest newspaper here and thought it could may have some real info.

GN'R will tour in southamerica if they release CD... that's my point and all promoters (like the one who brought maiden this year) think the same

I do not know.

I have posted my thoughts to the other thread. This thread is about the S America thing

And you are a promoter?
Of all places in the world, Guns can always tour SA and sell out even without an album out. But the point is, the band itself doesn't want to tour without an album any more. Not that various promoters have demands on the album release, which of course would be ridiculous.

I think it's wishful thinking from the promoter at this point.





/jarmo

Here In Chile Producers in the most important country, a couple of months ago was something pareceido comment.

HBK *

Its on rollingstone.com

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/04/15/guns-n-roses-to-play-brazil-in-08/

It still doesn't make it true.




/jarmo

I know.  :)

Maybe Rollingstone just picked the rumor up here?

The Word Perfect is:


 :smoking:

HBK *

Stop trying to get people's hopes up.

It's bad enough this promoter is trying to make it seem like the Brazilian shows are actually happening, when in fact it's just wishful thinking from him.

Wouldn't be surprised if RHCP has no clue about their Brazilian shows either.


/jarmo

Jarmo, I work Production of events here in chile and talk within the Team for a Future Visit GNR.

Step With JOURNEY, ROD STEWART In the last months.

 :smoking:

* HBK

Exactly, within the team.

Seems like a lot of people are just talking without having much to stand on.







/jarmo

Families are long-term, does not mean that coming in October, November or December, but everything can happen, at least here in chile.

 :) :) :)

HBK *

What the hell?  Families are long term?  What the hell does that have to do with Guns N' Roses?

Someone throw me a frickin' bone here.  I must be missing something.

Ali

Sorry.  (GNR & BAZ)  :hihi:

I meant ... PLANIFICATIONS Are Long Time.

 : ok: : ok: : ok:

HBK *

He must be using an online translator to make his posts in enhlish.

Are you now saying that there have been discussions for Baz's band and GN'R to play Brazil?

Ali

This whole thing is made up.




/jarmo

I think he applogized for the misunderstanding first ("Sorry"), and then connected it to the song on which Baz sings. Nothing to do with Baz touring with GN'R.

Then he said that those are long term plans, so you can probably not shoot them down since it can always happen some day - nice way to avoid blame for starting rumors with no substance at this time.

He also meant Chile, not Brazil, but I guess you can put both under the same roof for a potential SA tour.

Those on the right thing

HBK *

Axl always puts out his best performances in Brazil.  I hope its true.  NOTHING is topping ROCK IN RIO III in Brazil back in 2001....!

this is bullshit

why would their be a rumour about gnr playing a show  , when their isnt even a rumour yet about a possible release this year?

You cant have smoke without fire, so I say this rumour is absolute crap

RIR was in Portugal in 2004 and 2006, this year it will be ther too.

sarcasm?

anyway I've seen dry ice but I believe that rumours about a possible release will come true.

Well since its in Rolling Stone now, we can hope for a official admission/denial from gunsnroses.com ...Maybe..

maybe that's what RS hoped :hihi:

I hope this is true - I am backpacking round Brazil from June!

There is nothing to back up this rumor. Sorry.

However, Brazil is a great country and the locals are very welcoming. You will enjoy your time there.

The member skyzo from the Voodoochild's board Perfect Crime, which I'm moderator, sent an e-mail to the columnist that said this show is going to happen, asking her more informations about it. Here's her reply:

Dear Wellington,
According verifications from the column, the show that Guns might play in Brazil this year is part of the tour of the band's new album. When it's about Guns N' Roses, as you know well, everything is possible. But the deal is going well. It's about a brazilian producer that lives in Los Angeles which has currently invested on shows around here.
Thanks.
 
D?bora Bergamasco
Reporter column M?nica Bergamo
Ilustrada, Folha de S.Paulo
(11) 3224-XXXX
(11) 8231-XXXX

http://www.perfectcrimegnr.com/smf/index.php?topic=5385.msg112295#msg112295

 :peace: :peace: :peace:

Thanks So Much !! AMAZING !!!

 :beer:

HBK *

The keyword in that 'article' is 'might'.

This isn't an article, this is just the e-mail that D?bora Bergamasco sent to skyzo as a reply for his question.

Anyways...

I'm not saying that I believe it's true, I just hope that this - a GN'R's concert in Brazil - happens soon.

The problem is: We know more about GNR than the press, any "journalist" can come up with these rumors. Brazilian sites are always posting stuff like "Pink Floyd will play in Brazil" or "AC/DC to play in Brazil at the end of the year" I know cause I see almost every week some shit like that. Where do they get their info? Mostly all the time from their own heads. Don't really see the point to post these type of rumors on an international forum  ???

WTF are you talking about? There's some big bands playing here indeed and some of the rumors turned out to be true - The Police is an example. And there's rumors, but there's also credible media here. Your generalization is no more ignorant than saying all American (or any other country) sites always post gossip and bullshit - where the fuck do you think that whole reality show started?

This type of rumor may mean nothing for you because you can't just push your brain enough to start thinking, but there's actually some people who cares about the band they love and any action would indicate something.