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Title: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: mrbucketfoot on December 15, 2007, 02:09:20 AM It's nice to hear someone say something positive about the band, but a little random. Did they have a bit about Guns on the FUSE show? I know that they had Frank and Bumble on a little bit ago. I tried searching, so if this has been posted, my apologies.
>Bucketfoot. Quote GUNS N' ROSES: CHINESE DEMOCRACY 2008 By Anthony Kuzminski and Mark Strigl For the last 9 years, we have been anticipating the release of 'Chinese Democracy.' This will be Guns N' Roses' first album of new material since 1993. Despite the years of waiting, and the departure of 4 of 5 original members, the public has not abandoned this band. Gn'R's 'Greatest Hits' record, which had virtually no promotion, hit Billboard's top 100 at #3 in March of 2004 and hasn't dropped off the charts since. Online discussions about the highly anticipated 'Chinese Democracy' have been going on for years. Over the past few years, live performances and a few rough mixes of new songs that have leaked to the net have whipped both devotees and cynical journalists into an excited frenzy. It is evident that the craving for a new Guns N' Roses record is so intense that fans will buy or do almost anything to feed their appetites for destruction. Today we would like to go on record by saying that just because there is no longer an iconic guy wearing a top hat on lead guitar, doesn't mean we can disregard the current incarnation of Guns N' Roses. Axl Rose is a brilliant artist who defies the norm with his unrelenting willpower. New cuts such as "Better" and "Madagascar" confirm that Guns N' Roses still have thunderous artistic expression inside of them. In a day and age where rock has become way too safe, Axl Rose brings back uncertainty and danger to art form that has been lacking it for far too long. A massive league of loyal fans continue to keep the legacy of Guns N' Roses alive, and whenever 'Chinese Democracy' finally drops, the fans' patience will be rewarded. Source: http://www.striglsmusicnews.com/podcasts/talkingmetal/gunsnroses.htm Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Jim Bob on December 15, 2007, 03:29:39 AM great article. john and mark have always been huge supporters of Axl and Guns N' Roses. :peace:
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on December 15, 2007, 09:18:34 AM And it's nothing but the truth.
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: slashsbaconpit on December 17, 2007, 01:07:06 PM I agree. The Talking Metal guys are good supporters of GNR.
I hope we get to see the album come out sometime soon. Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Mysteron on December 17, 2007, 02:21:10 PM great article.? john and mark have always been huge supporters of Axl and Guns N' Roses.? :peace: Absolutely. I like the Talking Metal podcasts. They sound fresh and raw, and full of good opinion. I think Guns will return in a big way and they will show the young pretenders how it is really done. People settle for a lot less these days, musically speaking. Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Bandita on December 17, 2007, 04:11:54 PM Quote Today we would like to go on record by saying that just because there is no longer an iconic guy wearing a top hat on lead guitar, doesn't mean we can disregard the current incarnation of Guns N' Roses. Axl Rose is a brilliant artist who defies the norm with his unrelenting willpower. New cuts such as "Better" and "Madagascar" confirm that Guns N' Roses still have thunderous artistic expression inside of them. In a day and age where rock has become way too safe, Axl Rose brings back uncertainty and danger to art form that has been lacking it for far too long. I absolutely love this paragraph. I am glad they have gone on the record and said this. This band deserves major accolades and I think people will finally see this when CD comes out. The talking metal guys are great fans and they are nice as hell (well, from what I remember, I was quite wasted when I met them before the MSG show and only went up to talk on their podcast thing because Jarmo said I should!) :hihi: Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Jim Bob on December 17, 2007, 04:38:03 PM great article. john and mark have always been huge supporters of Axl and Guns N' Roses. :peace: Absolutely. I like the Talking Metal podcasts. They sound fresh and raw, and full of good opinion. I think Guns will return in a big way and they will show the young pretenders how it is really done. People settle for a lot less these days, musically speaking. definitely. and its refreshing to see a positive article like this when there is so much garbage in the media. If anyone deserves an exclusive Axl interview, its these guys! Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: ben9785 on December 17, 2007, 04:59:52 PM Great article, and very positive thoughts as always from Talking Metal hosts.
Of course, its a big difference without founding members of the band who have come to be associated with the name Guns N' Roses. For all of the criticism the new band members might get as 'replacements' for Slash or Duff etc, I think people don't realise, or don't want to realise, that the new band is exactly that - a new band. For all the moaning and loss that people may feel with whoever is no longer in the band, that's in the past now. The new GNR album will introduce to the world the "new" GNR, that is, a group of musicians who bear the 'legacy' of GNR and, at the end of the day, gossips and critics aside, these are musicians who enjoy playing music and obviously feel proud to have a great catalog of songs (whether they wrote it or not) to share with the music fans. Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: doooodickiebr on December 17, 2007, 05:48:03 PM gotta love the positive remarks....i'm tired of all the negativity!!!
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Chief on December 18, 2007, 01:05:18 AM that's a nice post, i liked what they had to say. i wonder if they talked about angel down yet?
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Billo on December 18, 2007, 04:51:20 AM But when will CD be out?? How long will it take for the record company to release it?? :peace:
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on December 18, 2007, 04:59:27 AM I?ll say christmas 2008-09..I would be surprised to see it come before that.
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Jim Bob on December 18, 2007, 06:24:12 AM But when will CD be out?? How long will it take for the record company to release it?? :peace: I don't think they have the answer to that one. I?ll say christmas 2008-09..I would be surprised to see it come before that. based on what? Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on December 18, 2007, 10:02:18 AM Jim Bob: It will not be out this christmas..They need to release it on a big holiday, and christmas is the perfect time. So..X-max 2008. I don?t think they?ll mind waiting another year..It?s been a decade already :P
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on December 18, 2007, 10:07:13 AM I am just curious why would they need a big holiday to release it?
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on December 18, 2007, 10:55:55 AM Okay.
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on December 18, 2007, 11:30:12 AM Can you ellaborate on why you think they need a big holiday to release it?
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: cineater on December 18, 2007, 11:45:49 AM What do I think? I think the record label needs GNR right now to save themselves. They need to show they can make some money and quick.
How about at the January stockholders meeting, Universal has to go in there and say their records divisions aren?t doing so great and present their hope for the future. Yeah they just spent a shit load hiring a master mixer, the guidance groans. But they have their proven money maker, GNR. When the audience quits laughing, they give a release date, hopefully the preorder numbers and to prove it?s real, a demo of 3 songs, the single, a ballad and a new song. Somebody is ready to slip it on to youtube if the fans don?t get it on their first. And to prove Axl Rose isn?t the flake your thinking he is, he?s here and the press is getting an exclusive with him right now. What do you think? Creates a buzz and maybe a little pocket change is added to the stock value? Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: kimberly on December 18, 2007, 12:19:32 PM I am just curious why would they need a big holiday to release it? because then people can give their kids/family/friends a copy of Chinese Democracy probably. however to me it seems that if that person would want Chinese Democracy he/she'd probably buy it anyway, irrelevant what period its released in.Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: mrbucketfoot on December 18, 2007, 02:02:06 PM Ideally, I'd love to see it out in spring, but then again, I don't know whats going on nor is it up to me.
However after seeing the band and their growth over the years. I can say that I unswervingly believe in the band and Chinese Democracy. It'll be exciting to see whats next. Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: bigblue88112 on December 18, 2007, 02:16:38 PM I really enjoy the TM guys and cannot wait for their interview with Slash.
I am just curious why would they need a big holiday to release it? because then people can give their kids/family/friends a copy of Chinese Democracy probably. however to me it seems that if that person would want Chinese Democracy he/she'd probably buy it anyway, irrelevant what period its released in.I can understand the thought process behind releasing CD during the holiday season, but I too feel that the actual date is irrelevant. Several friends, in addition to myself, will be purchasing multiple copies regardless of what time of year it is. Also, I might be mistaken about this, but I don't think rock albums really have the best track record during the holidays. Ideally, I'd love to see it out in spring, but then again, I don't know whats going on nor is it up to me. However after seeing the band and their growth over the years. I can say that I unswervingly believe in the band and Chinese Democracy. It'll be exciting to see whats next. QFT, sir. : ok: Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on December 18, 2007, 02:54:37 PM I really enjoy the TM guys and cannot wait for their interview with Slash. I am just curious why would they need a big holiday to release it? because then people can give their kids/family/friends a copy of Chinese Democracy probably. however to me it seems that if that person would want Chinese Democracy he/she'd probably buy it anyway, irrelevant what period its released in.I can understand the thought process behind releasing CD during the holiday season, but I too feel that the actual date is irrelevant. Several friends, in addition to myself, will be purchasing multiple copies regardless of what time of year it is. Also, I might be mistaken about this, but I don't think rock albums really have the best track record during the holidays. I can see the thinking too but I don't think they absolutely need to. When this album drops, it's going to be all over the media and people [hopefully] will buy this and not download but it's inevitable. As we have seen record sales are slumping year after year so we can only hope people will support and buy it but I also think that no matter when it's released, it's going to have the same frenzy around it. I am not saying lines out the door but this the "infamous" Chinese Demo, it's going to create a buzz no matter when it's on the shelves. Xmas time isn't going to ensure more sales then if it was released in the Spring, IMO. Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on December 18, 2007, 05:51:06 PM But that?s what YOU think. I Think the lazy bastards ( who will download the album ) parents maybe will buy the album for them at christmas? See ?
Sure it will sell many copies..But think about it..Instead of dragging yourself down to the store and spend money on the album, why not download it instead ?..It only takes 5 min ( Or less..Or moore ) So like other people said..It will loose alot of buyers because of downloading..But Christmas is the time of giving..so..Therfore...I think it will come out next x-mas...Buisness-wise. I will defenitly buy the album..Just to support them..But i think i?ll download it aswell (And i?m pretty sure you will to )..I spend all my time infront of the computer anyway.. Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on December 18, 2007, 05:57:36 PM But that?s what YOU think. I Think the lazy bastards ( who will download the album ) parents maybe will buy the album for them at christmas? See ? Sure it will sell many copies..But think about it..Instead of dragging yourself down to the store and spend money on the album, why not download it instead ?..It only takes 5 min ( Or less..Or moore ) So like other people said..It will loose alot of buyers because of downloading..But Christmas is the time of giving..so..Therfore...I think it will come out next x-mas...Buisness-wise. I will defenitly buy the album..Just to support them..But i think i?ll download it aswell (And i?m pretty sure you will to )..I spend all my time infront of the computer anyway.. Xmas could be the worst time, people hate dealing with crowds and downloading could look more appealing instead of waiting for a parking spot, sweating in the stores and what not, not me but some people think like that. I totally see where you are coming from it's all good. I guess we'll just have to see next year. :peace: Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Adler_Sorum_Brain on December 19, 2007, 05:38:18 AM Yepp :peace:
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Captaint on December 19, 2007, 11:36:42 AM thanks for supporting us.?
Angel Down rocks.? It is so great listening to something new with Axl on it. I asked Slash on Monday if he had heard the Angel Down album yet and he told me no. Strigl Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Ali on December 19, 2007, 11:42:11 AM thanks for supporting us.? Angel Down rocks.? It is so great listening to something new with Axl on it. I asked Slash on Monday if he had heard the Angel Down album yet and he told me no. Strigl Cool Mark. But, then again, if you read Slash's book, he's disappointed with the negative comments, whatever those are, that Baz has made about him and the VR guys. So, I wouldn't think he would be hyped to read it. Ali Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Captaint on December 19, 2007, 11:45:13 AM oh really... I am about 100 pages into the book right now... did not read that yet.
Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Ali on December 19, 2007, 11:50:01 AM oh really...? I am about 100 pages into the book right now...? did not read that yet. Yeah, something to that effect. Slash is disappointed that Baz has been "saying negative things" about them in the press, though I don't recall Baz ever actually doing that, and that he always liked Baz. Ali Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: Alpachiris on December 19, 2007, 02:18:57 PM It's nice to hear someone say something positive about the band, but a little random. Did they have a bit about Guns on the FUSE show? I know that they had Frank and Bumble on a little bit ago. I tried searching, so if this has been posted, my apologies. >Bucketfoot. Quote GUNS N' ROSES: CHINESE DEMOCRACY 2008 By Anthony Kuzminski and Mark Strigl For the last 9 years, we have been anticipating the release of 'Chinese Democracy.' This will be Guns N' Roses' first album of new material since 1993. Despite the years of waiting, and the departure of 4 of 5 original members, the public has not abandoned this band. Gn'R's 'Greatest Hits' record, which had virtually no promotion, hit Billboard's top 100 at #3 in March of 2004 and hasn't dropped off the charts since. Online discussions about the highly anticipated 'Chinese Democracy' have been going on for years. Over the past few years, live performances and a few rough mixes of new songs that have leaked to the net have whipped both devotees and cynical journalists into an excited frenzy. It is evident that the craving for a new Guns N' Roses record is so intense that fans will buy or do almost anything to feed their appetites for destruction. Today we would like to go on record by saying that just because there is no longer an iconic guy wearing a top hat on lead guitar, doesn't mean we can disregard the current incarnation of Guns N' Roses. Axl Rose is a brilliant artist who defies the norm with his unrelenting willpower. New cuts such as "Better" and "Madagascar" confirm that Guns N' Roses still have thunderous artistic expression inside of them. In a day and age where rock has become way too safe, Axl Rose brings back uncertainty and danger to art form that has been lacking it for far too long. A massive league of loyal fans continue to keep the legacy of Guns N' Roses alive, and whenever 'Chinese Democracy' finally drops, the fans' patience will be rewarded. Source: http://www.striglsmusicnews.com/podcasts/talkingmetal/gunsnroses.htm nice!!! very nice! Title: Re: Talking Metal guys talking GNR and Chi-Dem (Thoughts, No Info) Post by: jarmo on December 19, 2007, 05:35:23 PM It pretty much sums up the reason why we're here.
You see the band live and see how great they are. Then it makes sense. It's about looking to the future and knowing that it's gonna be bright. /jarmo |