Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071115/wl_asia_afp/lifestyleaustraliachristmasoffbeat

Santas in Australia's largest city have been told not to use Father Christmas's traditional "ho ho ho" greeting because it may be offensive to women, it was reported Thursday.

Sydney's Santa Clauses have instead been instructed to say "ha ha ha" instead, the Daily Telegraph reported.

One disgruntled Santa told the newspaper a recruitment firm warned him not to use "ho ho ho" because it could frighten children and was too close to "ho", a US slang term for prostitute.

"Gimme a break," said Julie Gale, who runs the campaign against sexualising children called Kids Free 2B Kids.

"We are talking about little kids who do not understand that "ho, ho, ho" has any other connotation and nor should they," she told the Telegraph.

"Leave Santa alone."

A local spokesman for the US-based Westaff recruitment firm said it was "misleading" to say the company had banned Santa's traditional greeting and it was being left up to the discretion of the individual Santa himself.

Offensive if they are HO's maybe...

But then again, if you're a HO, are you really that easily offended?

That is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. And when I read it was in Australia I was quite shocked.

What the fuck is a Ho anyway? I understand if santa was going around calling girls Whores, sluts, moles ect but what is a ho?


 :peace:

I know I'm not! :hihi:

"Ho" is short for "Whore".

im surprised this hasnt happened in america yet...we have so many pussies in this country that look for reasons to be offended....i dont think i have ever been actually offended once in my life...you can insult my race, religion, ethnicity all fucking day...i could care less...i think people just like to overdramatize how important they actually are in the world...

I think there's a difference between a HOE and a HO... HO is a hose or house or shovel or something, right?

and HOE, would be the correct spelling for a whore, i think...

Those people are crazy...

Big time.

Yesterday I bought some steak and when I left the counter I said "Merry Christmas" to the lady. She replied the same then said "Thanks for saying Merry Christmas."

Now, I'm no Christian, but I don't see what the big deal is. Myself, I also say "Happy Holidays'. Although there is no alternative meaning to it, other than to wish well to the person I'm addressing.

If you are a different religion, then I can't see why you are offended by "Christmas", sorry. If you are not a Christian, like me, then I can't see why you would be offended either. I simply don't care.

What does piss me off is the bullshit about the "attack on Christmas" created by the types like Bill O. Probably why the lady at the meat counter told me "thanks." I think the people who are upset, are a small fraction of dopes. Hardly some secular movement boogie man talking heads would like to make them out to be.

It does irritate me, that if I do say "Happy Holidays" I may be viewed as either 1) PC loon, or 2) An individual who has been bullied into submission by a group of PC loons. Neither of which are the case. I'm simply being friendly.

I wish everybody would just quit being so fucking sensitive or apprehensive about what they say for fear of others. I also wish shitheads like Bill O, would quit creating this false stories, as I have yet to encounter one person in real life that was offended by "Merry Christmas."

I haven't met very many people who were offended by "Merry Christmas", but I don't usually say it unless that person says it first. XDD

Though I do agree, people need to chill out... My brother's girlfriend is jewish, and she doesn't get offended when someone tells her "merry christmas"...

I've never been offended either......

..... but then, I'm a moderately successful, booze-drinking Canadian-born white male aged 19-25 with no religious beliefs and Canadian-born parents........ and my main concern in life is to bring on the HO HO HOssss! ?:o

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It's the opposite of what you typed. :hihi:

I think people are just looking for a reason to be offended these days.  This case is a prime example!

HES JUST A HUMAN!!  HE JUST TRIES TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY! LEAVE SANTA ALONE!!!

 :hihi:

I love HO'S!!!!

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Yes, let new negro-terms/slang change your year old traditions :hihi:

^^ I want that for Christmas.

did any one read this part?

There is no requirement to do anything - so nothing has been changed....so this isnt even worthy of reporting ::)

Of course they are going to say that when asked.

But if you read above that one of the employees states he was specifically told he couldn't say it.

Not to mention I "reported" this because frankly it tickled my funnybone a bit not because I think it's groundbreaking news!

Ho's are funny, come on! :hihi:

''HO HO HO THAT'S GOTTA GO '' !

which women have complained about this then?

i found it offensive when a bunch of reborn christians came over to me telling me all this stuff about jesuss n stuff and when i told them i was busy and needed to listen to what my teacher was saying (we were on a trip) they informed us all how we are going to burn in hell. quite frankly those guys if they ever read this can go suck dick.

Using religious threats to try to get me to listen to stuff that doesnt even apply to me.

They then shouted how we were "as bad as the muslims", now i dont agree with alot of muslim stuff but im sure if a muslim came up to me and told me i need to follow there religion or else id tell them to fuck off. Im sure those guys went up to muslims telling them to be christian. i can see why theyd get a negative reply.

eat pork damm it ,it's good !
oink oink lol
i know peeople cause of religion don't eat pork ,it drives me crazy.my sister has friends who don't eat pork.i make it alot but not on purpose really,i just like pork.

Your posts should always be prefaced with a warning.  Something like:  "Reading this while not on heavy doses of narcotics may cause you light yourself on fire."

This is so over the top!!!!!!!!!!!! Who are these people that have time to pick apart every word in the English language and decide whether it's offensive or not. Why didn't people in the 50's,60's, 70's, 80's or 90's think that Santa's ho ho ho was offensive? Because who cares???? Because we live in a society where everyone is offended by everything? Hardly so. I truly am sick of this bullshit. I wish I was born earlier so I could be getting ready to croak instead of watching what this world is becoming.

They nix Ho next thing will be no Happy Holidays because not everyone celebrates a holiday around this time. Or the word ho is in holidays. And the midgets will start saying that portraying elves as little people is derogatory and they want to sue. And Rudolph's red nose symbolizes alcoholism and that is wrong to promote with our youth.

I'm shopping for another country - any suggestions?

Actually this happened down under not in the US which is the most shocking part of it all.  I really thought we cornered the market on being this trivial and ridiculous!

You could have warned me beforehand, now I am on fire! :rant:

Actually its spreading to the US too. A friend of mine in Memphis has said santa's there are being told to say HA HA HA.

...and what would they do if a ''santa'' said 'ho ho ho' - fire him? Even a rudimentry grasp of employment law tells you that isnt going to happen

This is just right wing shit stirring again

 ::)

Please tell me what this topic has to do with the right wing? :nervous:

Also, if you are talking about employment law in the United States (granted I have no clue about down under where this happened) MOST states have laws that state you can be fired without cause.? I know they exist in NY, NJ and FL.?

http://www.labor.state.ny.us/workerprotection/laborstandards/faq.shtm

Q: Can an employee be fired without due cause?

A: Yes. New York State is an "employment-at-will," state. Without a contract restricting termination (such as a collective bargaining agreement) an employer has the right to discharge an employee at any time for any reason.

Employment at will:

http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/laborlaws/l/aa092402.htm

As are many employees only after the fact, you might be surprised to learn in advance that U.S. employers may legally fire you for just about any reason, no reason or even an unfair reason

So I might suggest you brush up on your rudimentary knowledge of labor laws. :hihi:

This is just right wing shit stirring again

absolutely, this could never be left wing shit stirring. that's unpossible.

if i fart an catch fire i''ll letcha know right away lol.

Put down the Arbor Mist?  :beer:

don't care, santa doesn't r?present xmas in my eyes, Saint Nicolas does and in Italy, they celebrate a witch.

Santa is an american fiction, it has no pagan history to it, it is only marketing bullshit.
I can't be offended by an image.

lol can you smoke that ?
just kidden '
 :smoking:
 :beer:

Well said. I was raised Christian, and always scoffed (more reasons then one) at the idea of Santa Claus. The same thing with Valentines day, and even Halloween.

Bullshit when my local Mall has ornaments up ~2 weeks after Halloween.

Anyways, thanks Jessica, now I feel like the Grinch.  :rant:

Santa and St. Nicholas are interchangable in the US, they mean one in the same. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

Cat fight!  :o

Nah, not at all, just stating a fact that some may not know. 

Either way it isn't what the topic is about anyway.  It's about the ridiculousness of some company who thinks "Ho Ho Ho" is offensive in some way. 

I'm personally not for all the marketing BS that comes along with Christmas either, I think within 10 years from now they will start selling the holiday items right after the 4th of July.  When I was little (oh so many moons ago) it was a mystical time and it actually seemed to mean something.  Nowadays it's all marketing and kids circling every toy in the catalogs. 

It's not what it used to be....

Not everyday you get to see a cat fight you know? Thanks, Grincheta.  :-[

It's not a real catfight unless we do it in mud! :hihi:

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If a comment like that doesn't get you positive karma, I don't know what would.

Good point. Afterall christmas is just another pagan holiday stolen by the christians.

I don't know any "working girls" who are offended by the term "Ho".

Here in Europe, it can't be as Saint nicolas day is on the 6th of december and you get parades that day and kids chase him and get sweets.

Here in Holland it's on the 5th, so he can have some rest on his birthday...

In America, Saint Nicholas and Santa Claus are one and the same.

Hence the tune:

http://www.links2love.com/christmas-songs-little-saint-nick.htm

 ;)

Unless you think he's some kind of mythical superbeing with a flying reindeer powered sleigh and the ability to deliver presents down chimneys worldwide on one night, it's pretty reasonable that he does Europe and America on different days.....especially with US immigration right now.

I wanna emigrate to Europe.

All seasonal santas should act like Billy Bob in Bad Santa and just do ho ho ho's. :drool:

Wait a minute...what happens when we put up the fence to keep out all the Mexicans?  Will Santa have to go through customs?  I'm sure the "technological fence" will have Santa-proof capabilities.   :hihi:

The whole Santa thing is outrageous. 

BTW, Bandita, I just saw your earlier post...don't worry, some kids (mine included) still have a mystical Christmas season.  They have their Advent calendars, they have sent in their letters to Santa...the tree was tagged, cut down, dragged in and set up and some presents are gathered.  There's even a kick-ass star on top.  The non-stop marketing blitz seems to hit those children exposed to the onslaught...if more parents kept their kids away from that shit, everybody would be better off...in my eyes.   :peace:

Santa's Turkish....ironic, yet true.

Turkish?  Oh crap, he's never getting through customs.   :nervous:

^why go through customs? just sneak in illegally like everyone else. it's all the rage. some places will even reward you for it.

I saw this in the Post on Sunday and it seems to fit in here:

 ;)

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12092007/gossip/cindy/its_pc_on_earth_for_st__nick_91703.htm

IT'S 'PC' ON EARTH FOR ST. NICK

December 9, 2007 -- THIS year's going to be tough sledding for Santa. With all the political-correctitude around . . . oy, the season will not be good for poor Santa.

For openers, he's lost a few elves. Previously he had a non-union shop. Santa's helpers just signed on with a handshake. Came the Patriot Act and such paperwork - mother's maiden name, birth date, Social Security number, picture ID, name of your nearest munchkin. Resisting this invasion of privacy, some old-timers grumbled "Kiss my mistletoe" and headed home to Elfville.

Also there's the Equal Opportunity folk. Accusing St. Nick of chauvinism. I mean, I've always liked the old geezer - although, personally, I think Nicky could use a little makeover - but the truth is his workshop is male-dominated. When's the last time you heard of any elfette? Elfess? Elfix?

I have also informed Santa: You better not shout, you better not cry, you better not pout, I'm telling you why - immigration is another issue. Dude, be sure everyone at the North Pole has a green card.

Any leprechaun, pixie, gnome, fairy (pardon the expression) or tinseltoe who entered this country through a hole in a fence in Texas - even if for a good reason, even if just to deliver clean underwear to Britney - must first report to Lou Dobbs.

Another thing. Santa can't screw around anymore. In the old days, after a hardworking night he could meet his buds and knock off a pint of eggnog or something without the missus knowing it. Now, not. Mrs. Claus has a GPS. She not only knows whether he's been naughty or nice, she knows where he's been it.

Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. Not this Dec. 24. The noise-pollution police are on the job. No honking horns, no blaring boomboxes, no keeping Chelsea residents up all night with drunken holly-jolly caroling. Anti-noise people are talking a real silent night.

Then there's the animal-rights situation. The ASPCA, involved in monitoring the safety and health requirements of Central Park's carriage horses, now want to check that Santa's reindeer don't work more than an eight-hour shift. Let's face it, Santa's heavy-duty. No lightweight to schlep around. It must be determined that these reindeer are getting their whale-blubber breaks. And then there's health benefits. HMO or not, Donder and Blitzen need time off to visit the antlerist of their choice twice a year.

Understand, even if the military grants The Big Man special air lanes Christmas Eve, travel is no longer easy. His sleigh could be backed up on the tarmac. He could be number 42 for takeoff. And that belt buckle could trigger the metal detector.

And those boots are not for walkin', they're for pullin' off to make sure he's not bearing presents from bin Laden. And he'll have to remove that jacket so security can frisk him for Chinese-made toys. And Gifts Without Borders wants him to know if he's packing bottles of fragrance over three ounces. He'll have to use FedEx. And big belly or not, this dude has to buckle up or the NYPD nails him.

I don't know what his white fluffy cuffs and trim are made of but I'm telling him right now if it's ermine or rabbit, he's got a problem with PETA. They'll throw red paint on his suit.

And where in New York can he park? Or, in this green era of solar energy, find as many chimneys as he needs? He and his bag of goodies may have to learn to shimmy through glass heat-retaining panels. And, Santa, whatever you do, shut off the cellphone. Shimmying down chimneys while talking on a cell could get you a $100 fine.

Face it, we all know everyone's down on fat people. It's fie on calories, cholesterol and carbs. So, any kiddies out there planning on leaving Santa the usual plate of cookies, forget it. Leave him tofu. Yogurt. Rice cakes. A nice piece of lettuce. We are talking a slimmer, svelter Santa baby. Santa-lite.

Also, no excuse for mistakes anymore. If the little girl down the street wanted twinkly earrings from Judith Ripka and instead got a rag doll, he'll have to report to Human Resources. There's now e-mail and Internet and even if the old guy's on the road he can get her message on his PDA. Can't say anymore he didn't get her letter. Can't blow it anymore.

He also may have a discrimination problem. No more asking the kid on his lap, "Were you a good little girl?" Must now be, "Were you a good little PERSON?" Besides, there are no good little girls today. Today it's Paris, Nicole, Pam, Tara, Lindsay, Britney, Kim.

And gone, gone, GONE must be his famous greeting "Ho, ho, ho." Even if he was sleeping all summer, surely by now he's heard the trouble Imus got in for using that word. Maybe he'll say "Hi, hi, hi" or "Hee, hee, hee." Maybe even "Ha, ha, ha." But "ho" is a no-go.

I think we also have to talk wardrobe. Enough already with that one outfit.