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Guns N' Roses => Dead Horse => Topic started by: PrimaDonna on November 23, 2007, 06:54:41 AM



Title: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: PrimaDonna on November 23, 2007, 06:54:41 AM
Mysteron says the album is handed in. Bumblefoot said the same thing to a fan he met. Dave over at cd.com says the record is not handed in. Glenn, the guy that "regularly" meets Axl says early spring is the earliest possible release date.
Who are we supposed to believe?

Axl said himself that he would update us when recording/mixing/mastering was done. He hasn't done that yet.

So what are we supposed to believe? Realistically?

Is this current silence what we fear: A new long, long wait with no news or information whatsoever?

Someone has to know SOMETHING, right?



Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: KaptainKuntra on November 23, 2007, 07:30:09 AM
I thought the Bumblefoot story wasn't true?


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: GUNNER on November 23, 2007, 07:31:41 AM
Wrong.

Nobody knows... not even Axl, i think...



Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: illusionone on November 23, 2007, 07:32:20 AM
Here's my two cents,

I don't look for signs, rumors, hearsay etc. . . . .

The only time I will put any thought into the release of Chinese Democracy is if Axl comes out and says it publicy. ?Anything other than that is a waste of time as it's alot of this person said this, but he may have meant that . . .

I'll be honest with you - I just stopped caring about 8 years ago. ?If it comes out - that's great - we'll get to hear one hell of an album. If it doesn't, I have shit loads of GN'R's music that I am more than happy listening to.

-illusionone


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: wadey on November 23, 2007, 07:33:42 AM

Someone has to know SOMETHING, right?




people know things, and we will find out in due course......no news is good news ?;)


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: LIGuns on November 23, 2007, 08:00:18 AM
I wouldn't be suprised if Axl released an album and Chinese Democracy became a box set entitled the Chinese Democracy Sessions.


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: LeftToDecay on November 23, 2007, 08:05:41 AM
I believe, very  firmly, that as soon as the album has reached the state where Axl feels he doesn't have to touch&tamper with  it again he will inform media/fans about it instantly. Just to get it off his chest.You know, "Ok! that's it. *I* am done now. When it comes out - not my problem anymore.PHEW."

I don't believe that there is finished and "sealed" CD save  for packaging and printing sitting at record label vaults quietly waiting for some mysterious "right moment" Not without Axl/record label/Someone actually officially announcing it.




Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: D on November 23, 2007, 08:14:58 AM
Lets be honest here


We thought November 2006 was almost  a lock


Axl then writes that letter stating March 2007 and we all go apeshit


The same things are said over and over and over on this forum since 2002

Spring for sure

Well ok, summer definitely

Well........  He is just waiting for the holiday shopping season

2003 repeat

2004 repeat
2005 repeat
2006 repeat

NOW

And I honestly can't believe this

2007 repeat


I thought there was no way in hell we WOULDNT get the album this year


So...................... Do we start the process all over again for 2008?



Sure!!!!! : ok: : ok:


The wait is awesome in my opinion.

Although even I am getting kind of antsy........................


 


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: Sickthings3 on November 23, 2007, 08:27:32 AM

Axl said himself that he would update us when recording/mixing/mastering was done. He hasn't done that yet.



Actually, and I'm sick of people misquoting Axl and his letter, he said that he will notify us when there is another release date.  Here it is:

"Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible."


So, as everyone hates to hear, let's wait and see what will happen next. Even though everyone does not want to believe it, I believe they are working hard to get this out and those "unseen reasons" keep popping up.


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: A Private Eye on November 23, 2007, 08:36:25 AM
Mysteron says the album is handed in.

No he didn't, he said the ball is in the record companies court, and they are holding things up. I think the Ron rumour was false too. There's been nothing to suggest the album has been handed in as of yet.


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: erose on November 23, 2007, 08:38:40 AM
Here's my two cents,

I don't look for signs, rumors, hearsay etc. . . . .

The only time I will put any thought into the release of Chinese Democracy is if Axl comes out and says it publicy.  Anything other than that is a waste of time as it's alot of this person said this, but he may have meant that . . .

I'll be honest with you - I just stopped caring about 8 years ago.  If it comes out - that's great - we'll get to hear one hell of an album. If it doesn't, I have shit loads of GN'R's music that I am more than happy listening to.

-illusionone


WOW, you stopped caring 8 years ago? :hihi:

This whole thing is pretty wierd i tell ya, but i do think that Axl actually wants this thing out which means we'll get to hear it whenever everything is as it should be.

And i don't think that there's musical issues thats holding this back. It's got to be legal shit or mind shit or something to that extent... Thats just my personal opinion tho...


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: remcognr on November 23, 2007, 08:59:59 AM
Glenn, the guy that "regularly" meets Axl says early spring is the earliest possible release date.

who's Glenn? and where does he notifies people about his meetings with Axl?

remco


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: Jim Bob on November 23, 2007, 09:04:40 AM
Glenn, the guy that "regularly" meets Axl says early spring is the earliest possible release date.

who's Glenn? and where does he notifies people about his meetings with Axl?

remco

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Axl-Rose-1189.html

be nice, he gets a lot of shit from gnr fans.   if you are respectful, he is very cool.


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: PrimaDonna on November 23, 2007, 09:09:41 AM
Glenn, the guy that "regularly" meets Axl says early spring is the earliest possible release date.

who's Glenn? and where does he notifies people about his meetings with Axl?

remco

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Axl-Rose-1189.html

be nice, he gets a lot of shit from gnr fans.? ?if you are respectful, he is very cool.


Yeah. Seems like a nice dude. People asks him whether Axl is bald and stuff. LOL. Hilarious.

Glenn answers: "He is not bald, but how complex his hair is, I do not know or can't talk about."


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: ppbebe on November 23, 2007, 09:29:42 AM
Axl said himself that he would update us when recording/mixing/mastering was done. He hasn't done that yet.

No he didn't
he said we would be notified when the release date was fixed. he didn't even say how and by whom we'd be notified. 


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: jaypayton on November 23, 2007, 09:33:35 AM
we have been hearing the album rumors since 1995...its 2008 in two monhts


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: horsey on November 23, 2007, 09:35:03 AM
i have no friggin clue.and it's really getting too much never knowing jack.if it comes out i hope im alive it seems of something in the future,future i don't know really.what a drag that is really.


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: Rockin' Rose on November 23, 2007, 10:16:16 AM
Well Bach said that there is like four albums worth of material, I think it was the N.Y. Times article ('05?) where it was stated that Axl is funding the recordings of his own pocket now and the GH album has made up the 13 or so millions that the record company had invested in CD.

So at the moment they (Axl vs. record company) could be debating about who owns the masters, does the record company own CD and does Axl own the three other cd's and shit like that.

Something is holding CD from not being released but it could be anything really, the whole thing is more complicated than we know.


It ain't coming out this year, that's pretty sure now, so.. maybe next year


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: ppbebe on November 23, 2007, 10:30:09 AM
So the answer is mysteron and bumble.  :yes:

Whos dave? Is he intheknow?


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: jarmo on November 23, 2007, 12:23:17 PM
As far as I remember, Mysteron didn't say the record was handed over to the record company.





/jarmo


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 23, 2007, 01:13:01 PM
The wait is awesome in my opinion.

 ???

Glenn, the guy that "regularly" meets Axl says early spring is the earliest possible release date.

This is the most hopeful scenario.


Title: Re: Let's be realistic everyone!
Post by: TWAT RULES on November 23, 2007, 09:07:55 PM
what are the odds this thing gets released in 08'?  i'd say less than 50%