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Title: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kasanova King on November 18, 2007, 01:56:46 AM
I'm sure this has been posted a dozen times or more but I just wanted to add my 2 cents in....

...what a hell of a song....some of the greatest guitar work with vocal harmonization I'v ever heard! (if that's a word)

Anyway....that song alone warrants a release of the album....10 out of 10....a true classic...


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on November 18, 2007, 02:22:39 AM
Here here :beer:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 18, 2007, 03:25:17 AM
Better and TWAT are the 2 best reasons to release CD IMHO.  Great tune.  I was disappointed to hear the changes they made in the beginning in the latest demo to come out, but still a great song nevertheless.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: von on November 18, 2007, 06:54:24 AM
TWAT, even in the form of various leaked demos, is one of GN'R's best songs, past or present. Take that one to heart : ok:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Wheres Izzy on November 18, 2007, 08:52:10 AM
I would say out of all the new material TWAT is my favorite by a mile. And that's not knocking CITR, blues, Better, etc. it's just that I think TWAT is that great a song.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on November 18, 2007, 09:22:20 AM
Been listening to this song a LOT lately, so it's funny this thread pops up now. The solos in the song...my lord, stunning work.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on November 18, 2007, 09:46:26 AM
Oh no, another There Was a Time appreciation thread...cue my Axl4Prez sob story in 3...2...1..."yes, when I first heard the song, I got teary-eyed." 

It's that good.  The fact that this is only a demo means the song, a classic already, will be unstoppable in final form.  I can't wait!!!!  Okay, I have and I can...but I'm looking forward to that eventual Tuesday.
 :peace:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: mesha on November 18, 2007, 09:48:35 AM
fantastic song and shows that this band is capable of continueing the name


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jaci_Roxx on November 18, 2007, 01:59:04 PM
That song hits me hard.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bandita on November 18, 2007, 02:30:00 PM
This is my absolute favorite song of all the new ones.  Lyrically, musically it is just awesome. : ok:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: mrbucketfoot on November 18, 2007, 03:14:24 PM
The lyrics are really great and the solo is just amazing, however I thought the latest (unfinished) version wasn't as good as earlier ones. I'm sure the final mix will be great though.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: guscouto on November 18, 2007, 03:24:49 PM
Great great song...
solos are amazing...
rythm is amazing...
Axl's screams in the end are incredible...

Best new song in my opinion... I think it should be ChiDem's last track...


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: jordinho on November 18, 2007, 04:31:02 PM
A perfect track to end an album. Mostly because it's so great it would be almost impossible to follow. I always have trouble thinking of a song to listen to after listening to it.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: estebanf on November 18, 2007, 04:43:56 PM
This is my absolute favorite song of all the new ones.  Lyrically, musically it is just awesome. : ok:

You may say I'm too much obsessed with the current GNR lineup, but I must say that TWAT is not for me only the best of the new GNR songs, but also the best of them all, all GNR song catalogue. I think it's definitely a masterpiece, and the extended instrumental outro is one of the best pieces of music I've ever heard.

To add something more, I must also say that 5 of the new songs, in this order:

1) TWAT 2) CD 3) Madagascar 4) The Blues 5) Better

are in my all time top 10 GNR songs. Cant wait to hear the final versions  :peace:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on November 18, 2007, 05:10:57 PM
whats wrong with the intro?

i like how it kinda sounds like they recorded that lil' bit in a rain forest when the birds are cherping, i think thats a plus imo. Like they're "returning to the jungle" if you will ;D


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: *Timothy* on November 20, 2007, 12:55:58 AM
Hands down my favorite of what we have heard . The song  gives off that epic guns vibe , ala NR and estranged.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Dog on November 20, 2007, 01:01:35 AM
Hands down my favorite of what we have heard . The song  gives off that epic guns vibe , ala NR and estranged.

when i first heard this song it reminded me of estranged right away.

easily the best song of all the new ones thus far.  the other ones just don't stand up as well over time.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Alex R Wos on November 21, 2007, 02:50:52 AM
I have to agree with what everyone else is saying here. The first time I downloaded it I listened to it about 40 times in one day. I do like the older (but not the oldest) demo the most, but regardless of incarnation, it is a great tune  :love: : ok:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: grog mug on November 21, 2007, 03:23:02 AM
I like the fanmade "angel" sound TWAT that was going around, instead of the newest Pitman one.  LOVE the song though, and it should be on the album!


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: gnrjanus on November 21, 2007, 06:01:49 AM
it's a good song, but as said it's not the final, and I can see why.

for one, it's damn chaotic!
all the instruments are at wrong places making a big blur.



Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: gunns1 on November 21, 2007, 06:51:21 AM
I like the fanmade "angel" sound TWAT that was going around, instead of the newest Pitman one.? LOVE the song though, and it should be on the album!

I havent heard that one,
although It intrigues me...

The very first time I heard this song,
I loved HOW axl sang the lyrics...,

Whenever I hear new gnr songs, or new songs for that matter, I listen to the way the singer sings the songs, before I listen to the words,

I loved how axl makes the last line of each verse flow to the next line

eg, "Broken glass and ciggarettes, writing on the Wall"
       " It was a bargain for the summer and I thought I had it all"

Beautiful work...

I love the drum fills,
everything, the breakdowns, although Sometimes towards the end of the song , I think bucket looses a bit of direction,
But I think it will be fixed like the poster above me said, when Everything is clearer and mixed properly...
Because everything seems to be recorded at the same level sometimes...

Great fucking song nontheless. :beer:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: AbominableHoman on November 22, 2007, 05:20:16 PM
Beautiful song. Almost has a movie soundtrack vibe to it, but I certainly was not let down when I first heard it. I think it has potential to have an awesome Video. Listen to it often, and got my brother addicted to it too.  : ok:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 22, 2007, 06:06:19 PM
Oh no, another There Was a Time appreciation thread...cue my Axl4Prez sob story in 3...2...1..."yes, when I first heard the song, I got teary-eyed."?

Don't worry dude, I still get teary-eyed listening to There Was A Time ;)






Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: seely on November 25, 2007, 08:28:09 AM
TWAT, even in the form of various leaked demos, is one of GN'R's best songs, past or present. Take that one to heart : ok:

Yep, I think TWAT is probably gonna be GN'Rs best song when (if) it's finally released, it'll even top my favourite power-ballad of all time: 'Estranged'!!!

Come on Axl, release the bloody album!!!!!!!!!!!  :rant:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: rockNroses on November 26, 2007, 06:00:10 PM
Some thoughts on TWAT can be found here:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=48945.msg1001097#msg1001097


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on November 27, 2007, 03:54:25 PM
Always liked the song and appreciate very much the guitar work, BUT, when you listen to the tune, it just never seems to flow for me, untill the guitar solos start coming in. The whole melody up untill that point, just doesn't do it for me. That being said, however, once the first chorus comes in of " Yeah, there was a time, ..... "   I find that part pure gold and the rest of the song untill the end is fantastic


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on November 27, 2007, 04:43:09 PM
Always liked the song and appreciate very much the guitar work, BUT, when you listen to the tune, it just never seems to flow for me, untill the guitar solos start coming in. The whole melody up untill that point, just doesn't do it for me. That being said, however, once the first chorus comes in of " Yeah, there was a time, ..... "   I find that part pure gold and the rest of the song untill the end is fantastic


I'm pretty sure most folks get it from the beginning...this is one hell of a song.  It still gives me chills.  That choir-like intro. is absolutely killer.  The old band gave us Estranged...now the new band There Was a Time.  I am a very happy man.   :peace: 

Thanks Stoned, I'm not alone...but if you're "Stoned," could it be glassy-eyed instead of teary-eyed?   :hihi:

I'd pay anything for an official video of this tune.   :yes:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Voodoochild on November 28, 2007, 09:45:26 AM
I love the song, but I don't think it has anything in common with Estranged besides the outstanding quality.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: loosecannon3 on November 28, 2007, 03:05:04 PM
I like the song, but do people really like the Chorus part of the song?

It was a long time with you,
it was a long time with me,
it'd be a long time for anyone,
but looks like it's meant to be.

I think it's not catchy at all and it just sounds like noise.  I also think Axl's singing is better on songs like Better or Madagascar.

I think the song could be much better.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 19, 2007, 02:40:04 PM
I like the song, but do people really like the Chorus part of the song?

It was a long time with you,
it was a long time with me,
it'd be a long time for anyone,
but looks like it's meant to be.

I think it's not catchy at all and it just sounds like noise.? I also think Axl's singing is better on songs like Better or Madagascar.

I think the song could be much better.

No, I was not talking about this chorus - I dislike this actually

I was talking about the  " Yeah, there was a time / Do you want to know it all..... part


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Ali on December 19, 2007, 02:47:23 PM
I like the chorus a lot with the heavy pounding guitars in the newest leaked version of the song.

Ali


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bandita on December 19, 2007, 02:59:29 PM
I still stand by the fact I think this is the most amazing of the new songs.  I can't wait to hear the band do this one live.

Ali, I agree with the chorus, it fits fine.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Alpachiris on December 19, 2007, 03:13:19 PM
Some thoughts on TWAT can be found here:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=48945.msg1001097#msg1001097

uhh! thanks!


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: bigblue88112 on December 19, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
Honestly I feel that TWAT is as close to perfection as you can get.  Every time I listen to it I'm so blinded by its majestic awesomeness that I'm unable to remain objective.  The prospect of the studio version is what keeps me optimistic.

A perfect track to end an album. Mostly because it's so great it would be almost impossible to follow. I always have trouble thinking of a song to listen to after listening to it.

The couple of times I've burned myself a CD with the leaks for the car I always made TWAT last.  It's so epic that it's impossible for any song to follow in my mind.  Just as Chinese Democracy must be the opening track, TWAT serves as the perfect culmination of the record.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: mrbucketfoot on December 19, 2007, 04:29:56 PM
Of all the new material that we've heard, I've always thought that 'There Was A Time' had great single potential.
There's a lot of good stuff in it but then again it's pretty long and more of a sappy song than a rocker like 'Chinese Democracy', 'Better', or 'IRS'.

Most of the non-Guns fans that I've played tracks to prefer 'Better' and 'The Blues' over all the other stuff.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 19, 2007, 04:42:30 PM
Honestly I feel that TWAT is as close to perfection as you can get.? Every time I listen to it I'm so blinded by its majestic awesomeness that I'm unable to remain objective.? The prospect of the studio version is what keeps me optimistic.

A perfect track to end an album. Mostly because it's so great it would be almost impossible to follow. I always have trouble thinking of a song to listen to after listening to it.

The couple of times I've burned myself a CD with the leaks for the car I always made TWAT last.? It's so epic that it's impossible for any song to follow in my mind.? Just as Chinese Democracy must be the opening track, TWAT serves as the perfect culmination of the record.

It is pretty cool the way it ends. I always have started any CD with Better, It's just a good way to get things going


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Vitor_Icewall on December 19, 2007, 08:12:34 PM
yeah! amazing song like the orthers new song!


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: bigblue88112 on December 19, 2007, 08:21:19 PM
It is pretty cool the way it ends. I always have started any CD with Better, It's just a good way to get things going

I know what you're saying and would not be disappointed in the slightest if they choose Better for the opening song.  I just get that "Axl's back" vibe from Chinese Democracy with the slow build-up into the scream.

And, for the sake of staying on topic, TWAT is the awesome.  8)


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stewie Griffin on December 19, 2007, 09:00:57 PM

Most of the non-Guns fans that I've played tracks to prefer 'Better' and 'The Blues' over all the other stuff.

Really? My friends, somewhat "sort of" Guns fans, prefer TWAT over the others, and I myself prefer Better.

But I will admit TWAT is an explosively great song, and I have to crank up the volume on my computer every time I play it. The guitars in it are just amazing.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: russtcb on December 20, 2007, 08:58:08 AM
I like the song, but do people really like the Chorus part of the song?

It was a long time with you,
it was a long time with me,
it'd be a long time for anyone,
but looks like it's meant to be.

I think it's not catchy at all and it just sounds like noise.  I also think Axl's singing is better on songs like Better or Madagascar.

I think the song could be much better.

I don't know why, but that part has really grown on me over the last year or so. Gets stuck in my head very easily.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 21, 2007, 10:38:14 AM
I think T.W.A.T is a pretty good song, but I think Madagascar is a future classic! It's kinda like a modern Kashmir :)

Madagascar definitely has the epic-Zeppelin vibe to it, but remove the 2 minutes at the movies and I think you can seriously discuss this song along those lines


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 21, 2007, 10:38:53 AM
It is pretty cool the way it ends. I always have started any CD with Better, It's just a good way to get things going

I know what you're saying and would not be disappointed in the slightest if they choose Better for the opening song.? I just get that "Axl's back" vibe from Chinese Democracy with the slow build-up into the scream.



Yeah, I can't really argue with that, my friend


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: DemocracyRose on December 21, 2007, 04:28:12 PM
Its simply a genius song and I cant wait to hear the final version. It kind of remind me of a Pink Floyd song with the long solos and stuff. Then again it also remind me of Breakdown, especially this chorus, If there's something I can make of this,or anything at all, it'd be the devil hates a loser and you thought you had it all. :-*

Fantastic song... : ok:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: von on December 21, 2007, 05:21:12 PM
I think T.W.A.T is a pretty good song, but I think Madagascar is a future classic! It's kinda like a modern Kashmir :)

Madagascar definitely has the epic-Zeppelin vibe to it, but remove the 2 minutes at the movies and I think you can seriously discuss this song along those lines

But Bucket's solo under those sound bites is flawless. You can't risk losing that.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 22, 2007, 03:42:16 PM
I think T.W.A.T is a pretty good song, but I think Madagascar is a future classic! It's kinda like a modern Kashmir :)

Madagascar definitely has the epic-Zeppelin vibe to it, but remove the 2 minutes at the movies and I think you can seriously discuss this song along those lines

But Bucket's solo under those sound bites is flawless. You can't risk losing that.

It's a terrific solo, but it is completely phased out by the trip to the theatres. If the solo was left and the movies were either removed or just playing in the backround very lowly, then the song as we know it had the chance to be the Kasmir of this decade as someone mentioned earlier -


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: gunns1 on December 23, 2007, 03:59:00 AM
I think T.W.A.T is a pretty good song, but I think Madagascar is a future classic! It's kinda like a modern Kashmir :)

Madagascar definitely has the epic-Zeppelin vibe to it, but remove the 2 minutes at the movies and I think you can seriously discuss this song along those lines

But Bucket's solo under those sound bites is flawless. You can't risk losing that.

It's a terrific solo, but it is completely phased out by the trip to the theatres. If the solo was left and the movies were either removed or just playing in the backround very lowly, then the song as we know it had the chance to be the Kasmir of this decade as someone mentioned earlier -

I love madagascar,
but as much as i love it in its current form,
I would of loved it so much better (10x more) if axl either wrote more lyrics to be replaced by the "spoken word' part,
Or like the poster above me said, Just have buckets solo go on and build up into excitement as the song progresses (kinda like twat)
In my opinon The spoken word with MLK etc kinda seems like a CUT - and - Paste job,
as it seems a bit sloppy and like any voice was just thrown in anywhere,

Whenever i listen to madagascar leak, i always just skip the spoken word caus ive heard it too many times, and its kinda lossed a fair bit of meaning ,
Its a shame really, because its going to be the same on chinese democracy, considering they havent changed the song  for 7 years now... (unlike the other new songs ,eg blues etc)


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: GnR-NOW on December 23, 2007, 09:16:50 AM
TWAT is one of the most epic GNR songs ever.  I wish they played it as a regular on the 06 tour.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: slashisvr on December 23, 2007, 10:26:32 AM
a little off topic, but its reminds me of me and this girl

the lines "yeah there was a time, i didnt wana know at all, didnt wana know at all, and i dont wana know it now"

i was seeing this girl, who i wasnt intrested in, and was just using for sex (hence the line "there was a time i didnt wana know at all"), but she was like in love with me, and after a while, i started to have feelings for her, and we went out for over 18months, and then i just didbnt want to know again

everytime i hear that song, especially those lines, makes me think of that relationship, and i actually text her after i finnished her and said those lines at the top of my reply, and she just reply with "oh"  :rofl:


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: russtcb on December 23, 2007, 10:43:31 AM
TWAT is one of the most epic GNR songs ever.  I wish they played it as a regular on the 06 tour.

I cannot agree more. I was at the first Hammerstein show and was lucky enough to hear it performed live, I certainly hope it gets played more when more shows happen. I absolutely loved hearing it live.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: daviebuckethead on December 23, 2007, 12:41:15 PM

I would of loved it so much better (10x more) if axl either wrote more lyrics to be replaced by the "spoken word' part,
Or like the poster above me said, Just have buckets solo go on and build up into excitement as the song progresses (kinda like twat)
In my opinon The spoken word with MLK etc kinda seems like a CUT - and - Paste job,
as it seems a bit sloppy and like any voice was just thrown in anywhere,


it probably is/was a cut and past job at the time. i'm sure on the album it'll sound more together.


Title: Re: There Was A Time Appreciation Thread
Post by: seely on December 29, 2007, 02:57:24 PM
To me, it's an absolutely fantastic song in every sense of the word- brilliant, heart-felt lyrics, great gmelodies, fantastic guitar riffs, it's GOT IT ALL

If the finished version is a good as these leaks, then it could even top 'estranged' to become my all time favourite GN'R track!!!