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Title: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: jaypayton on November 15, 2007, 12:53:32 PM
It seems this guy imitates everyone....When STP started he was blatantly ripping off Eddie Vedder.....He sounded exactly like him.....Then around that same time he says in an interview how much he loves Faith No More and coincidently he started dressing exactly like Mike Patton, same exact hair style and goatee and everything....Then came the Jim Morrison imitations....Now he wants to be 1987 Axl with his leather pants and doing his serpentine.....Weiland is the worlds greatest imitator


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: CheapJon on November 15, 2007, 01:07:22 PM
no he aint good at imitating at all :hihi:


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Kasanova King on November 15, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
Scott Weilend is no Axl Rose....he's alright for STP but not for G N' R.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Bobarcord on November 15, 2007, 02:27:28 PM
Scotts a good front man. And I do think he has his own Identity. 


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: JAC185 on November 15, 2007, 02:33:39 PM
If Scott's an impersonator. He's a terrible one. I can identify his voice straight off on a song. I can certainly recognise his dancing  :rofl:

He can do a killer Morrison though (see him performing with The Doors on that VH1 Special thing)


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Smoking Guns on November 15, 2007, 05:59:10 PM
Scott is a copy of a lot of singers, just like Finck is a copy of a lot of players. 

Does Finck = Weiland?

Some love Finck... Some love Weiland.

Interesting.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: CheapJon on November 15, 2007, 06:59:06 PM
Scott is a copy of a lot of singers, just like Finck is a copy of a lot of players.?

Does Finck = Weiland?

Some love Finck... Some love Weiland.

Interesting.

why bring finck up in this section?

btw, finck isn't a copy, he's unique (and so are duff n' slash, but there's hundreds of drummers like matt sorum and hundreds of singers like weiland) :yes:


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 15, 2007, 07:15:35 PM
but there's hundreds of drummers like matt sorum

Say it isn't so.. :nervous:


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Jim Bob on November 15, 2007, 07:37:08 PM
Scott is a copy of a lot of singers, just like Finck is a copy of a lot of players. 

Does Finck = Weiland?

Some love Finck... Some love Weiland.

Interesting.

what the fuck does Finck have to do with this topic?   any excuse to bash the guy right?

and as a matter of fact, no.  Robin Finck is one of the most unique guitar players I've ever seen.  His tone is instantly recognizable and his stage presence is something I've never seen anywhere else.


BACK ON TOPIC

Weiland is pretty much a fraud.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Bobarcord on November 15, 2007, 07:42:18 PM
Jim Bod I agree with you on Fink ... But I have to strongle disagree with about Scott. But to each their own..


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Smoking Guns on November 15, 2007, 07:42:30 PM
ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I brought up finck just to mess with jim bob! ?ha, i was being sarcastic.. ?hahahaha



Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: estebanf on November 15, 2007, 07:58:30 PM
Then came the Jim Morrison imitations....

I've had the oportunity to attend a VR show this year, in Buenos Aires.

The show itself was very boring and flat, but damn... the two parts where he imitates Morrison (the first, in ''Sex Type Thing'', the second, in the middle of ''Slither'') kills all the climax.

Scott is a copy of a lot of singers, just like Finck is a copy of a lot of players. 

Does Finck = Weiland?

Some love Finck... Some love Weiland.

Interesting.

Dont know what the hell does Finck have to do with this discussion, but all I can say is Robin has a very unique style, and no one thinks about another person when you see him playing live. When you see Weiland, you think inmediatly in a very devaluated Eddie Vedder, or in the best case, a Jim Morrison wannabe.

Putting Weiland in the same sentence with big names like Vedder or Morrison is already an insult IMHO


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Jim Bob on November 15, 2007, 08:02:54 PM
Jim Bod I agree with you on Fink ... But I have to strongle disagree with about Scott. But to each their own..


ok maybe fraud is harsh (although Slash may disagree).. but i don't think he is anything unique.   he is good at what he does.   he'll be remembered as a good frontman.  but not in the same league as his influences.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Bobarcord on November 15, 2007, 10:56:33 PM
Jim Bod I agree with you on Fink ... But I have to strongle disagree with about Scott. But to each their own..


ok maybe fraud is harsh (although Slash may disagree).. but i don't think he is anything unique.   he is good at what he does.   he'll be remembered as a good frontman.  but not in the same league as his influences.


True.

Scoot seemed to be better in STP then he is in VR I wish they had went with Josh Todd. I like Scott, But Todd would have been better suited in VR then Scott.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Jim Bob on November 15, 2007, 10:58:39 PM
Jim Bod I agree with you on Fink ... But I have to strongle disagree with about Scott. But to each their own..


ok maybe fraud is harsh (although Slash may disagree).. but i don't think he is anything unique.   he is good at what he does.   he'll be remembered as a good frontman.  but not in the same league as his influences.


True.

Scoot seemed to be better in STP then he is in VR I wish they had went with Josh Todd. I like Scott, But Todd would have been better suited in VR then Scott.

well Buckcherry is a better band than VR, so I agree.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Kasanova King on November 15, 2007, 11:58:27 PM
Jim Bod I agree with you on Fink ... But I have to strongle disagree with about Scott. But to each their own..


ok maybe fraud is harsh (although Slash may disagree).. but i don't think he is anything unique.? ?he is good at what he does.? ?he'll be remembered as a good frontman.? but not in the same league as his influences.


True.

Scoot seemed to be better in STP then he is in VR I wish they had went with Josh Todd. I like Scott, But Todd would have been better suited in VR then Scott.

well Buckcherry is a better band than VR, so I agree.

I can see your a Finck fan from you avatar so please don't take what I'm about to say personally.  Although I think it would be disrespectful to call Finck a "copycat" b/c he is a talented guitar player in his own right but what do you call a guy that looked like a vampire 5 years ago when Axl wanted to have that "freakshow" image and now looks like a "classic/bluesy" style of guitarist???  The guy is a good guitarist (not great) and essentially an employee of Axl Rose.  He's loyal to his boss and will do/copy anything Axl tells him to do....I mean there's nothing wrong with that, I really don't think he has any other choice. 


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Jim Bob on November 16, 2007, 12:03:31 AM
Jim Bod I agree with you on Fink ... But I have to strongle disagree with about Scott. But to each their own..


ok maybe fraud is harsh (although Slash may disagree).. but i don't think he is anything unique.   he is good at what he does.   he'll be remembered as a good frontman.  but not in the same league as his influences.


True.

Scoot seemed to be better in STP then he is in VR I wish they had went with Josh Todd. I like Scott, But Todd would have been better suited in VR then Scott.

well Buckcherry is a better band than VR, so I agree.

I can see your a Finck fan from you avatar so please don't take what I'm about to say personally.  Although I think it would be disrespectful to call Finck a "copycat" b/c he is a talented guitar player in his own right but what do you call a guy that looked like a vampire 5 years ago when Axl wanted to have that "freakshow" image and now looks like a "classic/bluesy" style of guitarist???  The guy is a good guitarist (not great) and essentially an employee of Axl Rose.  He's loyal to his boss and will do/copy anything Axl tells him to do....I mean there's nothing wrong with that, I really don't think he has any other choice. 

he's the lead guitarist in Guns N' Roses.  He's not a fucking employee.

and if you knew anything about Robin, you'd know that he's been constantly changing his look even before he was in GnR.    To state that Axl tells him what to look like as if its a fact is pretty fucking stupid. 


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Ali on November 16, 2007, 12:12:50 AM
Jim Bod I agree with you on Fink ... But I have to strongle disagree with about Scott. But to each their own..


ok maybe fraud is harsh (although Slash may disagree).. but i don't think he is anything unique.? ?he is good at what he does.? ?he'll be remembered as a good frontman.? but not in the same league as his influences.


True.

Scoot seemed to be better in STP then he is in VR I wish they had went with Josh Todd. I like Scott, But Todd would have been better suited in VR then Scott.

well Buckcherry is a better band than VR, so I agree.

I can see your a Finck fan from you avatar so please don't take what I'm about to say personally.? Although I think it would be disrespectful to call Finck a "copycat" b/c he is a talented guitar player in his own right but what do you call a guy that looked like a vampire 5 years ago when Axl wanted to have that "freakshow" image and now looks like a "classic/bluesy" style of guitarist???? The guy is a good guitarist (not great) and essentially an employee of Axl Rose.? He's loyal to his boss and will do/copy anything Axl tells him to do....I mean there's nothing wrong with that, I really don't think he has any other choice.?

Are you serious?

Do you have any idea of Robin's history?  He has always been changing his look, since before he was in GN'R.  He does not do whatever Axl tells him to do, he doesn't copy, or need to copy, anyone.

The whole band brought in their styles into GN'R and haven't changed for the sake of GN'R. 

Next time, get more informed before stating something so ridiculous.

Ali


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Jim Bob on November 16, 2007, 12:19:04 AM
he's one of those fans of the old band who hasn't taken the time to actually to get some knowledge on the newer bandmembers because he's closed minded and doesn't care about them.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Smoking Guns on November 16, 2007, 12:35:21 AM
He changes styles a lot.  He changes styles in his playing a lot.  He is what he is. 


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Ali on November 16, 2007, 12:37:12 AM
He changes styles a lot.? He changes styles in his playing a lot.? He is what he is.?

Yeah, but he's always done that.  Going from Impotent Sea Snakes to NIN to GN'R.  He doesn't change his style because Axl tells him to.

Ali


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Smoking Guns on November 16, 2007, 01:29:30 AM
I agree, I wasn't saying that ali.  He is a camelion or whatever.  He played in the impotent sea snakes?  Never knew that?!?!?!


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Jim Bob on November 16, 2007, 01:55:13 AM
the topic is SCOTT WEILAND. 


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: elmir on November 16, 2007, 02:56:44 AM
essentially an employee of Axl Rose.  He's loyal to his boss and will do/copy anything Axl tells him to do...., I really don't think he has any other choice. 

that was not a nice thing to say about a guy who has done his best to stay true to himself, his art, his talent, and his fans.
not nice at all.

Robin is probably the best member of the band Axl has ever had the pleasure of working with.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: wink on November 16, 2007, 01:27:33 PM
I think Scott tries too hard  :-X


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: JDA on November 16, 2007, 04:40:21 PM
It seems this guy imitates everyone....When STP started he was blatantly ripping off Eddie Vedder.....He sounded exactly like him.....Then around that same time he says in an interview how much he loves Faith No More and coincidently he started dressing exactly like Mike Patton, same exact hair style and goatee and everything....Then came the Jim Morrison imitations....Now he wants to be 1987 Axl with his leather pants and doing his serpentine.....Weiland is the worlds greatest imitator

Dumb thread.  Scott's a very good entertainer with his own identity.  This is a pretty old argument.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: noGnoG on November 16, 2007, 05:21:22 PM
Scott hasd his own identity: it's a combination of being ridiculous and over the top. It all tastes like fake and studied. No emotion. And to be honest, it's better that it's fake, if it would have been real...


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: deliverthecow on November 17, 2007, 12:45:36 PM
he's one of those fans of the old band who hasn't taken the time to actually to get some knowledge on the newer bandmembers because he's closed minded and doesn't care about them.



You guys (Axl fans) bring all of that stuff onto yourself. A great example is the topic of this thread. It is just to antagonize VR fans. that is all it is about. Then certain others chime in and add fuel to the fire. What if a VR fan would go into the Guns section and start a post "Is Axl Rose every gonna get his head out of his ass and release CD"?? Yes i know it is a Guns n Roses board, etc,etc but this is the VR section and the same rules that apply in all of the other sections should apply to this one, if that isnt the case take the Velvet Revolver section down. It is old all of this VR fans vs. Axl fans. Alot of VR fans like Axl and his new band, but some of you Guns fans entice all of this "Us vs. them" sort of mentality. It just isnt cool.

Scott Weiland has had his own style , the only album they (STP) that he remotely sounded like anyone else was there debut, a few tracks Scott sounded like Eddie Vedder. After that release he was all over the place.

this thread is asinine to say the least.


Title: Re: Can Scott Weiland develop his own identity???
Post by: Ali on November 17, 2007, 03:31:25 PM
he's one of those fans of the old band who hasn't taken the time to actually to get some knowledge on the newer bandmembers because he's closed minded and doesn't care about them.



You guys (Axl fans) bring all of that stuff onto yourself. A great example is the topic of this thread. It is just to antagonize VR fans. that is all it is about. Then certain others chime in and add fuel to the fire. What if a VR fan would go into the Guns section and start a post "Is Axl Rose every gonna get his head out of his ass and release CD"?? Yes i know it is a Guns n Roses board, etc,etc but this is the VR section and the same rules that apply in all of the other sections should apply to this one, if that isnt the case take the Velvet Revolver section down. It is old all of this VR fans vs. Axl fans. Alot of VR fans like Axl and his new band, but some of you Guns fans entice all of this "Us vs. them" sort of mentality. It just isnt cool.

Scott Weiland has had his own style , the only album they (STP) that he remotely sounded like anyone else was there debut, a few tracks Scott sounded like Eddie Vedder. After that release he was all over the place.

this thread is asinine to say the least.

While this thread may be divisive, and I don't despute that, the questions of whether or not Scott Weiland has a unique identity have existed since STP broke in the early 90's.

Ali