Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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Jesse Capps of RockConfidential.com recently conducted an interview with former SKID ROW singer Sebastian Bach. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:

RockConfidential.com: It's been a few years since we've got to hear a true Sebastian Bach CD. It's got to feel good knowing that "Angel Down" is just around the corner.

Bach: "Absolutely! I've been working on 'Angel Down' for seven years. I did a record in 2005 that was under the radar called 'Absence of Apathy' for a project called FRAMESHIFT II. The first FRAMESHIFT project featured James LaBrie from DREAM THEATER. It's progressive metal and it may as well have been called a Sebastian Bach record. I co-wrote seven songs on that record. Metal Edge named it one of the top metal records of 2005. 'Angel Down' is more what you'd expect from me. It's hard-ass rock that is fun and real energetic. If you dig metal screams you will definitely dig 'Angel Down'! I made sure there were lots of screams on the record."

RockConfidential.com: Since you spent seven years working on "Angel Down", what's the oldest track on the record?

Bach: "The oldest track is the last track that I wrote with Desmond Child, 'Falling Into You'. Funnily enough, that was 100% Jason Flom again. When I was in the 'Jekyll and Hyde' musical, the big show stopper song was 'This Is The Moment'. It's a soaring, long, clear ballad kinda along the lines of 'I Remember You'. Jason came backstage and told me he wanted me to write a song with Desmond Child. I said, 'Killer! Do it!' Atlantic Records sent me down to Desmond's house. I stood there in front of the piano and we both wrote 'Falling Into You'. It's the first piano ballad that I've ever had on the record. There's a lot of ear candy on the record, too. There are things you won't hear until you hear it 20 fucking times! There's stuff buried back in the mix and I dig shit like that."

RockConfidential.com: You [and Axl Rose] are like partners in crime. You went out on the road together, you got him in the studio. I guess you have a good time with Axl.

Bach: "I spent a better part of a year on the road with him getting fucking crazy! Axl is like a one-man LED ZEPPELIN. You wanna talk about partying 'til 2PM the next afternoon and showing people how it's done! This motherfucker is like Jack Nicholson on the microphone. I don't even know what the fuck that means! We had AVENGED SEVENFOLD out with us and they're a great band. We were in Europe. We'd do a show at the arena and Axl would go on around midnight. Then he'd go and rent out a club starting at like 5AM every fucking day! I don't know how he found those places! I was like, 'Where the fuck are we going to go at 5AM in Prague, Czechoslovakia?' Sure enough, he gets a club as the sun is coming up and our buses roll in. We stumble up these stairs as the sun is shining in and he says, 'Time to start the party!' I can't even begin to describe that tour. The AVENGED SEVENFOLD guys did their best, bless their hearts. They're a little younger than us! The drummer was the last one standing in that band and he's a fucking alcoholic! He reminded me a lot of Duff McKagan from the 'Use Your Illusion' tour. The way he walked, talked and the way he slurred every other word. I love the guy!"


Read the entire interview at RockConfidential.com.

We'd do a show at the arena and Axl would go on around midnight. Then he'd go and rent out a club starting at like 5AM every fucking day! I don't know how he found those places! I was like, 'Where the fuck are we going to go at 5AM in Prague, Czechoslovakia?' Sure enough, he gets a club as the sun is coming up and our buses roll in. We stumble up these stairs as the sun is shining in and he says, 'Time to start the party!' I can't even begin to describe that tour. The AVENGED SEVENFOLD guys did their best, bless their hearts. They're a little younger than us!

Now, I am younger than Axl and there is no freakin way in the world I could start partying at 5 AM. Chances are they were already partying and just continued to party. I wonder how he does it? Even with the rush from the show, eventually you come down and usually dead tired. Party on Axl! Wish I had your stamina.

Why do you think he goes on at midnight?  That's how he does it.  He sleeps up until a half hour before stage time. :hihi:

someone tell Baz its not 1987 on the sunset strip anymore

Funny, but actually probably true. 

"This motherfucker is like Jack Nicholson on the microphone. I don't even know what the fuck that means"

Haha. Baz is so fucking funny. I was thinking "dude what is he talking about?" and then, lol, he admits he has no idea either. Lol. He's so funny!

What kinda comment's that? He's just describing the partying the band did, and he happens to be really enthusiastic about it, because it's Sebastian fucking Bach. It's the way he is dude. Where the fuck do you party? Starbucks?

So he was asleep all those times when I've seen him on stage at 7 or 8PM?

Not to mention the fact that you first have to transport yourself to the venue somehow.....

I guess you'll explain it with "sleep walking".  :hihi:



I'd say your guess is wrong.




/jarmo

No, but I would guess that he sleeps till 4 or 5pm many times.  If your party starts at 5am and you've also been known to be a night owl and even do some recording in your studio all night long till around 8am or so.  I think it's a safe bet to say that he is on a different time table than the average person.  Nothing wrong with that at all either, I'm just saying, that is how he can party at 5am. 

Thanks for setting the record straight Jarmo.  We can't allow the preposterous accusations to be circulated.

Are you gonna guess when Axl sleeps too, funny guy?  ::)





/jarmo

you saw axl onstage at 7pm? you can't honestly assert that that is normal or even close to normal. that has probably happened once or twice, most likely as a result of jetlag and axl being confused as to what time it was, or, perhaps, a venue curfew

It happened at every show in Japan. Five times!


They were also on at around 8PM at some shows in Europe in 2006.

I personally saw them in Dublin and at Download when this happened. In fact, I believe they went on before the announced time at Download. 



So next time you went to be in bed by 11PM, go see them in Japan.  : ok:




/jarmo

indeed they were on 10 minutes early at donnington, forcing the previous band to finish their set early.

I would never pretend to be Axl's lap dog.

I didn't ask you what you would pretend now did I?

I really don't care what you like to pretend to be. And neither does the rest of the board. I'm sure they have other sites for that though.

So take it somewhere else.





/jarmo

Listen, I like Baz's enthusiasm for music...and I dig that he seems to have gotten Axl to be out and about again but its enough with the whole 'we party til 5am and we drink etc etc' in every single interview.....Baz wished it was 1986 on the sunset strip in his leather pants and hairspray all over again.....the whole party like a rockstar stay up all night, sex drugs rock and roll, motley crue, motorcycle riding, leather pants rock star shit died out in 1989 when bands like faith no more, nirvana, pantera and the chili peppers killed it...and no matter what Baz tries to do it will never come back....

Well, I suppose if they are out partying all night, then it never went away.

lots of people drink and party till 5am quite often.. its not that uncommon. you should try it sometime, its fun.  :beer:

So what you're saying is Bach should've started hating his life and stopped partying because of Nirvana?  Very cool way of thinking  ::)

I don't think he's exactly trying to live like it's 1987. ?That's the lifestyle he knows. ?He's a rockstar. ?Rockstars stay up late, party till dawn, drink a lot. ?Hell I do that stuff, and I'm not even a rockstar. ?Cut the man some slack.

So just because we had a period in the early 90's when it was cool to stare at your shoes while playing music on stage, and loathe success and money they should stop partying?

DON'T KNOCK IT , TILL YA TRY IT  !

Hehe. Exactly.

London, New York, Tokyo etc.... All those places think it's 1986?  :hihi:



I don't understand why you seem so upset.

So they occasionally went to some clubs after the shows.


I guess it's mentioned somewhere in the "Rock N' Roll rule book" that since 1991 you're not allowed to do that.  :hihi:





/jarmo

I think people just wish the were parting all night too.


I want to party all night and everyday.....

i never bought into the 'i hate my life' stuff Nirvana was about..and the fact is the Chili Peppers did as much partying as GNR ever did but they werent about that whole leather pants rock n roll lifestyle..that cliche got old very fast.....bands like faith no more, the beastie boys, nirvana and the chili peppers helped killoff the leather pants rocker (poison, motley crue, whitesnake, ratt, etc) the glam needed to die a miserable death and it did......and Baz trying to bring it back isnt gonna help him get any musical credibility....we are the youth gone wild is old news

Maybe you would rather just keep rollin.... rollinnnnn.

According to whatever radio station my little sister listens to, it sounds like even bad hip-hop, ironically, wants to "party like a rockstar."

I can't imagine how i'd party if i was not only a millionaire but also one of the last true rockstars capable of it.
Good for Axl.

I don't know what the big deal is about.  I've been partying to way past 5 am since I've been 15 yearsold....I'm 31 now and I still do it at least 3 or 4 times a month.  What you people don't understand is that it's a lifestyle.  Some people like to wake up at 6 am...when I party that's when I'm on my 12th drink....lmao....

I'm not saying it's anything to be proud of or that it's the way people should act....it's just the way I am and the way I've always been.

Grown ups stay up late, some party like animals, some just stay up late and are social. Big deal.

That is pretty funny.  :hihi:

He said a lot of funny shit in that interview, this was my favorite:

YOU GOTTA FIGHT, FOR YOUR RIGHT, TO PARTYYYYYYYYYY...  :rofl:

You gotta try it at some point... The whole "party" thing I mean... It's fun. You might stop whining...

A lot of people do party till 5am, but Bach states that Axl's party start at 5 am. 

If you're partying between 5 am to 2 pm, and you're on stage at 7:00 pm like Jarmo says, then when do you sleep?

Cheers,

Andrew

That's easy....you just show up late....LMAO :rofl: :hihi: :rofl:

Dude he's not trying to bring anything back at all! For these kind of guys it never goes away.....at least on the road anyway. I agree with you that the 80's scene has come and gone. But it don't mean you can't party anymore. And I think Baz wears jeans when he's offstage! : ok:

Uh.. whenever the fuck you want?

Who says those happen on the same days?  ;)


Amusing how an article about Baz turns into this "OMG OMG! When does he sleep?" thing.....




/jarmo

wasnt Baz the guy on that reality show crying about being an alcoholic and Uncle Ted Nugent telling him he needs to quit drinking...Nice to see Baz sticking to his clean and sober rule. :hihi: :hihi:

I know Baz is really into his looks so maybe thats why he went from looking like a 25 year old actor to a 45 year old aging rock star...the booze man

We get it, you don't like Baz.

Move on.



/jarmo

As one gets older, they generally sleep less. Many 40-50 year olds get by on 5 hours of sleep a day.

And, Be easy on middle aged men who like to party in the morning ... you'll be there some day!

you know whats not funny.how people turn on good people like baz.just because there is no good news right now.if there was alot going on.baz would be top dude.but now people love to talk shit about him.poor people who hate.it's the whole hater game shit really.just jealous envy of someone.shame that shit goes on really.

its 100% jealousy. 

Let be fair , sir.

It's 95% Jealousy and 5% stupidness.

baz has a right to praise axl cause axl does deserve it.give credit were credit is due not stupidity.be glad baz even gives a shit about g n' r fans to give his thoughts. :crying:im tiered of the bitching allready an shit.get a grip baz is good for us  fans.

Isn't jealousy stupid?

Well, it's like is the glass half empty or half full, it depends on the way you look at it   :beer:

yes and no, it's really all in how you see it.From my perspective it's two diffrent things.

I personally think thats pretty awesome and sounds like an amazing time.


He doesn't party TILL 5am, the party starts at 5am which is even more badass.

I would have to say that Baz is your everyday typical 40 year old man. Anyone who says different hates Baz, Jarmo, and GN'R.

You guys are all so sensitive... just be happy that CD will be out soon. :P

Ya thats true,

they might have been on stage in Dublin a few minutes before the hour, I cant remember what the hour was 8 or 9 but it was still bright. I think it caught alot of people out. I was in the outer pit all ready for a big wait then Axl & Co stroll on stage. Great to see them so close in such good light, my photos came out brillant ?;D

we all know axl is a night owl, that's why shows start so late, which is fine with me, i'm a night owl too, and that is why he can party till the wee hours of the next afternoon.

when you talk about shows starting at 7 in japan, well, no shit, japan is like 12, 15 hours different then the time zone axl is usually in, so yeah, i can see him getting there early like that, even europe is about 5 to 8 hours different, so it really isn't such a great feat that he gets there early.  plus, maybe these all night parties is the reason that most of gnr shows aren't on back to back nights.

 :hihi: :hihi: I always find that saying funny, night owl as oppose to a day owl  ???

Nevermind its just my childish humour kicking in. :peace:

i dont mind Baz but i think its funny with him being so proud about his party lifestyle because last year on that vh1 show supergroup he was portrayed as being an angry miserable drunk..and the scene with him crying on Uncle Teds shoulder about how he is an alcoholic was priceless...so its a little turnaround now with him talking about how he parties with Uncle Axl all day every day....I am sure the wife isnt too happy about that (and his wife is stone cold gorgeous) and Baz did hit the wall hard.....he was rock n rolls pretty boy and now he looks like one of those record store owners wearing their maiden shirts .... :hihi: :hihi:

I'm guessing that owls would sleep in the daytime and wouldn't be seen partying till afternoon.


Maybe he has night owl friends in every country.
He seems to be quite knowledgeable about the cities he plays.
did you hear what axl said after the encores on nagoya show boots? :hihi:

Soundcheck?

I don't think they do soundchecks before every show.

At least I've never heard anybody saying they heard the band soundcheck while waiting in line. I remember that they did it in Madrid, but that was the first show of the European tour.


Oh, and just because Axl isn't on stage at 7PM doesn't mean he's not at the venue or on his way there....

Common sense says that it takes time to prepare for the show. You just don't show up and walk on stage.





/jarmo

According to SLash, Axl doesn't think the way the rest of us do.

that's right i forgot , axl is an alein lol.come on axl thinks just friggin fine.he is very smart ok.

Or maybe slash and his entourage don't think the way the rest of us do.  :P

Well their is a great source of fucking information. But considering how Slash and some other think I think gawd dude doesn't think like everybody.

I for one don't think I'd think the way slash does. do you? everyone thinks differently.
But this is getting ridiculously irrelevant to the topic  :nervous:.

and this is related to the topic how?   oh right an excuse to bring up slash in the gnr section.  :confused:

Why are you such a jerk?

anyways if axl was so alien from others in thinking, how could he write those lyrics and music that so many people relate to?

To my thinking he is very human and humane.

Axl is alien to common trends, not necessarily the common way of thinking.

for those who wonder, a book called "A road less travelled" is not a bad thing to read to give you insight into those personalities who do things "different" from the norm....with the norm being whatever else the world is doing.

the difference between Mr. Rose and others is that he usually is the one who sets the standard, not follow something already done by someone else.

that's where your "relative" lyrics come from.

It related to what was being said at the time...now it is not...don't be an idiot.

the problem in the 1st place is everyone acts like Axl is some alien...Axl is a regualr person who does things his own way and thats it...he isnt some android

nope. and no not  everyone. >:(


I don't know but he seems to like some trendy things.
I think words go to people's hearts when they come from a heart that can feel others pain as if their own.

Pantera didnt kill nothing they were as glam as Poison in the mid 80's.

and then vulgar display of power came along in 1992..end of story

hes a cross between howard hughes and hugh hefner :hihi: :rofl:

Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc came along and end of story. Pantera had about as much play in weeding out hair metal as we all knew it in the 80's as Warrant.

pearl jam???? faith no more and the chili peppers were much more responsible for killing glam than pearl jam.....pantera saved heavy metal in the mid 1990s when GNR split up and metallica sold out

I love Baz.  Such an energetic guy.


What does GNR have to do with Pantera saving metal?   ???

Nevermind dude.....Just forget it : ok: We are gonna get way off topic.

You just don't get it do you? ::)

Remember when a member here posted that Axl Rose died in the 90's? And the guy doing the 2002 VMA's wasn't Axl?
Well, there is now more of them.

Thats why "Axl" can be so many places at ones and apparantly not sleep. Get it now why "he" sounds diferent then he did in 2002? ;)
It's all a big concpiracy, how can everyone be so blind!!!


PS/ Polluxm gonna be all over this one :hihi:

We heard them soundchecking at Hammerstein around 8pm, just as the doors opened.

Because Baz wishes it was 1987 all over again and that scene is over with

Was led zeppelin a late 80s band?

So what if he does..... why do you seem to care so much?

Baz seem like a cool dude.

because Baz likes to talk about rock n roll in every single interview he gives...music is in bad enough shape right now, the last thing we need is the leather pants rock n roll again..Jim Morrison said it best...ROCK IS DEAD

NO WAY !
i don't believe it.
another critic we have ?
never give up rap is over more like it.have some faith damm it '

What exactly are you here for?

I suggest you stay the fuck out of any threads with the name "Sebastian Bach" mentioned in them.




/jarmo

yes, we need more flannel wearing depressing rockers!! ?:rofl:

rock will never be dead, sorry.

and what's wrong with the leather pants? 

Rock is dead the second rap makes a comeback,

But now with all this timberland shit going on, I cant believe the general public are likeing the crap...

However, I hope Rock makes a comeback the same time axl releases cd...

Real Rock n Roll was always a sub-genre, it was only in the late 80s- early 90s that it made it "main stream". There has always been shitty music, and there will always be. The ignorant masses eat that crap up(shitty music).

if that were the case, nobody would be on this board.

Exponential wisdom ... take it to heart!

Didn't he die before many rock movements come and go?

I thought it was johnny rotten who said that.

Guess rock has died many times.

if johnny rotten said it then he copied big Jim..cuz the Doors did an unreleased song called rock is dead in 1969

 ???what planet are you from?  rock a sub-genre?  i don't get that idea.  there are alot of "sub-genres" of rock.  and rock it's self was mainstream long before the 80's.  what do you call elvis, the everly bros, bo didley, the likes of them?  they were the early rock and roll acts, alot different from todays rock and roll, but they were rock and roll, and how much more mainstream can you get then them?

Real rock still exists... underground.

The key word was real. And, I call Bo Didley blues.

Led Zepplin consistently released new music, even after the death of John, so I would say no. Alx is not a "One Man Led Zepplin".

Maybe Baz does actually think its still the eighties - there's no such place as Czechoslovakia anymore :smoking:

And what the hell's wrong with leather breeks and Maiden tops?  I'm wearing both right now.

Guan yersel Baz, rock on!  Weird how twenty years ago it was the parents and not the fans who complained about the musicians partying.

Unfortunatley after John's death, Led Zepplin died too.? All material released after John's death were pre-recorded? and written or co-written by John.? He was the man who put the songs together through his drum kit.? Much like Zepplin, Rush w/o Neil Peart did not write anything or even good enough to release as Rush.? After his return he put the music to the Lyrics and produced CD's.  This is my opinion and part fact too.

rock and roll evolved from the blues.

rock may not be the most popular genre today, with all the emo and pop-punk out there now, but it sure as hell isn't dead, and never will be.

I'm aware of the history of Rock n Roll; I lived through most of it. I didn't mean to imply that Rock is dead. The point I was trying to make was that "real" rock, ie. hard rock, didn't make it mainstream except for the period mentioned ...

Jarmo, you have my respect for dealing with the crap you have to deal with from some of these people. (back to page 1 of this topic).  : ok:

I believe axl's parting on the road is referred to as 'one man led zepplin'.
as the band of 4 were known for their wild sprees. I just read a special featured article on them in which the members say that's a bit exaggerated and they were rather reserved when they weren't touring.

I'd love to hear zeps cover of irs.  :peace:

Whenever I'm down I just come visit this forum to see Jarmo rip a newb or a troll a new one. Cure for the blues it is.

It's great to hear some pseudo-news from Baz and his comments about Axl. For some reason when I think about Axl partying late I remember that picture from the Vogue Mag last year where in my opinion he looked like a vampire. A badass vampire, but vampy nonetheless.

It'd also be nice to get some Chinese Democracy news for Christmas, but hey it's all good.

Well... I guess we can all say Axl is defnitely not doing this album for money.... ... yet.

Your posts are becoming very boring as time passes by...

Next time you want to post something "smart" like this, think about it again and don't.

Keep it to yourself.

Smartasses are the kind we don't need here.

But that's just your opinion, right? Right.

People have their own opinions of Axl, so chillax a little. :]

I hope and pray to the rock gods that Axl is "doing it for the money" in some regard. People compare the wait for Chinese Democracy to Brian Wilson's 'Smile', which by all accounts was a great album. But here's the kicker, 'Smile' sold like shit. I'm sure Axl wants to craft an album worthy of the GNR Sound and Name, but without proper sales it will enter the whole critically acclaimed but social failure category of 'art'. You want your vision to succeed and that includes making smart business decisions and have the album properly marketed.


No, Baz is Baz, he's a close friend of the band and that's why I listen and believe what he says but he's not Guns N' Roses. They're nice little tidbits, but only when Axl speaks would I deem it real news. Hence 'pseudo'. The little bits we get from Baz and Bumble on occasion Robin and Fortus are nice, think of them as little snacks to satiate a hungry fanbase, but no one on MTV, CNN, or major news network is going to report a rumor or comment from Sebastian Bach. And no, that wasn't meant to be negative or anything like that, so don't read into it like that.

^Cool dude, I see now. Sorry about that.  :peace:

Dude. You're such a little prick.  Why start picking at the members of this board?

Sure, when the band goes on stage around midnight, they may be sleeping until 7 or 8pm.  Perfectly reasonable.

I'm soooooo glad that you've seen them go on stage earlier.  I'm truly happy for you. 

Go ahead and pick on the members that talk about Axl's shoes, next.

And what the fuck are you doing? Dude!



Perfectly reasonable? Whatever you say Sir!



I'm glad you know their sleeping habits.

What kind of comforters do they use?






I'm truly happy too. Amazing shows.

 :-*



/jarmo

"When you read this, I'm banning you."

I know English isn't your first language or something, so here's a little help:  A more correct way to say it would be "As you are read this, I'm banning you."  or "While you are reading this, I'm banning you."

Ok.

As you are read this, I'm banning you.


/jarmo

That's funny.  Yeah, next time you wanna criticize someone for butchering the English language you might wanna make sure you have a firm grasp on it first.

Can we get back on topic, though? This is getting a little annoying... Why not message (PRIVATELY) about this instead? ^.^

Rofl... when he was younger, most Axl's pictures reminded me of a vampire (badass, of course...)

It would be cool to get some CD (roflz) for christmas... oh well, maybe this coming '08... or not.

Wow! a pedantic rant, how origonal. : ok: ::)

 There goes another one. Anyways back on topic please. What is the average Banning per day on this board? Just curious.

off topic: all one has to do is not be a turd. Shit! no one like the smell of that crap.

Want to be part of the sample?

a special song comes to mind

"Can you feel the love tonight...."

Only kiddin,
but on topic,
I think Axl , to achieve what he is setting out to do,
is probably more then any 1 member in led zepplin could wish to acomplish,

I mean, Axl has to be basically the whole driving force of this band,
from writing songs, instrumental layout/ producing/ etc

I mean, for 1 man to do all that (also of course with help from the band)
Is an acheivement of epic magnitude, and I would put him in the class of Led Zepplin, If not above,

of course, only if chinese democracy succeeds all public expectations will he then be above Led Zepplin,
Thus ruleing the world with Rock :beer:

LZ have sold 300million albums in their career. Their website for the comeback concert had 1.2 million hits. Outside of this Robert Plant has managed to get to chart positions of 2 and 4 for his latest solo Album with Alison Krauss, and this isn't Roberts only successful album without LZ. As much as I love the guys singing, to even to begin to compare Axl, who has released one song in 14yrs or so to LZ, is ridiculous in my opinion.

One thing that is bothering me about this thread, people keep writing Led Zepplin... it's Led Zeppelin.

And Axl is no one man Zeppelin, until he gets something out he's anything but prolific. Sebastian is great though, he is the only interesting thing happening in the GN'R camp. He never shuts up about Axl, which is great in my opinion.

No not really, though I would not be too broken hearted. On to the topic: To me Axl is Axl. He should not be compared to any artist past or present and no one should be compared to Axl.