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Title: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Robman? on November 06, 2007, 08:12:13 PM
From the VR forum, an interview with Duff and Dave from Music Live magazine:

Well with that lingering image only one question remains to be asked: bearing in mind all that?s been said about band relationships and the draining tours is Velvet Revolver really here to stay? Will we see an album number three?
?Well, never say never,? says Duff, ?But I for one certainly hope so.?
?It seems like everyone?s looking forward to a third record,? says Dave, ?So we?re doing Europe and the States in 08 and then this time we?re looking to do a record sooner rather than later??
That?s all we?re going to get out of them for now then but things sound decidedly promising.
For now we?re going to have to make do with the two excellent albums already out, and the gigantic live shows.

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Sounds promising  :)


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: CSS on November 06, 2007, 08:19:01 PM
I really hope so.

But what bothers me is that they talk like the band is on the verse of breaking up.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Smoking Guns on November 06, 2007, 10:46:40 PM
How Mary Mary and American Man never hit the airwaves blows me away.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: -Jack- on November 06, 2007, 11:10:23 PM
Not to stir shit up, but I really hope this album is actually good. :/. Libertad was ok, but seriously, these guys need to set the bar much higher. They are living legends! What are they doing with subpar albums?

Put something legendary out.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Smoking Guns on November 06, 2007, 11:14:22 PM
Not to stir shit up, but I really hope this album is actually good. :/. Libertad was ok, but seriously, these guys need to set the bar much higher. They are living legends! What are they doing with subpar albums?

Put something legendary out.

they need to listen to ac/dc, sabbath, and some stones and write simple songs with a groove that fucking rock... ala Appetite.. ha!!!


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Robman? on November 06, 2007, 11:27:44 PM
Slash needs to listen to some Aerosmith.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: cfcsfc on November 06, 2007, 11:39:48 PM
Remember when we were first hearing about Libertad and Scott said he wanted to do a concept album, a la Dark Side?
I reckon this is the perfect time to do that. Push their creativity and do something outside of their comfort zone.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: DEAD HORSE on November 06, 2007, 11:49:58 PM
i think they need better lyrics. lyrics on both albums are really poor.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Billo on November 07, 2007, 03:56:07 AM
Id rather listen to Libertad than any other rock cd out today?? who is better?? :peace:


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: metallex78 on November 07, 2007, 04:05:07 AM
I haven't listened to Libertad since I bought it, I'd much rather Slash went back to his solo thing so we can hear some good guitar riffing and soloing, rather than have him play watered-down STP sounding stuff like what's on Libertad.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Jim Bob on November 07, 2007, 04:44:13 AM
I haven't listened to Libertad since I bought it, I'd much rather Slash went back to his solo thing so we can hear some good guitar riffing and soloing, rather than have him play watered-down STP sounding stuff like what's on Libertad.

agreed.  :peace:


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Bridge on November 07, 2007, 02:46:59 PM
I haven't listened to Libertad since I bought it, I'd much rather Slash went back to his solo thing so we can hear some good guitar riffing and soloing, rather than have him play watered-down STP sounding stuff like what's on Libertad.

I half agree.  Contraband was a good record, and if they went back to playing that sort of thing, I'd be satisfied.  I think that album is better than Slash's solo stuff.  But I wholeheartedly agree that Libertad was much too tame, much too STP sounding for my liking.  I also can't seem to muster up the desire to play Libertad over and over.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 07, 2007, 03:25:40 PM
It would make sense, didn't they have a 3 album contract with RCA?

This way they could put the third album out quickly and not have any more ties, that way if they decide they want to go their separate way there's no problem with them doing so.

I like Libertad, I think some parts of it are better than Contraband, I think some parts are worse.

I just wish Velvet Revolver would reach it's potential.  Both albums are good, but everyone knows that these individuals have so much more talent.  Maybe they just don't gel good enough together, maybe they're not as interested and as focused as they used to be, maybe this is the type of music they want to make and they think it's really good... who knows.

I just hope if there is a third VR album that it blows the first two out of the water.



Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: LunsJail on November 07, 2007, 03:54:23 PM
Put something legendary out.

Easier said than done my friend.  But I agree, they could try a little harder.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: jarmo on November 07, 2007, 04:37:53 PM
The lack of solos on Contraband was because Slash felt restricted. He wanted to save money and ended up recording guitars in some small studio where he didn't feel comfortable (according to his book).

Then Libertad was done with Brendan and everybody seemed happy because the band had played together longer.

So if Libertad was the best they can do, why would the next album be that different?


Rick Rubin wanted them to write more songs, they didn't want that. They wanted to record the stuff they had.

Considering 2009 is about 14 months away and they have some tours to finish, it doesn't seem like they'll have much time to work on an album if they wanna get it out in early 2009.




/jarmo



Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Robman? on November 07, 2007, 04:48:12 PM
The lack of solos on Contraband was because Slash felt restricted. He wanted to save money and ended up recording guitars in some small studio where he didn't feel comfortable (according to his book).

Then Libertad was done with Brendan and everybody seemed happy because the band had played together longer.

So if Libertad was the best they can do, why would the next album be that different?


Rick Rubin wanted them to write more songs, they didn't want that. They wanted to record the stuff they had.

Considering 2009 is about 14 months away and they have some tours to finish, it doesn't seem like they'll have much time to work on an album if they wanna get it out in early 2009.




/jarmo



nonsense, the band could easily finish touring by the end of July.

Plenty of time to write and record before the new year, get it out maybe by march.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: CheapJon on November 07, 2007, 05:01:13 PM
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Will we see an album number three?
?Well, never say never,? says Duff

that doesn't sound positive too me :hihi:

slash, duff and izzy should start a new band (not reunite with Axl, but maybe put their shit behind)

matt sorum could start a band with vince niel or some other guy i don't like :hihi:

scott can go back with the brothers and reunite STP

dave can.. well he can play guitar


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Guitar1281 on November 07, 2007, 05:16:40 PM
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matt sorum could start a band with vince niel or some other guy i don't like :hihi:
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HAHAHAHA, but it just might not work those two, according to Axl in the Illusions DVD Matt Sorum bashes hard enough to turn your brains in to mashed rice, or something along that lines and according to Izzy, VInce Niel hits like a powderpuff. So this would be an ill-advised collaboration


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: DeN on November 07, 2007, 05:27:38 PM

slash, duff and izzy should start a new band (not reunite with Axl, but maybe put their shit behind)

oh yes, with bon jovi  :hihi:


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: -Jack- on November 07, 2007, 05:30:44 PM
Put something legendary out.

Easier said than done my friend.  But I agree, they could try a little harder.

True true, and I understand that, but these guys should be capable you know?

I think they need to bar down, not tour for too long, and spend alot of time making a great album. It should be epic. Lol. And I'm not saying they should try and create some opus, but at least some great rock n roll. Not just subpar...


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: CheapJon on November 07, 2007, 05:32:30 PM

slash, duff and izzy should start a new band (not reunite with Axl, but maybe put their shit behind)

oh yes, with bon jovi? :hihi:

i'd rather have scott then bon jovi :rofl:


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on November 07, 2007, 08:26:24 PM
The lack of solos on Contraband was because Slash felt restricted. He wanted to save money and ended up recording guitars in some small studio where he didn't feel comfortable (according to his book).

Then Libertad was done with Brendan and everybody seemed happy because the band had played together longer.

So if Libertad was the best they can do, why would the next album be that different?


Rick Rubin wanted them to write more songs, they didn't want that. They wanted to record the stuff they had.

Considering 2009 is about 14 months away and they have some tours to finish, it doesn't seem like they'll have much time to work on an album if they wanna get it out in early 2009.




/jarmo



actually, they have time to do another album and tour. these guys dont need years to record.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: jarmo on November 07, 2007, 08:53:26 PM
actually, they have time to do another album and tour. these guys dont need years to record.


Yeah, exactly. They have time to repeat the same thing they did with Contraband and Libertad.

My point was that if they want to try something new, there might not be enough time....





/jarmo


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: leatherebel on November 07, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
Yeah, release the B-sides of Libertad and when it doesn't go so well, blame it on the first single chosen again.... : ok:

Or hire Desmond Child to write some of the songs on the next album.... :confused:



Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: metallex78 on November 08, 2007, 03:31:42 AM
I haven't listened to Libertad since I bought it, I'd much rather Slash went back to his solo thing so we can hear some good guitar riffing and soloing, rather than have him play watered-down STP sounding stuff like what's on Libertad.

I half agree.? Contraband was a good record, and if they went back to playing that sort of thing, I'd be satisfied.? I think that album is better than Slash's solo stuff.? But I wholeheartedly agree that Libertad was much too tame, much too STP sounding for my liking.? I also can't seem to muster up the desire to play Libertad over and over.

Yeah, and what I said isn't a dig at STP either. I love STP, but Slash on Libertad just sounds so uninspired on most of it.
At least on Contraband the guitars jumped out of the speakers and kicked you in the face, even if the mix was bad.


Title: Re: A 3rd album in early '09?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 09, 2007, 09:57:38 PM
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The lack of solos on Contraband was because Slash felt restricted. He wanted to save money and ended up recording guitars in some small studio where he didn't feel comfortable (according to his book).

Then Libertad was done with Brendan and everybody seemed happy because the band had played together longer.

So if Libertad was the best they can do, why would the next album be that different?


Rick Rubin wanted them to write more songs, they didn't want that. They wanted to record the stuff they had.

Considering 2009 is about 14 months away and they have some tours to finish, it doesn't seem like they'll have much time to work on an album if they wanna get it out in early 2009.

First off Slash said that there weren't as many solos as there could have been on Contraband because he felt restricted in the studio and wasn't as comfortable playing.  Saying "the lack" makes it sound like there's hardly any, which isn't true.  He also said he was happy with his work on Contraband.

Also your quote about Libertad being the best they can do is pure nonsense.  Show me one quote where anyone ever said Libertad is the best they can do.  I'm sure you'll have a ton of trouble finding one.  They said they wanted to make the best album they ever made, and they also said that they were happy with the way it came out. 

Also, they have plenty of time to get working on a new album if they want it out by "early 2009".  Early 2009 would be anytime before April (splitting the year into four quarters), which is 17 months away.   If you think that it'll take Velvet Revolver 17 months to do some touring, write a new record and put it out you're insane.  If they wanted too they could have it out sometime in 2008, but the band probably doesn't want to commit to that constant of a work schedule.