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Title: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: GeraldFord on October 16, 2007, 09:14:06 AM
I was just wondering what the reception from the audience was like and if they were well-recieved. These seem to be the two major "alternative" bands that opened for GN'R in the early 90s.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: russtcb on October 16, 2007, 09:27:50 AM
I was just wondering what the reception from the audience was like and if they were well-recieved. These seem to be the two major "alternative" bands that opened for GN'R in the early 90s.

I saw both of those bands as well as Blind Melon opening for GNR in the early 90s. The Pumpkins had a very strange reception from the crowd. Their actual show sucked, but the songs were good so people were kinda confused, lol. Soundgarden had to play twice at the Palace before GNR got around to coming out on stage and the crowd was ok the first time and terrible to them the second time.



Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: GeraldFord on October 16, 2007, 09:41:02 AM
I was just wondering what the reception from the audience was like and if they were well-recieved. These seem to be the two major "alternative" bands that opened for GN'R in the early 90s.

I saw both of those bands as well as Blind Melon opening for GNR in the early 90s. The Pumpkins had a very strange reception from the crowd. Their actual show sucked, but the songs were good so people were kinda confused, lol. Soundgarden had to play twice at the Palace before GNR got around to coming out on stage and the crowd was ok the first time and terrible to them the second time.



How were the SP songs good but the show bad? I heard D'arcy and James Iha had no charisma? Is that true?

And did Soundgarden play the same set list twice? I hope not!


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: LunsJail on October 16, 2007, 10:55:11 AM
I remember reading that SP was not well received at all on many of the dates.  But this was before most people had heard of them.  Plus you can imagine that a GNR crowd somewhere in the middle of Oklahoma isn't going to take to a nerdy band playing this spaced out fuzz rock.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: russtcb on October 16, 2007, 10:58:36 AM
I was just wondering what the reception from the audience was like and if they were well-recieved. These seem to be the two major "alternative" bands that opened for GN'R in the early 90s.

I saw both of those bands as well as Blind Melon opening for GNR in the early 90s. The Pumpkins had a very strange reception from the crowd. Their actual show sucked, but the songs were good so people were kinda confused, lol. Soundgarden had to play twice at the Palace before GNR got around to coming out on stage and the crowd was ok the first time and terrible to them the second time.



How were the SP songs good but the show bad? I heard D'arcy and James Iha had no charisma? Is that true?

And did Soundgarden play the same set list twice? I hope not!

You kinda answered your own question. It's exactly what you said, the tunes were great but the band just kinda stood there so the crowd didn't get into it much.

From what I remember Soundgarden did play the exact same setlist. I think that's why most people didn't dig them the second time around.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on October 16, 2007, 11:11:13 AM
One of the Soundgarden shows with GN'R was televised. I remeber watching it, I was about 17 and they made a big deal out of Soundgarden on the network prior to airing. I was just starting to get into Subpop at the time and just starting to question GN'R's talent. it was a weird time. Soundgarden were releasing the amazing, authentic music and GN'R were releasing So Fine and Shotgun Blues. I personally felt like Soundgarden "Outshined" GN'R at the time.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: GeraldFord on October 16, 2007, 11:34:39 AM
Nothing wrong with "So Fine." Plenty of authentic songs on UYI.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: ppbebe on October 16, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
I remember reading that SP was not well received at all on many of the dates.  But this was before most people had heard of them.  Plus you can imagine that a GNR crowd somewhere in the middle of Oklahoma isn't going to take to a nerdy band playing this spaced out fuzz rock.

what new band would get good crowd response for opening for GNR, I wonder.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Ali on October 16, 2007, 11:54:42 AM
One of the Soundgarden shows with GN'R was televised. I remeber watching it, I was about 17 and they made a big deal out of Soundgarden on the network prior to airing. I was just starting to get into Subpop at the time and just starting to question GN'R's talent. it was a weird time. Soundgarden were releasing the amazing, authentic music and GN'R were releasing So Fine and Shotgun Blues. I personally felt like Soundgarden "Outshined" GN'R at the time.

I don't see anything more authentic about Soundgarden than GN'R. ?They were a different band with a "newer" sound, but I don't see that translating to being more "authentic".

Ali


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: kollemann on October 16, 2007, 12:58:18 PM
I was 1992/1993 in cologne.The opening bands were Soundgarden,Blind Mellon,Suicidal Tendencies and Faith no More.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on October 16, 2007, 01:19:08 PM
One of the Soundgarden shows with GN'R was televised. I remeber watching it, I was about 17 and they made a big deal out of Soundgarden on the network prior to airing. I was just starting to get into Subpop at the time and just starting to question GN'R's talent. it was a weird time. Soundgarden were releasing the amazing, authentic music and GN'R were releasing So Fine and Shotgun Blues. I personally felt like Soundgarden "Outshined" GN'R at the time.

I don't see anything more authentic about Soundgarden than GN'R. ?They were a different band with a "newer" sound, but I don't see that translating to being more "authentic".

Ali

It was how I felt "at the time". I understand now that there wasn't anything more "manufactured" than the Seattle scene at the time. I was the demographic, I was fooled.

My opinion of the Illusions stays the same though, they should have been 1 album, and not the one album version that is available.

Also, I've seen Billy Corgan live 3 times with three different acts, he was terrible every time. I love the Pumpkins, I love the new album as one dimensional as it may be, but as a live frontman... Billy's no Axl Rose.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Ali on October 16, 2007, 01:24:15 PM
One of the Soundgarden shows with GN'R was televised. I remeber watching it, I was about 17 and they made a big deal out of Soundgarden on the network prior to airing. I was just starting to get into Subpop at the time and just starting to question GN'R's talent. it was a weird time. Soundgarden were releasing the amazing, authentic music and GN'R were releasing So Fine and Shotgun Blues. I personally felt like Soundgarden "Outshined" GN'R at the time.

I don't see anything more authentic about Soundgarden than GN'R. ?They were a different band with a "newer" sound, but I don't see that translating to being more "authentic".

Ali

It was how I felt "at the time". I understand now that there wasn't anything more "manufactured" than the Seattle scene at the time. I was the demographic, I was fooled.

My opinion of the Illusions stays the same though, they should have been 1 album, and not the one album version that is available.

Also, I've seen Billy Corgan live 3 times with three different acts, he was terrible every time. I love the Pumpkins, I love the new album as one dimensional as it may be, but as a live frontman... Billy's no Axl Rose.

Fair enough, but I wasn't implying the Seattle scene was manufactured at all.  Just not any more, or less, authentic than the "more traditional" blues-based, punk-influenced hard rock of UYI-era GN'R  : ok:

Ali


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: LunsJail on October 16, 2007, 01:40:12 PM
One of the Soundgarden shows with GN'R was televised. I remeber watching it, I was about 17 and they made a big deal out of Soundgarden on the network prior to airing. I was just starting to get into Subpop at the time and just starting to question GN'R's talent. it was a weird time. Soundgarden were releasing the amazing, authentic music and GN'R were releasing So Fine and Shotgun Blues. I personally felt like Soundgarden "Outshined" GN'R at the time.

I don't see anything more authentic about Soundgarden than GN'R. ?They were a different band with a "newer" sound, but I don't see that translating to being more "authentic".

Ali

It was how I felt "at the time". I understand now that there wasn't anything more "manufactured" than the Seattle scene at the time. I was the demographic, I was fooled.

My opinion of the Illusions stays the same though, they should have been 1 album, and not the one album version that is available.

Also, I've seen Billy Corgan live 3 times with three different acts, he was terrible every time. I love the Pumpkins, I love the new album as one dimensional as it may be, but as a live frontman... Billy's no Axl Rose.

Fair enough, but I wasn't implying the Seattle scene was manufactured at all.? Just not any more, or less, authentic than the "more traditional" blues-based, punk-influenced hard rock of UYI-era GN'R? : ok:

Ali

Like Oh My Choking Soul said, it was a weird time.  There was a new sound coming from Seattle and from the indie labels and GNR were seen as being kind of yesterdays news.  Obviously Guns stood the test of time which is what's important anyways.   


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on October 16, 2007, 02:01:53 PM
I love Soundgarden, but that opening act they did in Paris was complete shit


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: LIGuns on October 16, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
I saw SG open for GN'R at MSG. It was for Badmotor Finger. People weren't into it. I thought they were good but Skid Row was a better opener..


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: damnthehaters on October 16, 2007, 04:44:45 PM
I've heard from numerous people that Smashing Pumpkins concerts aren't very good at all.  They also just came through here in Portland last month and I heard they were bad again.  It's a shame because there music is good!


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Robman? on October 16, 2007, 04:48:10 PM
NIN got booed off the stage and sold 3 t-shirts, in germany I believe, after people realized they weren't Skid Row.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: patcooper on October 16, 2007, 04:56:10 PM
saw soundgarden open up the garden in 91 i liked them but i knew who they were. but the majority of the garden crowd hated them.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: gmGnR on October 16, 2007, 05:57:20 PM
I was just wondering what the reception from the audience was like and if they were well-recieved. These seem to be the two major "alternative" bands that opened for GN'R in the early 90s.

I was at the Paris show in 92 and I think I knew about Soundgarden but had never actually heard their music. Back in those days I used to go to a lot of shows and the majority of opening bands sucked and one would not pay that much attention but to this day I remember watching Soundgarden for a bit (I arrived late) and there was something about them that made you stay and watch. I got into the whole Seattle thing later that year and I still bit my fingers knowing that I saw the Badmotorfinger tour but didn't really appreciate it. Since then, SG has been one of my favorite bands along GNR.

That day, Faith No More opened and I knew them well so was really into it.

I think most of the crowd didn't know SG and but some knew FNM.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: jarmo on October 16, 2007, 07:31:47 PM
I think back in 1992 most people who watched Headbanger's Ball knew of Faith No More.

They had just released Angel Dust and Midlife Crisis was getting played on MTV. At least in Europe.


Soundgarden had released Badmotorfinger in 1991 and were also becoming more popular at the time.


It's kinda funny how I listen to many of the bands who opened for GN'R but I didn't discover some of them until later.....




/jarmo


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Jim Bob on October 16, 2007, 07:38:40 PM
a pumkins/GnR show would be fucking sweet!


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Falcon on October 16, 2007, 07:44:34 PM
The Pumpkins were not well received at all when they opened for GNR in Oklahoma City in92, booed off the stage unmerciflly by a majority of fans that had zero clue what they were seeing.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: gcluskey on October 16, 2007, 07:44:41 PM
I remember Faith No More opening for GnR in Slane 92. They kicked ass but Mike wasn't the friendliest to the crowd


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Jim Bob on October 16, 2007, 07:57:58 PM
The Pumpkins were not well received at all when they opened for GNR in Oklahoma City in92, booed off the stage unmerciflly by a majority of fans that had zero clue what they were seeing.
yea but if they toured together now it would be different.    Pumkpins didn't really hit it big until 93 or 94 i think.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Falcon on October 16, 2007, 08:04:59 PM
The Pumpkins were not well received at all when they opened for GNR in Oklahoma City in92, booed off the stage unmerciflly by a majority of fans that had zero clue what they were seeing.
yea but if they toured together now it would be different.?

Doubt it would ever happen these days, the Pumpkins are a headline act and I doubt they'd commit themselves to a subordinate role.




Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Ali on October 16, 2007, 08:10:29 PM
The Pumpkins were not well received at all when they opened for GNR in Oklahoma City in92, booed off the stage unmerciflly by a majority of fans that had zero clue what they were seeing.
yea but if they toured together now it would be different.?

Doubt it would ever happen these days, the Pumpkins are a headline act and I doubt they'd commit themselves to a subordinate role.




100% agree.  They don't need the exposure of opening up for a band like GN'R anymore.

Ali


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: DeN on October 16, 2007, 08:38:59 PM
I remember Faith No More opening for GnR in Slane 92. They kicked ass but Mike wasn't the friendliest to the crowd


ahah the same at vincennes, it was too funny. and soundgarden was great too.

and if you read that Vanessa, i still remember you  :love:


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: doooodickiebr on October 16, 2007, 10:21:20 PM
saw sg open in 92 in baton rouge, la...college town, so alternative was pretty popular at the time.  i wasn't impressed though!

anyone else here attend that show?


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: 123191 on October 17, 2007, 12:34:12 AM
saw sg open in 92 in baton rouge, la...college town, so alternative was pretty popular at the time.? i wasn't impressed though!

anyone else here attend that show?

Saw Soundgarden open on December 31, 1991.  Their show left a lot of people stunned in a seeming state of disbelief.  Minor chords, amplified noise, and the wail of Chris Cornell freaked the GNR crowd out.  They finished with "Jesus Christ Pose" and left the stage to the roar and hum of tons of feedback as they turned their instruments around on the amps and walked off. 

Then, I saw them at Lollapalooza the next summer and was blown away!  Funny what a different venue can do.

BTW, Guns owned that night!  Fireworks during PC to close the set and ring in the New Year.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: GeraldFord on October 17, 2007, 12:35:49 AM
I've heard from numerous people that Smashing Pumpkins concerts aren't very good at all.? They also just came through here in Portland last month and I heard they were bad again.? It's a shame because there music is good!

Just got back from a Pumpkins concert and they fucking rocked.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: 123191 on October 17, 2007, 12:37:06 AM
I've heard from numerous people that Smashing Pumpkins concerts aren't very good at all.? They also just came through here in Portland last month and I heard they were bad again.? It's a shame because there music is good!

Just got back from a Pumpkins concert and they fucking rocked.

Saw them in Santa Cruz, CA over the summer and I couldn't agree more.  The new band jams.  Why didn't they put Gossamer on Zeitgeist?


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: marknroses on October 17, 2007, 01:24:34 PM
All this comes to show how great and extensive Axl's taste in music was/is.
He knew about Soundgarden/Janes Addiction/Smashing Pumpkins/Alice in Chains etc. before most of the rock n roll-buying public knew of them. He wanted Nirvana to tour with them but Kurt, asshole as usual, refused and then proceeded to publicly insult Axl (for no apparent reason other than he just didn't like his image).

MNW


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: McGann on October 17, 2007, 04:28:27 PM
saw sg open in 92 in baton rouge, la...college town, so alternative was pretty popular at the time.? i wasn't impressed though!

anyone else here attend that show?

Saw Soundgarden open on December 31, 1991.? Their show left a lot of people stunned in a seeming state of disbelief.? Minor chords, amplified noise, and the wail of Chris Cornell freaked the GNR crowd out.? They finished with "Jesus Christ Pose" and left the stage to the roar and hum of tons of feedback as they turned their instruments around on the amps and walked off.?

Then, I saw them at Lollapalooza the next summer and was blown away!? Funny what a different venue can do.

BTW, Guns owned that night!? Fireworks during PC to close the set and ring in the New Year.

I was at that show
(The Miami one, I mean)
Gn'R RULED all.

The band's sound was great
And the show was quite long, too...
I had a great time...

The Mickey Mouse suit
Axl wore to crack Slash up
Was hysterical.

Oh, and Soundgarden
Blew me away.  I loved 'em.
Made me a big fan.

Splash

/Mike


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: holtzmn73 on October 17, 2007, 05:10:47 PM
I saw Soundgarden open two nights for GNR at the Target Center, Mpls Jan '92, the arena was mostly empty for them, people had heard about GNR's late starts by this time and were out drinking instead. I watched both SG sets though and thoroughly enjoyed them as I had Badmotorfinger already. Mainly people only responded both nights when they did Outshined.



Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Barney Fife on October 19, 2007, 01:35:16 PM
I seen Soundgarden open for GnR in Dayton, Ohio in 1992.  I had never really heard of Soundgarden and neither had most of the crowd.  I remember standing across from a concession stand and noticing how many people were out in the hall just walking around.  I remember looking back into the arena and noticing all of the empty seats and Cornell started yelling at the crowd because nobody was into the band.  They played two nights there.  The next night the microphone stand broke on Axl and he had to get a few stitches.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: jaypayton on November 06, 2007, 12:52:41 PM
Faith No More is my favorite band and i have over 20 audio bootlegs of them when they opened for GNR in 1992....The crowds in europe reacted very well to FNM...The whole story about how in Lisbon how people were throwing garbage on stage and Axl fell down and threatened to walk off was because earlier that night FNM had requested the crowd throw everything on stage...Mike Patton has stated the Sevilla show was the best show they ever played....Although at the Wembley show Mike requested the crowd to phone in a bomb threat during GNR's set and constantly told the audience they are stupid...so it was a mixed ba..The crowds in the USA werent exactly the best..At this point FNM was almost thrown off the tour for bashing GNR in the press and? Mike Patton would constantly bash the crowds in the middle of the show.....


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Megaguns on November 07, 2007, 01:06:16 AM
I say that any band that had or has the balls to open for gnr deserve a gold record, cmon people..... some of the gigs ive seen, if the opening bands are not well known, the floor is either empty or just people booing....... im sure gunners went thru it occasionally themselves back when they were opening for others.

sorry im drunk..... WOOO HOOO!!!!!  wednesday afternoon...... holidays rule.       bathroom renovations suck.....


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: Crowebar on November 07, 2007, 02:33:38 AM
NIN got booed off the stage and sold 3 t-shirts, in germany I believe, after people realized they weren't Skid Row.  :hihi:

that's hilarious        :hihi:        :rofl:   


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: meanmachine73 on November 07, 2007, 11:06:33 AM
I liked NIN (well head like a hole) and thought they were good at Wembley. I saw them later in a small venue in Birmingham. They were fantastic live.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: 123191 on November 13, 2007, 02:30:06 AM
The Pumpkins were not well received at all when they opened for GNR in Oklahoma City in92, booed off the stage unmerciflly by a majority of fans that had zero clue what they were seeing.
yea but if they toured together now it would be different.?

Doubt it would ever happen these days, the Pumpkins are a headline act and I doubt they'd commit themselves to a subordinate role.

Nice Cult avatar.?Going to see them next month in SF.

When The Cult was touring for Electric, GNR opened some shows after The Cult had opened for Billy Idol.? On Idol's next tour, Faith No More opened (and rocked) who then opened for GNR.? By the transitive property that must mean something....or not.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: jaypayton on November 13, 2007, 10:29:55 AM
heres some more tidbits...in rock n rio 1991 billy idol and GNR played the same night and Axl requested Faith No More play the same night which they did...so all 3 bands played the same night on day 1 of rock n rio


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: kylemsymons on November 13, 2007, 10:31:01 AM
I remember that show on New Years...I think the biggest response from Soundgarden that night is when he was offering his glow in the dark Ozzy shirt to the crowd.

What a great show...GNR on new years eve for $20.


Title: Re: Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR in the early 90s
Post by: sjgotnitro on November 13, 2007, 11:39:43 AM
I saw Soundgarden in Philly in 91. I thought at the time they sucked and the bass player drove me fucking nutz jumping around like a pogp stick all night. Sort of looked like a big goober up there. And to be honest I do not remember what the crowd response was to them.? Nothing sticks out so it was probally just something to listen to till gnr hit the stage.

Since that time i like a few of there songs.

Nothing can beat Skid Row opening for GNR back in early 91. That show kicked ass.
The crowd went wild for skid row.  Best fucking show ever :peace: EVER  :hihi:

Both bands were banned from ever returning :yes: