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I was just wondering if anyone has asked the record company lately if they know anything at all?about a release or single or setbacks etc...

don't think anyone has asked the Record company that in an official way at least

I remembering reading stuff that said the record company hav'nt heard a thing from the guns department.I was wondering if anything has changed or not.I remember in the old days the record company had contracts with thier roster to release stuff at a certain point.I guess Axl holds the brass balls now not the record lable.

They haven't heard a thing. You are right....

universal will release their list of upcoming records for the end of the year release in a few days (weeks) time.....so keep an eye out for that....if gnr is on there...its on there....if its not....its not....

I don't know why you think it would do any good?


As soon as anybody (band or record company) have any news for us, I'm sure they'll let us know.


The whole idea of bothering people with questions is a waste of time.

I'm sure it's also annoying for those who have to keep answering the same questions.




/jarmo

I'm quietly confident I know the answer to this one.

Sorry Jarmo

Let the fans knows like 2000-2006 ?What happened?Nothing. 2007 is for my opinion the same.Soon is the word ;)

And if someone did it, what makes you think they would say what you want to hear?

I think when everything?s ready they ( the band, record company or someone of their camp ) will let us know :)

Exactly,...Now Listen to Jarmo kids....Follow this advice,you won't go wrong...(and won't appear to be cereberally fornicated) mmmmmokaay?

Is this the 65th thousand thirty second speculation thread, or have I lost count? :hihi:


W.

Well there's one way to stop the enquiries..... But I won't hold my breath

Useless. Been fan for last 20 years... Now it is sure. There will be no record. Nothing, never. This goes all to egoism of one induvidulal... 45 years old... Mygnr and this site should stop now... No more GNR...

Fuck off.

so why are you a fan again?   does the album not being out somehow take away the great music we've already gotten from GnR?

although I do agree MyGnR should shut down  :P

maybe someone could tell us why the delay and no real word on the album since the March 6th date came and went so many months ago...

I'm sorry, ive said this before, and everyone ignores me. But even if you're completely neutral on the issue, how can people not be AMAZED that Axl still has a band and (AFAIK) a record company?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Despite what some people were saying a while ago, it can NOT be coz they need the ?:

50 Cent
Audioslave
D12
G-Unit
The Hives
Enrique Iglesias
Jimmy Eat World
Elton John
Keane
Limp Bizkit
Marilyn Manson
Ms Dynamite
MIA
NIN
No Doubt
QOTSA
Will Smith
Gwen Stefani
Sugababes
Obie Trice
U2
Pharell Williams

Are many reasons of decently selling bands. These bands together are the reason why Interscope do not need money from GNR sales - theyre hardly in financial dire straights! So why no drop 'em?

Dont get me wrong, i want the album, i just dont get it.

A also refuse to believe that responsible adults (with families) are in this band only so they can tell their grand children about it, but at the moment, it looks that way.

Now, flame away!

and if they function under the Universal banner, you can add so many more high sellers to that list!

They're kept on the label roster because besides what tons of "fans" (I'm not at all referring to you, btw) on these boards say, there is and will continue to be alot of money and interest in Guns N' Roses.

/e yawn.

if they know something, the can't say anything, I guess

pure waste of time...

nothing wrong with calling a record company and asking questions about their artists, it's their job to sell you something, and you are a customer.  they should be grateful for interest by the fans in a product they make money from selling

i vote call them all you want, that's why when axl finally comes back, they can honestly say "back by popular demand"

i have said it before, and ill say it again: do not dictate to me your definition of a fan.

Maybe because he wants it so much and he's been waiting for so long he decided to take the very small chance of getting a good reply black. People play the lottery don't they?


I believe that's what the band said, not the record company.


I'm sure that soon enough they will no longer have to answer these questions. Until then, they can time a time off from ripping people off*.


* Sorry, as you can tell I'm not a big fan of record companies.  :)

Sadly, I tend to agree.

At least we have the old catalog of albums to enjoy.

I'll tell you the reason the label has not dropped them. Their debut album sold 30 million copies, the UYI albums sold 30 million collectively, at least. With that kind of return, the label expects a good amount of money to be brought in. Like you said, they're in the business of making money. After spending over 10 million dollars on it, they see nothing wrong with giving it some more funding. They've got plenty of money, and the label still expects to make a profit. If theres a profit, then they wont drop the band.

Exactly what I was thinking,why bother anyone by asking question that'll never get answered anyway?  :smoking:

the answer...is NO album this year..

I'll have to disagree with that. The label has, reportedly, stopped paying Guns N' Roses to make the album. So the reason they haven't dropped them is because they expect to either make some money from Guns or at lease not lose any anymore.

why'd you edit my response in your quote, and cut out my point?

Because he couldn't argue it.

um i thought this was a forum to get some answers,not to get flamed by the people who run it,holy shit stop being so defensive.         

So as far as we're concerned the album won't be coming out this year until further notice?

Correct.

Please turn off the light if you are the last to leave.

The guy didn't even disagree with you in the end as well! He just thought he did!  You said basically "They won't drop GNR as the record company can make money from them" and then he said "They haven't dropped GNR because they can make money out of them"

don't forget that GNR discography as a whole is still making some serious dollars....dropping a profitable entity from your roster is plain stupid....the record company will be able to milk the gnr legacy for at least another 20 years without a problem.....

either way, i think its weird to keep them purely in the hope of makind decent money, or at least not losing any.

and gnr will sell nowhere near 3omil nowadays, no band does, those days are gone. I simply dont think gnr sales can be that important to them. the point about their back catalogue that someone made is a good one, but i guess time will tell. anyone turned out that light yet?

it's weird to keep them purely in the hope of making decent money?? 


Making money is what it's all about.   If they're profitable now and there is the chance of them being MORE profitable in the future then that means $ now and $$ later.    That's what business is all about.

The record label is not a non-profit organization.   They WANT to make money.  Music is purely a vehicle for that, their number one objective is profit. 

yeah i agree, but wouldnt the profit (based on reports of expenditure which i realise may be incorrect) they would need to make MASSIVE?

even if what they need to make would be massive its irrelevant because dropping them means no revenue from GNR, whereas CD will generate cash that will offset a fair amount of their losses, or create a profit

and remember GNR also released their greatest hits which will have decreased any loss so far

the record company would lose money by dropping guns n roses, its that simple

Yes, but they might as well try and recoup some of it. For the sake of argument assume the reported 13 million spent on the album by the label is correct and also that they cut funding in 04. This leaves the label with 13 million of expenditure on CD and no profit. If they dropped GNR now they have still spent that 13 million and then have no album to try and recoup any of it. If they keep GNR on the label and GNR releases CD, admittedly it might not make 13 million but even if it only makes 7 million (for example) the label is still better off than if they dropped GNR.

fair enough, up to a point i agree with you both. but they make more out of them ONLY if there are more releases - CD or otherwise, if you discount the relatively small income from the back catalogue.

but you both talk a lot of sense and you didnt flame!  :beer:

stop talking out of your ass....how the fuck would you know how much they make out of gnr's back catalogue?

"a relatively small income"...?....what is a relatively small income to you?

the only album that is going to come out is g'nr
2002/2006 era..
we can all kiss new g'nr ass goodbye..

Just to weigh in on why they haven't dropped GNR , i think it's been stated. They've already spent so much money on this project , dropping it would make a big loss. If CD is released and its makes a dollar its still better than dropping the band and not getting anything...

Dind't they just recovered the money with Greatest Hits already?

yeah, they did, but corporates don't work like that...they got their cash back, but they will still consider CD to be the one which has to "repay" itself....sneaky bastards....but that's business...