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Title: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: SLCPUNK on September 12, 2007, 02:05:58 AM
ERIE, Pa. - An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen ? which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit ? would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: polluxlm on September 12, 2007, 03:38:05 AM
This is all over the news now, right?


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on September 12, 2007, 07:39:13 AM
This is all over the news now, right?

Yeah kinda weird.. I get local erie stations, and this was initally there quite a while ago... Now I see it all over..

Awesome tho  : ok:


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Grouse on September 12, 2007, 07:46:05 AM
hmm how long before this guy turns into the next Stanley Meyer  ::)


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Lucky on September 12, 2007, 07:53:31 AM
now that's gonna be interesting.
imagine... you get one of those things... point it at the sea... light it up... and next thing you know... you have an instant fish barbecue.
great way to solve world hunger :)

I wonder if you could make ice burn as well :)


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: The Dog on September 12, 2007, 01:03:47 PM
now that's gonna be interesting.
imagine... you get one of those things... point it at the sea... light it up... and next thing you know... you have an instant fish barbecue.
great way to solve world hunger :)

I wonder if you could make ice burn as well :)


i thought the same thing, how will the military use this to their advantage.  nice way to blow up/damage some countries navy.  put one of these on a satellite and throw another air craft carrier on the barbie!!!   :-\


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: mrlee on September 12, 2007, 01:36:25 PM
since someone already invented a engine which runs on water, but he died before finished so one of the oil companies bought it and are keeping it until they have made all the money they can on fuel.

im guessing this guy wil lget bought out also.


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: freedom78 on September 12, 2007, 04:00:29 PM
So if we can convince Manbearpig to swim in the ocean...we can set the oceans on fire and kill him!  Hooray, I'm going to kill Manbearpig! 

I'm super, super serial.


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Robman? on September 12, 2007, 04:20:10 PM
since someone already invented a engine which runs on water, but he died before finished

well, thats convenient. sounds like someone wanted him gone.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: fuckin crazy on September 12, 2007, 06:52:53 PM
I'll reserve judgement untill I see something published.


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Perfect Criminal on September 12, 2007, 07:44:35 PM
If true, and if it can fuel cars, then this is probably the single greatest invention/discovery since the Car itself.  Imagine if they could run a power plant on salt water.  Pretty cool if its true.


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Prometheus on September 12, 2007, 07:57:36 PM
meh........well it is a very remarkable advancement..........but my question is, how is an engine going to function with all that salt gumming her up? I guess gumming up is not the proper statement.... how about being imbeded intot he engine causing insanely high friction and destroying its self.......... best bet from me is that refining the technology to create a more efficient hydrogen extraction process for use with fuel cell vehicles.... that way big oil can cornor the market too :P


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: fuckin crazy on September 12, 2007, 08:15:24 PM
What is the by products. H, O, Na, Cl, N, and C can produce some very nasty stuff.


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Perfect Criminal on September 12, 2007, 08:27:36 PM
What is the by products. H, O, Na, Cl, N, and C can produce some very nasty stuff.

Dude, focus on the possibilities.  This could affect the entire world in such as positive way.  Why look at all the potential negatives at this point?


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: The Chad Cometh on September 12, 2007, 08:41:11 PM
since someone already invented a engine which runs on water, but he died before finished so one of the oil companies bought it and are keeping it until they have made all the money they can on fuel.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What's your source buddy?


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: SLCPUNK on September 12, 2007, 08:56:43 PM
meh........well it is a very remarkable advancement..........but my question is, how is an engine going to function with all that salt gumming her up? I guess gumming up is not the proper statement.... how about being imbeded intot he engine causing insanely high friction and destroying its self.......... best bet from me is that refining the technology to create a more efficient hydrogen extraction process for use with fuel cell vehicles.... that way big oil can cornor the market too :P

Well I'm more concerned about producing energy than how it will function in an auto.

I'd also think it may operate slightly different than our current combustion automobile. Just a hunch...


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: SLCPUNK on September 12, 2007, 08:58:56 PM
since someone already invented a engine which runs on water, but he died before finished so one of the oil companies bought it and are keeping it until they have made all the money they can on fuel.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What's your source buddy?


It wasn't a Delorean by chance?


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: fuckin crazy on September 12, 2007, 09:13:20 PM
What is the by products. H, O, Na, Cl, N, and C can produce some very nasty stuff.

Dude, focus on the possibilities. This could affect the entire world in such as positive way. Why look at all the potential negatives at this point?

Dissociation of water is an area of research that has been ongoing for years. There are some promising avenues, however, I would like to see a paper for this research before I speculate as to the possibilities. It could turn out to be the salvation for the energy woes we all now face, but I doubt it. Perpeptual energy cannot happen, it takes energy to extract energy. How many watts are used to produce 1 joule? I'm sure you remember the simple experiments in lab that produced H and O from salt water; it is not that hard to do, but it is not economically feasible to produce energy by that method. However, I am intrigued by this story.


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: SLCPUNK on September 12, 2007, 09:20:42 PM


Dissociation of water is an area of research that has been ongoing for years. There is some promising avenues, however, I would like to see a paper for this reseach before I speculate as to the possibilities.

Gargling salt water will prevent strep throat.

You can put that in your column dude.


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on September 13, 2007, 09:28:28 AM
What kind of paper proof do you guys need?? Havent you seen the video??


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: Prometheus on September 14, 2007, 11:21:05 AM
meh........well it is a very remarkable advancement..........but my question is, how is an engine going to function with all that salt gumming her up? I guess gumming up is not the proper statement.... how about being imbeded intot he engine causing insanely high friction and destroying its self.......... best bet from me is that refining the technology to create a more efficient hydrogen extraction process for use with fuel cell vehicles.... that way big oil can cornor the market too :P

Well I'm more concerned about producing energy than how it will function in an auto.

I'd also think it may operate slightly different than our current combustion automobile. Just a hunch...

ya dont say.............. ok then what do you do with the other elements that are removed from the water b4 use in in new "super engine designed by the punker" or if for arguements sake we use the seperated H and O in Fuel Cell vehicles same problem applies you still have a tonne of other crap to get rid of. Being real with this, the same process should be able to be used on distilled water, just a diffrent frq then applied to the salt water, that is what you should be looking at. Then the next question is mass De Sal projects, what do you do with all the crap you take out of the ocean? dump it back in? ahhhh sure np but for the mass amounts of minerals being removed then returned to the oceans will change the balence of the salt content which has been increasing for decades due to human progress and expansion, which in turn damages fish stocks and the ocean ecosystem as a whole.... no to mention it can cause changes in ocean temperatures light penetration etc etc.....

While I do see the massive engery potential that this break through does provide for, Not even a relgious person can see this as being the engery saviour we have looked for for so long. ANyone with have a clue can look at this and see the great benifits that i could provide.... but only thouse with a clue will also weigh the downsides with the good to get a proper picture of what this can mean, and ask the proper question to become informed. But hey this is still a watch and shoot topic......BZ


Title: Re: Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
Post by: SLCPUNK on September 14, 2007, 02:46:54 PM


ya dont say.............. ok then what do you do with the other elements that are removed from the water b4 use in in new "super engine designed by the punker" o

Ewww...ahhh....."Super engine designed by the punker". That has a ring to it!