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The title of Indy 4 has been announced.


http://www.movieweb.com/news/15/22615.php


The title of the new Indiana Jones adventure, now in production under the direction of Steven Spielberg, is Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, it was revealed today by actor Shia LaBeouf.

LaBeouf, who stars in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull with Harrison Ford, Cate Blanchett, Karen Allen, Ray Winstone and John Hurt, announced the title during today's MTV Video Music Awards, which were broadcast live from Las Vegas.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is a Lucasfilm Ltd. and is being distributed by Paramount Pictures. It will be released in the U.S. and simultaneously in most territories worldwide on Thursday, May 22, 2008. Frank Marshall returns as producer, with Kathleen Kennedy joining George Lucas as executive producer.

Sounds cool.... I know I will be watching....

PLEASE don't screw up the series.

Really looking forward to this. Shame that Sean Connery declined..

What he said ^^^

Lots of interesting stuff, including a weirdly interesting documentary from the 70s (?) covering the historical "crystal skull," on aintitcool:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33975

I'm getting pretty excited about this mambyjahambo.

About time that they announced the title ...


heres hoping that they don't mess it up.Which they should.

how many threads are there for this topic ?

yey - cash ins!

well now we have an official thread, now that the name is known  : ok:

The teaser trailer for the new movie has been released. I think it looks good. Really good. I like the trailer alot.  :smoking:


http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/indianajones.html?showVideo=1

same here.  i was skeptical about how it would be, but the trailer has put a lot of fears to rest.  the music alone makes the trailer good.

Im pissed i gotta wait 3 months. I just watched it again. I really cant wait to see this movie.  : ok: :smoking:

Yeh, Harrison looks great! Go Indy!  : ok:

Looks like in this film Indy also has a younger sidekick.

Saw the trailer yesterday!  8) It looks like an Indiana Jones movie, which is a good thing.

The Star Wars prequels sucked IMO, I had such high hopes for them. I was waiting for something that would have been more like the old movies and got something that was too computer generated and didn't have the same kind of fun dialogue that the old ones had. So I hope I won't be disappointed this time. (Well... if it sucks I'll just have to deny it's existence and stick to the old movies like I did with SW.)  :P

yea it looks good. i wouldnt worry about it cuz of the prequels, george lucas directed the prequels, we've got steven fuckin' spielberg directing this bad boy. george lucas only helped with the story, which is the only thing hes good for. the guy cant direct or write good dialogue to save his life.

Well, I for one wasn't blown exactly away...

The look? Aye, go on then.
But the tone? I'm not so sure...

The tone is gonna be more Last Crusade. Both Lucas and Speilberg have said as much. The trailer fits that tone.  :smoking:

I thought that the movie was supposed to be closest in tone to Raiders?

The younger sidekick is his son(supposedly with Marion from Raiders).

I thought the trailer looked great. Lots of action and comedy.

They are in the warehouse where the Ark of the Covenant was stored ... this thing is gonna be fucking epic!  : ok:

Though, that ain't actually been confirmed, best I know.

But we all know that it is, eh.

True enough. I should have said..The younger sidekick is(supposedly)his son, blah, blah.

But you're right, that's the rumor.

looks good! although I knew it would....just wish indy wasnt so much like "spiderman" with the whip in this one..

New trailer for the movie at indianajones.com.

Looks great!

wow that trailer was really cool, nice to Indy rockin' a RPG.

cant believe this comes out in less than 3 weeks.

Definately be the first movie I see this year at the drive in :beer:

If this film had been released in the 1980's, I am sure it would have influenced the Iron Maiden classic 'Run to the Hills'  :hihi:

I rarely see a movie in the theater, but this one I will go out & see........

Been a fan of the franchise ever since my grandfather took me to see Raiders when I was a kid.

I'm really excited for the new Indy movie.

Spielberg always knows how to make and market movies for American audiences and he seems like he wants to pay homage to Indy fans and attempt to make the best Indy ever. I don't know if it can beat out The Last Crusade, but it'll definitely beat out Temple of Doom at the very least.

Great to see Harrison back on the big screen too. I miss his smartass humor.

P.S. Blade Runner = top 10 movies ever.

From Imdb:

I caught an advanced screening of the fourth Indiana Jones movie and I say I enjoyed it IMMENESLY!!! Wow, for years now I thought that after "War of The Worlds" Spielberg has lost his touch; not so here. Here he returns to the basic fundamentals of the lost arts of practicality and just plain good old fashioned genuine storytelling (something that's solely lacking in today's CGI-heavy world) helped along by the big guy himself Harrison Ford along with witty and charming Shia LaBeouf as a newcomer to the franchise with George Lucas lending some support to cinematography. Ford is simply amazing as the venerable adventurer with lots of impressive stunt work. Everything is bigger and better than before, the action is of high-caliber, the plot is thorough and exciting with intelligent writing coupled with awesome special effects. But what really surprised me was that it looked like it was filmed in the 1980's; something that's rare in this Digital Age!!! I'm sure those accustomed to digital film-making may be put off, but it actually works really well and gives the film an added dose of nostalgia and sense of wonder that Spielberg brought so successfully in his past films. Not many films can achieve that feat, but I can strongly say that Spielberg has gone out on top and brought back one the most beloved cinematic heroes around for one more time.

I welcome a sequel with open arms.

What a load of hyperbloic rubbish!, it reads as if it were written by the studio.

Which one though, eh? Directors cut? Original? Both...

If a 65 year old man with a whip is your thing, then the new Indiana Jones is for you  :hihi:

 :rofl:

I dont care about his age. Its fucking Indiana Jones.  :hihi: Besides he looks good in the trailers. I can't wait to see this movie.  :smoking:

It's not that hard to understand why it's anticipated by many people, whether he's in his 60's or not. It's probably one of the two greatest(characters, stories, movies) of all time. The other being the original Star Wars.
People around here anticipate the next(album, song, comment) from someone they really respect and admire, and have waited a long time for this too.

Of course it is highly anticipated, particularly because for a while it seemed like this film was never going to come out. I think this is a big moment in contemporary film, if not films of all time, considering the legacy of the original trilogy to this day.

But at the same time, regardless of any reviews, hype etc, I'm still not going into this film with any expectations, particularly high.

We know, apart from money, one of the main motivations behind this film is nostalgia.

Without considering box office turnaround, since it IS one of the most highly anticipated films ever;

In terms of content, this film could either be a modern classic that recaptures the magic of the previous films and takes a worthy place in the franchise;

Or, it could be trying too hard to recapture past glories..

i believe harrison ford originally signed up for 4 movies. the long gap in between last crusade and this one is because it took george lucas so long to come up with a story and then of course get the script written by someone.


and yeah i dont care if hes 100 years old, its fucking INDIANA JONES!!!  : ok:

this guy is a beloved character and a hero from when i was a kid. i cant fucking wait.

Theres a cool article up at ign called Excavating Indy. It talks about the development hell the movie went through as well as some stuff about the new one.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/872/872300p1.html     :smoking:

Eh, I loved the privious movies, and I'll check this one out. I really hope I'm wrong, but based on the trailer, it looks as its just another action movie that relies on CGI special effects instead of a good story. T3 was the same way. Big dissapointment.

Less than a week away folks..

I can't wait :beer:

It is officially shown in Cannes tonight  : ok:

Ok, not a run of hysterics, but good aplause, not failure.

Journalists present tonight say it is good value for the money, a full circle has come to an end, but one said he was bored.

Basically.

Out in 3 days.

I see your point, but I think that Indiana Jones reeks of classic Hollywood. Fun, exciting, and over-the-top fantasy. Even though I love darker, grittier movies with more mature themes, to me it seems like cinema has become far too polluted with cynicism and overwrought with cheesy remakes of original franchises and ripping ideas from comic books and video games. You may say, well Indiana Jones is cheesy. Well, in a way yes, but fact is Indiana Jones is sold as a fun over-the-top movie akin to the old TV serials like Flash Gordon, etc. A movie like Spider-Man 3 is sold as completely dark and sinister in tone but contains a bunch of jibberish. It's a penguin trying to be a bengal tiger.


I'm a fan of them all (and have seen them all) but I'm the biggest fan of the latest "Final Cut". Even though I like some sections from other versions that were omitted in the final cut, I like that "that's the movie". It's done, finished, no more changes.

ive never actually seen any of them ,other than the third one when i was younger. so ive took to watching them.

i watched the first one last night, that was great, bit of comedy but it was done in the right places, good story, some great stunts and effects for the time it was made also.

ive watched half of temple of doom, finishing rest tommorow. So far i think its bollocks. Loads of comedy to the point its effecting certain scenes too much, and that little kid that follows him around is god damn annoying, i hate it when they do that, it feels like they are purposefully marketing it towards children.

The first one had a great setting, i liked the use of the nazi's in it also. And the ending with them, was great XD. Temple of doom is not doing much.

There is a 'red carpet' premiere here in Sydney tonight May 21 (was excited because I thought some of the major cast would be coming but apparently its only Cate Blanchett) and they will screen the movie tonight, then it officially opens tomorrow for public release, and I've taken the day off work and me and my friend are having an Indy marathon before we head off in the afternoon to watch it.

(This is the kind of thing I'm hoping for when Chinese Democracy eventually comes out also)

Glad you finally got to watch them all

"Temple of Doom" generally gets the least positive reviews of the three, but people usually like Shorty's (the little kid who follows him around) character and so do I. It just adds a great contrast with Indy, Willie and Shorty.

I think all the three films have different merits for me.

The Temple of Doom has always been my favorite part of the trilogy.

Gotta' love the stone crusher scene, and the bridge scene :)

Saw it last night. It was pretty good. I'd say 8 to 8.5 out of 10

There are some major things people could nitpick about but considering what the overall subject of the film winds up being about, the movie isn't exactly grounded in reality. Just sit back and enjoy.

I wont give any specifics so I dont ruin anything but I'm pretty sure the ending will throw some people. John Hurt stole the scenes he was in as"Ox". For those that like to wait for the surprises at the end of the credits, dont. There aren't any.

going to see this tonight @ 8.45, really looking forward to it as I haven't been to the movies since spiderman 3 and that sucked big time.

Reports have been pretty positive so far

Ok, I saw it last night..

Walked away with too many mixed feelings, negatives overshadowing the positives.

It was great seeing Harrison onscreen again, and still as strong, fit and dynamic as ever even at 65. I also enjoyed the little throwback references to the previous films. Overall the film is fun, and a nice nostalgic piece. I actually thought Shia's character was a nice contrast with Indiana, almost like a younger version of him, but he didn't really get to click with Indy because there were too many sidekicks taking attention.

Now, the negatives. I felt that the two other side kicks (the English guy and that "Ox" character) were unnecessary most of the time. I thought the storyline had potential, but it was not developed enough, the storyline felt too rushed. The previous three films had a plot, but there was also nice character development in between, if that makes sense. All the action scenes were great, but I thought there were just too many of them there for the sake of having them.

You may or may not have heard about the major 'discovery' in the film, as well as 'the ending'.. What I can say about this is that the aforementioned lack of character development ended up making these scenes rather abrupt and without climax. The ending wasn't as triumphant as the previous ones.. it didn't really feel like the film 'built' to anything.

But overall I'd probably give the film 6/10, just because of Harrison (and the references to the previous films).

I caught a midnight showing and liked it alot however regarding the ending...

Spoiler warning, dont read anymore if you haven't seen it.






I thought it fit with the context of the film. They used the myth that crystal skulls came from some type of "alien" and through out the film they refer to roswell, area 51 and several other "alien" refrences. The ending fit exactly how the story went and I feel without the flying saucer at the end it would not have fit with the story they built the film upon. In the end though they said these "aliens" came from a different dimension which people seem to be forgetting based on what i've read. They didnt come from outer space they were interdimensional creatures. I liked how they used everything we know about aliens from all the stories over the years and than concluded the film without them being aliens from space at all.

People seem to regard religious artifacts such as the ark or the holy grail as a more believable than the crystal skulls from this film and i entirely disagree with that argugment. Though I do agree that using religion is an easy way to "ground" a story because most believe in it but i believe its just as believable as interdimensial creatures made purely of some type of magnetic crystal.

I do feel the ending was somewhat anti-climactic. Not the saucer scene, i thought it fit very well, but when the russians show up again and they just put the skull on and leave...with all the action in the film, which i loved, the end needed some type of difficulty with that last task of putting the skull on. I don't see after going through all the trouble to get the skull, the russian just lets em put it on and thats it. It just seemed very weird that she chased them through the jungle and fought very hard for the skull to just do what they were gonna do. That is what felt anti-climactic to me. But i still loved the film.

This post is prolly too long and really not needed, its just ive been home sick today and have been bored and reading all day about people dissing the movie and the ending and finally decided to comment about it here.   ;D  :smoking:

She wanted to be the one to return the skull because the legend went that who ever returned it would gain all knowledge, ................ or something to that effect.

You made good points though. They were very accurate with the actual legend of the crystal skulls, Lucas and Spielberg didnt just pull that out of their ass.

Saw it tonight, I enjoyed it and felt it definitely fits into the context and a good solid Indiana Jones film for the franchise..

I enjoyed it, but  was - as expected - underwhelmed.  Parts were laugh-out-loud funny, and reminded me why I like the character (and the franchise) so much, but for the most part, it all seemed like it simply didn't "fit" with the look and style of the other films.  It's just my opinion, but by the time the chase scene with the ridiculously-fake looking digitized vine swinging hit, it was clear that this wasn't the Indiana Jones that I remembered (and nor should it be, I know).  If I wanted to see absurd, over-the-top green screen effects, I'd watch Spider-Man 3 or any of the Stars Wars prequels instead.  Set again the backdrop of the 1950's, it just seemed ridiculous and very out of place.  It was far from awful overall, but I can't say I have a desire to see it again.

Thought it was going to suck but---loved it! As good as the first three (and I liked TOD the best). Great summer pop-corn film.

Saw it at the drive in last night.

While it was fairly entertaining, I found it didn't have the same magic of the original trilogy.

I saw it yesterday, and like most everyone else, I thought it was good but not the best. Some scenes were too long, some characters were unnecessary, and Indy seemed to be following more than leading, sometimes.
Having said all that, I still enjoyed it alot. There were some really funny moments as well as some great action. Shia was better than I expected him to be, too.
Overall I'd give it a 6-7 out of 10.

People will accept anything these days, thats why music is so poor and why we have Gordon Brown and George Bush as world leaders

The first three Indiana Jones films are the definitions of classics, funny, family friendly with a sense of adventure few films can rival

Crystal Skull was an excercise in absurdity - from dated effects, non existent story telling and increasingly outrageous set pieces you could have instantly worked out George Lucas had been involved

What was at stake in that film? Other than a unique ability over CGI ants - what did the Crystal Skull even do???? Why not just let Comrade Russian have it?

Very poor movie, especially when compared against the original 3.  Mutt swinging like Tarzan in the jungle?  Are you serios Steve and George? 

A few good scenes, but mostly absurd.  They could have done an alien movie with Indiana Jones that could of been good.  Indy was good, Mutt was good, Marion was weak and the writing was weak.

man, Mutt swinging was one of my favorite parts.  You dont get more pulp than a greaser swinging through the jungle to fight russians over an alien head.

Message board movie reviews crack me up.  All it is is people finding reasons to NOT like a film.  Trying to find and point out flaws so they can sound like they truley know film.  If Temple of Doom had come out in the age of the internet, the same people would be bitching about that film too.  Crystal Skull was a good movie. Raiders is one of the greatest movies ever. Of course its not that good.

SPOILER

Although my expectations were low, this movie did not even come close to meeting them.  I predicted that the main problem with the movie would be Ford's age, but, to my surprise, I thought Ford did a great job.  In fact, I don't think he skipped a beat.  The problem for me was not the acting but the script and the plot.  From the start, I did not like the movie.  Each of the first three movies had fantastic opening scenes.  By contrast, this movie's opening was simply terrible.  It was so unbelieveable it was almost laughable.  For instance, I knew the movie had no chance once Ford got into the refrigerator and was thrown by the nuclear bomb.  Furthermore, I also felt that the character development was horrible, and the entire movie seemed rushed.   

More fundamentally, I thought the biggest problem with the movie was the alien plot line.  Not only was it inconsistent with the Ark/grail plot lines from the past -- I think the religious plot lines are inconsistent with an alien plot line -- but it is also a bit different than the historical themes of the past.  I know there are many that will claim that the religious plot lines are just as unreal, but the religious plot lines are at least somewhat historically based.  This plot line was a supernatural, science fiction plot line.  There were so many different historical stories that they could have done that would have been more interesting and more in line with the previous films.  Over the last few years I read time and time again that they went through a plethora of scripts because they could not find one that everyone liked.  If this was the winner, I would be scared to read the other scripts.

I am usually one of those people that hate when people look too critically at action/adventure movies.  Indeed, I may be in the minority of those that actually liked the Star Wars prequels.  This movie, however, given the possiblities, missed its mark.

No... That's not it.. The film is just plain bad, and almost stupid. Like Izzy said, there's no plot, you don't know what they're searching for, and you don't know what that skull does. Ford was great on it, but the script is so ridiculous, he couldn't save it. Blanchett was terrible and sounded really forced. And that Ox character, wtf was that??

You can really tell where Gerge Lucas "is" in the film. He has proved he has such a bad taste on the three Star Wars prequels, and once again. WTF was that monkey scene?? OMG!

Don't even get me started on how Indy survives the most absurd things throughout the movie.

I know Indiana Jones is supposed to entertain. And the first three ones really do. But this one really does not, and it's embarassing

Not to get you started, but...  I giant boulder, a wall of arrows, the ark of the covenant, a fall out a window from the top floor, a skydiving raft, a rope bridge fall, a plane dogfight, etc.... You see my point?   The fridge was pushing it a bit, but its still the same.

First off, they were searching for Ox,  which leads them to the crystal skull.  Was it really that hard to figure out?  And as far as what the skull did, nobody knew.  That was the point.  Legend said it would unlock the city.  But the characters wouldnt assume that it was an alien head.   Why would they? The russians seemed to know more than anyone.

I see some people around here who say that script was bad, but dont really say how.  Or they say that they see Lucas' fingerprints everywhere, but again, how?  Yes Lucas came up with the story, but he did not direct the movie. 

Yeah, but even if you suspend disbelief with the original trilogy, all the actions scenes were shot in a way which made them look realistic, whereas with The Crystal Skull, the chase scene through the woods and onwards look fake and ridiculous as hell.

And it's not just the action scenes from that point in the movie and onwards that look fake as hell, it's also the backgrounds and settings.

In the original trilogy, pretty much every setting I can think of looked realistic, whereas in The Crystal Skull, all the settings from the chase scene in the woods and onwards look overly computerized, and ultimately fake.

Very disappointed in this last movie. Boring with no plot and a bad story.

Ive been quoting various people to my friends saying how shit this movie is. and they insist on going today.

Sounds like im gonna be wasting some money, id rather see Iron Man.

Agreed. Mostly because people in general like to bitch about that movie. The kid is annoying, the girl is annoying, last 30minutes are stupid.
Had to be said!

Wasn't quite what I expected but it wasnt bad, like Lucas and Spielberg say, it's just a B-movie  :hihi:

Didn't have the same kind of "puzzle" solving as the previous movies but it offered the same kind of Indy adventure, 8,5/10

wow. ive just watched this. whats everyones problem it was great.

i liked it as much as the first. and enjoyed it far more than the other movies in the series.

There were so stupidly over the top stuff, but every indie movie has that.

This one was pure looney tunes. I grew up with the others, so they have a special place in my heart. Popcorn bliss.