Here Today... Gone To Hell!

axl4prez - great idea, there should definitely be a seperate thread for this.? : ok:

you and high_times gave me some valuable thoughts - i appreciate it. i think you're probably right on alexander. i'm gonna go with him if he's available. if someone take him before me, i'm guessing gore will be there and i'll go with him.

i'm in a 10-team league with no keepers (we have some owners reluctant to change). key scoring is like this:

TD passes = 4
yards rushing/receiving = 1 point per10 yards
yards passing = 1 point per 20 yards

we start 1 RB, 2WR, 1TE plus 2 FLEX that can be either of those 3 positions. and 1 QB, 1 K, 1 D/ST.

I really don't think there's a HUGE difference between guys 2-10.  LT is the only one who stands alone in my opinion.  I'd have to go with Jackson, LJ, then probably Addai, Gore.  But the difference between those 4 and the next 5 aren't that great in my opinion.  Steer clear of Ronnie Brown, he really hasn't show much and that offense is far from high powered.  In a 10 team league if you don't get Gates you might as well wait to pick TE as one of your last picks, same with Defense if you don't get Chicago or Baltimore, and obviously kicker.

Sandman, interesting.  I'm always intrigued by other leagues' scoring systems.  Your qbs get 2 less points for tds, but it's probably made up for as yours get a point every 20 yards, and we get a point every 25 yards passing.

On the keeper front, I eased my league into things.  About 3 or 4 years into a traditional 12-team league, we made it so that each team could keep 1 player...the catch?  If you kept a player, you forfeited your 1st round draft pick (which I always randomly generated via some pre-determined state lottery's winning numbers.  So, unless I could fix the Idaho's a.m. pick-4, it was random!

Things went well, but I wanted to step it up a notch.  For Year 8 we went to a dynasty set-up with an auction draft and things have been awesome since.  I've got built-in preventions in the system to prevent one or two teams from dominating so that keeps everybody happy year in and year out.

Now.....2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

qbs, 6pts/td, -2pts/int., 1pt./25 passing yards, 1pt./10 rushing yards
rbs + wrs + tes, 6pts/td, 1pt/10 rushing yards, 1pt/10 receiving yards
kickers 0-34 yd fg's 3 points, 35-39 4points, 40-44 5 points, 45-49 6 points, 50-54 7 points, 55+ 8.  xtra point 1 point.
missed 0-29, -3 points....missed 30-39 -1 point.
defense, points allowed: 0-6 = 12pts, 7-13 = 9pts, 14-20 = 6pts, 21-27 = 3 points, 28+ = 0pts
                                        sacks 2 points, fumble recoveries and interceptions each = 3pts.  tds 6pts. safeties 2 pts.

12 teams. starting lineup: 1qb, either 1rb/3wr, or 2rb/2wr, 1te, 1k, 1def.  No special teams or defensive players. 

My squad...whaddaya think?  I know it's tough to rate when ya don't have all the teams, but here goes:
QB:  Romo, Hasselbeck, B. Quinn
RB:  Alexander, A. Peterson (MIN), F. Taylor, L. Jordan, J. Norwood
WR:  T. Holt, An. Johnson, R. Moss, C. Johnson (DET)
TE:  Heap, Witten
K:  Wilkins, Nedney
DEF:  Steelers, Dolphins

I can't wait for the season to start.   :beer:

Good luck guys, and announce those fantasy teams.  Sandman, with a 10-team league, your squad will obviously be a lot stronger than mine.  Sounds like grabbing good rb's will be key in your scoring format.  Good luck Sandman.  :peace:

finished the draft a little while ago. here's my squad (with round):

QB: brady (4), cutler (12)
RB: alexander (1), r. brown (2), a. peterson (3), b. jackson (7), m. morris (16)
WR: driver (5), coles (6), clayton [8], d. henderson (10), b. marshall (11), b. jones (13)
TE: cooley (9)
K: graham (14)
D: Eagles (15)

i usually wait until rounds 7-12 to draft a few QBs and was targeting guys like Kitna, Bulger, Rivers, Leinart, and cutler. i was gonna take Housh with that 4th round pick but decided Brady was probably better value there - i had him ranked as the #3 QB.

your team looks solid. you're WRs could be deadly...you may end up starting 3 some weeks. but hopefully peterson turns into a stud. TEs are real strong, and i'm not a romo fan but that's just because i bleed green.   :hihi:

sounds like a cool league. we have a couple people that are reluctant to change, and we never all get together for the draft (half of us draft online). so auctions are tough and get turned down every year. and then we have about 2 new owners a year due to people dropping out. and it would be tough to find someone to put up money to inherit someone else's keepers.

but i agree....can't wait for the season to start!

good luck to everyone!

I'm playing in three leauges this year. One for money, which is the second time we've done this leauge. One for mostly family only, which is the 7th time i've done this leauge. And One I joined cuz my brother in law needed an extra guy one year for his work leauge and have been playing in it ever since, which is for 4 years. All 3 leauges are standard draft, with the money and work one being 12 players and family 10 players. We do live drafts for 2 of them but do the yahoo automated draft for the family leauge.

So far I've drafted only for the Money Leauge, so I'll just post that team. I'm not too happy with it, but I like my rbs and wr's. My qb's suck. We do one QB position, 2 WR positions, 2 RB positions, 1 RB/WR position, 1 TE Position and one defense and kicker. 6 bench spots. so 15 spots on your roster.

For points we do 6 per touchdown, no matter how it was gotten, 1 pt per 30 yards passing, 1 pt per 10 yards recieving or rushing, -2 for fumbles and interceptions. +2 for 2pt conversion. defense gets +1 for sacks and +2 for turnovers recovered. +2 for safteys and blocked kicks. Points Allowed 0 points (10), Points Allowed 1-6 points (7),Points Allowed 7-13 points (4), Points Allowed 14-20 points (1), Points Allowed 21-27 points (0), Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1),Points Allowed 35+ points (-4) And finally kicking gets Field Goals 0-19 Yards (1), Field Goals 20-29 Yards (2), Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3), Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4), Field Goals 50+ Yards (5), Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-2), Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1), Point After Attempt Made (1), Point After Attempt Missed (-1).

So heres my draft results for my money leauge. I'm not too happy with some picks but at the time I was like fuck it.? :hihi: I pay more attention to the work and family leauges because talking shit with those people has become so much fun.? :rofl:

My Squad: "Brady Is God". Ya im a huge pats fan. I had the number 3 pick in the draft. Truth be told I completly forgot about a Quarterback till round 7 which is why I ended up with such a whole at that position.? :hihi:

QB: Brett Favre (round 7), Joey Harrington (round 13).
RB: Larry Johnson (round 1), Thomas Jones (round 2), Edgerrin James (Round 3), Lendell White (round 12)
WR: Javon Walker (round 4), Hines Ward (round 5), Darrel Jackson (round 08), Joe Horn (round 10), Ashley Lelie (round 15)
TE: Dallas Clark (round 6), Eric Johnson (Round 14)
Def: Dallas (round 9)
Kicker: Stephen Gostkowski (round 11).

Since you can have three rbs in our leauge I really wanted to get Cadillac Williams as my 3rd running back in 5th or 6th round and get a decent qb in the 3rd but completly spaced on quarterbacks and decided to take edge in the 3rd. And than recievers in 4th, 5th and te in 6th. Than once the 7th round came i was like "OH SHIT!" I need a QB.  :hihi:

high-times, normally, I'd be weary of Edgerrin James, but 3rd round is amazing with a rb who has such a weak schedule this year.  Great pic in the 3rd.  LJ should be solid...but did you have a shot at Addai after LT and SJax?  I hope that doesn't haunt you.  I'm not crazy about T. Jones with Leon Washington lurking closely behind and the Jets losing Kendall at O-line.
Was Vincent Jackson gone before Darrell Jackson?  Just curious.  Plus, the Pats fan gets Gostkowski, that's always cool to have a guy from your fav team.  That's my Viking, Adrian Peterson.   Now, Dallas Clark and the Cowboys defense should be good.  Demarcus & co. will have fun with the Redskins and Giants.   

One more thing, I've been burned before doing the same thing. (waiting on qb)  It has helped me and burned me at different times.  I remember one year I took running backs with the 1st 4 draft picks.  :hihi:  If I remember correctly, it was the season Lawrence Phillips was looking so good.  I took him in the 4th round.  Ouch!

Now for sandman's squad: 
QB: brady (4), cutler (12)
RB: alexander (1), r. brown (2), a. peterson (3), b. jackson (7), m. morris (16)
WR: driver (5), coles (6), clayton [8], d. henderson (10), b. marshall (11), b. jones (13)
TE: cooley (9)
K: graham (14)
D: Eagles (15)

Brandon Marshall will be a steal.  Hopefully, Driver is healthy.  Cooley is solid as I see Campbell relying on him a bunch.  I take it Peyton, Palmer and McNabb had already been grabbed before Brady...any other qbs?  4th round seems like a steal, unless every team waited that long for qbs...even if they did it sounds like a steal.  Hopefully Ronnie Brown can surprise.  The dolphins for some reason have been having him return kicks in the pre-season???  Craziness. 

Kick ass in your respective leagues guys.   :beer:  :beer:  :beer:

i hope you're right on marshall - he was one of my sleepers.

brady was the 3rd or 4th QB taken after manning, palmer (and maybe brees).

QBs come off the board a little slow in this league. and we just added the ability to start 3 RBs this year, so it was even slower this year as many tried to get 3 RBs in the first 4 rounds.

mcnabb is a huge injury risk. but if he stays healthy, whoever gets him will get ALOT of value.

My top 5 qbs would be as follows.

1)Peyton Manning--Is a solid performer who's offense is switching back to a primary 3 wide reciever 1 te scheme, so expect Manning to air it out alot this year since their backfield is talented with Addai but very unexperienced.
2)Carson Palmer--The guy is just solid.
3)Drew Brees--Another guy that is just solid. You know he's gonna do good.
4)Mark Bulger--Bulger has been getting better and better every year. Jackson can catch out of the backfield. With the addition of a solid TE and the rams having a solid recieving core I expect big things from Bulger this year. I think brees just slighty edges him out.
5)Tom Brady--I put him at 5 because even with the addition of Moss, Stallworth, and Welker I don't expect to see Brady throwing the ball every down or getting Peyton Manning type numbers. I expect his numbers to have a slight increase due to the talent now around him but I also know the patriots love to run the ball. :smoking:

Yes High Times, Peyton Manning is #1...but the degree to which he'll be better than any other quarterback can't be overstated.  Personally, I think the biggest reason for huuuuge numbers this year for Manning is the Colts defense.  They had some key losses and I think they'll be giving up points...I'm expecting some very high-scoring games in Indy this year and monster numbers from Manning.

I'd put a healthy McNabb at #2, but with injury concerns present being 9 months out from ACL surgery, I'd put him behind Palmer.  Maybe I'm nuts, but I still like McNabb slightly over Brees.  Last year, McNabb was the fantasy leader at qb before the game he got hurt.
Brady is a safe pick.  He's never hurts and always gives you the numbers.  Bulger's fate will depend on Holt's leg.  Apparently (unfortunately for me) Torry's only at 70% right now.  I think he had his knee scoped in the off-season.  Hopefully he comes through for me. 

My top 5 QB's:
#1 (by far) P. Manning
#2 Palmer
#3 McNabb
#4 Brees
#5 Brady

After that it gets very muddy. 

these are my rankings:

1. manning
2. palmer (could end up with the best stats)
3. brady (pats running game will decline and he's gonna throw the ball around to everyone)
4. brees (something is telling me to stay away...injury risk, saints decline?)
5. kitna (td machine)
6. bulger (linehan loves to air it out)
7. mcnabb (injury risk. will the birds be able to throw the deep ball? and will they run the ball more?)
8. rivers
9. cutler
10. leinart
11. romo
12. hasselbeck

by the way, i could have had MJD with my 2nd round pick (15th overall) and am regretting i went with brown there.

and i really wanted to get V. Jackson - i think he may have a big year. could end up being a top 15 WR.

Things look too good for Kitna in my book...I'm sensing a wacky injury there.  The Lions aren't known for protecting their qb too well...also, there is a huge void at running back there.  You need someone in the backfield to take the heat off the qb.  Kevin Jones won't be around until week 6 or 7 if that, and Tatum Bell knows how to fumble and get hurt.  In my league, I took Calvin Johnson because we are a dynasty league and I think the potential is huge down the road.

Sandman, the big plus with Brady is the possibility Maroney can't handle the full load of a full year's pounding.  If that's so, expect Tom to get better and better as the year goes on.

MJD or R. Brown...ehh, not a huge disparity between those 2 in a non-keeper league.  If MJD matches those td numbers from last year I'll be surprised.  Trent Green has to be looked at as an improvement for the 'fins and Joey Porter at LB can only help get the Dolphins better field position.  I think Brown will be better this year than last.

Vincent Jackson will be a nice #2 wr.  Every team will gameplan with LT as the focus...Rivers, Gates and the wrs will benefit.

I didn't see Vince Young on that top 12.  He intrigues me...even with the Madden Curse. :)  His rushing stats will be gaudy to say the least.  The Titans defense wasn't/isn't so hot, so Vince should pad the stats with some garbage time passing yards and a few tds.  I'd probably rate him at 8 on sandman's rankings...with Kitna dropping down in my book.

How about someone start a league and we all join it from the forum and compete against each other?

That sounds like fun.  : ok:

I second that.  Someone get that going, less than a week till the games start.

Okay, I set one up on Yahoo if anyone is interested.

You need the ID# and password to get in.  All other things are negotiable obviously, settings, draft time, etc.

League ID#: 667384
League Name: Here today gone to hell
Password: jarmo
Draft Type: Live Draft 
Draft Time: Mon Sep 3 6:45pm EDT 

Max Teams: 12
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head 
Start Scoring on: Week 1 
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports 
Max Moves: No maximum 
Max Trades: No maximum 
Trade Reject Time: 2 
Trade End Date: November 16, 2007 
Trade Review: League Votes 
Waiver Time: 2 days 
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules 
Playoffs: Week 15 and 16 (4 teams) 
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN 
Stat Categories: Passing Yards (25 yards per point; 2 points at 300 yards; 4 points at 350 yards; 6 points at 400 yards)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-1)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 4 points at 150 yards; 6 points at 200 yards)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point; 2 points at 100 yards; 4 points at 150 yards; 6 points at 200 yards)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (4)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (5)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (6)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-2)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4) 
Fractional Points: Yes 
Negative Points: Yes 

Not sure I can draft at 6:45

I probably have to work till 9:3o pm Eastern

If we can get a time set, I'm game!  I'm sure a lot of us have our own solid fantasy leagues.  This will be good to mix it up with fellow Gunners though!

I'm on vacation now, but I should be available by Monday night...hopefully we can get D in there!  Let me know the time.

Thanks,
Axl4Prez2004   :beer:

Thanks Faldor.  :)

Going to have to make sure I can be here for the draft Monday night. Will let you know.

Tuesday night sounds good too.  I saw that the date is now Tuesday...but can we go just a little earlier than 10:30?  9:30 or 10?  Just curious, it's no big deal. 

Team Jessica Alba is ready to rock.   :beer:
She is so f'ing hot!  :drool:

I get off Monday at 7pm eastern

Tuesday I dont get off work till almost 10pm.........



Monday night would be excellent.

Unfortunately that was the earliest time on Tuesday night.  There's nothing available on Monday anymore, and the only remaining time slots are during the days on Tues. and Wed.  You could always just pre-rank your players if you can't make it or have to leave early, I realize it's kind of late.  And I'm in a couple leagues already myself, but this should be fun.  We need some more players though, I'd like to have at least 10.

i'll be on there tuesday night at 10:30. is there a link for the draft room? i didn't see it on the site.

hopefully everyone makes their picks fast and we can roll through this quickly. i'm gonna pre-rank my players, draft live for the first few rounds (hopefully most of the draft), but if i have to hit the sack, just let yahoo pick automoatically for my last few players.

I don't think you can enter the draft room until an hour before the draft or so.

I'm there.  See ya'll tomorrow night...how does Yahoo determine draft order...there's this one running back I'd love to grab at #1.  I think he plays for the Chargers.  :hihi:

10:30 would be excellent.


I swear I got a feeling that this is the year LT gets injured.

It's a random draft order determined about an hour before the draft.  We still need some more teams so everyone's squad isn't so stacked.

Timanator is going to whip some Candy ass...

you wish timinator could whip Jessica Alba's ass!  Hell, I wish I could whip Jessica Alba's ass.   :hihi:

see you folks later tonight!  hopefully we'll get some more folks in on it.   :beer:

Draft is tomorrow night, not tonight.  We've got 8 so far, I'd like at least 10.  If we stay with 8 I'm thinking of adding a RB and a WR to the roster just to even things out a little.  But we've got one day left for people to sign up.  I did my best on mass e-mailing and PM's.  Hopefully we get more responses.

My bad Faldor, sorry.  See ya'll Tuesday night.   :peace:  Labor Day weekend...I sometimes lose track of days on vacation.

As i'm already in 3 leagues this year, I don't really want to do another. If I did it i know i would probably just forget about it and ignore it and I really hate it when people join fantasy and don't participate at all.

That being said, I willl be near a computer most of tomorrow so if you end up with an odd number, like 9 people, I'll be the 10th to make it even cuz yahoo won't let you draft unless even, but I would perfer not to do a fourth league.  :smoking:

^That's cool.  I have a feeling this isn't a primary league for those participating.  That said, it's something fun to pass the time between now and whenever the hell Chinese Democracy is finally released!  :yes:

P.S. I remember doing a yahoo league with a couple of friends who are not in my established league...the only problem I had with the league was the insane emphasis put on kick returners/punt returners.  The a-hole who set up the league made the scoring system one in which a guy like Wes Welker scored as many points on average as a stud wide receiver.


P.S. 2:  In the league where I'm the commish (12 team league in its 10th season) I'm feeling stressed.  I've got 2 old gimps who are questionable at wide receiver, Holt and R. Moss.  I should probably go with the safety of a healthy Andre Johnson and roll the dice with Holt.  It looks like it will be a game-time decision for me.  Damn, something tells me Bellichik has something up his sleeve...I can totally see him resting Moss all this time knowing he can do some amazing shit come opening day and in the regular season.  Bellichik's always lying about his players' injuries. 

Yeah I'm in 3 leagues already, this'll be my fourth.  Every year I say I'm only gonna do 2 leagues (both money leagues that I've done in the past) but I somehow always end up doing at least 4.  It gets crazy having guys on some teams and going against those same guys in other leagues, but 2 leagues are just for bragging rights so I can survive. 

As for your two leagues, I was in a league for a couple years that emphasized kick returners and you're right about Welker, he got more points than a lot of #1 WR's, too crazy for me.  The league also had individual defensive players, and I'm talking a whole starting roster.  Too much for me.  After the first couple years they decided to make it a keeper league, but let you keep a full starting offense and defense.  It just got too ridiculous for me, I exited stage left.

And as for Holt/Moss.  All I keep hearing about Holt is he's only 80%, moved him down on my list.  I'm a Pats fan (but that doesn't mean I know anything more about Moss' status as Belichick obviously doesn't let information on injuries known.)  Obviously he hasn't played in any live game action yet, he did return to practice today though.  I'd expect him to play Sunday but can't say how much.  I doubt he'd play as much as the other WR's who've been out there for the pre-season, but again you never know with BB.

I've joined the league (team name: Estranged Eagles). I'm already in way too many leagues this year (12, actually . . . LOL . . . Don't worry, though, I'll be active . . .) Anyways, my friends and I are also doing a draft tonight at 9:15, so I don't know how long that will last. It's possible I could miss the first couple of rounds of our draft, but I'll try to make it on time. Anyways, I look forward to playing with you guys!!!!

Cool Gilee.  I like the team name too, very cool.  Good luck in all your drafts.  :peace:

We've got 9 right now, as High_Times said before, we need an even number in order to draft so we need at least 1 more, if not 3.  Everyone check out the updated settings?  Any questions, suggestions, problems?

Okay we've got 10 now with less than 3 hours to go till draft time, so if anyone else wants to sign up make sure you have friend ready to sign up right after you.  10's a good number though, we can deal with 10.

That was fun...god my team sucks!  Thanks to Faldor for doing the work to set up the site.  :beer:

don't feel bad my team sucks pretty hard .....though not as hard as D does...


Thanks and props out to Faldor.

Thanks to all for joining and participating in the draft, too bad you couldn't make it D.  Seems to be an ongoing trend, I think my team sucks too.  I had dreams, er nightmares about it.  You never know though.  Let the games begin on Thursday.  There must be some problems with Yahoo, the teams still aren't set.  My stats for my baseball team haven't popped up yet this morning.  Hopefully they'll fix that by the end of the day so we can set our lineups for opening night tomorrow.

Yeah, I was wondering what the deal was. I still can't see my roster. It acts like the draft is still taking place. Hopefully Yahoo will get it worked out soon, though. I was kinda distracted last night during the draft, so I wasn't able to chat with you guys. From who I remember picking, I believe I have a pretty solid team.

i like my team, but don't love it.

once the rosters are up, we should all list the team that we think is the strongest (excluding your own).

It's difficult to say who has the best team. I think it's going to be a pretty competitive league. There's a lot of balance among the teams.

Let's see . . . ignoring my own team, I really like Mr. Brownstone. He has a great group of WRs, and I like the combo of Maroney and Parker at RB.

Team D is formidable just because he has Peyton Manning. If Portis can stay on the field, I think he'll have a pretty good team.

Team West Allis is going to be tough, mainly because his team is so well-balanced.

Hansen's Kitchen is a pretty good team. Not great, but good.

And, if L.T. even comes close to duplicating last year's number, Silvertide will also be tough to beat. I just don't think he has a lot of depth.

LOL, I named half the league there. But, like I said, it's impossible for me to pick who has the overall best team. If I had to pick, though, I'd say it's between Mr. Brownstone and Team West Allis, with Silvertide close behind.

(But, of course, I'm the best!! LOL.)

I had a LONG day at work today and really haven't had a chance to evaluate all the teams, so I'll just make a quick comment on my own team.  I like my group of WR's and RB's for the most part, though really don't think I have any top flight guys at either position (I'm talking top 5 at the position or so).  Good second and third tier guys though.  I'm worried about my QB's though.  2 young, unproven guys in Romo and Cutler.  Who knows with those guys, I may have to start whoever has the best matchup which isn't the best method.  Much easier to just throw Manning, Brady, Brees, Palmer out there every week minus the bye week.

I think M.I.A. has a real solid squad.  WR's are all good and if Brandon Jacobs and Marshawn Lynch can be productive, that'll be a nice tandem to go with Steven Jackson.

everyone's roster looks good with some questions marks that could make it average or great.

right now i'd say Silvertide's looks the best. serious difference makers at every position - brees, LT, s. smith, davis, vinatieri.

Mr. brownstone and MIA look good as well.

Jessica Alba sure looked good in week one.   :)

I feel like shit for missing the draft. If I win I dont feel good cause i didnt draft it and when my team sucks, Im pissed cause I didnt draft it.

Oh well, Im gonna do the best with what I got.

I hear you.  The draft is only one part of it, though a big one.  Still, you could give the best team ever assembled to someone who doesn't pay close attention and they could still do terrible.  Post draft acquisitions, deciding who to start/sit each week, that's what's important now.  Few championships are won on draft day, so there's still plenty to do.

in my non-HTGTH league, i squeaked out a win this week to get to 1-1. i needed 7.8 points from cooley, and he gave me 8.5 points due to that crazy TD play before the half ended. and he dropped a few balls early on too.

ronnie brown is killing me. bad pick that's gonna haunt me all season. although if it wasn't him it would have been MJD, who hasn't done much either.   

Same here, sort of.  I needed 7 points from Cooley and the Philly D, I got 11+ so I got a narrow victory.  Two straight weeks its come down to the Monday nighter for me, 2 for 2 so far. (Non HTGTH league that is).  I actually contemplated picking Ronnie Brown in the 2nd round (#14 overall or so).  Luckily I chose Travis Henry instead.  Brown and the Dolphins are terrible.  Jesse Chatman splits time with Brown now, might as well give him some more reps.  Brown's been a huge disappointment so far in his career.

I'm considering changing my team's name from Jessica Alba.  I have seen her interviewed on Letterman and Leno and oh my is this chick empty.  If her ass wasn't so unbelievably amazing, my team would have a new name.   ;D

Maybe you should change it to Jessica Alba's Ass

I wanted to keep it a family friendly name...but if the losses mount up, it may have to be changed.  Nice idea.

i was at the Birds game yesterday so i was able to watch my WRs (williams and curtis) put up huge weeks. that was exciting. alot of big performances this week. ronnie brown finally came through....luckily i stuck with him for one more week in my other league.

D, sorry about handin' you a big L.  As a Vikings fan, I'm lovin' watching Adrian Peterson.  Team Jessica Alba is lookin' as fine as her a$$!!!!   :)

Damn, I've got Maroney in my lineup in one of my other leagues and he's not playing tonight.  I thought I could pick up a replacement in time for the game today but I guess I was wrong, it wouldn't have been reflected till week 5.  Not like I had much of a shot, I'm down 33 points so I would've needed 150 yards and 3 TD's.  But I did have Sammy Morris earlier this week until I dropped him for some shitty WR (Roddy White) that I'll hopefully never have to use.  BAD move by me, again not that Sammy would've gotten me 33 points but just the same.

Still undefeated in the HTGTH league!!!! Woohoo!

^Jessica Alba's still lurking...just a game behind...umm, I mean great behind.  ;)

eh, aren't we all lurking? theres a pretty good chunk @ 3-1. Best of luck this week by the way!

I've got a tough choice in my other league.  Feel free to chime in if you have some good advice.  We have a choice of starting 2 rbs and 2 wrs, or 1 rb and 3 wrs.  I'm definitely going with Shaun Alexander, Randy Moss, and Torry Holt. 
Since Adrian Peterson and Lamont Jordan are on a bye, my choice comes down to Calvin Johnson at the Redskins, Fred Taylor at KC, or Jerrious Norwood at Tennessee.  If CJ didn't miss the previous week with a back injury, he'd be a lock, but his status is up in the air.  Seeing as how the Lions have a bye next week, they could respond by either giving him 3 weeks in a row off, thereby protecting their impressive rookie, or play him knowing he's got 2 weeks to recover.
Fred Taylor carried the ball 17 times or so the past 2 weeks, so he gets carries and he's averaging a yard more per carry than Jones-Drew.  Norwood, it's been said by the Falcons coaching staff, needs more touches.  He's getting single digit carries right now.

Unfortunately, none of these guys has a great matchup.  Unless I hear a good argument, CJ's my man if he's not kept out at the last minute.  If he is out, Taylor would be my man up against a surprisingly tough KC defense in Arrowhead.

 :peace:

PS, one more question:  I've got the Steelers defense or the Dolphins.  The Steelers are without Polamalu and they are in Seattle (tough place for opponents to play)  My other option is Miami, in Houston against an improved Texans' team.  I find it hard to believe the 'phins will be 0-5 and the Texans will be 3-2.  I just can't imagine that kind of a start to a season.  I currently have the Steelers starting... whaddaya think?

Definitely stick with the Steelers D, the Dolphins are terrible and their D is among the worst fantasy-wise.  Is Arizona available, playing the hapless Rams?  Steelers are good though, I wouldn't be too threatened by the injuries.  You've got it right on the head with your other ordeal.  Stick with CJ, if he can't go, go with Taylor.

Thanks Faldor.  I agree and have the Steelers and CJ...but you know how those second thoughts come creeping in!  :nervous:

i'd go with fred taylor. skins pass D is one of the best in the league, and they haven't given up any big games to opposing WRs. plus i always favor the RB if it's a close call since they get points much easier than WRs.

also, pittsburgh is at home. i'd definitely start them.

Much props to Sandman.  I should have gone with Freddy T. over CJ.  I'm up by 36 points but...he's got Driver, M. Lynch, and the Cowboys D.  I still have Romo and Witten. 

I'd still rather be up by 41 points!   :beer: to Sandman.

sounds like you have the W wrapped up.  : ok:

i should win in my league as well to get to 4-1. i never would have thought ronnie brown would be carrying me! (and brady of course).

i also dropped philly D this week and picked up the Cards for the favorable matchup vs. the rams. it took a while, but it paid off nicely when they returned that late INT for a TD.

i tried to sub for my players on bye week but just checked and they were still on the bench. i would have won by a couple points this week. i'm a moron.

i have adrian peterson in my other league, and every "expert" said to sit him this week. i gave it some thought and luckily stayed with him. what a week. him and brady carried me to another W. i'm 5-1 in that league.

and alexander is done. he's finished. he looks like he can barely move and he goes down faster than a $20 hooker. 

Sandman, I too, stayed with Adrian Peterson in my other league (and htgth's league), and it was great and all...but I still lost thanks to the Steelers D's bye, Wilkins is my kicker, and Holt and Shaun Alexander bit the big one.

On the Alexander front.  I'll go out on a limb and disagree.  I don't think he's done.  He had no holes to work with.  He's always been a patient runner who uses his blocks well.  Since Seattle failed to get the passing game going and their o-line couldn't block, all was lost.  Shaun will be back...with a vengeance...I hope!   :nervous:

Viagra High Score of the Week...Jessica Alba.  How appropriate.   8)

Who in the heck do you guys have on your teams for RB's that you can even contemplate sitting A-Pete?  He is by far my top RB on one of my teams.  It wasn't drawn up that way but I was one of the unfortunate souls to draft Rudi Johnson (should've gone with Fast Willie Parker or Westbrook).  Yet I'm still averaging the most rushing yards per week in the league, all thanks to Adrian.  He's a must start regardless of the matchup at this point, really I would've thought even before his explosion this week.

Faldor, I've got Shaun Alexander, Lamont Jordan, and A-Pete as my big guns, with Fred Taylor and Jerrious Norwood as my "waiting in the wings in case of injury" guys.  Early in the season, Alexander and Jordan were guaranteed the majority of carries on their teams.  Jordan also had some nice matchups against the Lions and Browns early.  He did really well so I rolled with him and he didn't disappoint.  A-Pete has that darn Chester Taylor stealing carries and potentially touchdowns!

My first loss came last week when Alexander pooped the bed and I went with Romo over Hasselbeck.  Hindsight's always 20-20.

I am sticking with Alexander and I think he'll be giving a big f.u. to the nay-sayers as they beat up on the Rams this week.
..and yes I'm still going with Romo over Hasselbeck.  I have less pressure this week as I'm playing a team that has Tomlinson on a bye.  :)

i start 2 RBs and 2 WRs and a Flex. my 4 RBs are alexander, r. brown, peterson, and sammy morris. WRs are coles, driver, b. marshall, welker, and crayton. so i had some pretty good options.

also, peterson is not the starter and they were playing a divisional game on the road. i wasn't expecting much, and many experts (fantasy crew on espn news, thehuddle.com) predicted a low key day for him. but i felt good about his chances when emmit smith said all peterson owners should sit him.  :hihi:

Remember, I didnt draft my team


I have one league where i drafted my team and i am 5-0, So u bitches should be lucky I had to work and missed the draft. : ok: :D

Jessica Alba's lookin' good.  :)
Estranged Eagles, the dream of the undefeated season is gone...startin' to worry???   ;D

The Sports Guy had an article a couple weeks back about what's harder to do, go undefeated in the NFL or in fantasy football?  Citing the Patriots of course, he concluded that it was actually harder to go undefeated in fantasy football because in the NFL each team has a bye week, but in fantasy you have certain weeks where your squad is decimated by teams bye weeks.  I knocked off a previously undefeated team this past week.  He's been carried by Tom Brady all year.  I was down by 38 points going into last night with Ben Roethlesberger to go.  He had Hines Ward, so I figured I was done, but 5 TD's later, none of which went to Hines Ward, I won by 2 points.

How's everybody doing in fantasy football, now that the year is almost over???

I was in 12 leagues this year (way too many), but I managed to make the playoffs in nine of them (five as a number one seed). I had so many good match-ups this week on paper, and I just knew I was going to win all these championships, and then God decides He hates me and He's going to make it snow in every game where I have a big-time fantasy player. I'm now out of playoffs in several leagues now, thanks to that snow. For instance, in our HTGTH league, my 11-2 team loses to a 7-6 team all because of Tom Brady, who singlehandely won me so many games this year.

I never wanna see it snow again in my life.

I hear you, I was in 4 leagues this year and am likely to lose all 4 by the end of tonight's game unless miracles occur.  I clearly had the best team in one league which pays out the most money, but am gonna get bounced in the first round of the playoffs.  I had by far the most overall points, but finished in 2nd place.  That seems to be a common trend for me in fantasy football.  I usually build a real solid team that racks up points but NEVER finishes in first in the regular season or playoffs.  I've only won one league that counted ever I think.  It's all about matchups and luck, and I always seem to run out come playoff time.

Gilee, I feel your pain!  I have been blessed with Tony Romo, Randy Moss, and the Steelers defense and they've all treated me well...until Week 15, the first week of my main league's playoffs!!!!   :rant:

I was 11-3 and the #1 seed in my main league's playoffs.  I need Adrian Peterson to rush for 200 yards and 4 touchdowns in addition to Robbie Gould kicking 3 or 4 field goals!  Yeah, I'm fucked.   :(  The funny part is that in the 10 years of my league, the #1 seed has NEVER won our Super Bowl.  It's actually pretty cool because it spreads the wealth around. 

In the Here Today Gone to Hell league though...Jessica Alba looks like she'll be in the Championship game!  Even knocked-up she's unstoppable!   :hihi:

Just want u guys to know, that next season I am not missing the draft and I will win or at least get to the finals.


I am in two other leagues, I am in the finals next week and the semi finals next week.


I didn't draft my team for our league and I got stuck with a shitty team.

That won't happen when I draft.

That's a bold prediction.  We're gonna hold you to that.

I'm in three leauges this year. And lost in the first round play-offs in two of them and the second round after my bye week in the other one. For 9th straight year I have made the play-offs and have not made it to a championship game. I am the marty schottenheimer of fantasy football.  :'(  :smoking:

Couldn't ya'll see it coming?  Jessica Alba is unstoppable!!!  That face, that body...to think you ya had a chance.   ;D

MY TEAM IS IN THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!

^ in the Here Today Gone to Hell league?

i haven't had time to keep up with the HTGTH league. and i apologize. it's tough enough to keep up with one league (which i pay a pretty hefty fee to participate).

in my other league, i finished 2nd with the most total points overall. i lost this weekend in the semi's - had my worst week of the season. Brady carried me all year and of course a blizzard moves through new england. we have a 3rd place game this weekend so i'm hoping to win a little more money.

our SB is the 6th seed vs. the 5th seed. and the 6th seed might be the worst fantast team of all time to make a SB.  :hihi: he's started redman and rosenfels in his 2 playoff games, along with
RB: Gado, chester taylor
WR: Henry, Engram, Walter

talk about being lucky.

Jessica Alba's looking to take Here Today Gone to Hell's Championship today!  A champion's never looked better.  :)

Here Today Gone to Hell has a new official Fantasy Football Champion...Axl4Prez2004 conquers all!!!!   :yes:

Headline reads:

JESSICA ALBA TAKES IT IN THE END!!!!!!  (OH YEEEAH!!!!!!!!)     :hihi:

better luck next year folks.  :)

Congrats Jessica Alba, thanks to everyone who participated.  Not bad for such last minute planning.  Maybe we can expand a bit next year.

No, I didn't know HTGTH had one.  Pretty cool.  I'll have to try next year.

The league I'm in is about 10 years old, same core group of guys every year.  This is my first championship ever. I was the last seed, barely snuck into the playoffs.  I toppled the guy who had tom brady as QB.

best pick up was Roddy White - dude always put up sick numbers.  normally i rely on unreal pick ups to dominate, but this year it was just a solid draft.  I could have had total domination if i drafted Moss, I took TO instead (not a bad move on my part, but I think Moss put up bigger numbers.

Congrats Butters!  My league is also in its 10th season.  12 team dynasty league with all but one of the original members.  I'm the commish and I run a tight league with no bullshit.  I won Super Bowl I, lost Super Bowls 2, 3, and 8.  I won Regular Season Championships in Years 2, 3, 6, and this season, 10.  One of the cool aspects of my league is that a #1 seed (regular season champ) has never won our Super Bowl.  That spreads the prize money around a little better.  Why does that happen?  Probably because we use Week 17 as our Super Bowl.  Week 17 is a crazy week. 

 :peace:

I thought I was in the only league in America that still uses week 17 as the Super Bowl.  I stand corrected.  Yeah week 17 is crazy, should be banned from fantasy football.  I think our league is making the change next season.  My league also doesn't have waivers.  Another crazy thing.

Faldor, my league's system might make ya jizz in your pants it's so cool.  I won't bore you with details unless you ask.

Week 17, like I said is great.  It adds unpredictability into the mix.  As long as you are rewarding teams adequately for regular season accomplishments too, you're golden.

btw, waivers are great if you do them the right way.  1st come 1st serve is bullshit.

Yeah I don't really like using week 17, leaves too much to chance.  How's the payout structure in your league?  Mine is a 12 team league, $200 per team.  Regular season AND Playoffs 1st place get $800, 2nd for both get $400.  I personally think the regular season should get more than playoffs because it's more impressive to do well over the course of a season than just 3 weeks.  BUT with that being said, most sites consider how you finish in the playoffs as you're final standing.  I finished the regular season in 2nd, but lost in the playoffs and then in the consolation, so this week I'm fighting for 7th place.  So my 10-4 regular season team can do no better than finish 7th.

My league uses a 3 division (geographically aligned by West, Central, and East) 12 team alignment.  We aren't as big a money league as yours, but it's taken pretty seriously.  The base league entry fee is $60 plus 50 cents for each add/drop the team performed the previuous season. 

We use an auction format for our draft.  Each team is alotted a salary cap of $100 to spend on their 18 player roster.  You can get any player you want if you are willing to spend the dough.  We transitioned to the dynasty style in Year 8.  It's been awesome.  More on that later.

You'd have done better in my league most likely.  Your record probably would have given you a 1st place finish in your division.  Ya see, with a 12 team league, it works out to be a perfectly balance schedule.  You play each of your 3 division rivals twice, and all other 8 teams once.  If you win your division, it's a $70 prize.  So, 3 teams get that.  Then, there's a smaller Wildcard prize for the best record that didn't win a division because usually, they have a better record than the worst division winner.  $25 to the Wildcard winner. 

The playoffs pit 1-8 and 4-5.  Also 2-7 and 3-6.  The top 3 seeds are the division winners and the 4 seed is the wildcard winner.

1st round playoff wins get ya $20.  2nd round $35, and if you win the Super Bowl in week 17, $180. 

Now, the dynasty portion of the league is my favorite part.  add/drop transactions are done by blind bidding.  On Tuesday night at 10:00pm, all blind bids are due.  You actually have to pay the player you drop for his service to your team before you use the left over money under the cap to pay the player you pick up.  When you put in a bid for an available player, you can also offer that player a multi-year deal.  The highest total value offer wins the player.  Now, if you at some point terminate that player's contract early, you are penalized with a penalty on your salary cap in the years the player is signed for.  5 years is the longest allowed contract and there is also a stud penalty tax.  Let's say you're like me this year and got Adrian Peterson for $9 and signed him to a 5 year deal.  If a player finishes in the top 5 at his position, his whole contract is immediately bumped up to the average of the top 5 performers' salaries. 

It all sounds complicated, but it's a little more realistic.  It makes owners think a little more.  Cool stuff.

Yeah that does sound cool.  I like a league to have some meaning from year to year, especially if you have the same members consistently.  I've been pushing for a keeper league for years but always get denied.  So how many guys can you keep?  Is there a limit on that?  I played in a league one year with blind bids on free agents.  That was a nice little wrinkle.  I also like the giving money for each playoff win, spread the wealth.  The people in my league seem to like the all or nothing factor though.

no waivers is kinda dumb, but week 17 as the superbowl is just pure insanity.  i would hate that league  :hihi:

In my league's Super Bowl this week, one team is down 68 to 52.  The team that's losing has Lendale White and Rob Bironas left.  In my league's scoring system, White and Bironas for the season have averaged a combined 20.1 points.  Since it's must-win, the odds are, we'll have a come-from-behind Super Bowl winner.  Pretty cool stuff. 

A Week 17 championship league means beware of drafting the stars on teams that can clinch playoff spots early.  That's all.  To me, the week 16 endings can be a little too predictable.  Just look at Jessica Alba this year in HTGTH's league!!!  Ya just knew she's take it in the end!!!  Good ol' Jessica.  :drool:

anyone doing a playoff league?

my draft is tonight. i think this is our 5th year doing it. we have a core group of 5 owners that do it every year, and we always manage to find a random 6th owner.

ranking players for this draft is tough.

Sandman, that sounds dang near impossible.  Good luck with that.  I'd want LT at RB, Chargers D, Brees at qb and Galloway at WR...in no certain order.

Problem with drafting guys for the post-season, if their team is one and done, so are you.  Sometimes it's better to pick a Jabar Gaffney or Patrick Crayton rather than a Galloway (just for example).

oops, I didn't take that into account.  Give me Patriots then!  They'll be in 3 games. 

I still believe the Chargers will upset the Colts next weekend...sorry Freedom78!

yes, getting players to play in 3 games is critical.

we have 6 owners, draft 14, and start 8 per weekend if possible. (1QB, 5RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1D). and it's total points throughout (no head to head). so when looking at players you have to consider how many total points they could get you throughout the playoffs. which obviously depends on how many games they play. last year Manning actually played in 4 games. didn't put up huge numbers though if i remember correctly.

i had the first pick and took Brady. 3 QBs and 6 RBs and Moss were off the board before i picked again and i went with TO and welker (hoping each will play 3 games). so i'm weak at RB. here's my full squad:

QB: Brady, Young
RB: najeh "i'll shit in your closet" davenport, white, j. jones
WR: TO, welker, branch, r. williams, boss
K: kaeding, scobee
D: pats, seahawks

I thought I would report my yahoo fantasy season.

I did 8 leagues this year in total, 1 of them public.

I got 3 Championships, 1 3rd place and finished 5th in the public league. Not bad if I must say.

note: I don't join those really dumb 4-6 team leagues either... I join leagues with at least 10-14 tops.

Not bad, and yes I'm bragging.

Peace

Me and a buddy took Sandman's advice.  We constructed a Super Bowl fantasy game.  Who do you think will win?

Team A:  Brady, Jacobs, Plaxico, Stallworth, Boss, Gostkowski, Giants D.

Team B:  Manning, Maroney, Moss, Welker, Watson, Tynes, Patriots D.