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Title: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 10, 2007, 01:27:54 AM Quote Jed Gottlieb of BostonHerald.com recently conducted an interview with DEF LEPPARD vocalist Joe Elliott. An excerpt from the chat follows: BostonHerald.com: So what specifically makes you so different from GUNS N' ROSES? Elliott: OK, I'll tell you this. For a long time THE ROLLING STONES had the tag of the most dangerous band in the world, but I've never heard of them going on at midnight. If they were due on at nine, they came on at nine. If you're going to be a dangerous band you don't have to do it like Axl [Rose] did where you piss off as many people as you pleasure. With us it's all about the pleasure. We don't have an agenda and we don't try and court the press to make us look better than we are or worse then we are. We get on with it. BostonHerald.com: Why don't you get into all the rock star antics that made GN'R so wild? Elliott: I think that in part it's because were British. There's a romance to a British band that is different than American bands. As dangerous as The Who were, there was still a kind of gentlemanly conduct about them. It was all champagne and cravats even with the cocaine and smashing guitars. Even with [LED] ZEPPELIN there was a mildness to their rape and pillage, as opposed to the ridiculous Hollywood version of the thing in the '80s where it was all bandanas and headbands and everybody pretending to be out of it. We were always in control with our business managers and accountants. BostonHerald.com: Did you really feel in control when everything got really big with "Pyromania"? Elliott: Really, the only thing we weren't in control of was how we were going to react to success. We planned in our minds to be the biggest band in the world, that's who we wanted to be. We weren't SOUTHSIDE JOHNNY AND THE ASBURY JUKES. God bless 'em, but we didn't want to be any of those guys. We didn't want to be Commander Cody or Zappa. We were always going to try to be up there with THE BEATLES and the STONES and FLOYDs and THE WHOs of this world. Read the entire intervire at BostonHerald.com. i thought a few things that were said were funny so i posted it : ok: but for the record Guns N' Roses > Def Leppard HOWEVER both kick ass :headbanger: :peace: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: faldor on August 10, 2007, 01:32:22 AM Yeah I dig Def Leppard too and I don't see what Joe said about Axl as anything too drastic. A lot of people would disagree with the way Axl has handled certain things over the years.
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on August 10, 2007, 01:34:33 AM i lol'd.
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 10, 2007, 01:39:55 AM Yeah I dig Def Leppard too and I don't see what Joe said about Axl as anything too drastic.? A lot of people would disagree with the way Axl has handled certain things over the years. well i thought that the part where he said something like Axl deliberatly pissing off his fans would a be a good discussion topic. I know he doesn't and that shit happens before a show but still.......... You think that this will spark a debate against the frontmen? btw if any one wants it heres the link to Blabbermouth where i got it http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=78508 :peace: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: D on August 10, 2007, 01:42:38 AM Axl being the way he is makes him WHO he is.
What makes him great is also what makes him who he is so u change certain parts and we aren't on here talkin about him all these years later. Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: Timothy on August 10, 2007, 01:44:00 AM True Hunk.......... Being a fan of axl is like dating and asshole . You know the dude is going to do some fucked up shit ,but yet you stick with him.
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: faldor on August 10, 2007, 01:46:00 AM Yeah I dig Def Leppard too and I don't see what Joe said about Axl as anything too drastic.? A lot of people would disagree with the way Axl has handled certain things over the years. well i thought that the part where he said something like Axl deliberatly pissing off his fans would a be a good discussion topic. I know he doesn't and that shit happens before a show but still.......... You think that this will spark a debate against the frontmen? btw if any one wants it heres the link to Blabbermouth where i got it http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=78508 :peace: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 10, 2007, 01:51:08 AM Yeah I dig Def Leppard too and I don't see what Joe said about Axl as anything too drastic.? A lot of people would disagree with the way Axl has handled certain things over the years. well i thought that the part where he said something like Axl deliberatly pissing off his fans would a be a good discussion topic. I know he doesn't and that shit happens before a show but still.......... You think that this will spark a debate against the frontmen? btw if any one wants it heres the link to Blabbermouth where i got it http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=78508 :peace: agreed :beer: Axl would probably wave it off as nothing maybe crack a joke or two and move on. but when it happens CHINESE DEMOCRACY > Sparkle lounge :peace: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: D on August 10, 2007, 01:53:48 AM Def Leppard are FA FA FA FOOLIN if they think they are anywhere near GNR's league.
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: LawsonsLaw007 on August 10, 2007, 02:01:33 AM i think Def Leppard sucks balls but what ever. thay are Just to..... i dont know the word but i just dont like them
Peace Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: Genesis on August 10, 2007, 02:01:46 AM I think he's still pissed AFD pipped their album for no.1 :hihi:
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: disease51883 on August 10, 2007, 03:25:08 AM Quote CHINESE DEMOCRACY > Sparkle lounge I dunno. Sounds like a close one... Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: SLCPUNK on August 10, 2007, 05:52:28 AM I love both bands. My two favs. I have second row tickets to see Def Leppard this month.
:beer: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: russtcb on August 10, 2007, 06:33:13 AM I like Def Leppard and I really don't have anything against Joe Elliot overall, but lately it seems like he keeps running his mouth. I've seen several stories where he seems angry that Def Leppard are viewed by alot of people as "hair metal". I even saw one where he compared his band to The Beatles and Led Zeppelin. I think I saw an interview with Vivian Campbell where he was running his mouth about Axl pissing people off as well (I could be wrong on that one).
To me, I just wish these guys (well.... every band for that matter) would just let the music do the talking. I mean, who gives a hot fuck what the average fan categorizes your music as? Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: mrlee on August 10, 2007, 07:03:40 AM i respect def leppard very much for there work in the 80s till 1992 and they did have huge success at the time, i just think bad luck,shit albums post adrenalize, and the bassists hair LOL lost them alot of credability.
althought i expect joe and def leppard to get ripped on now, as this is a gnr forum, people should remember the huge success of there 80s albums. Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on August 10, 2007, 07:08:31 AM DL play Coma over the PA before their shows sometimes don't they?
Not that it has anything to do with this but I just thought I'd mention it. Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on August 10, 2007, 07:16:27 AM Def Leppard made really good records from High N' Dry to Hysteria but lost their ways after Steven Clark died. Today Joe Elliot sounds like shit.
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: russtcb on August 10, 2007, 09:20:09 AM Def Leppard made really good records from High N' Dry to Hysteria but lost their ways after Steven Clark died.? Today Joe Elliot sounds like shit. He has good nights and bad nights. I saw them about 4 years ago and he sounded TERRIBLE but I saw them about 2 weeks ago and he sounded incredible. Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: mrlee on August 10, 2007, 10:05:34 AM Def Leppard made really good records from High N' Dry to Hysteria but lost their ways after Steven Clark died. Today Joe Elliot sounds like shit. He has good nights and bad nights. I saw them about 4 years ago and he sounded TERRIBLE but I saw them about 2 weeks ago and he sounded incredible. i guess it depends on how long hes been touring, his health, vocal coach, vocal conditions etc. i mean look at axl 2001, horrible voice, now look at him, very strong voice again. Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: axlnyc on August 10, 2007, 10:17:45 AM Def Leppard made really good records from High N' Dry to Hysteria but lost their ways after Steven Clark died.? Today Joe Elliot sounds like shit. Yeah, they rocked when they were younger, but now they call themselves a "pop" band.? I used to be a big fan, and still like the older stuff.Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: faldor on August 10, 2007, 11:37:34 AM DL play Coma over the PA before their shows sometimes don't they? They did last year at both shows I went to. I saw them this year though and it wasn't played. Not that I remember at least.Not that it has anything to do with this but I just thought I'd mention it. Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 10, 2007, 02:30:54 PM Def Leppard made really good records from High N' Dry to Hysteria but lost their ways after Steven Clark died.? Today Joe Elliot sounds like shit. Yeah, they rocked when they were younger, but now they call themselves a "pop" band.? I used to be a big fan, and still like the older stuff.i hate that term "pop" to me Def Leppard will always be Hair Metal. They can't change what they are, they always have and always will be HAIR METAL. as for them playing coma, when i went to a show in 2005 i don't remember hearing coma over the pa however i do remember them playing you could be mine. :peace: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: Wheres Izzy on August 10, 2007, 03:10:52 PM Honestly...I can't even listen to def leppard. Can't sit through a whole song. I have always thought they were THAT bad. I think Journey is better than them...and Journey is awful. That being said I think it's pretty strange this interviewer has multiple questions referencing GnR. And Joe Elliot getting offended by them being called hair metal is absurd. Their music was hair metal, it's not even debatable. What is he afraid being called hair metal will make his songs less poignant or meaningful? Cause I don't think you could get any lower than "I'm hot sticky sweet from my head to my feet".
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: RageNirvanaNIN on August 10, 2007, 08:57:04 PM Def Leppard - Cheesy 80's Band
GNR - Real Hard Rock Band Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: mrlee on August 13, 2007, 11:24:32 AM Def Leppard - Cheesy 80's Band GNR - Real Hard Rock Band disagree. one single doesnt mean every song is cheesy. listen to women or gods of war, not cheesy. Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: Wheres Izzy on August 14, 2007, 11:06:54 PM Def Leppard - Cheesy 80's Band GNR - Real Hard Rock Band disagree. one single doesnt mean every song is cheesy. listen to women or gods of war, not cheesy. One song? I'm going strictly off of what I can remember ever hearing by them on the radio: Rock of Ages=cheesey Pour Some sugar on me=cheesy two steps behind=cheesey photograph-cheesey foolin=cheesey Love bites=possibly the cheesiest thing ever Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: RageNirvanaNIN on August 14, 2007, 11:43:49 PM Def Leppard - Cheesy 80's Band GNR - Real Hard Rock Band disagree. one single doesnt mean every song is cheesy. listen to women or gods of war, not cheesy. One song? I'm going strictly off of what I can remember ever hearing by them on the radio: Rock of Ages=cheesey Pour Some sugar on me=cheesy two steps behind=cheesey photograph-cheesey foolin=cheesey Love bites=possibly the cheesiest thing ever :beer: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: mrlee on August 17, 2007, 02:12:14 PM judge them by there radio friendly singles then. ill just keep enjoying the great music you guys are gonna miss out on from labelling them.
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: Mr Rage on August 21, 2007, 05:31:41 PM to be fair to joe, all he wants is credablity, most 80's bands are laughed at, so u can see why there trying to get themselves outta of the group of hair metal bands.
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 21, 2007, 05:56:43 PM to be fair to joe, all he wants is credablity, most 80's bands are laughed at, so u can see why there trying to get themselves outta of the group of hair metal bands. i get what your saying but still they can't take back the fact that they are Hair Metal. If they didn't want to be Hair Metal then they should've either played faster, wore less make up, NOT have long hair, or come out of the 80s. they may be laughed at but fuck the haters, Hair Metal 4 life : ok: :headbanger: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: faldor on August 21, 2007, 07:01:37 PM to be fair to joe, all he wants is credablity, most 80's bands are laughed at, so u can see why there trying to get themselves outta of the group of hair metal bands. i get what your saying but still they can't take back the fact that they are Hair Metal. If they didn't want to be Hair Metal then they should've either played faster, wore less make up, NOT have long hair, or come out of the 80s. they may be laughed at but fuck the haters, Hair Metal 4 life : ok: :headbanger: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: Mr Rage on August 23, 2007, 03:13:21 PM they never wore make-up but they where the 1st band to embrace mtv and colourful videos n clothes! plus no matter what anyone says " pyromania " 10 million + sales "Hysteria" 10 million + sales, they got nothing to prove to anybody!
Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 23, 2007, 05:11:05 PM to be fair to joe, all he wants is credablity, most 80's bands are laughed at, so u can see why there trying to get themselves outta of the group of hair metal bands. i get what your saying but still they can't take back the fact that they are Hair Metal. If they didn't want to be Hair Metal then they should've either played faster, wore less make up, NOT have long hair, or come out of the 80s. they may be laughed at but fuck the haters, Hair Metal 4 life : ok: :headbanger: your right i take back the comment on makeup BUT they were hair Metal its just that bands like Poison, Cinderella, ect had a TON of make up and teased hair that Def Leppard didn't seem like glam or hair metal at all but the music was simply Hair Metal and still is today imo :peace: Title: Re: the differance of Def Leppard and Guns N' Roses Post by: darkdays_01 on September 02, 2007, 03:24:43 AM Def Leppard do and ill throw GnR in this aswell unfairly get lumped in with that "hair metal" tag. Neither band imo was a "hair metal" band. I dont think Joe was taking a shot at Axl at all here. Just came across like that. Actually Joe is pretty tight with the guys in VR, there are quite a few pics floating around the net of Joe with the guys in VR, it is no secret that him, Duff and Slash are pretty tight.
Back in the day GnR just didnt give a shit what people thought of them , Leppard came across pretty clean cut but it is widely known behind the scenes they were pretty hardcore into the drugs and booze themselves. The new album they have coming out is supposedly a more rock album , of course they say that before each release, as much as i like them they havent released a really decent album since Slang which imo is there best release to date. Hopefully there new one is in the direction of Slang, we will see i guess. |