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"He played most of the instruments himself but did get help from SOAD drummer John Dolmayan and former Primus skin-pounder Bryan "Brain" Mantia, along with Dan Monti on guitar and bass, opera singer Ani Maldjian and some string players."

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003577800

Hehehe

He can't play shows with GNR,but he can play with Praxis and other musicians like Serj etc.
The GNR camp like to be on a pathetic situation making lies,both Frank and Brain are on GNR family my arses. :hihi:
Ridiculous..

I think its pretty clear that this is a warmup show for Brain.  He got the memo that Chinese Democracy has started and hes getting ready.  Axl had backups in place, according to the plan he made in 1986, for every position except Tommy.  Brain is here now just in case Frank gets hurt in a car accident, which, since hes doing warm up shows, will innevitably happen.  What people dont remember is that Axl consults with mystics, and he knows things before theyll happen.  Unfortunately Axl has been so busy mixing that he didnt foresee Westerberg pushing Tommy down a flight of steps.  Still, this is only a minor delay in Axl's master plan.  Trust in Axl, hes never let anyone down, ever.

wow! now THAT'S a reply!!

LOL! Give that guy positive Khamra!

you can get positive Karma on here?

Frank will be the drummer for the world tour

Axl had a plan allready made in 1986 ?  ??? ???

Isint it obvious?  :hihi:

do one show or two.. or three.. very very different from doing a World Tour, travelling one night and playin' on another.

let us know brains status already....we know he left, just tell us. its a shame, he's an amzing talent............

i hope he still in the band.. he's very good

yup...he's freakishly great................

last word from the band is that Brain is still in.  So until they say otherwise or Brain says otherwise, you guys are just making assumptions.   

What's your point?  Didn't Ron just produce the Q-Ball cd, and didn't Frank and Bumblefoot do stuff with Frank's other band?

I wouldn't place so much blame on GNR. We don't even know the whole story w/ Brain yet.

What lies?

lies are made by the outsiders that talk shit about the band. yes they are ridiculous and pathetic.

If Im not wrong, Serj Tankian also collaborated with Buckethead in one of his recent albums. I like him, and I also like SOAD

dan monti was/is a CD enginneer and also he tours with BH..

I thought that we weren't allowed to talk about ex-members in this section. :hihi:

It is Not a show..
brain plays in the record

System Of A Down frontman Serj Tankian is planning a fall release for his first solo album, "Elect the Dead," telling Billboard.com it's "a rock record, but it's pretty progressive. It's very wide sounding -- lots of different sounding instruments. The excitement I had making this record was the same excitement I had making the first System record."

Tankian will release the "Elect the Dead" on his own Serjical Strike label but partner with an as-yet-unnamed major label for distribution. He says the album is a "very homemade" project, recorded mostly in his own studio in Los Angeles.

He played most of the instruments himself but did get help from SOAD drummer John Dolmayan and former Primus skin-pounder Bryan "Brain" Mantia, along with Dan Monti on guitar and bass, opera singer Ani Maldjian and some string players.

"There's a very classical music vibe to this record, an operatic kind of vibe in a sense," Tankian says. "I'm now looking at whether I should mix it myself or have someone else do it. It's kind of my baby. I've done almost everything from the first piano strike to the last touches. I'm very happy with it. It's a rockin' record."

And thats still finding time to play drums w/ someone else is it not?

I had email contact with Brain last week; he said he is taking a break from GNR, that's all. He also mentioned that yes he was recording with Serj, and he also told me he may tour with him, and this may include world dates. I sent some questions to him for my fanzine and I did ask him to clarify his position with GNR, so if there is a response I'll post here.
But he's definitely going to go back to GNR at some point..

 i really hope he comes back, but it seems very odd that he is not in the mix now with the tour and hopefully the cd...he said he needed time for his family-no problem...now hes recording and touring with someone else....it doesnt add up. anyone else agree?

Yeah I know. Well he said he's taking a break. Hopefully he might give me some more insight, and I'll pass on this news.

SOAD fuckin' rules!!  Good for Brain,  might as well work with someone that going to actually release material.  I :love: Serj.

axis of justice!

Notice no mention of Brain's involvement with GNR?

"former Primus skin-pounder Bryan "Brain" Mantia"

If it had mentioned GN'R, it would be posted that he's only using GN'R to promote himself....  ;)



/jarmo

thanks a lot...would really appreciate it....

Hell yeah, no worries at all dudes (and dudettes)
And SOAD are awesome of course. Hope they come back sometime
But Serj's solo album will be interesting..
And be sure to look out for him when he tours.. you might get to see Brain as well  :)

From Blabbermouth:

Tankian plans to issue his debut solo album, titled "Elect The Dead", this fall. The vocalist told Billboard.com that he played most of the instruments himself, but had help from SYSTEM drummer John Dolmayan, former GUNS N' ROSES and PRIMUS drummer Brian "Brain" Mantia and others.

Who knows where that "former" part came from.  Could be from anywhere, not necessarily Brain or anyone associated with GN'R.

Ali

if hes in gnr, i see no problem with that...

i hope they got it wrong....huge brain fan here.........

A break from what? Canceling dates and not releasing the album?

Touring, like they did for 70 shows last year and will be doing again starting next month.

Ali

I hope Brain is not out of GNR, but if he is I hope we are not getting strung along. ( Maybe Brain is stringing along GNR?)

If Frank is the drummer permanently, Id be fine with that also.

This is of course, pure speculation.

According to Stephan Jenkins from Third Eye Bind he is in...mention in this article.


It?s when talking about (and name-dropping) his music legends that Jenkins? quick-tempered personality subsides. Midway through the interview, his Razr rings. As he apologizes, his face begins to light up. ?It?s Bryan, the drummer from Guns ?N Roses!? Says Jenkins excitedly. ?Will you answer my phone if I call you back and not screen my call?? He asks his famous caller. ?K. Brotherhood.?

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=518717#

another huge fan here, yeah, right here! STAY WITH US BRAIN!!

Great .....

Ahhh...At this point, it's irrelevant who plays live, so long as he's duly represented on the record.

You can still see articles out there where Slash and Duff are referred to as "Guns N' Roses members" (no former/ex/etc. in front whatsoever).... so I wouldn't look to the media for any "hints".

Use your intuition... all evidence points to the fact that (at a minimum) he's decided to step away for awhile AND that the band (Axl) is seemingly cool with it....

Until there's something announced changing any of the above... GN'R marches on with Frank- and one should expect that Frank will handle everything GN'R related for the foreseeable future...

Launch Radio Networks reports: SYSTEM OF A DOWN frontman Serj Tankian has set "Empty Walls" as the first rock radio single from his debut solo album, "Elect The Dead". The track will make its way to stations on September 10. Another song, called "The Unthinking Majority", will surface a little earlier on college radio and metal specialty shows. The album itself will arrive on October 23 through Tankian's Serjical Strike label.

Tankian told Launch why it was the right time for him to step out on his own with a solo project. "We've been a band for 11 years, put out five records, and myself personally, I felt I needed to do other things," he said. "I've been wanting to put out a solo record for many, many years and it's not about just the vanity of putting out your own record kind of thing. It's more about having songs and having a vision and having a place to voice that. So I've been looking forward to doing that and it's making me really happy doing that right now."

SYSTEM OF A DOWN drummer John Dolmayan and ex-GUNS N' ROSES drummer Brian "Brain" Mantia both play on "Elect The Dead".


SYSTEM OF A DOWN has been on hiatus since last year while its members pursue individual projects.

exactly.. the media/press knows less then we know about GNR

That caught my attention.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=78160

Ya, another reason why CD is delayed........................... 

we will see if it is true.Blabbermouth..... ;)

How many articles are we going to get on this type of thing?

Why can't people wait til we hear something more from GNR on the subject instead of taking Blabbermouth.net as a reliable source?

he is still a member

Do you think we hear something ? ;)

We already have  ;)

lol.
I cant believe you actually said that.

here's a newsflash;
Ron and Frank have actually performed on the last 30 shows.... unlike Brain. which is why some of the people are interested in his position with the band.

use the logic. it might come in handy some day.



back on topic, he recently spoke to some fans, and confirmed to be back at a later date.
personally, I'd like to see him behind the drums at the future shows.

I can't believe you didn't notice that was written in April.

Use your eyes.  They might come in useful someday.

But please, go and use them somewhere else.

When know his position with the band.

Why is this still such a mystery to some folks?

SERJ TANKIAN Says Making Album By Himself Was A Challenge - Sep. 20, 2007

"Elect The Dead" arrives on October 23. The first single is "Empty Walls".

Tankian did enlist SYSTEM drummer John Dolmayan and former GUNS N' ROSES and PRIMUS drummer Brian "Brain" Mantia to play on the album. Mantia will also be part of Tankian's touring band.

Tankian begin his first solo tour on October 12 in Chicago, finishing up on October 28 in San Francisco.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=81164

U.S. Tour Dates:

10/12   Chicago        Vic Theatre
10/14   Toronto        Guvernment
10/15   Boston         Paradise
10/17   New York       The Fillmore@ Irving Plaza
10/18   Philadelphia   TLA
10/20   Atlanta        The Roxy
10/22   Dallas         Granada Theatre
10/25   Las Vegas      House of Blues
10/27   Los Angeles    Avalon
10/28   San Francisco  Slims

European Tour Dates:

11/3    Manchester     MEN Arena
11/5    Newcastle      Newcastle Arena
11/6    Birmingham     NEC Arena
11/9    Glasgow        SECC
11/10   Aberdeen       Aberdeen Exhibition Centre
11/12   Sheffield      Sheffield Arena
11/13   Cardiff        CIA
11/14   Nottingham     Nottingham Arena
11/16   Manchester     Academy
11/17   London         02 Arena
11/18   London         02 Arena
11/22   London         Astoria
11/25   Amsterdam      Melkweg
11/26   Paris          Elysee Montmartre
11/27   Cologne        Live Music Hall

Update:
"Contrary to earlier reports, Brian "Brain" Mantia will not be in the touring band, although he did play on Tankian's debut solo album, "Elect the Dead", due out on October 23."

Weird......I don't know what to make of this but it ain't good. 

Why?  Brain has openly said he's looking forward to touring with GnR again once the album is out..  In the meantime if he wants to tour with Serj, I dont see the big deal.   

1 of 3 things


1. Brain aint in GNR

2. No GNR tour rest of this year

3. See 2 & 3

People often over analyze artists actions ,  I ( surprisingly ) agree with Zig Zag on this one. He is a musician , he wants to keep occupied and ain't nothing wrong with getting chops up. It just means that within this time we probably wont see another GNR tour , but jesus they just come off one. The tour ends before the end of this year come on people its not the end of the world.


so thats 2 things correct? They came off a world tour dude , they played amazing shows and put effort into it 24/7. Ron said he never slept half the time as the rest of the band didn't either. Its a stressful life , they can't tour all the time. If brian is up for more touring be happy good but GNR can't tour all day every day!

so thats 2 things correct? They came off a world tour dude , they played amazing shows and put effort into it 24/7. Ron said he never slept half the time as the rest of the band didn't either. Its a stressful life , they can't tour all the time. If brian is up for more touring be happy good but GNR can't tour all day every day!

Ok dude.. They havent toured in what 2 months?? 7 before that... Brain 0 of those...

Just sayin no GNR w/ brain this year... I personally think ever again.. Yeah yeah I know, until axl says other wise...

Cut them some slack have you thought they might be making preparations for the album?! Anyways  :beer: on your quote it never ceases to crack me up  :rofl: :rofl:

Hey I honestly hope they are man... Its what I hope for  :peace:

If Brain wanted to tour so badly, he could've done it with GNR, not Serj.  It's sad, but I don't think he's coming back...

I don't think this means he is forever out of GNR...but rather that he is doing some touring with Serj. : ok:

can we please use our common sense......he's been gone for about a year and no word at all. we do know that he has moved on.....

I think I read somewhere he said he would be back when album was released.  I'll take the guy at his word...until I hear otherwise.

Hopefully by that time Axl will have gotten to love frank on the drums to much to let him walk

That may very well be the case.. we'll see I guess.   Personally, I think Frank meshes with the rest of the band better than Brain does, but Brain is a better all-around drummer.   Of course thats all a matter of opinion.   But I'm happy with either one.   The band rocks hard with Brain and they rock hard with Frank. 

I think I can sum this up.
Brain likes playing his own parts a lot more than other drummers parts, so for the time being, he's will play with Serj.
when CD is out however, and GNR (hopefully) starts playing more new songs....he will (again, hopefully) be back.

That may very well be the case.. we'll see I guess.? ?Personally, I think Frank meshes with the rest of the band better than Brain does, but Brain is a better all-around drummer.? ?Of course thats all a matter of opinion.? ?But I'm happy with either one.? ?The band rocks hard with Brain and they rock hard with Frank.?

Well put.... Brain just seems like an outsider... All of this away time cant help much

Yeah I guess that's where I was going with my comment.  I just had dreams of a CD release and promo tour in November.  Not no more!  (Unless Brain isn't ever coming back  :()

either way cd doesn't seem to be coming out before  bas one.....20th nov and brain seems to be touring till 27th so....

Who knows! :peace:

Brain isn't touring with Serj after all!  I guess Uncle Axl caught wind of the idea and gave Brain an "update."  We can dream......

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=81231

mmm could this mean gnr is starting in October or November?
"former GUNS N' ROSES and PRIMUS drummer "-->"former PRIMUS and GUNS N'ROSES drummer" :hihi:

BTW I love frank too.

I just hope that whenever GNR starts up again, Brain will be Mr Drums.
no offense, Frank.

Agreed..

Hmm,  So Brain will play heaps of shows for other bands and appear as a "guest drummer"
as such,
then rather playing shows with gnr...

It kinda confirms in my eyes that he perhaps was in gnr for the money, and when hes bank balance gets low, he will be running home for a hand out to keep him going for a few more months/years...

I honestly think Brain is the superior drummer, as technique overides enthusiasm  in my eyes,
and considering we will be listening to cd 20 years to come if it is ever released,
I will rather hear a good technically skilled drummer, but frank has great energy,

Its sad though that Brain might never come back,
but if its his choice that he doesnt want to come back, then I dont want him back...

All the way acorss the board I prefer Frank to Brain. I'm hoping things stay as they are.

Not me man.  I want Brain back.  But I also want Bucket back so.......... :P

i appreciate frank's work and im not bashing him at all when i say i really want brain back in the fold....

By the way, most of these European dates are opening for the Foo Fighters.  Axl's probably crossed him off the list by now

Ahem,

"Contrary to earlier reports, Brian "Brain" Mantia will not be in the touring band, although he did play on Tankian's debut solo album, "Elect the Dead", due out on October 23."

Funky, can this be added to your post, please?

Just read this...and done : ok:

thank you, funky.  :D

hopefully thats good news that brain will be busy with GNR   : ok:


Hope im not just wishfully thinking

I actually like Brian very much. I don't know enough about drumming to say for sure but I think he's a better technical drummer as well. I just dig the feeling Franks adds to alot of stuff. For example; his take on IRS makes me like the song more.