Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003618803

That sounds interesting, maybe bullshit but you never know.

Adler had to perform tonight in an argentine local radio but he never reached the studio.

People from Rock N' Pop (the radio) said that ''Steven didn't show up because he was kicked out from the airplane because he was drunk during the flight''

So, no show tonight in Buenos Aires. Lets see if he's able to do the next shows.

Oh no! That doesn't sound good!

I try to feel bad for Steven but he brings this shit on himself. 

Yes, he most certainly set himself up for that fall.

 ::) And this guy is desperate for a GnR reunion... How would he be able to last the tour, traveling around the world if he can't stay sober on a damn plane.

man that sucks, a friend of mine went to the radio studio to see steven guess he went for nothing  :-X

damn i hope he had a parachute :o

is there anybody who truly believes adler is off the drugs? i don't.

Part of his brain is damaged, he suffered a cocaine induced stroke. If he is back on the drugs with that sort of brain injury, it can't be good.

haha   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

that was hilarious

Adler is like that one high school buddy , who you used to hardcore party with and get wasted and thrashed with , but he 20 years later....he still seems never to have grown up.

So, if we all go with the idea that he is like an old school buddy who never grew up, a few home truths won't hurt him.

Maybe he deserves the ribbing!  :P

I think that pretty much sums up adler. while all the other guys cooled down on their partying adler just never stopped. and if he doesnt IMO sadly it will be his demise

a drunk and a parachute jump? uh uh.  :no:

BUt if he got kicked out of the airplane he would have needed a parachute.

Great news !

C'mon Axl, you know you should do it.

"Nothing would be bigger."

He hasn't aged as well as the other either.  He looks ragged and tired.

Considering what the guy's been through, I think he's looking pretty darn good.

Axl should do what - have a reunion?

That would be really disrespectful to Steven.

My translation was, obviously, not good. Sorry... language limitations.

What they said in the radio is that Steven wasn't allowed to enter the airplane because he was very drunk.

Anyway, I know I fucked up my spanish-english translation, but this is how things are and Steven wasnt able to perform yesterday in Buenos Aires.

EDIT: I really dont know. People are saying different things. Now they're saying Steven got stranded in Brazil because of his drunkenness

and just drop the guys in GnR now?  No, I don't think so.

It's clear that Adler wants a reunion to happen!  But if he really wanted it that bad surely he must realise that he has to keep himself together.  I mean if Axl happened to be keeping an eye on how Steven is coping with AA's touring/staying off drugs etc with the thought of a reunion someday (I'm not saying he is mind you, but Steven obviously is very hopeful), surely he can see that his behaviour is doing nothing to further his cause.

I know the guy is drug fu*ked, has had a stroke etc etc, but please the guy must have had a frontal lobotomy as well at some point becuase the way he is continuing to act astounds me.  :-\

As someone else posted - I think it's time for him to move on a bit and grow up.  If he wants to stay as a washed up has been desperately clinging to the remnants of a squandered career in the biggest rock band in the world - well fine, keep on acting like an ass clown, but don't expect the current situation to change.

It's sad for the guy because I take my hat off to him and the other original members for what they created whilst they were together. 

But it's very simple - if he keeps acting like a complete dickhead he will continue to be treated as the skid mark on the underpants of life!

Yes, Axl is very anti-drugs.

Yeah, why would Axl want to make a career move with a reunion involving Adler when it seems pretty clear that he still has no control over his drug use and behaviour. 

If I were Axl I certainly wouldn't want to be relying on the guy in what appears to be his current state.

I dont think Axl has any intention on reuniting with the ex-members anyways.   

Not for awhile at least.

I wouldn't want Axl to play with those guys.  I hold him to a higher standard.

Wasn't he drinking after the some of the shows?

illegal drugs..  ::)

Drugs are drugs. ::)

Drinking does not equal drugs  : ok:

Alcohol is one of the most destructive drugs around. Just look at me, I imbib regularly. ;) :beer:

Axl hasn't taken many drugs in his life but to say he is anti-drugs is a bit of an exaggeration. There is an old gnr interview where he said he had no problem with people experimenting and thought drug laws were a bit harsh.

Yeh, precisely, an old interview. As you get older and see enough people die from the shit, your stance tends to become stronger.

Where's the new Axl interview that tells us he's now anti drugs then? Or are you just guessing/presuming?

Stating my informed opinion.

That's total bollocks.

You don't know his opinion on drugs, so stop pretending you do, has he ever given a single interview where he even appeared to be 'very anti drugs'? The only real time Axl has mention drugs in the last 8 years is when Axl and Baz were reminiscing about the good old days on the Trunk interview with all the drug stories, did he ever sound like he was 'very anti drugs'?  You've formed that opinion based on what you would like to think Axls opinion on drugs are, nothing more, so stop passing it off as fact.

Just read this again and do NOT try to have an arugument about drugs with me.
There are young teenagers viewing this site as well.

As you get older and see enough people die from the shit, your stance tends to become stronger.

I'll agree we don't know Axl's true feelings on drugs, but we do know he wasn't happy with some of the ex-members inability to stop dancing with Mr. Brownstone and made this well known.

So because young teenagers read the board we should pretend Axl is 'very anti drugs'? ?:hihi: Riiiiiight. Are you going to go round telling everyone on the board off who posts that they're stoned as well?

I'll have an arguement with you if you post total crap, and pass it off as fact, which is what you are doing. That might be your personal stance on drugs as you've got older I don't really care, but what makes you assume your opinion = Axls opinion when he has never once even hinted that is the case.


That's very true JB, in terms of drug use Axl seemed to be the only one that never seriously got lost in it, but he also admitted on several times he did do drugs regularly and heavily. His Mr Brownstone rant was more a concern for the future of the band imo, Slash was supposedly really strung out at the time so that's why he said it (according to BTM). There's plenty of stories involving Axl, Bach and 'splenda' that date way after his Mr Brownstone rant.

You live in the past.

The teenagers of today want someone who takes a strong stance on drugs as their role model. Unlike that Weiland guy, hey Jim Bob!? : ok:

The drugs that are around today, are pretty lethal comapred to what people did in the 60s (and 70s.......to some extent)

Still you seem to just want to push your pro drugs attitude.

I'm a teacher young man, and I am in a position of authority.

And you have better have plenty of back up for this:

"he admitted several times he does do drugs regularly and heavily"


Now that is utter bullshit.  :rant:

You also knock Axl alot in the VR threads.  >:(

 :rofl: ?:rofl: ?:rofl: That's got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read, "I'm a teacher young man, and I am in a position of authority", who are you trying to convince me or you?

Ah yes my pro drugs attitude, point me to the post where I've ever claimed I'm pro drugs?

Why bring Weiland into it? Nobody mentioned him, or you clutching at straws again?

"The teenagers of today want someone who takes a strong stance on drugs as their role model." I quite agree but why are you so determined to prove this anti drugs role model is Axl Rose, when he's never once hinted that he is anti drugs? What was is that made you think he was, was it his fond reminiscing of the 'splenda' years with Bach on the Trunk that made you think he was this anti drugs role model you claim him to be?

They're rockstars, drugs and rockstars go hand in hand, accept it.

GO to You Tube young man - you'll find his anti-dealer rant there.

You are trying to argue with someone much older than you and you are really showing your age and inability to grasp some new ideas that you have been presented with.

I've done all I can here

so........why don't you just go and visit your dealer.? :D

i find it interesting to know that in June 2002 Moby told a bit about his experience in the studio with GNR and mentioned that the band was totally clean and sober and that no one was allowed to smoke.

"What's toatally cle" Lolita?

That's not very professional at all!  ::) >:(

as if!

Sorry, i accidentally posted before i was over with the typing ;? check on my previous post,? ;D

I don't have the original quote but it was clear that Moby wanted to point out that the band was against any kind of addiction.

Yes your post was totally unprofessional! Half finished sentences..... ;D

Ah dear, you know you're in trouble when you have to resort to using age as a way of insulting someone. Big deal you're older than me. I'm not showing my age, you're just being shown up again. You posted BS you can't back up so are now resorting to insults, if it makes you feel good then great but everyone else can see through it.

FYI you've done nothing here, you tried to put Axl on this big pedastal by making stuff up and you've been caught out, accept it. They all did drugs back in the day, they might all still do, who knows, GN'R is known as one of the heaviest drug bands ever, there's a reason for that.


Just a bit evidence to back up what I'm saying ?: ok:

You got anything to back up what you are saying yet, you've still not managed to find anything to prove I'm pro drugs, or anything to prove Axl is 'very anti drugs', or even of me bashing Axl in the VR section? Or are you just making shit up again?

 :nervous:  What would ?be my score if this was a test ? ?

:P

I can vouch for the fact that ones attitudes do harden toward drug use as the years pile on, especially after burying close friends as result of that insidious disease.

You have no idea what has gone on in Axl's life over the past 14 years so stop trying to dreg up things from his past.

You then go on to say that "not once has Axl ever hinted that he is against drugs". I referred you to a You Tube clip. It is posted on this site. Did you go to it?

If you did, you wouldn't be back here again showing your age and lack of knowledge on the matter.

People who winge about Old GN'R and Axl being too demanding really should realize that someone like AXl would be furious to know that GN'R did split up for the reason being drugs and drugs only. That is the most stupid reason for a band to split up don't you think?

DUH.

You are living in la la land. I'm done talking to you. I'm waasting my breathe cos you do not get this argument in any way whatso ever - and I am being very kind to you as I say that. The best for you would be to shut your mouth now.

Just like you have no idea what went on in Axls life over the last 14 years. You seem to keep forgetting that bit. You stated as fact that Axl is 'very anti drugs' and I said you had no proof for such a claim and you still don't. Then you said it was BS when I said Axl had said he used drugs heavily and I'd better back it up, I proved you wrong and now I'm not meant to be dragging up Axls past, riiiiight. When is this Axls drug rant you keep refering to, is it back in Axls past which we shouldn't dreg up?

La la land? You're the one passing off what you hope Axls opinion to be as fact, not me.

10/10 you're one of the few that passed the test! Welcome to the club!  : ok:

what is this secret club that people keep refering to. :hihi:

Not if you just 'can't get enough of Bobby Darin'? FC? ? ? ? ;D

Funniest post EVER! Drugs are more lethal today?! HAHA HARDLY , teenagers want someone against drug?  The last line is just stupid , you have no authority online for being a teacher you're just like everyone else , no higher. Axl had a giant weed thing going on from 89-91 , and if you are telling me the man HASN'T done some coke or heroin than you are a sad person , Guns N Roses was the biggest party band ever. Stolat why must you insist on it? Its almost as if you found out axl was pro-drugs you'd be hurt hahahah. Authority my ass.

As usual, the topic is made to be about Axl when in fact it's all about Steven.

Stop trying to bring Axl into every topic that's about a former member.  : ok:


/jarmo

Have you noticed that with the grunge era the whole drugs scene has also got grungier.  :rant:

hahah what?!?! Well I mean it changed ( with moods as well )

80's drug of choice was crack/coke so the music was energy driven , and up lifting

90's drug of choice was heroin , which led to more slowed down type of stuff.

BTW One of the most bad ass songs ever is Say Hello To Heaven - Temple Of The Dog

Youtube it , Best grunge song EVER!

And in the 2000 the drug of choice is...... well who knows what it is - paint stripper, battery acid, lighter fluid, rat poison......

hahahahah that seriously made me LAUGH out loud.

Is that the paint stripper or lighter fluid going to your head?

i cant believe the kind of shit i just read

anyone know how was steven gig in argentina?

what the fuck are you talkin about ???