Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/simpleSearch.do?pGroupID=1&simpleSearchString=Chinese+Democracy&primaryID=1

Just in case you want to get it now! Hopefully they don't have to pull this down again!

Well Im all paid up! Lets hope we actually see it this time  : ok:

What's with the straight-to-video price set on it? 9 quids?

Well at least they have the most reliable release date they've had so far.

Dunno maybe they're just trying to get there pre-order in first before other sites. Doesn't look like they have much info apart from what we know in terms of release date.
I'm holding off in case a special edition of CD comes out at the same time.

It's only back up there, because there's a tentative release date now.

i'm gonna go out on a limb and call BS :hihi:

So are we officially riding with the new logo and with HMV and adopting a G&R for this new era? I understand "Guns & Roses" is a general "typo," it's just...I guess they couldn't be GN'R anymore.

Get your credit cards ready folks.. :hihi:

Youre right... : ok:

We have all learned that HMV is NOT a reliable source... :confused:

I'll pre order it once there is an "official" date and album artwork to go along with it.

like said previously,its only on there coz HMV have heard bout the tentative release date.they have done it plenty of times before.until we get the "official" date then i wouldnt go forkin out the dosh.just read my sig and it says it all.


im gonna be at the store on the mornin it comes out anyway so no need to pre - order.  :peace:

you guess wrong: they could, as you can understand from the official site www.gunsnroses.com and its contents and texts

It was a joke. Fuckhead. Go home.

calm down     there were people who claimed that the band is now called guns & roses  instead of guns n`roses

With how most people pronounce AND, how would anyone ever know?  :hihi:

i know it`s nonsense :hihi:

Welcome to the world of Negative Karma.

Go read the rules before you post again.

I'm sick and tired of HMV.  >:(

Also the release date for the UK is 5/3/2006....(or 3/5/2006 in US format)

It's not like they have any info, they're just putting it up for pre-order like they've done many other times.

i'm confused as to why they can also speculate on the price being at ?8.99 - this is not very expensive for a new album here (though obviously, there are countless companies that can and do beat HMV's prices).  How would they have a price?  If this turns out to have more songs or extra features than previoulsy thought - then it is a low price.

ach - HMV be damned!

?8.99 is the typical price of most new CD releases in the UK (amazon, cdwow etc) unless they come with a DVD when they are usually around ?10.99.

Any knucklehead that would pay for an album that isn't finished, has no official release date, and may not even have a record deal deserves to get jerked around. : ok:

On amazon and cdwow yes, but at HMV?  I thought most new releases at HMV would be priced around 11.99.  Good if its changed for the better though!

is it on amazon or anyhing too? i want to pre order it too but i cant from hmv.

Do not bother pre ordering this until we know the album is definately coming out. HMV knows nothing more than we do, in fact they have proved on a few occasions they know less, that is the UK HMV site giving a release of 6/3/07 which is a tuesday as we know so the date on that site is wrong anyway.

I'm sure I heard something on Radio1 (UK) about HMV lowering their prices to compete with the online retailers a few months ago.

i hope that true

..back onto topic: they just read Axl's letter, anyway, its not going to sell out on the first day or anything so theres no point pre-ordering it

if you pre-order it won't you get it a couple of days or, if you're lucky, the day after it has been released.  buy it in the shop itself instead of waiting another day or 2 to listen to it.

Typically with these pre-mature Chinese Democracy pre-orders, all they get people is a cancelled order.

I'd wait until it's on store shelves.

quite right!!!!

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=mcpotw&page=title&r=CDJ&title=1125209&source=9316

5th March 2007

Beat me to it! Just had the email-

Dear Customer,

We are pleased to inform you that 'Chinese Democracy' (Guns N Roses) is now available to order. Click on the link below to pre-order now!

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=mcpotw&page=title&r=CDJ&title=1125209&source=9316

If you have any further queries please visit our helpdesk http://www.play.com/helpdesk

Kind regards,

The Play.com Team


I know it's probably nothing official though, they are probably getting the info from the website or internet and not the record company.

just got it too! yay!!

?12.99, bit more expensive than HMV but Play.com say the price hasn't been set by the record label yet.

Meaning it's just another rumour.

everyone was quick off the mark with that one.  just got the email myself

Anyone: Does this mean that AXL gave the CD to the record company?

No

And no track listing, CD artwork etc.

its not unusual for them to not have the final price as soon when it first goes on pre-sale is it?

Is this the first time its been listed by Play?

I don't think that this means something... play.com just looked at hmv.com and hmv.com just looked at a message board...

has anyone here ordered one yet?

it has been listed on play.com for a while but all they stated was that it was coming soon, not available to pre-order but leave your email address and they will contact you when it is available to pre-order. ?which has now happened to all of us who left our email addy

any american sites have it all of them are in the UK.

Yep, pre-ordered.

I hope you haven't pre-orederd from Play.com! Me and people I know have had pre-orders delivered days later than they should. You don't wanna be waiting for yours when everyone has picked theirs up from the high street.

Never had a problem, plus i can wait a few days......its not life and death is it?

True, its not life and death, but chances are if you message here and have pre-ordered, just the thought that your waiting for your order while its on general sale.......

Really I pre-orderd the last Bon Jovi CD from play.com and it arrived on the saturday when it wasnt released until the Monday.

Would be great if HTGTH members could pre-order Chinese Democracy : ok:

I think its a bit hit and miss, I know people who have got CD's on the Saturday before they are released and people who havent got them until the Wednesday after. Its the same with any online pre-ordering I think, I have heard similar things about amazon.
I think I am going to wait and go to the shop as soon as it opens on Monday.

thats how most big stores get their info , right....copying other stores sites or on message boards??

Play is not a very good site, i remember back during the summer when Eminem told the people about the Re Up, and they had a date for a bunch of different days off and on, so who really knows, and it did not come out really until december

not like it means anything but its listed under some german site too

http://www.musica.at/cdshop/

or whatever it is, i havent found any usa sites so far with it, but if i do happen to see any, ill be sure to put them

here here!  axl, care to hook us up....?

this is a site that cooperates with amazon germany i think... and they have it up for the last weeks allready....  without preorder or release date though

You can..... if you're in Europe!

i meant over this forum  : ok:

tbh id rather buy it in the shop if it comes out rather than pre-order it incase it doesnt come out again.

i'm thinking about doing both...sometimes people who pre-order online get albums a couple days ahead.

Haha ... fuck preordering .....

Quite often when I've done it, the album arrives days after release!

I'll just be first in line at the record shop ! :D

Here Here! ill be calling them early too, just incase i can get it a little bit early, if not ill be one of the first ones in line that morning!

Preordering means nothing to me because you almost NEVER get it before the release date.  The only reason i'd do it if there was some exclusive bonus that I wanted with the preorder.

I got the email too, funny this is I dont remember signing up for it.  :hihi:

play.com also have some decent GNR t shirts for half price. : ok:

fuck online preorders.. I'll be in the shop the minute it opens on the Tuesday it comes out (If I can't get it the Friday before which I probably will.. gotta love mom & pop shops!).

Speak. Seriously, why the fuck would anyone preorder this bitch? Maybe its just me but, I want the album as soon as humanly possible. My ass will be at Best Buy as soon as they open and will download it off itunes as soon as that shit hits.

We will see if it is true....

Can websites actually take your money for a RUMORED release date?  I might have to pre-order this thing to see what happens, but is it really worth doing it?  I just don't understand this whole ordeal...

Yes, they can.  All you're doing is reserving a copy of the CD.  If the CD never comes out, then you just get your money back.  It's like buying a ticket to a movie or a concert.

It's really only worth pre-ordering something if you get something free with it like a bonus DVD or CD.  Itunes will sometimes give you exclusive tracks or videos with a pre-order.    Although, pre-ordering from itunes is never too bad since you can download it the second it turns midnight on the east coast.

my thoughts exactly. i've been thinking of lining up for a midnight release for a while now!

I'm with that, all the way.? Pre-orders have only paid off one time for me, when I hopped on the Megadeth System Has Failed preorder.? Got my CD/T-Shirt the day before it got to stores.? Other than that they've all been a waste.

And this is GN'R we're talking about.? Does anyone REALLY trust the chances of getting Chinese Democracy on a said date?? If there was ever one pre-order I would avoid, this would be it, hands down.

hmv have it as the 6th, play have it as 5th, theyre both UK based tho, so play have used their head n thought about it whereas hmv have knocked it right out of axl's letter  ::)

I love how over at MyGNR some genius wrote 'what a great idea pre-ordering is...that way everyone will order the album and if it leaks it's ok since everyone will have pre-ordered it already'.

Only in GNR internet lala land... ::)

ya know this is alot like that episode of South Park......god i wish i could freez my self 8) man that would be so cool  :peace:


________________CHINESE DEMOCRACY IS COMING_______________
__________________________3-6-07__________________________
 :beer: :peace: :smoking: :drool:

I hope that they put it up on GNR store, so that we can pre order it from them.

When amazon.com has a preorder for it, I'll order it from them.

Yep. For some reason, people convinced themselves long ago they get it quicker by pre-ordering it. Even if you get it a day after the release, you still can get it quicker by going to your actual record store and buying it on the day of release.

Usually the pre-order only 'ships' before the release. But you usually don't have it in your hands 'til past the release day.

now theres something logically said

That would be great! Give us a chance to get it a day or two ahead of time. We are the ones who have waited this long.

Anyone else planning to steal it when it comes out?  Anyone?  No?

fuck that i say we should get it a good 2 or 3 weeks ahead of schedual or now even ?:drool: but before that we all have to sign a confidentiality agreement saying that we wont expose the songs to the public for download.............yeah :yes:



naa i'll give them my money they deserve it : ok:

I'd be OK with that...  :hihi:

I'll be waiting in line to get it, just to say I waited in line for a Guns N' Roses album.

Can't wait for the midnight sale!  I hope the expectations from retailers are high enough for this album that  most will elect to do one.

Midgnight sale? I don't know how often this is made in the USA, but in Germany? No way.


Sadly.  :-[

oh well

given the time difference youll still be able to get the album about 24 hours before the americans anyway

long live the 5th!  :beer:

actually NO.....unless you forgot about last time.

(puts on a Mr T voice) Only a Fool would pre-order Chinese Democracy  ;D

lmao, made me laugh, ill be spending money on this one though, havent spent money on a cd in a long ass time


well i guess i forget, wanna elaborate please

only ?8.99? dear dog...  :'( :crying: :no:

there`s no price set yet......

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/RCS/34/48/3-/ComingSoon.html?fd=26+Feb+2007&ld=11+Mar+2007

It didn't take long for Chinese Democracy to become the most popular album on this list (102 new releases between 26 Feb and 11 Mar)

You usually get new releases a couple of days before the street date from play.com.

I've never pre-ordered anything, so does anyone know the following:

Do they ship on the release date?

or

Do they ship BEFORE the release date so that it ARRIVES on the release date?

Because having it shipped ON the release date seems pointless to me...

I've pre-ordered.  I've waited over 10 years for the new album, so i reckon i can wait an extra day or 2 for it to be posted when its released.  And having it pre-ordered means i can forget about it, and then get a nice little suprise one evening when i get home from work, and i see it on the door mat  : ok:

Plus, i'll save a few quid buying it online! :hihi:

Just to say that on the shelf at hmv in edinburgh princes street they now have a space for chinese democracy. It says guns n roses, chinese democracy. 6/3/07. ( finally,hopefully??)order your copy now.

so even the stores are advertising it for march 6th, not just online.

that`s cool

Here we go again...

HMV IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE.

End of story.

I wanna have a photo...

They've had those cases out before for about a million different rumored release dates for the album. This one is no different.

first time iv seen it in a major store.

i will believe it when it happens, but im betting its gonna happen this time.

HMV must have a warehouse of those stickers by now.

and not 5/3/07 in edinburgh? ???

Let's not all forget when it was listed on Amazon for pre-order as well.

Stuff like this means nothing. I mean, yeah, there's a good chance that the tentative date of March 6 will stick, but until we get the final word from Axl, don't go by what any record stores say!  :peace:

Idem.

hbk *

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/GothBansidhe/DSC00854.jpg)

Not my photo, i dont think its the edinburgh HMV but it is a HMV

Source: Bansidhe at Chinese Democracy.com

on

www.PLAY.COM

and HMV website
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/simpleSearch.do?pGroupID=-1&simpleSearchString=guns+n+roses&primaryID=-1

Wow says May 3rd 2007........

Interesting. Wonder wh ere they got the May 3rd?

I'm pretty sure in Europe the date format is Day-Month-Year as opposed to in the U.S. where its Month-Day-Year.

I hope it's bullshit, I don't want to wait till may ?:'(

Yeah...a date of 5/3/07 in Europe is March 5, 2007. play.com and HMV.com are both based in the UK.

But still - none of this means anything. Just because play.com and HMV.con have it listed means jack shit - when there's a real album cover and track list up, then feel free to get excited, but for the time being, it means nothing.

It's March

Huh?  ???

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Your right, I think that is hilarious, May 3rd!! :rofl: :rofl:

Well, Axl said he's releasing the album in March ... so HMV aren't the source.  Axl is.

Yeah 05/03/2007 reads as the 5th of march 2007. that's the date PLAY.Com UK says.

And HMV UK says the 6th of March? Maybe the source is just the axl letter @ gunsnroses.com.

Damnit another 2 months? fuck  :rant:

Can we just put all these type threads into one?

READ THE THREAD.

play.com and HMV.com are both in the UK. In Europe, it goes day/month/year as opposed to month/day/year here in the U.S.

So, a date of 5/3/07 in the UK means the same as 3/5/07 here in the US.

HMV has put cases out with rumored release dates in the past. This is no different. Axl said himself that March 6 is tentative. Its not an official release date yet.

ohh...... :-[............my bad my bad

I really doesn't matter what HMV says.. It will be out when it is ready regardless of what is in HMV Edinburgh..

Honest mistake, but after all the newbies we had for a while there, I really don't have much patience for people who don't bother reading threads that they post in.

I dont know if this has been stated before, if so please delete.

If you go to HMV.co.uk site there is a link to pre order CD, when u click the link it comes up with a release date of 17-9-07 (mon 17 Sept)
Im Guessing this is incorrect and they have put that date up as a stand by until they get the real date. (I aint claiming this a as release date rumor)
just thought i would let u know its on their home page at the bottom. (it only comes up some times)

Link to home page
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/navigate.do?ctx=12;-1;-1;-1&pGroupID=1

link to CD page
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=-1;1;-1;-1&sku=527255&DCSext.carousel=ALBUMS_HOMEPAGE_COMINGSOON

Oh my God. Another fucking HMV thread.

these guys are busier than us...cooking up release dates.

busier than a cat trying to bury shit on a tin roof :rofl:

I hope this is true but they've done this before and took it down...but who knows...I guess we will see

We got an official announcement 2 days ago saying there was no release date. Why, 2 days later would they give the release date to HMV knowing full well that the fans would hear about this.

Mixing isn't done, mastering isn't done......we could add album artwork to that, printing and packaging etc.

GN'R won't tell us another date til it's set in stone. They must've of learnt from that mistake by now. I bet they could have given us a "tentative" date again, but they chose not to.....a wise decision.

Can somebody save the forum from those HMV threads? :O

what is hmw?

I don't know what HMW is :hihi: but HMV is like..a cd store lol

Why in the hell would anyone want to pre-order this CD.   :nervous:

Isn't being at the mall/store first thing in the morning when the album is released going to be part of the thrill ?



/bringbackadler

listing september as a release date

DOH!!



http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=43573.msg882923#msg882923

OHHH FOR FUCK SAKE :rant:

SORRY ABOUT THAT ,

I didn't relealize it was buried in some annoymous thread.

wait that was posted on Blabbermouth? they dont usually post rumors like that :no:

September 17 is the day the Illusions were released.

well, play.com says 4th of April... just crap..

Every fucking site is throwing shit against the wall; waiting to see what sticks.  There must be some sort of payoff for guessing the release date right.  I haven't bought a RS since Nov!  :rofl:  Axl or Del will let us know what is going on.  I'm just sitting patiently, listening to what I have and not dwelling on what I don't have.  Fuck rumors.

lol i bet they all have an office pool to see who is closer :rofl:

No shit.  All they have to lose is credibility.  Last I checked, speculating on GNR dates and happenings is a credibility killer.  Luckily most net users have short memories.  Of course, hardcore GNR fans care not when CD is released, we care it IS released.

I havent bought a RS since that Axl interview from like 99(?)? :hihi:

Yes they do. If it's on a bands forum then they'll post it.

I call it bullshit.

I'll believe a date when it will come from www.gunsnroses.com.

The rest is all crap to me.

hmv release date threads should be banned.

Why even post this shit?!!!! stop it! We will hear something from GNR soon, not HMV, stop posting this crap, it doest mean a shit!!

Seems like HMV have done  what they have done in the past and pulled a date from the sky and posted it on their site......

I wont believe then either.  I wont believe it till I walk into the record store and there it is

 : ok:IM with you on that one..... gettin it in person.... :peace:

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hi

just visited play.com n they said:

Guns N Roses - Chinese Democracy
availability: Due for release on 02/04/2007

least they didnt say april 1st :hihi:

 :rofl:

Yeah altho I still think we can chock this up to someone's fanciful musings ...

Chinese Democracy has been listed on Amazon.co.uk. Sure it has been on Amazon.com in the past, but the .co.uk site never shows any results. Could this mean Amazon know something?  :)

No image or Pre-Order - Only a 'send us your email'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chinese-Democracy-Guns-Roses/dp/B000NQDFP8/ref=pd_ka_1/202-4024092-6256659?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1173202111&sr=8-1

polydor? ?

probably not :hihi:

Wait for news from Axl/UNI instead... :yes:

I refuse to believe anything unless Sabastian Bach says it's true :hihi:

Amazon.co.uk have never bothered in the past with Chinese Democracy, unlike many other on line stores (including Amazon.com). I think they really believe Chinese Democracy will be here soon. For once, I think we will see the album this year  :)

Are amazon uk sayin something new?

I wouldnt believe any of those online stores. I'll wait for the update on gunsnroses.com.

so you want to hear about it after the rest of us? :rofl:

How is that possible? I dont understand.

I think he's referring to the rather sporadic updates on gnr.com.

All I know is there isn't even a whiff of a new album....the ONLY source we are going to hear about a definite release date from is GNR and ONLY GNR....NOT A NEWSPAPER, NOT A MAGAZINE FROM 10 BILLION MILES AWAY AND NOT FROM SOME ONLINE GURU WITH CONNECTIONS TO ORGANIZED CRIME. GNR will let us know in good time....or bad time.....either way... any other source besides GNR with in regards to a release date should stuff their over-sized domes into a dead grizzly bears asshole.....

                                                                With Peace And Love,

                                                                 Skinflick

Well I think history proves that nothing is true unless it comes from the official site or here on the main page of the website. So I dont see how I would hear it after everyone else. I just wouldnt be wasting my time believing something or someone who isnt associated with the band at all.

correct :peace:

Label: Polydor
ASIN: B000NQDFP8

This is something :o

Yeah, they wouldn't make up an ASIN number; that would be asinine.

Polydor will be the label the album comes out on outside the US .. they ARE part of Universal. In the us it looks like it will be out on Interscope.

and a quick look-see at polydors website http://www.polydor.co.uk/polydor.html does indeed show that GNR are one of their artists.  : ok:

Their link leads to GNRonline! Hopefully they update that.

Seems like they're the UK label for several Interscope artists.


/jarmo

Sorry for the ignorance, but what is an ASIN number?

wikipedia (despite it's full of shit) helps:

"The Amazon Standard Identification Number (ASIN) is a product identification number used by Amazon.com and its partners. Despite the name, it is not a "standard" outside of Amazon.com. It is valid only for referring to products within the Amazon.com network of sites."

In the long history of waiting for CD....I believe I remember Amazon having an ASIN number for CD in the past...perhaps somewhere around the VH1 special that said the album would be out that Nov?
 :-\

Well, if ASIN is something used only by Amazon, it makes sense that they would give one to any product in their catalog. Hell, I thought it was more like the ISBN for books. Something official.

Ummmm........It's not on Amazon btw.

its on amazon.uk...? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chinese-Democracy-Guns-Roses/dp/B000NQDFP8/ref=pd_ka_1/202-4024092-6256659?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1173202111&sr=8-1

And I think it means absolutley nothing. Hopefully we will hear another update soon to let us know the mixing is done and if not a release date, than maybe a time frame on when to expect a release.? :smoking:

It now says 2nd April on this page, Im not sure if this was on it before, but Amazon dont seem to be into putting things on their website unless they have some kind of official verification the album is coming, regardless of time or date. WASP's album has been delayed since Sep, and Sebastian Bach has been saying that his album will be out soon and hes also mixing, but neither of those have gotten onto Amazon

It's on Amazon.de aswell.

April 2nd on the amazon page?

i think it has been there since like december....

gruss aus nippes!  :beer:

That's right.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/o/ASIN/B000NQDFP8

There's less than eight weeks in between Feb 22nd ("currently mixing") and April 2nd (3rd in the US). Even if they'd turned in the album the day after the update, there's no way (in Axl's words) it would make it out on April 2nd.

I'd be very very suprised if its out April 2nd, if that was the case surely promotion would already have started? Also the amazon listing is for 'Guns & Roses' not Guns n Roses.

it also says polydor, which aint true!

^Polydor is legit.

Didn't see that....

Gruss aus der Uni  :beer:

/lastroots

amazon uk are normally quite reliable, so this is a shame, as it cant be out by the 2nd april. whereas theres albums out in june that i already know the release date of, and amazon havent put them up. theyve dropped the ball it seems.

yeah..amazon's gunna be the first ones to know :hihi:

Sigh.................Amazon.com-uk says.....................................

"We will email you when this title becomes available." NO DATE!!!!

I don't think that Universal has the CD.We don't hear anything.....

If the label has the CD 8 weeks to a release....(open letter Axl Rose)

if the tour dates stay the same my guess is itll be out some time from may 1st - june 10

We've seen this listed off an on for years on various websites.

Deep breaths everybody.

That would be strange coming out Sept 17th......anyone else remember that date? Thats when the Illusions came out over 15 years ago!

I wouldn't release it in May if I were them, thats when the new linkin park cd comes out and expect that to be #1 for a few weeks at the least.  GNR should still top them but they are probably the biggest selling band out.

Do you honestly think that Guns N' Roses, the band that performed in the biggest football stadiums in the world, the band that has Appetite For Destruction and the Illusion combo in its discography, the band that still tours the world after 15 years of no album, can be afraid of... ''Linkin Park''?

They should not give a flying fuck about Linkin Park album... :nervous:

I agree...there's ALWAYS going to be SOMETHING coming out...might as well do it when it's shitty!

well deal with reality....Linkin Park is as relevant as GnR in the mainstream these days....maybe even moreso :nervous: as sad as it is

I tend to ignore the mainstream and do my fishin' in the stands-the-test-of-time stream, where Linkin Park will be no more than a tiny fish turd, floating by unnoticed.

well mainstream artists need to be taken into consideration for those who seem to think that CD needs to be #1 in sales out of the gates

Maybe a hint...

20 years after AFD.....

what was exact afd release date? ???

july 21st 87'
falls on a sat in the uk this year

you serious think that linkin park will be at number for more than 1 week? I'm sorry to say this but in the united states right now "rock" music is very low on the pole. Hip hop-Pop-and country music sell. Linkin park may debut at number or 2 and then the week after they will be 22.

Tool's last album sold something like 550,000 copies in it's first week, and was essentially #1 in every country.

To me, if Chinese Democracy can get numbers like that right out of the gates, then it will most definately be dubbed a success by the general public.

yeah that was a year ago i think. and no CD will not sell like that the first week.

Dude are you smoking crack? CD will sell way more copies its first week. May I remind you that the greatest hit album that had absolutely no promotion has sold like 4 million copies and debuted at like number 3 in 2004......Dude CD will definitely debut at number one and might sell like 7-8 hundred thousand copies its first week.....

Jajajajajajajaja...Linkin' Park....jajajajajaja...Nothing to say. One of the best Rock N' Roll band off all times and one of the best frontman off all times are concern for Linkin' Park...

This is fuckin' fun!

Is the same shit year after year.

No more shit. Enought. :no:

The only thing i know is that i want Chinese Democracy NOW!!!!...

The most awaited disc of all history for sure!

Do you realize that the majority of the WORLD doesnt even know who is in guns n roses right now. Just because the hard core fans who post on the internet care mainstream rock fans dont. not yet anyway

so who bought the Greatest Hits? us?

may i remind YOU, that the greatest hits was full of songs very casual fans know and love, which is why it sold so well.

an album full of new material is a different ball game.

2007 seems to soon, this is a fake

you just proved my point. GREATEST HITS! AFD and UYI. The orignal GNR. How many people bought the greatest hits just for SCOM and Jungle? Do you honestly think that CD will sell that way when it first comes out?

yup....it will have no problems with sales.

700,000 1st week? wow that would be something special. Some of the hottest acts out today cant sell like that. That would be great

my prediction is that CD will have a similar rise to fame as AFD....in the beginning it may be looked at as the odd one out....and then suddenly it will explode....

why not? tesla's last album sold 300 000 in its first week

uh.. when the greatest hits came out, i recall reading a lot of buzz on the web about how "true fans" weren't gonna buy greatest hits cuz they already have all the albums. I never bought the greatest hits either. In fact, i do distinctively remember a lot of hardcore fans detesting the greatest hits album and refusing to buy it. So the greatest hits' success can be credited to the casual fans and the general public who wanted to sample some gnr material.

now whether CD will sell alot or not is a complete different question imo. We all know that us fans that post here are gonna go out and buy a copy the day it comes out. no question about that. But i have a feeling that most of the general population will look at all the wait and controversy and the general ill feelings towards axl rose orchestrated by the mainstream media and they'll think twice about dishing out their money for CD. I think most people will do what they do now regarding new bands. They'll download a few songs and if they like it, they might buy the album, and if not, they'll just put the songs they like on their ipods.

so sales could really go either way. we'll never know until it happens. i personally couldn't care less about commercial success. its all about the music. and that's how it should be.

I really don't care what you guys think about it but its just a fact, they are the biggest selling band right now.  I love GNR a million times more.  Hybrid Theory has sold 24 million copies and is the biggest selling cd of the 21st century so far, Reanimation sold 860,000 copies its first week, Meteora sold 810,000 copies in its first week and 11 million all together, Live cd and Linkin park/Jay-Z mashup both were #1 their first week.  So it would be pretty damn tuff to beat them out the week their new cd comes out and probably the next few weeks afterwards. 

Guns N' Roses for fucking ever!

i'm as much a gnr fan as the next person but how can you say for a "fact" that gnr's the best selling band right now when there's no new album to sell? until that comes out and sells a bijillion copies its first week, its all speculation.. not fact  :)

I think he was referring to Linkin' Park there ;-)

i think linkin park has sold something like 17 million copies in the US total album sales. And limp bizkit was right there also. So lets not get to high on the linkin park rollercoaster. GNR has sold 40 million US maybe. I would love to see CD go up linkin park's new album. But then agian if an american idol contestant cd comes out that week they will both lose.  :P

Linkin Park don't have the fan base they had 2001-2004... The mighty bizkit is a laughing stock and Fred Durst is hated as much as Axl Rose.. Great Promotion , Great single, CD could get 750,000 its first week... but you don't want it to drop to 150,000 in its second week? and drop it's third and so on... Chocolate Starfish sold 1,050,000 it's first week and had a 82% loss it's second week and only sold 5 million copies..which is great but it sold 1/5 it's total in 1 week.. because it was super hyped.? i hope GnR don't do that

It'll probably come & go like all the rest of them thus far, but I thought some of you folks might like to know anyway.

I just came across this link with 17th September as a slated release.

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/1125209/Chinese-Democracy/Product.html

Like I say, not holding my breath, and there's been no official announcement, but thought I'd pass on the news...

OMG!!!

honestly if todays news said CD would be out tomorrow they would easily push at least 700,000 in the first week. Theres so much hype around the record its legendary. The fact is just because somebody says "im not gonna buy it because it took so long" is bullshit. When it arrives it will sell/

This i actually believe..........16 years later to the day.............. Use Your Illusion - Original Release Date: September 17, 1991

I wish,.but no way.  Not enough time to promote..

there's bands that don't promote their album properly....  :hihi:


but also GNR promotes themselves pretty good with the name Guns N' Roses and the frontman of the band.. but yeah i think there's couple of more months before we have the record in our hands

9/17 would be a couple months...  I think word will come soon.  The tour's last show was only 2 days ago - I think almost all of us believed we wouldn't hear anything till after the tour.

Whenever it comes out , it will sell big. I know a lot of people that are just average fans of the band that are constantly asking me about whether it's ready or not.  I've browsed some of the other band's message boards and have seen threads on GNR, and people have an interest in this record.
The overseas sales will be ridiculous, the lunatics on these boards will all buy it.

Good single, good promotion will only add to the enourmous amount this thing is going to sell

Just an opinion

my vote is either then or november 28th

and i've heard both of those dates from a friend of a friend of a friend of another friend who then replied said info


long story. Hope its true


:peace:

i think GnR will easily sell big, even if it was shite (which we know it wont be), people would buy out of interest, or because it has GnR and they dont know the old band didnt get back together.

look at VR, now i happen to like VR, but contraband sold about 3 million worldwide (i think?), and people bought that on the basis of it bening slash, duff, and matt with stp old singer, they didnt need to hear the material, they just bought

fans buy cds, curious people download.
I know its a shame, but its just how it is....