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Not to be an asshole.....but don't you guys think the GN'R world is becomming boring?
Still nothing new, always the same.

Ok, great band! Great concerts!...but still nothing new:
no album
no new singles/videos/whatever >> even the new ones like 'better', 'madagscar' , 'chinese democracy' , 'the blues', .... are not really new anymore (for me though)

Even this board does always provide same kind of topics (like mine?? :-[)

But in my opinion the most important thing of a band is the fucking music! And I get bored lately.
 :no:

Anyone share this feeling or should I just leave the board (as I already know some of you will suggest that)

I understand your frustration.  I myself get frustrated sometimes about the lack of a release date, but I'd hardly consider myself BORED with GNR.  If that's the case sir, yes I suggest you take a break.  Find another hobby to occupy your time.  Why waste your time being bored?

I already left the board for a while (months) and came back, like a few weeks ago...but still nothing new....

Things only get boring when you don't have enough to occupy your time. If there ever was a time for GNR to be boring, its not now. 1996-2000 was boring for GNR.

I concur  : ok:

Just letting of a little steam then?  There are PLENTY of other things to worry about in life than the release of Chinese Democracy, I'm sure.  That should be a real small concern.  Enjoy what the band HAS done, get into another band, try doing something else to occupy your time.  That's about all I can suggest.

Yep, completely agree. If the plan is to drum up a bit of interest before the album? is released, then I don't think it's very successful. To this day, I just don't understand how it could take so so long to release an album!
I'm not saying I don't have anything else in my life apart from waiting for the album, but I just find the whole situation very bizarre...

well Axl said 6 march as realising date,but after that there were no news about new cd

I don't get it,it's only cd and nothing else

I have lost my faith in new album

What would be the point of Axl releasing the album say a year or two ago. None of the Australian market would buy it because up until recently Australia had no idea who the new band was. It's been 14 years people since Downunder has had any update - and do you hear any aussies whinge!

Now that aussies have gone to the concerts they are now as excited as everyone else around the world. Aussies can stop asking "what happened to Axl?". Now an Australian market will be part of the album release - makes sense doesn't it?

I agree that it's odd that there's all this GREAT material out there, seemingly enough to put an album out. ?It's supposedly close to being done, has been for some time now, and there's absolutely no end in sight. ?But to say Axl isn't forthright with information would be an understatement. ?So what are we to do? ?If you can't wait any longer, don't! ?I'll be here till the bitter end.

It does make sense.  I can totally see their reasoning behind "re-introducing" or "introducing" the band to parts of the world that haven't seen them in SO long.  I just HOPE that is indeed part of the plan.  The point I'd start getting worried is if they start hitting up the same cities again and there's still no release date for the album.  2002 was a failed excursion.  2006 brought yet another new lineup, and in the midst of it a change of drummers.  Maybe now things are finally stable within the band, god I hope so.  Maybe now the wheels are in motion, god I hope so.

Its really boring times to be a gunner fan.
I come to this board once in a while to check if there is official news but there of course never is.

wahhhhhhhhh my favorite band doesn't talk to me enough  :crying:

Maybe Axl is waiting for the war in Iraq to end. Hey! that's a great idea - he will release the album on one condition - that the troops pull out of Iraq. You want the album released.......better go on some anti-war marches!! There - no more boredom!

Now there's a scary thought.  Which will happen first, Chinese Democracy is released or the war in Iraq ends?  As crazy as it sounds, I'd have to go with Axl on this one.

i was going to post this exact same thread a few days ago but thought it wud get banned as usall.yes things are getting very boring indeed.everytime i come onto this board i check the velvet revolver section before i check the guns n roses section.there is always new things happening and new stuff to talk bout.axl lets this go on any longer and it wil be a big mistake.i can see every1 starting to bitch again.remember at christmas all thi sites going mad and bitching because of no updates.

ya, im getting pretty pissed off myself. at this point i dont understand what the deal is anymore, regardless of the few updates we have had from the official website.

Hey you guys! Come on keep the faith! It will all happen, just keep enjoying the shows and the album is just around the corner. If I can stay positive and as bigger a fan as I was in 1987, then surely anyone can!! Come on dudes!

Mike

How can you say that? What has happened recently that makes it look like the album is coming soon? Promotion? No. A single? Not even close. An update on the album art cover, track sequencing, credits settled? Nope. We haven't even been told the album is DONE. We've been told recording is done, but if you trust what the band says the album was closer to coming out in 2002 than it is in 2007.

You mention faith. And that's all you have. You have to believe to think the album is soon. Because no logical thought or memory for the past could bring you to that conclusion.

How about a tour? That might give you a clue.......

They had a tour in 01, 02, and 06. Did we get an album in any of those years? And it's not like they're doing a 'Chinese Democracy' tour anymore. They're just doing a world tour of places they haven't been to in many years. Nothing wrong with that, but Guns playing in Australia and Japan isn't a strong indicator for album release when they've toured the US twice on a tour actually titled 'Chinese Democracy tour' and nothing came from it then.

Yes, Guns playing in Australia is an indicator as I posted earlier on. As far as aussies are concerned, GN'R disappeared  14 years ago. If they released a CD without introducing the band to aussies first, they wouldn't sell any new CDs here in Australia......

I'll let the hyperbole of 'they wont sell any CDs here without playing concerts here' go and focus instead on the "introduction" concerts themselves. Tell me, did Axl mutter the words 'new album' or 'Chinese Democracy' while in Australia? Since there isn't a 40 page thread about it, I'm guessing not.

If this tour was preparing the world for an album, you'd think he'd do it some way that involved mentioning an album at some point in a 2 hour show.

Um yeh, I think he did........

PS. negativity just oozes out of your posts.......no wonder you can't look forward to a future album release.  :no:

I'm not being negative. I'm being realistic. Thinking an album is 'right around the corner' is an act of blind faith and while I do somewhat envy the ignorant bliss apparent in some posts (not yours) I have no choice but to try to apply thought to the situation.

I'm not excited about CD coming out. Because it isn't. When a date is listed on Universal's releases list, I'll be as happy as can be and as excited as can be. Until that time, I will remain 'negative' about Guns, and focus my positive energy on bands who actually come through, which today happens to be Smashing Pumpkins.

Well hey! There's a nice happy band for ya to focus on...... : ok:

Maybe it's time to face up to the fact that this album may never be coming out...

I don't know what do you want Axl to tell you. The release date? I think he is more interested in release it than us to buy it and hearing it. If he knew it he would have told us.

I don't know what is going on with the record, but I feel it's more closer than ever.

Yes you are. Plain and simple.


I really hope that comment is not aimed at my post. I will never say for a second that I am a bigger GnR fan than another person, but I live and breath this band, have done for nearly 21 years so dont for a second be giving it the ignorant bliss thing. That is a crock of shit my man!

You dont need to over analyse the situation by applying a huge thought process to the situation. Over the last year and a half I have always thought that the album will be out when its good and ready and the band and management are doing everything they can to make this happen. They know exactly what they are doing.

Yes I am very excited about the album coming out very soon, but the reason I stay positive about the album and the band is because I enjoy the positive things i.e the amazing tour they are putting on at the moment, the great reviews we are getting and an amazing summer of Guns N Roses last year! And whilst we are waiting for the album to come out I just get on with my life and enjoy other bands I like listening to like the Chili Peppers, Kaiser Chiefs, The Killers, The Foos and like you mr negative the Smashing Pumpkins who I have VIP backstage passes to see at Reading next Month!!

Just try being a little more positive mate! It make life a lot easier!

Mike

^ No, being a cynic is the way to go. Because I'm either being proven right (as I have about CD's release for the history of the world) or being pleasantly surprised.

Dont worry about that

when the japan shows over something amazin will happen,,, 3 things

1.-Realase that documentay of concerts
2.-fuckin good shows on Southamerica
3.-Chinese Democracy realase


not 3 at the same time,, but one of them very probably

Considering the thirteen years it took when it was more "far", "closer" can be any time among the next five or six years. ? ::)

I doubt he specifically mentioned the album, but they did play 4 or 5 songs that are speculated to be on that album.  Now Australia and New Zealand are familiar with those songs.  That's a start.

Granted this quote is from FIVE years ago, but unfortunately it still applies to today.  From Axl himself.

?I gave into a lot of pressure on Illusions both internally in Guns and externally in the press, those albums suffered as a consequence, it's not something I'm too excited to have to live with again. There are a lot of new songs that were just done in the last year that we feel that ?okay, well that bumps a lot of stuff off the previous list but it's time to stop that now and wrap up the baby. It feels right, the timing, and a lot of things. We?ve sorted it down to what songs are on the record. What the sequence of the songs is. The album cover art is ready. Blah, blah, blah. If you're waiting...don't. Live your life. That's your responsibility not mine. If it were not to happen you won't have missed a thing. If in fact it does you might get something that works for you, in the end you could win on this either way. But if you're really into waiting try holding your breath for Jesus cause I hear the payoff may be that much greater.

I'm just waiting for the new album, for GNR in Argentina and the surprises.

(Sigh) It's a negative response, but I really don't think the CD is coming out this year. It's kind of got me at the point where if the record doesn't surface in 2007, I just give up on this version of Guns N' Roses.

I have a son who's turning 16 this week, and he was two months old when the 'Illusion' albums came out. As much as I'd love for him to enjoy GN'R the way I have, we can't bond over new material because there's been none.

I wish I could put a positive spin on this, but how is it possible when there's always some setback that delays the release of 'Chinese Democracy'.....I tend to agree with the person who posted a few spots back, saying there's some legal issue which prevents Axl and/or THE BAND from ever putting the record out. Sad, because Axl on his worst day is infinitely better than that piece of shit that is fronting Velvet Revolver.

Yeah, I guess you're rught  :hihi:

But the thing is that this time we have "musical" evidence that something is going on. And the songs sound killer, so I belive it's possible.

Did he introduce the songs as being new? Or being on an upcoming album? He used to. But he doesn't anymore. Can't instill confidence in us fans, can it?

The songs really aren't brand new anymore.  Joking, but true.  He really doesn't introduce songs much at all these days.  Not like in the past.  They just play the songs for the most part.  I see what you're saying, but I wouldn't take it as a negative.  It's more positive that he's playing material that THOSE fans have never heard live before.

I used to stick up for this band and argue that it is still GNR. The longer this all takes the more I change my mind. In saying that I have always been an Axl fan first and foremost. It is not GNR. It never can be. But god I want to here this album that Axl and Co have been working on since the before I went bald. I am sure it will be great.

For the record: GNR was touring ahead of the release  of UYI in 1991. In various concerts, Axl made specific reference to when it would be  out. Mistakenly, he first  said August 1991, and  it  ended up  being Sept. But later  in the tour he got  it right. The point being, that if there was a known release  date for Chinese Democracy, he would be promoting it. So there  is not. And that is not good  news.

Sad but true.  He pretty much made it clear in his letter to the fans that once the album is ready for release they will put out a full promotional force.  No, "by the way the album will be out next Tuesday."  So we must continue to wait.  I wonder, if the album ever does come out, if we'll get an explanation on exactly why the heck it took SO LONG? 

thats not up to you to decide.  stop spreading garbage on this board and telling us this band isn't Guns N' Roses.  You have no say in what is or isn't Guns N' Roses what so ever.  The only person who does, is the person who OWNS it.

Actually I think it's up to everyone to decide for themselves if this is GN'R. If he thinks it isn't, then it isn't to him. It's a little unfair for him to state it as a fact though.

To me, it's not GN'R until there's a record that says GN'R and has these players on it. But that's not everyone's standards I know.