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The Perils Of Rock N' Roll Decadence => Duff, Slash & Velvet Revolver => Topic started by: leoroses on July 08, 2007, 04:46:06 PM



Title: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: leoroses on July 08, 2007, 04:46:06 PM
This song is the closest thing to GNR from VR that 've heard just bluesier.  Maybe it is slash is guitar tone.  I think this is a solid track.  I really don't know wha people's beef is with this track I give it a 8/10.  Great song for driving


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Rocker_GNR on July 08, 2007, 05:01:23 PM
I like it a lot.  :beer:


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: UK_Gunner on July 08, 2007, 05:03:25 PM
I love it, there are GN'R and STP vibes in the song and I just love the way it crosses over.

It is so agressive aswell, it will be an awesome live track.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: SlashIsTheMan on July 08, 2007, 05:14:49 PM
I love that song! It sounds different. But i love it.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Communist China on July 08, 2007, 05:28:24 PM
This song is the closest thing to GNR from VR that 've heard just bluesier.? Maybe it is slash is guitar tone.? I think this is a solid track.? I really don't know wha people's beef is with this track I give it a 8/10.? Great song for driving

It's not a GN'R influence it's a fucking Nirvana influence. If you can't hear the difference you're in trouble.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: RageNirvanaNIN on July 08, 2007, 05:31:00 PM
This song is the closest thing to GNR from VR that 've heard just bluesier.  Maybe it is slash is guitar tone.  I think this is a solid track.  I really don't know wha people's beef is with this track I give it a 8/10.  Great song for driving

It's not a GN'R influence it's a fucking Nirvana influence. If you can't hear the difference you're in trouble.

Nirvana? Where did you draw that conclusion? It's a good driving song as said before , its a good track not as bad as people make it seem. Than again , Play messages before it and its like eh hahah! :beer:


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on July 08, 2007, 05:33:24 PM
I like this song, I don't see why so many other people don't. Oh well, different strokes for different folks, I guess.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Wheres Izzy on July 08, 2007, 06:04:56 PM
I always liked it from the first time I played the album. I was surprised that so many people bashed it when I think it blows "for a brother" out of the water and not many people have had bad things to say about that one.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Smoking Guns on July 08, 2007, 06:12:29 PM
I think its good too! 

Its reminds of GNR's Double Talking Jive/Bad Obsession musically and Kurt Cobain vocally.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Grouse on July 08, 2007, 06:23:46 PM
I still think that duff should've done the vocals for this song...


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on July 08, 2007, 06:24:54 PM
I still think that duff should've done the vocals for this song...

I doubt Scotty's ego would allow for that


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Smoking Guns on July 08, 2007, 06:38:47 PM
I still think that duff should've done the vocals for this song...

I doubt Scotty's ego would allow for that

agreed.

I think Album 3 we may finally some Duff on vox.  At least on back up like he did on Civil War.  We need Mike Clink for album 3, that being said, Brendan did a great job!


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Jackamo! on July 08, 2007, 07:24:02 PM
I really don't like it. The only song on the album I skip.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: mrlee on July 08, 2007, 07:27:43 PM
i think its one of the best, cant see how its nirvana, it has slide guitar and actually has talent.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: duga on July 08, 2007, 07:29:57 PM
It's okay, nothing special. Probably one of the weaker songs together with SBQM.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: AXL 20 on July 08, 2007, 08:03:48 PM
I dig it


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Darkburst on July 08, 2007, 08:24:33 PM
I like Spay. There's a definite Nirvana vibe to the song. Slash's slide playing on the tracks adds a totally different dimension to it though.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: D on July 08, 2007, 08:35:16 PM
Its growing on me

I dont ever skip right to this song to hear it, but when listening all the way through I like it somewhat.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Jim Bob on July 08, 2007, 08:48:05 PM
i think the song blows.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: metallex78 on July 08, 2007, 08:51:36 PM
Was a bit so/so when I first heard it, but I'm quite liking it now.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: CheapJon on July 08, 2007, 09:34:54 PM
someone said duff shoudl sing it.. hell he should'a sang on every fucking VR song


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: GnFnR87 on July 08, 2007, 09:36:23 PM
its okay but i think the chorus is kinda awkward and unimaginative. it would've been awesome with a more creative chorus. just my opinion.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Jim Bob on July 08, 2007, 09:58:37 PM
i love how everyone is like 'oh it sucked at first but its grown on me'

i'l say it again, if a song needs to "grow" on you then you are FORCING yourself to like it.   You can do that with any song.   A good song shouldn't need to be listened to 100 times to make it likeable.



Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: GeraldFord on July 08, 2007, 10:15:26 PM
I love it.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on July 08, 2007, 10:18:42 PM
i love how everyone is like 'oh it sucked at first but its grown on me'

i'l say it again, if a song needs to "grow" on you then you are FORCING yourself to like it.   You can do that with any song.   A good song shouldn't need to be listened to 100 times to make it likeable.

This sometimes happens to me with an album that's either complex or really moody, or it's something that I wasn't really sure what to expect.  Sometimes a complex/unorthodox album or one that is different than what I expected might take a solid number of listens before I can appreciate it or really get into it.  But I think a lot of people want to like something so bad they force themselves into it

In the case of Libertad, it's not like this is some complex, nuanced album.  This isn't Pink Floyd here.  These songs are very simple and you can get the gist of all the musical layers/lyrical/thematic content in a couple listens.  But I'm sure some people want to like it so bad that even though they didn't at first, they've convinced themselves that it's good.  This is not the type of album you should have to listen to 20 times in order to appreciate it, in my opinion

As for Spay, it's noisy and "aggressive" and in that way it stands out from most of this album.  I think the chorus is really grating and awful.  The music is just "decent" and I never heard anything in this song, musically, lyrically, vocally that made me want to go back and listen to it again


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: faldor on July 08, 2007, 10:29:22 PM
The song's alright.  Not one of my favorites from the album, but I don't skip over it.  I expected more from the short clip of the track I heard before the album came out, but it's still okay.  I would put it in the bottom half as far as the tracks on the album go though.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Jackamo! on July 08, 2007, 11:27:57 PM
i love how everyone is like 'oh it sucked at first but its grown on me'

i'l say it again, if a song needs to "grow" on you then you are FORCING yourself to like it.   You can do that with any song.   A good song shouldn't need to be listened to 100 times to make it likeable.


So your not allowed to change your mind/ opinion?


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: faldor on July 09, 2007, 12:00:30 AM
i love how everyone is like 'oh it sucked at first but its grown on me'

i'l say it again, if a song needs to "grow" on you then you are FORCING yourself to like it.? ?You can do that with any song.? ?A good song shouldn't need to be listened to 100 times to make it likeable.


So your not allowed to change your mind/ opinion?
I'll agree with both of you on this, if that makes sense.  On the one hand, for me at least, it sometimes takes awhile for songs to grow on me.  Certainly not 100 listens though, I'd say once you get into the double digits if it doesn't click by then, then it probably never will.  And for the poster that said that these songs were pretty simple and should hit or miss pretty much instantly is right on.  These songs aren't too complex, part of the reason I didn't like them the first couple listens.  The more I hear them though the more comfortable I get with their simplicity.  I really don't think there's a BAD song on the album, then again I also don't see many that will stand the test of time either.  Regardless, I like all the tracks and enjoy the album wholeheartedly, and that's all that really matters to me.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Drope on July 09, 2007, 12:43:17 AM
I think it's a great son, but could have been better. But it's great anyway  : ok:


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: whpprsnpprr on July 09, 2007, 01:32:40 AM
I'm another guy that likes it!  It's not my favorite on the album but it's still awesome


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Ali on July 09, 2007, 02:35:46 AM
I dig the track, but the vocals, especially during the course don't really grab me like, say, "Get Out The Door".  Truth be told, I find them a bit grating during the chorus, much like I do with "She Mine".

The track is cool, definitely one of the more aggressive tracks on the record.

Ali


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: leoroses on July 09, 2007, 03:14:48 AM
I love this song because it is just all about the straight aggression the chorus isn't the greatest but this song is about sending a message and you can't beat slash's playing on this song I love the tone.  Although not the greatest song on the album prob my 6 or 7th favorite


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: duga on July 09, 2007, 04:45:24 AM
i love how everyone is like 'oh it sucked at first but its grown on me'

i'l say it again, if a song needs to "grow" on you then you are FORCING yourself to like it.   You can do that with any song.   A good song shouldn't need to be listened to 100 times to make it likeable.



5-10 times is okay. Not 100 times.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Krispy Kreme on July 14, 2007, 11:53:26 PM
i think the song blows.

How utterly unpredictable.


Title: Re: Spay why doesn't anyone really like this song
Post by: Billo on July 15, 2007, 04:11:03 AM
I like scotts kurt voice...its spooky how he can sound like alot of diff singers....I think its a good song..sounds very much like Nirvanas dirty grunge sound to me.. : ok: