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MY VELVET REVOLVER MUSIC VIDEO IS GOING TO KICK MTV'S ASS
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WELL THIS JOB WAS ONE OF THE FASTEST AND EASIEST ONE'S OF ALL TIME. WE SHOT OVER TWO DAYS ON A MEXICAN TOWN SET OUT BY MAGIC MOUNTAIN. IF YOU READ MY EARLIER BLOG YOU WILL KNOW WHAT WE DID EXACTLY. PRETTY MUCH MADE A NON STOP ACTION THRILLER THAT LOOKS LIKE A TRAILER TO ONE HUGE BUDGET FEATURE FILM. THE PYRO, STUNTS AND GUNFIGHT WERE AMAZING. THE GUNFIGHT WAS ADDED TO THE STORYLINE ON SET, SPECIFICALLY FOR WEILAND'S SECTION OF THE STORY. I AM FINISHING UP MY SPECIAL EFFECTS TOMORROW AND IT AIRS ON FUSE TV TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. THE BAND HAS ONLY HAD THE KINDEST WORDS FOR ME AND MY PRODUCER ARTHUR.

SLASH WROTE- Its been very busy out here on tour, but I just had to let u know how fuckin' great the video is, not that I ever had a doubt, u were so committed to this project, but it really surpasses the standard by which the music video medium is currently dictated. I'm thankful that we chose u to help us realize the "vision" that we had, I don't think anybody else could have come close to accomplishing what u accomplished.Its the best video I've ever been involved with, for sure. Its as good or better than any of those epic GnR videos at half the cost in half the time. Not really ANY comments from me for change, it all works the way it is, I don't want to fuck it up. There is a couple shots of me during the spyglass section in the beginning that are a little lackluster, but everything else, the solo, the van, the fight scenes are killer!

SCOTT WEILAND WROTE- You guys are fucking geniuses. You made our vision come alive, but more than that, you took it to another level. I'm more pleased and more proud of this video than any other video I've worked on in the past. I guess the best compliment that I could give to both of you is simply to say that I have absolutely no comments and no requests for changes to be made (this has never happened).

You guys rock.

-Scott


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yeah kickass  : ok: So it's airing today or tomorrow?

Wow, impressive words...

Judging by Slash's comments about this video being even greater than November Rain and Estranged, I am absolutely prepared to be witness of one of the best video clips in rock history.

 :peace:

And Im prepared to witness you trash it, in typical fashion, once it comes out.

Fighting talk from Slash there.? "As good or better than" the GNR trilogy - hmm, that's an interesting comparison.? And when this video airs and opinions start flying, let's all remember who initiated it.

Well to be honest it isn't that hard to do better than those videos, they are bloated, imo garden of eden is a better video than the nov rain, estranged, don't cry trilogy...

when is this goin' to be aired? It sounds promisin'  ;D
 :smoking: : "Roll over right, keep it throught the night, right right, keep it throught the night, i'll smash right throught your spotlight"  : ok:

LOL. Slash is a proven liar.That is 100% FACT.He has absolutely zero crediblity,yet the sheep remain loyal.The power of ignorance is astonishing.

when i first read the story for the video i was a little freaked out by the seeming cheesyness of it.

il reserve judgment til ive seen it completed, but regardless of the band been happy with it still doesnt sell it to me.

slither was a cool video so was fall to pieces... dirty little thing was a real cool idea but could have maybe been done better. but it atleast it rocked.

You are joking, right?  ::)

Exactly, I sure as hell hope slash realizes the shit storm it will cost if the video isn't as good as the 'trilogy'.

What a great joke  :hihi: :rofl: :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl:


come on guy keep quiet with your fuckin' power  : ok:

Where? On the forums?

Slash can say all this kinda stuff, but no-one remembers every quote he makes except losers like us.

Except that in this day and age, discussions that originate amongst fans on forums like this don't just remain here.? Journalists and other music sites get their copy, or parts of it, from here, and so it spreads...

In my opinion, Slash is more than capable of working the media to his advantage and he's well aware of the impact of what he says, especially regarding GNR.? He's got a new album to sell and, by bringing Axl's or GNR's name into the frame, he knows he'll generate more interest, and if it's a comment designed to cause controversy, then so much the better.? His unnecessary remark regarding the GNR videos was just another excuse for a dig at Axl.

he was comparing the vids he did while in guns with this new one how is that a dig at axl?

According to you if any of the ex gunners say anything about guns it's just a lame attempt at getting some attention? That's some pretty delusional thinking right there...

"half the cost in half the time"? - Come on, that's an obvious dig at Axl.? Or maybe you think Slash is holding himself accountable?? Personally, I don't but if that's your opinion, fine.


When one minute they claim to want to put the past behind them and then the next moment deliberately, and quite unprovoked, compare their current work with their previous work, what am I supposed to think?? The first of Slash's two sentences I highlighted, said all that was necessary regarding the VR video.? The second was there to add disparaging comments regarding the GNR videos and, as I said above, I don't believe that he's holding his hands up to bearing the responsibility on that score.? However, if you consider that delusional thinking, then again, that's fine by me.

who's not a liar in the music world? yeah that's a tuff one..


the stuff slash said was maybe only to the producer and not for fans to read.. so the dude blogging about it maybe should've kept his mouth shut about that..

yeah, the impression i get from reading slash and scotts comments is that it is what they sent in an email or something to the director for him to read concerning any alterations to the video they would like to see.

but the director has released this info and has now caused a stir with what slash is saying. its not slash been a media whore, its the director been a little foolish if you ask me.

Dnt read so much into it , its just his opinion and probably has a point with regards to the money and time.

Oh yeah because Slash would never say anything of this stuff on his own right? The more likely explanation is that the director asked scott and slash to a little something to help advertise the director and thats what they chose to say.

Slash is perfectly within his right to comment on anything that he was personally involved with...he was involved with the 'Trilogy' and is therefore entitled to make any comment he likes on them.  Whether you like it or not is moot...they are Guns videos and he was a Gunner.

it's like me not being allowed to make any comments on past acting jobs i've done, because someone else is now playing the part; i'm perfectly entitled to make any comment i like...you don't have to like it but tough.

BTW...just a little side question...what will all the Slash haters do if there is a reunion? Will they suddenly be converted and 'remember just how good he was'?

you don't get it do you?.. what slash sent to dean karr was probably a personal "thank you" not meant for the public eye but the stupid director blogged about it to gain fame, tell people how great he was or something.. i dunno, but i do know that you always try to diss one of the guys who made you a fan of GNR, that's lame, don't say otherwise 'cuz i'm sure you didn't hear the new material the first thing when you became a fan you surely must have heard AFD and UYI first right? right..

why the fucking hate? for real, all people.. what slash said about a reunion weeks (months ago) was very stupid in that interview..

GNR is and will always be my favourite band.. whatever member is in the band.. i love them more then anything (except family and friends and such you know..)

Vr to me is a pretty good band (maybe in my top 20-25) and i follow them mostly because of duff and slash.. i don't get why some people needs to hate and contantly misunderstand

i wanna tell the fans of bot "sides" that you don't have to be so defensive/offensice when it comes to these 2 bands (pretty wierd that a 16 year old gets that but not some maybe 35 year olds)

How is what I posted last hate? I'm quite sure the director would not post that without permission from slash and scott. Do you think they would ever want to work with him again if he just went around posting personal emails on the internet? No fucking way. The most logical explanation is the one I said. He probably asked them to write a little note about what they through of his work on the video as a little advertisement for him. Why is that so hard to believe?

to answer your questions..
1. your last post wasn't hate.. but in general it's hate (too strong word maybe but i'm swedish i blame my lame vocabulary)
2. you answered that yourself ;)
3. it's not hard to believe, you can very much be right, like i can be

btw when i said you i didn't mean only you, i meant people like you :rofl:

You see that's the part that I can't quite reconcile.  Someone young, naive or new to the business, yes maybe, but Slash is far too experienced to allow himself to be caught out like that.  Therefore I have to believe that he knew full well that his comments would become public.



Absolutely, and I don't believe that anyone has questioned his entitlement to comment.  My posts concerned the wisdom of making such a comparison and his motives for doing so.  Nothing more.

I find the trilogy to be cheesy, bloated, and embarrasing compared to the music of the trilogy, which is phenomenal. It isn't hard to top the videos from UYI.

So, about this: If you always support Axl, you'll think this is a dig at him, and you'll call Slash a liar and hate the song and video. If you always support Slash, you'll think it's great and remind others of which GN'R members are actually releasing new music. If you're in the middle, you're not on this forum.

Without a doubt.

I think Axl said something to that effect on Eddie Trunk didn't he?

What does this sound like to you?

"The video pits Velvet Revolver against a crew of bad men who kidnap a fallen angel ? literally a chick with wings who falls like a meteor from high above the Earth, crashing into the desert sand with atomic force. The VR boys use explosives, Molotov cocktails and powerful six-shooters to exterminate the evildoers and rescue the winged woman."

Hopefully its them not taking themselves too seriously.

Sounds more like it has the potential to be cheesy and embarassing.  Maybe not bloated though  :hihi:

If it's supposed to be "camp" and bring a laugh, that'll be fine.?

If it's like the trilogy where I found myself laughing "at" not "with", that's an entirely different story...

 

"We came up with this idea, and it just sort of coincided with the album idea and title," he said. "It originally started as just a spaghetti Western and then morphed into a combination of a spaghetti Western married to this freedom-fighter concept," with a splash of "City of God" thrown in for kicks. "We spoke with several different directors, and no one could wrap their head around that concept. It was a two-day shoot, and we had no idea if it would look like crap or if it was going to look amazing. We knew it had to be cool, that it had to have a vibe and it couldn't look cheesy. ... And it came out looking badass.

"I've always been such a huge fan of those spaghetti Westerns," continued Weiland, who bears an uncanny resemblance to Clint Eastwood ? circa "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" ? in the video. "I always thought it would be cool to do a remake of 'A Fistful of Dollars,' so it was kind of a childhood dream to be able to do something like that."


Sounds like Weiland thinks it's serious and "badass"

I always thought Scott bares resemblance to Clint Eastwood, it'll be an interesting video that's for sure.

Where did he say "serious?"

Does someone have to directly say something for you to pick up on it?  I didn't put the word serious in quotes, did I?  I never claimed he said it directly. 

But he sure implied it.  If they're using a freedom fighter concept and it has elements of the movie City Of God, that's a very strong sign that they aren't just joking around and having a good time.  And when has Weiland ever NOT taken himself seriously or displayed a sense of humor of any sort?

And before you, in predictable fashion, bring up the "for kicks" line, I'll save you the trouble.  That's not a direct quote from Weiland, it's a line by the guy writing the article.

His appearence on David Spades Comedy Central show.  The music video for "Days Of The Week."  The video for "Big Bang Baby."  VRs 2004 Halloween show.  The STP shows in which he dressed in drag. 

The impression that I get is that the video might be conceptually and stylistically similar to Kill Bill or Grindhouse: an inherently campy tribute to its influences, but not an explicitly silly parody. 

What about waiting for the fuckin' video to come out, before making judgements?

are you crazy? judge something before we've heard/seen it? what universe are you from :hihi:

AJajJA... Very.. Very Funny Video.

HBK *

That video is garbage.

Truly embarrassing and painful to watch.


It's like when I watch Old Bon Jovi videos from their first two albums painful.

Gotta love the Runaway video :hihi:

This video better than or equal to the trilogy?

Now that was a funny comment...

It was?

As I said, everyones entitled to their own opinion.  Youre entitled to yours and Slash is certainly entitled to his.  I personally dont like the new video more than the big GNR ones, but I dont think its far off, and I dont see whats absurd about Slashs opinion at all.  Those complaining about how cheesey and nonsensical the video for "She Builds Quick Machines" is must be forgetting the dolphin-swimming, dolphins in the jet, green body paint, water-emerging, levitating guitar solos, exploding cars, cake-diving, and Revolutionary War wardrobe of the GNR videos.  And those videos took themselves much more seriously than the VR one.

Yes.

Okay. Why?

Cause from what we've seen it's not the best video (or any equal to the old GN'R videos) that Slash has played in.

Playing a solo infront of a burning man is not the best video Slash has ever been in... It won't sell as much as any old GN'R video, you won't be seeing it for the next 15-20 years on MTV or any other music channel.

You just don't make such statements when your history is huge with that "other" band.

What a compelling argument. 

Slash disagrees with you.  Its his opinion.


Some might prefer that to playing on-top of water or floating over a sidewalk on an out-of-frame rolling platform.  Is that a funny opinion to have?


Theres a lot of videos that wont "sell as much" (I assume you mean albums), or be on MTV 20 years from now - does that make any expression of preference to GNRs videos "funny?"


Apparently you do.  Its Slashs opinion on a video...although by bringing up his history with that band, youve made it into something more.

Cool. All we have to do then is wait and see what the majority thinks...



Exactly, it's not a funny opinion. But I think Slash's is...


Videos sell your albums. It's been like that since MTV started broadcasting and people found out about it. Very few bands have managed to sell millions of records without videos on music tv channels.

And yes, I still find Slash's comment funny no matter what you say.

It's like Matt's comment on November Rain. He didn't like the song cause it had lots of piano (and Matt rocks...), but he enjoys the fact that it's one of the songs (probably the biggest one) that made him one of the most recognizable drummers on the face of earth.

I guess it's wrong to find an opinion funny... All opinions are great...


Apparently I was not in Guns N' Roses, I wasn't part of videos that are still being considered as some of the best videos ever made and are still being played on some HUGE music tv stations.

But I guess this particular video is amazing since Slash thinks it's the best video he's ever been involved with.

And that is cause as you say they don't take theirselves seriously...


They had a vision? I thought they had just watched a Clint Eastwood movie the other night and decided to make one themselves...

Yeah, you're right. His comment wasn't funny.

It was hilarious.

Or wait... Let me put it in a way that you'll like it.

I find his comment not serious. And this is my opinion.

Better?

P.S. I don't think Weiland is not taking the whole Clint look seriously...

It's really funny to see how many VR haters are here at this forum  :yes:
Come on guys do something more profitable with your time, if you don't want to enjoy the fuckin' music let the rest do it

Hate is a very strong word.

And yes, we are enjoying 'Clint' immensely!

I bet I've spent a lot more money on VR's records, singles and merch than you or most VR "lovers" here have. Not to mention the promotion I've done for them in Greece.

So, why am I a hater?

Please explain.

I ain't a VR hater, quite the opposite in fact, I'm a pretty big VR fan.

I just think this video is CHEESE! :hihi:

You know, Slash's comments were probably just hype for the video and paying a compliment to the director.  Kind of like an actor will do with whatever new movie he's in, you know the "it was the best script I have ever read", "best movie I have ever acted in" kind of hype. 

You fucking people take these guys so fucking literal, and I mean for both bands.

At first all the arguing is funny and then it gets quite annoying.

Well, the title of this thread does have the words 'kick arse' in it...

Your point being?

Well the previous poster was complaining about "fucking people" taking things so "fucking literal".
I was being fucking literal about the title of the thread - in a funny way.

Sorry guys, that video was silly.  MTV in the States won't show anything that has guns or someone getting shot in it (dates back to rap videos in the 90's) so I guess at least that part will be edited.  But my point is that it just wasn't very good or coherent.  And I still think the song is terrible after several listens (that chorus? WTF?).  Sorry to be so negative, I promise I'm not inherently a VR hater.

Sooo.... has MTV even aired it yet? :hihi:

MTV really didn't play any videos from Contraband-it will probably be up to VH1-they played the VR videos the last time

The first minute of the video is a disaster. Nothing but looks through a binocular about eight times. And Slash coming up outta nowhere with his guitar, it'd been cooler if the video had been mixed up with some shots of the band rocking out in an old saloon or something.

I thought the video was...Well, weird and funny. The first half downright sucks;  the rest is allright. The camera should have stayed on Slash during the solo, though; it goes back and forth too much.

And I cannot help wondering why such a fuss is being made about Slash?s comments...C?mon, it?s their latest video, of course they are going to say it?s the best thing they have ever done. It happens all the time. No bandmember of any band will ever say "well, this album is kinda crappy compared to the ones before, but dont be jerks, buy it" or sth to that effect. :hihi:
If Slash is asked about the video he obviously wont go "this video is weird like the epic gnr?s ones, but sorta worse and with no dolphins".

you can get off axls nutz now!

Did your parents ever ask you to run away from home?

Back on topic please.

Thanks.

I just wanna see the new VR VIDEO! I hope its the LAST FIGHT SONG!

If by the LAST FIGHT SONG you mean She Builds Quick Machines, your wish has come true  : ok:

And as much as I like VR, I have to say I think this video is a real big pile. No comparison to the GN'R videos.

Hola changos:

Well Ive already seen the new video, and yes its not as "complex" as the GNR videos, but you gotta recognized its very good, both the song and the video and especially the part where Slashs solo starts and the guy is burning... keep on soloing...

I bought the deluxe iTunes edition that comes with the video... wtf? [Edited for Grouse, who likes to whine] Who the fuck is the target audience?

Let me see if I get this right...

a) Mexicans steal Lady Liberty.
b) Scott Wieland in a Poncho shoots up a large portion of a stereotypical border town.
c) 145 lb Duff is supposed to be a badass.
d) Slash can choke slam a fully grown Mexican.

The only guy in Velvet Revolver that even looks like a man that can handle himself in Matt. Seriously, this video is an embarrassment.

The album, for the record in mediocre at best. [Edited for Grouse, who likes to whine]

Ah yes lets start again with the pathetic gnr comparisons? ::)

Now some mod please delete this lame attempt at starting shit...

Why? I can remove the GN'R refernce the post still has the same message.

Look at it like this, you got 16 songs for $11.99 from iTunes and the video was just a throw-in. ?I haven't watched it yet and now I don't really want to :)

Ali

Good point, but I don't mind the money. The video is just offensive, not to me in particular but man. Who thought this was a good idea LOL?

Also, I am aware that the use of the word "Retarded" is equally if not more un-PC but I am not a celebrity and my post will not be distributed through iTunes.

there's already a thread about this and yet you felt the need to start a new thread about it and throw in a little snide remark towards vr....so you knew people would take the bait....

And for the record I don't like to whine but I do like wine ?:yes: