Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Professional wrestler Chris Benoit was found dead along with his family this afternoon in his Atlanta home, according to published reports.

The Atlanta-Journal Constitution is reporting authorities confirmed that Benoit, 40, his wife, Nancy, and their 7-year-old son were found dead at the home on Quarters and Redwine roads in Fayetteville.

Officials would not say how the family died, other than to say they weren't shot to death.

The Montreal-born Benoit, who moved to Edmonton when he was 12 years old, lived in Sherwood Park as recently as May 2000.

World Wrestling Entertainment issued a release over Benoit's death.

"World Wrestling Entertainment is deeply saddened to report that today Chris Benoit and his family were found dead in their home," the statement reads.

"There are no further details at this time, other than the Benoit family residence is currently being investigated by local authorities.

WWE spokeswoman Cheryl Kong in Toronto said Monday night?s ?Raw? TV program would serve as a tribute to Benoit and his family.

Benoit was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles over his career.

Benoit was scheduled to wrestle at the Vengeance pay-per-view Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called ?personal reasons.?

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"Tonight's RAW live event has been cancelled and fans in Corpus Christi
have been sent home. Wrestlers and WWE staff are being allowed to
leave the building to mourn the passing of Chris Benoit.

The WWE wrestlers and staff were gathered together late this afternoon
and were told the tragic news that Chris Benoit, his wife Nance, and
his son Daniel were all found dead today in their home.

Tonight's RAW is now scheduled to be presented as a tribute to Chris
Benoit and his famil"

This is some crazy sad shit.  Just read that the authorities are presuming that this was a homicide however no gunshots or stab wounds.  Hope it isn't true but I'm sure its possible that this was a homicide and then suicide by either poisoning or suffication.

The latest report that I've seen is that it's being investigated as a possible murder-suicide.  Totally shocking stuff.

they just got done showing the WM 20 when he won and when eddie came out to the ring and raised his hand. Kind of a tear jerkin' moment right there for me and i'm sure alot of people to see them both there together and then both within a year year and a half both gone. This is a sad, sad day for the WWE and fans accross the world. Rest in peice Benoit :'(



:peace:

murder-suicide? where the fuck you hear that? maybe it was a murder but the last thing in my mind is that either him his wife or his kid fed the others decon (rat poison).

i say decon because didn't they say on the program that Benoit said he couldn't make it becuase his wife and kid were vomiting blood? The only thing i know of that does that sort of thing is basically rat poison.

and something else i don't get is if your wife and child were bleeding from the mouth wouldn't you take them to the hospital?

so many questions, hopefully we get some answers soon.

This story is just breaking and more and more details are becoming available, but this is what Fox News has just posted:

Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being investigated as a murder-suicide, but said that could not be confirmed until the evidence was examined by a crime lab.

WAGA reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend, and then himself sometime Monday.

A concerned neighbor called police. The bodies were found in three different rooms.

The lead investigator, Sheriff's Lt. Tommy Pope, told The Associated Press that the deaths were being investigated as homicide, and said the cause of death awaited autopsy results on Tuesday.

Pope said the three were found about 2:30 p.m., but he would release no other details about the deaths at the house in a subdivision near White Water Country Club.

Chris Benoit Tribute Video

**Update** The Atlanta Fox station is reporting the following on their website:

Authorities say pro wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and seven-year-old son were found slain toda at their Fayetteville home.

Detective Bo Turner told Atlanta television station and FOX affiliate WAGA that the case is being investigated as a murder-suicide, but said that cannot be determined until the evidence is examined by a crime lab.

The station says investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and the boy, Daniel, sometime over the weekend, and then himself sometime today.

A concerned neighbor called police. The bodies were found in three different rooms. The lead investigator, Fayette County sheriff's Lieutenant Tommy Pope, said only that the deaths were being investigated as homicide. He said the cause of death awaits autopsy results tomorrow.

The 40-year-old Benoit, a native of Canada, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several
tag-team titles over his career.

Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the
last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."

Benoit maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
The federal-style house is in a secluded neighborhood set back about 60 yards off a gravel road, surrounded by stacked stone wall and double-iron gate.
 

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I was also just reading on a news site that one of Benoit's fellow wrestlers was amongst the last to talk to him via text message and said Benoit sent him a very odd text message as the last one and it really weirded him out.  They wouldn't give the name of the other person though.

He was always my favorite wrestler. Such a sad story. I hope it turns out that this was just a terrible accident. RIP Benoit and family.

I can't believe that he would do a such a thing like kill his family thats just to much, He wasn'ts like that. they had to be poisened some how or way. You think maybe it was a Carbon monoxide leak or something like that?

this whole story is crazy. Chris Benoit was one of the best wrestlers around today. I haven't been watching WWE in a while but back when I watched him in ECW/WCW he was always one of my favorites. I can not imagine he would kill his wife and son. There has to be more to this story.

As much as I hate to say it, all signs are pointing to him doing it. ?You can't say he wasn't like that because you only knew "Chris Benoit, the entertainer", not "Chris Benoit, the person". ?Who knows what problems he was having with them or what. ?It just seems that his odd behavior over the weekend correlates very well with the scenario the police investigators have put forth so far.

What really bedazzles me is.....I bet Vince McMahon feels quite the ass now eh? ?He does his little death controversy angle and within one week...Sherri Martel and Chris Benoit are both dead. ?Perhaps bad karma coming to haunt him?

I remember seeing Eddie & Chris together driving a truck when wrestling came to town... now they're both dead. Shocking.

He might have killed his wife and kid. That's fucked.

This is pretty fucked up.  When WWE used to come through Central Illinois, a lot of the wrestlers used to stop in Champaign, because we have a couple of Gold's Gyms.  So, one morning, my wife and I were having breakfast at a Cracker Barrel, and I look over at the next table, and it's Chris Benoit and two other wrestlers.  It was an odd moment.

RIP.

but the people that knew the person such as other wrestlers say that he always had his sons in little suits and were very respectful and said he was a ver warm and loving family man. Chavo guero (sp?) said he didn't let many people in but he knew the man behind the scenes and from what they all said from the memorial tonight i don't think that would ever happen in a million years.


what odd behavior? I just heard that he called in and said his wife and kid where very sick and bleeding from the mouth and that he couldn't make it to the PPV.


i agree he's gonna feel like an ass for a long time now. I think this was a huge and humbling event for Vince



but the thing that really gets me is if your wife and kid were bleeding form the mouth wouldn't you take them to the hospitol? unless you were out of it too...........i just don't get it. BUT i'll never believe that he killed himself and his family :no: Never.

Yeah dude, but you realize all that stuff you're relying on is from a WWE broadcast.  As much as I'm sure they tried to be faithful and such, what they said on Raw shouldn't be relied upon as "fact" or anything of such.  Desperate times call for desperate measures and Vince McMahon deals in deception.  I'm not saying they intentionally tried to mislead viewers, but what they presented shouldn't be taken as actual fact.

go to the wresteling thread


simply unbe-fucking-lievable :no: :'(

Wow, I'm absolutely stunned! RIP Rabid Wolverine & Family :'(

I always liked Chris Benoit.

I'm not jumping to conclusions and NONE OF US know exactly what happened yet, so to speculate is pointless... but if he did kill his wife and kid, I hope he burns in hell. Like I said, "IF".

Otherwise, RIP Chris.

But as of right now, they think his family died during the weekend and that he died on Monday... I didn't know the guy personally and none of us did, so anything could have really happened.

actually they did the show before anything was mentioned about a murder / suicide. I watched the show for the first time in a while and all of the people that commented about benoit were friends of his for years. There was no "deception" involved. A lot of the stories they told last night were told before he died and weren't made up just to make him look better. I still think there is something more to the story but I could be wrong.

i'm not making any assumptions, but steroid use can screw up a person psychologically. wouldn't be surprised at all if this was a murder suicide. 

i actually thought roids might be involved in rod beck's death as well. that would be strange if two famous deaths within days of each other were attributable to roids.

Not to be an asshole, but I am very glad that they weren't found dead in Minneapolis. There's been too many wrestlers found dead here already.

i don't think Benoit used roids :no:

If he used roids then he would be TOTALLY RIPED like chiseled or perfect or have a musle every where. Now Benoit was a very strong guy non-the-less but not on roids. if ya know what i'm tryin' to say.

:peace:

Dude, look at his body

He and Eddie were both stick figures and all of a sudden got HUGE.

Both took steroids.

Steroids helped lead to Eddie's heart attack and its very possible he had a Rage and killed his wife and then his son


How do we know that he didnt come home and find them dead and then he was so distraught he killed himself?

thats the thing, WE dont know.........yet.

and eddie did take roids and that was the cause of his heart attack but if you recall after eddies death (i thought) WWE released a statment saying "Any wrestler cought using steroids will be suspended untill they are off of them" (not exact words but something like that)

then after that was said Chris Masters was gone for a long time because? HE WAS ON ROIDS. because when he came back to the WWE he lost like 50 lbs and was alot smaller with not as much musle tone as before when he was on the roids.

Now if Benoit was on roids they would have suspened him untill he was off of them so that no other wrestler would die prematurely.

now with that all said i'm ASSuMEing that they had to take a piss test ever month or so if that much is true.

The new roids rules only apply to younger wrestlers, if anyone. If Benoit had been taking roids, they wouldn't have stopped him. I personally think he did use them.

why would they only make that rule for "younger" wrestlers and not every one?

Because stars like Benoit bring in a lot more money and have a reputation to uphold. If he lost a lot of body weight people would talk more of his use, tainting his career and lowering Benoit t-shirt sales. It's possible he wouldn't have been able to perform at a level high enough toi attract viewers either. Wrestlers like Chris Masters are expendable. No sports business is willing to lose money for the health of its star athletes, especially not the WWE.

wow...just stunned

According to WWE they asked the police to investigate when people reported getting weird text messages from Chris.....

The guy must have just snapped

A real tragedy

thats true i guess. Good point


but this is just unbelievable  :nervous: :confused:

ATLANTA -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son. Steroid abuse has been linked to depression, paranoia, and aggressive behavior or angry outbursts known as "roid rage."

"We don't know yet. That's one of the things we'll be looking at," Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said, adding test results may not be back for weeks.

Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

Authorities were investigating the deaths at a secluded Fayette County home as a murder-suicide and were not seeking any suspects. The official who described the manner of death spoke on the condition of anonymity because the information was to be released at a news conference later Tuesday.

Benoit canceled a pay-per-view appearance at the "Vengeance" event in Houston because of "personal reasons" a day before the three were found dead.

World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning." The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas.

Investigators believe Benoit (pronounced ben-WAH) killed his wife, 43-year-old Nancy, and son Daniel during the weekend and then himself Monday. The bodies were found Monday afternoon in three separate rooms of the house, off a gravel road about two miles from the Whitewater Country Club.

Fayette County Coroner C.J. Mowell did not return calls seeking comment. The answering service for his funeral home said he was out of town.

Asked about the condition of the interior of the house, sheriff's Sgt. Keith Whiteside said investigators found "nothing really out of the ordinary." He said Benoit was found in the home's weight room, his wife in an office and the son in an upstairs bedroom.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

Burn in hell chris benoit

now c'mon man that aint right :no:

Chris Benoit definitely did steroids....there is nothing to think about....he was one of the most obvious steroid users in wrestling

professional wrestling is so fake

he killed his kid.. oh yeah he was a superstar wrestler.. let's forgive him ::)

I'm in no way saying that it was right, but there was something going on. He must have been strongly affected by something to do that. Some people are saying steroids. I'm still not making an excuse or anything but there's more to be revealed.





This story ain't.

affected in some way.. yeah i'm sure.. but that doesn't forgive him or gives back the life of his 7 year old

i guess i was wrong in my last post....



World Wrestling Entertainment will not distribute their three hour Chris Benoit tribute show that aired last night on the USA Network to their international affiliates for airing.

The Score in Canada will also not air the program in its regularly scheduled RAW replay slots.

While updating their coverage of the Benoit family tragedy, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution has posted a report that Nancy Benoit filed for divorce and an order of protection from Chris Benoit in May 2003. Nancy Benoit alleged in the divorce petition that Chris, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child." This prompted the judge to issue a restraining order on Chris Benoit from entering their family home. In August 2003, his wife Nancy requested that the petition be dismissed. The couple later reconciled and celebrated Benoit?s WWE World Heavyweight Championship win at WrestleMania 20 in the ring together.

In addition to the Shopzone merchandise, WWE has pulled their profile page on Chris Benoit from the company's website, not to mention that the front page isn't a Benoit tribute anymore as well. Pretty much all that is being showcased on the website regarding Chris Benoit is on the grim details of the Benoit family tragedy.

Last night they posted a bunch photos and videos of him, and made his section into kind of a tribute section. They also posted videos of the wrestlers giving their testimonials on Benoit, but those were quickly pulled after the grim details surrounding the Benoit family deaths surfaced. They also pulled the front page graphic of him from the Raw and ECW sections. The story of last night's Raw show still remains in the results section though.

TNA's website has removed their Chris Benoit death mention.

Text messages to friends ?distributing?; may have watched the Vengeance PPV from home on Sunday.

(taken from www.wrestlezone.com)

What a sad story? :no:.

I havnt even watched any of the wrestling since the Austin Era ended, and it still stings when you hear about the guys you used to watch and their untimely ends. This is really bad all the same, I dont know about getting all judgemental, whats it going to change? I just found out and I just feel quite sad.

What a bummer. :(

what he did to his kid and wife is unforgiveable BUT that doesn't mean that we should disrespect him. On any other day he wouldn't have done what he did, but theres a reason somewhere, he just didn't do this for the hell of it.

Whether it was the roids or alcohol or some thing else we can't ignore his legacy as a wrestler. I will still respect him for that. but murdering his family, i just can't comprehend its just so sudden. and i don't mean to defend a murderer but ...........damn you'd never expect this from some one like him.

i'm still lost i don't wanna trash the man but i don't wanna defend him any more either :nervous: :confused:

i think Gnrfan said it best in the Wrestleing thread

I think it's disgusting how people can be that obsessed with their idols that they think the way some people do..

RJ1221 on gnr2k said it best

man you and i are never gonna fully agree on this. Like i said in the other thread i think that the punishment should fit the crime but i and alot of other fans are just in shock. Its not that we are trying to defend a murderer its just that we didn't expect this i didn't his wife didn't i'm sure his son didn't.

He is a murderer but i don't wanna trash him nor do i want to defend him anymore.

R.I.P.
Benoit family
:peace:


now if you'll excuse me i'm going to go play kitten cannon. I don't wanna think about this any more

:peace:

punishment fit the crime yes.. but there aint punishment enough for killing your own son..

That's what hell is for.

turns out Mr. Tough Guy was truly just a big PUSSY.

and that's what he'll be remembered for.

100% pussy.

Yep. Nothing more, nothing less....maybe less.

'Cause I'm you would be so much more macho about it if you went thru what he was going thru.

Until it's determined that he did or didn't do it no one should fucking judge him.

remember, speak no ill of the dead.

Its pretty much been determined that he did it.  And just like I said last night, WWE is now going to distance themselves from him and ignor his legacy, as they should.  He is O.J. now.  He will never be mentioned among the greats.

oh right. my bad then. 

fuck it, i don't have an opinion on this.

Dumbest rule ever.

So, by your standards, if you die I can say whatever I want about you and tarnish your legacy? Sweet.

Sure go ahead, my legacy will surely be devastated by some nobody on a GNR message board who doesn't know anything about me.

That aside, it's not about saying whatever you like, it's a dumb rule that you can't criticise someone for what they did just because they are dead. The guy tied up his wife and strangled her, then waited a day before smothering his 7 year old son to death. Maybe we should have threads about the great things Hitler and Stalin did too.

maybe the title should be...RIP to the wife and child that Chris Benoit murdered

True but in fairness at the time it was made we didn't know that yet.

the rule should be "Dont put the dead on a pedastole"

how about wait for the final investigation report before laying judgement :-\

this is a sad fucked up situation either way you slice it

dude, It already been explained what has happened.

jeez, I need to watch my typos. 

y i know, i'm just still in shock is all....of all the wrestlers benoit would be one of the last i'd figure to do this

and the final police report isnt finished yet though....fuck first they blamedit on roid rage....now its not. more develpoments are bound to unfold

The roid rage thing is the media trying to blame the wrestling industry for this. All the sports websites are already posting thier articals about the tragedies of the wrestling biz.  "Real" sports media outlets have always looked down on pro-wrestling anyway.
   The only thing that is up in the air now is the  toxicology report, which Im sure  will come out saying that he had steriods in his body, but I dont know if that will do anything to prove or disprove the "roid rage" issue. 
  Bottom line, he is now a murderer and his legacy is over, done, and gone.  Regardless of his work-rate.
 

Can wrestlers really have legacys??  Thats like saying Luke Skywalker has a legacy or Roy Hobbs (the natural) has a legacy.

THEY ARE JUST CHARACTERS!!!!!!

Actors cant have legacys?  Pro wrestlers are not actors.  Not in the traditional sense anyways.  They arent fictional characters, either. They are a hybrid of actor/athlete. They sortof portray themselves a lot of the time.  Chris Beniot IS his real name. Its true that the story-lines are scripted, but thats only HALF of what wrestling is. The other half is the wrestling itself.  That is where Benoit shined, and what his legacy WOULD have been.  So, to answer your question, yes, wrestlers can have legacys.   

Wrestling is just fucking awful. Everyone is on steroids (including the fucking owner/commish) This is just another example of roided up wrestler dying way to soon. 50 fucking wrestlers have died before the age of 65 since 1985. 50!!!!!!!!!!

Just make this fucking fringe sport (if you can even call it that) just go away.

I feel so sorry for that idiots family

I wish you would go away. You're boring.


LOLZ, u betterz believds i!t!, fuck Marlon Brando, Orson Welles, Eastwoods and those other shits. Haha, good one man, right on the fucking money!, asl?

actors aren't playing themselves.  tom hanks has a legacy, not forest gump.  benoit might have been a good athlete, but what makes his "legacy" are his championships and title belts right?  the biggest loser in the history of wrestling was probably a good athlete as well (faking getting your ass kicked is probably just as hard as kicking someones ass) yet they don't have legacys.  its whoever has the best schtick and can get the crowd going, thus becoming the champ and getting all the spotlight.

sorry, i just don't see it. 

do you say clint eastwood has a legacy or dirty harry has a legacy?

see the difference?

They are not actors. Or Athletes. They are roided up douche bags running around in underwear. They make way too much money to entertain mouth breathing rednecks. And Vince McMann is the most greedy, heartless, juice monkey on the face of the earth

His championships and title belts dont make his legacy. ?His performances do. ?Just like Hanks' and Brando's performances make thier legacys. ?Chris Benoit, Bret Hart, Chris Jericho, etc., they arent fictional characters in the sense that you are talking about. ?Bottom line, I was talking about his "wrestling legacy." ?Benoit was a wrestler. ?Get it?

its spelled McMahon

i can see you are very knowledgable in the Wrestling Industry

alot of their moves are improvised they just have an amount of time and an outcome they have to respect...as for actors...some of them are better than others. but you cant be a wrestler without selling it both physically in the ring and by cutting promos on the mike


they dont get it thats why they are arguing with you, they dont care about wrestling yet are the first to know exactly whats going on ::)

But it is fictional.  Do you think that was his persona all the time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNeKVxMTp8

get 20 seconds in and listen to Benoit....is this really HIM or is he acting?  I can't stop laughing after watching that.  It so over the top - so funny. 

They ARE fictional characters, exaggerations of real people. if you think their wrestling personas are how they are outside of the ring you've been watching too much TV.  watch hogan in the ring and then watch Hogan Knows best - two different people.

I guess I see your point though - the lines between reality and fiction get blurred since his character and his real life self share the same name.  Hes an actor but instead of playing someone else, hes just playing an exaggeration.  Either way, didn't mean to upset anyone.   :peace:

wow are you telling me that tv characters are fictional? no shit....hmmm

these people have a hand in creating their own characters... some have more of themselves in their characters than others do... everybody knows its all staged, get a grip

Dude, dont talk to me like Im 8. ?Ive already made my point. ?You refuse to acknowledge it because of your narrow view of wrestling. ?Whatever. ?I know its fictional, but Chris Beniot was a REAL person. ?He really wrestled, and left behind a REAL legacy. ?Or would have.

He didn't really wrestle... He acted, but acted on the level of a bad Hollywood Stuntman. Yes they are athletic, but they aren't competing in a sport. I think it is a reach to even use the term "Sports Entertainment".

Sure he left a legacy, but not as a wrestler, as a character actor. Calling these people "Wrestlers" is a slap in the face of "true" wrestlers who are competeing at the collegete and international levels... as well as former ameture wrestlers who are now competeing in Mixed Martial Arts...

Look I understand that what they are doing is tough on their bodies, but no more so than the Hollywood stunt men that they should be more closely compaired to as opposed to Athletes. Not to mention any credibility they may have is instantly lost due to the fact that they are not sanctioned by any sort of governing body that monitors for drug use like Boxing or MMA (sure boxing is corrupt, but there isn;t the huge steroid problem)

Here we go with this old arguement again... When I say "wrestle" Im talking about the "professional" kind, ok?  Yes, I know its not "real."  That doesnt matter.  Its a skill beyond being a stuntman.  Stuntmen arent performers. Stuntmen dont have to make other stuntmen look good.  Its all a pointless arguement anyway.  Especially with the topic that we are on.  Pro wrestlers are NOT actors.  They are NOT stuntmen.  They are PRO WRESTLERS.  That is thier label.

You what? Don't get yourself in a twist now (though maybe it's merely a problem with the definition!):


Chris Benoit wrestled, ergo Chris Benoit was a wrestler.

Clint Eastwood acted (... s, now and again...), ergo Clint Eastwood is an actor.

'Can actors really have lagacys!'

Do you get it now, you "liberal" jackass*? Wrestlers aren't merely 'actors.' They're athletes. Get with the distinction, and quit with your "Dirty Harry" bullshit. Did Clint Eastwood really do... Err... All of that Dirty Harry stuff? No, sir, he did not. Did Chris Benoit perform, do his classic ol' headbutt and the like in front of thousands? You better believe he did.

* I kid!, I kid!, I rib!, I rib!

Blow me

just kidding, just kidding

What I'm saying is.. due to this tragedy (and even before it) he should not be revered as a Sports Legend...

Also how many black marks does this "Sport" have to have against it before something is done to gain controll of it. How many of these "Pro Wrestlers" have to die young of Heart Attacks, Accidental OD's, and Suicides? If you seperate this profession from the rest of society the percentage of them that meet these untimely deaths are stagering. It's not a coincidence that they are flooding their body's with "foreign" hormones and are suffering higher than normal rates of depresion and mental illness as well as vascular and nervous system degeneration.

Thinking back, my parent should have lost custody of me in the 80's for buying me the Hulk Hogan gym set (with tear away Tank Top and 5 pound Dumb Bells) and my Hulk Hogan vitamins... They might as well have gone to the local farm supply store and bought me a box of bovine growth hormone and a package of needles, the message wouldn't have been much different.

I have never called pro wrestling a "sport" Or Benoit a sports legend.  I also know full well about all the "black marks" that pro wrestling has.  The deaths in recent years are more a result of pain meds than steroids.  But its all a moot point anyways.  Drugs are bad. Steroids are bad. People do them anyways.  Athletes of ALL "sports" do them.  Its just easy to bash pro wrestling.  Fish in a barrel.

"Mmm Kay?"

hahah, sorry, couldn't resist.  :rofl:

for the record, I like wresting.  Was a huge fan in the 80s and early-mid 90s I watched it more often than not.  I just don't take it that seriously.

First off, by hanging on to the label "Pro Wrestling" you are insinuating that what they are doing is a professional version of what collegate wrestlers do... you could also say that you are insinuating they are professional athletes (which would indicate they participate in a sport (which they don't)) Chris Benoit is (was) as much a wrestler as Charlie Sheen is a profesional Pitcher (Major League 1 and 2)

Yes athletes of all sports do steroids... but at a much much smaller percentage, and while the programs are a joke, the other sports test for them and hand out punishment for usage (who was the last wrestler sat down for Steroid use??(honest question, I dont know the answer))... Yes, alot of the OD's are from ?pain med's, but they tend to develop addictions to pain meds based on the adication that is formed by their dependency on steriods that transfres to another substance and the pain associated with joint injury's caused by the extra bulk that their body was not designed to carry. Also most of them develop severe mental issues from the hormone imbalances that make them more likely to commit suicide.

^
good reasons for not wrestling then? ???

Actually Dirty Harry left quite a legacy.

Do you know how many people quote this line religiously??

"But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"

don't disrespect his son by saying RIP chris benoit :no:

Good God...

Why are wrestling fans portrayed as rednecks all the time??

Yeah no shit... They go to Mexcio, Japan, Africa, god knows where else... The arenas must be filled with rednecks there to  ::)

thing is.. now that he killed himself, some fans sees him as a saint.. i would've wanted him to be alive so more people would understand.. people sees it as a tragedy that 3 people in a family has died.. the tragedy and truth is that a man killed his wife and son then cowardly took his own life and escape

Title changed. And I for one do think that what he did was a bitch move.

One thing to off himself, another to kill his wife and child.

Exactly why I think that he's a bitch now. Kill yourself. But at least spare your 7 tear old kid n' your wife.

I think Chris Benoit falls under the category of family annihilator:

 According to Professor Jack Levin, a leading expert from North-Eastern University in Boston, Massachusetts, the most significant factors are family break-up, male sexual jealousy, a need to be in control and extreme possessiveness.

'The profile of a family annihilator is a middle-aged man, a good provider who would appear to neighbours to be a dedicated husband and a devoted father,' Levin said. 'He quite often tends to be quite isolated. He is often profoundly dedicated to his family, but has few friends of his own or a support system out with the family. He will have suffered some prolonged frustration and feelings of inadequacy, but then suffers some catastrophic loss. It is usually financial or the loss of a relationship. He doesn't hate his children, but he often hates his wife and blames her for his miserable life. He feels an overwhelming sense of his own powerlessness. He wants to execute revenge and the motive is almost always to "get even".'

Research from the States shows that family annihilators rarely have a prior criminal record. However, many experts believe there is often a prior pattern of domestic abuse. A report published two years ago in Britain by Women's Aid, called Twenty-nine child homicides, found that, out of 13 families studied, domestic violence was a feature in 11. In one of the other two cases, the mother spoke of her ex-partner's obsessively controlling behaviour.

'To the outside world, these crimes seem to come out of nowhere,' continued Levin. 'The perpetrators have not previously been involved in criminal behaviour. Nor do they tend to be on drugs or drinking heavily when they commit the crime. However, if psychologists had seen them in advance, they would have spotted the warning signs. They would have noticed how the person reacted to things not going his way - the irrational rage and the blaming of others. These people often also regard their partner and children as their own possessions.'

In the majority of cases, if the perpetrator fails in his own suicide, as in the Hogan and Hall cases, they almost always plead some form of insanity.

But Levin rejected this: 'These are executions. They are never spontaneous. They are well planned and selective. They are not carried out in the heat of the moment or in a fit of rage. They are very methodical and it is often planned out for a long time. There are certain people the killer blames for his problems. If a friend came along, he wouldn't kill him or her. He kills his children to get even with his wife because he blames her and he hates her. The killer feels he has lost control. Annihilating his family is a way of regaining control. It is a methodical, selective murder by a rational, loving father. That's why it is so terrifying.'

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when people dont call wwe wrestling a "sport" it confuses the hell out of me... wwe is entertainment.....sports such as basketball, baseball and football are also ENTERTAINMENT....people make such a big deal about sports as if its the end all of everything...but in reality it is a bunch of guys being paid obscene amounts of money to play a CHILDS game.....WWE wrestlers have just as much if not more athleticism as most of the guys in professional sports but because their matches are predetermined it takes away from what they do in the ring??  with that being said...chris benoit is a bitch.....

Well, part of the excitement is not knowing who's gonna win...

So yes, it is entertainment, but I'd hardly call it sport. Mainly because that word is associated with, you know, competition.

ye gods people talking about whether wrestling is fake - well duh?! ::)

ugh here we go.....

I used to watch wrestling, but dont anymore.. So in no way am i bias one way or the other...

Yes wresting is SCRIPTED.... To say its fake is basically retarded... These guys get REAL injuries, and the high flyers put them selves in danger with their stunts... Professional athletes have been quoted as saying wrestling is as hard or HARDER than the sport they've played...

Where?

Exactly.

There are people who think that all wrestling fans are idiots who believe that everything they're watching is real. They enjoy it for the entertainment. And there's lots of storylines, matches etc. that many fans don't like. It's not like we sit there and go "Wow, this is awesome" no matter what's going on.

you could say that wrestling is like a soap opera kinda like the bold and the beatuful and days of our lives and such ;)

works for me  ;D

Exactly... they are actors, granted actors that are in great shape, but actors none the less. Charlie Sheen isn't a profesional athlete because he played Ricky Vaughn, Mark Wallbergh isn't an athlete because he played an Eagles D-Back... just the same as Edward Leslie isn't an athlete just because he played Brutus Beefcake.

In most cases Wrestlers are where they are because they are failed athletes. In rare cases, they are there because until the explosion of MMA there wasn't a professional arena for amature wrestlers and if they had an bad acting skills they could translate it into a better paycheck than Landscaping or Plumbing. Now that they have something like the UFC to turn to, you aren't going to see Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar jump to the WWE, they are going to further their "True" pro career by jumping into MMA.

this guy tortured his wife and son. imagine for a second being suffocated.

and apparrently, he forced his son to take steroids. sick fuck.

from the denver post....

He said Benoit's 43-year-old wife was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, and her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle. Daniel was probably killed late Saturday or early Sunday, and his body was found in his bed, the district attorney said.

Benoit, 40, apparently hanged himself hours later, Ballard said.

His body was found in a downstairs weight room hanging from the pulley of a piece of exercise equipment.

The prosecutor said it appeared the wrestler remained in the house for up to a day with the bodies.

The boy had old needle marks in his arms, Ballard said. He said he had been told the parents considered him undersized and had given him growth hormones.

"The boy was very small, even dwarfed," Ballard said.

Wow, that is seriously fucked up.

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=sports&id=5427627

Benoit received drug deliveries from a Florida business that sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet, according to the Albany County, N.Y., District Attorney's Office, which is investigating the business, MedXLife.com.

Six people, including two of the pharmacy's owners, have pleaded guilty in the investigation, and 20 more have been arrested, including doctors and pharmacists.

Sounds like a legit prescription, maybe the WWE should re-think their policy. In the NFL a banned substance is a banned substance, prescription or not. Infact there was a case a few years ago where a former NFL player needed to take steriods to comabt affects of post concusion syndrom and was told he would not be able to continue playing with them in his system.

Vince is going to be on NBC tomorrow night with Diane Sawyer to discuss Benoit and the steroid talk.  Should be a decent interview.

I hate how this has turned into steroid bullshit.


Hulk Hogan took steroids his whole career and didnt kill his family.


Steroid rages are instant and he would've killed his wife, son and himself in the same time frame and with roid rages he would've beat them to death moreso than the way he killed them.

Sure they could've led to depression in him etc but this seems like something that had been brewing in him for a long time.

I don't care what made him do it.. i care of what he did do and because of what he did he should be one of the most hated wrestlers ever.. but no he killed himself and is also dead, let's feel sorry for him and remember his legacy :puke:

The problem is the hormone changes can affect everyone differently, look what pregnancy can do to some women... with most they get quick mood swings (almost like roid rage it's an instant snap) an some are thrown into deep depression (like the mother from Texas that killed her kids).
That flood of hormones durring and following pregnancy is very similar to what these "wrestlers" are doing to their body. Hogan was able to cycle on and off with no 'major' issues... (I still think a portion of their injurys have to be blamed on stedoids and not their job, look at Baseball Players that are fighting injury's that never existed at this rate in their sport)

It's possible that Benoit had a predisposition for mental illness, if that is the cas that steroids were a ticking timebomb. This was always going to happen it was just a matter of how soon.

I only saw 1 newspaper say report this so far, i think it was the New York Post who said that his demotion last week to ECW also could have triggered this.  Being demoted to ECW is pretty much like being told your career is over....That is no excuse...this guy was a sick fuck.....

Well some people do want to find out the reasoning behind it.


Complete bullshit article. If anything the switch to ECW was a step up because he was going to be considered a brand leader.

I know I do. I want to know why someone who seemed so normal would do something like this.

that's ok.. some people wanna know that.. all i need to know is that he did it.. there's no reason to kill your son.. i don't say you say that but yeah.. i'm thinking about start to play an old wrestling game on nintendo 64 and smack the shit out of him ;)

Apparantly, the doctor who prescribed Benoit all those roids has been arrested....

Dont agree

ECW is definitely a demotion


Smaller payouts, Less PPV opportunities even with the tri brand PPV's back. Hell he already hadn't been used all that much. Remember he went bout 3 weeks without even wrestling on SD

So to then be shipped to ECW which sucks, yes its a demotion.

Being a midcarder on SD is better than a high Card on ECW.

Look at how they fed their ECW champ to Vince McMahon and let Vince hold the belt for 2 months then have Johnny Nitro get bitchsmacked by Cena.