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Guns N' Roses => Dead Horse => Topic started by: growler on June 23, 2007, 03:20:42 AM



Title: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: growler on June 23, 2007, 03:20:42 AM
First off I know long time members, moderators and you Jarmo are very sensitive to those who criticize axl, the new GNR, and especially axl.. so the last thing I want to do is piss you all off but...As a TRUE GNR fan I am disappointed for the folks who live on the west coast of the great United States of America.  For GNR to cancel their shows not only in 02 but in 06 also must be a heartbreaker for them.  Their reason for canceling the 2002 show seemed obsured; the reason for canceling the 06 shows seemed legit.  They were going to finish Chinese democracy, get the new band members involved in the album and resume touring after the album was released.  Now I am not complaining that they are kicking ass once again all over the globe....but WHY DIDNT THEY PLAY THE SHOWS OUT WEST IN 06 THAT THEY COMMITED TO, AN RENIGED ON FOR BULLSHIT REASONS.  Here they are now 8 months later with no new album playing the same set list since 2002.  Don?t get me wrong, it?s great that they are tearing up half the world now, but why didn?t they make good on there COMMITMENT to play the west coast in 2002 and especially 2006.  IF GNR AND AXL MAKE A COMMITMENT TO PLAY SOMEWHERE THEY DO OWE THE FANS THAT MUCH, sorry Jarmo for having an opinion, ban be now.


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: cfcsfc on June 23, 2007, 03:24:48 AM
While you have a good point about doing make-up shows for the west coast people who's shows were cancelled, if they were to do that people would expect a full NA tour- ie. the east coast people would want shows too.
And you never know, they might announce a few shows there a bit later.
I was lucky, I was visiting the west coast then and was planning to go to the Reno show!


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: gnr157 on June 23, 2007, 04:22:22 AM
As a west coaster I would say that we have had a decent amount of shows, not to mention a majority of small venue shows over the past several years.  5 vegas shows plus 2 SF shows.  Plus the bigger LA shows.  While expensive, especially the Vegas gigs, there has been ample opportunity to see GNR. 


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: suicide on June 23, 2007, 05:44:20 AM
As a west coaster I would say that we have had a decent amount of shows, not to mention a majority of small venue shows over the past several years.? 5 vegas shows plus 2 SF shows.? Plus the bigger LA shows.? While expensive, especially the Vegas gigs, there has been ample opportunity to see GNR.?
That's not really true now is it? I'm sure you were able to see GN'R several times on the 2006 tour, but not everyone can see them more than once on their tour. So I guess it's only fair for the people who were to attend a cancelled show to get another chance.
And we still don't know why the 2006 tour had to end so suddenly. What was the rush back then? Why did they have to get back to finish Chinese Democracy and then why isn't the album out yet?


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: jarmo on June 23, 2007, 07:12:53 AM
FYI: Axl doesn't cancel shows for bullshit reasons.

If a show is unfortunately canceled, there's a good reason for it.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on June 23, 2007, 09:54:17 PM
FYI: Axl doesn't cancel shows for bullshit reasons.

If a show is unfortunately canceled, there's a good reason for it.




/jarmo

:rofl:

i don't think that every show cancelled was cancelled for good reason, but some did have very good reason so........i'll agree : ok:..........................somewhat


:peace:


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: jarmo on June 25, 2007, 09:18:53 AM
What you think is not always based on facts.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on June 25, 2007, 01:13:47 PM
i'm not saying that there was no reason for any of them to be cancelled but some had nothing to be cancelled for. Now i can't name any mainly cause i can't remember them, BUT i do remember hearing from Dee Snider himself that a concert promoter or someone like that put a gun to Axls head to get him on stage. Now i only heard that on THE HOUSE OF HAIR and no where else but Dee has some conections he's like a human version of Blabbermouth.net.

and what about holding up a concert for a lamb dinner?

anyway i'm done arguing at least they're touring again and CHINESE DEMOCRACY is around the corner : ok:


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: chineseblues on June 26, 2007, 09:06:17 PM
i'm not saying that there was no reason for any of them to be cancelled but some had nothing to be cancelled for. Now i can't name any mainly cause i can't remember them, BUT i do remember hearing from Dee Snider himself that a concert promoter or someone like that put a gun to Axls head to get him on stage. Now i only heard that on THE HOUSE OF HAIR and no where else but Dee has some conections he's like a human version of Blabbermouth.net.

and what about holding up a concert for a lamb dinner?

anyway i'm done arguing at least they're touring again and CHINESE DEMOCRACY is around the corner : ok:

Please tell me you're joking? If you actually believe this crap is true then god help you man! That is such bullshit its not even funny.


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: Krispy Kreme on June 26, 2007, 09:35:19 PM
Everything happens  for a reason. Concert  tours  do not get  canceled  for no  reason. Just because we don't know the reason  does not mean that there was none.


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: stolat on June 26, 2007, 09:51:50 PM
Has this thread replaced "I'm not a whinger but......"?  ;)


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on June 26, 2007, 11:27:27 PM
i'm not saying that there was no reason for any of them to be cancelled but some had nothing to be cancelled for. Now i can't name any mainly cause i can't remember them, BUT i do remember hearing from Dee Snider himself that a concert promoter or someone like that put a gun to Axls head to get him on stage. Now i only heard that on THE HOUSE OF HAIR and no where else but Dee has some conections he's like a human version of Blabbermouth.net.

and what about holding up a concert for a lamb dinner?

anyway i'm done arguing at least they're touring again and CHINESE DEMOCRACY is around the corner : ok:

Please tell me you're joking? If you actually believe this crap is true then god help you man! That is such bullshit its not even funny.

its just what i heard man, i don't think its bullshit nor do i fully believe it because if some one woulda put a gun to Axls head then i think that little tidbit of info would be every where. At that time

and the lamb dinner thing was true (or so i thought) It was on Blabbermouth and every other basher site on the net. plus when i said it Jarmo didn't correct me and if i'm wrong he would've corrected me by now. ;)


:peace:


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: kimberly on June 27, 2007, 04:45:07 AM
What's the problem anyway, they barely cancelled any shows in 2006 (especially in comparisement with 2002) if you wanted to see GNR THAT badly, you might've aswell drove to another place in North America where they did do shows.

And don't believe everything Dee Snider (out of all people) has to say, he's a walking gossip machine.


Title: Re: Not to be an asshole but....
Post by: Krispy Kreme on June 28, 2007, 09:29:06 PM
That's what  he does. At least someone  is gossiping.