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When did the Guitar Hero series become a phenomenon?!?

The series has announced it will release Guitar Hero III, the fifth version of the guitar jamming game, in early 2008. The soundtrack will include a wide variety of material, including tracks by Queens of the Stone Age and (possibly) new Guns 'N Roses. As of now though, the only tracks confirmed for the game are below.

Also, the "guitar" for the third edition will be a wireless Les Paul.........

GUITAR HERO III INITIAL TRACKLISTING
"Barracuda" - Heart
"Cherub Rock" - Smashing Pumpkins
"Cult of Personality" - Living Colour
"Even Flow" - Pearl Jam
"Knights of Cydonia" - Muse
"Lay Down" - Priestess
"The Metal" - Tenacious D
"My Name Is Jonas" - Weezer
"Paint It, Black" - The Rolling Stones
"Rock and Roll All Nite" - Kiss
"Sabotage" - Beastie Boys
"School's Out" - Alice Cooper
"Slow Ride" - Foghat




http://productshopnyc.com/htdocs/2007/06/guitar_hero_third_edition_w_we.html

That would be really really cool.  Too bad it probably won't happen.  But here's to wishful thinking.

ya know i thought about the same thing the other day while watching my friend play. He was playing SCOM and is taking a real interest in old 80s bands. And then he heard about the leaks and i thought that was cool cause hes one of those assholes that says "awwh CD will never come out" but what ever and i said "ya know man they should have New G'n'R on there he then said "i couldn't wait to play them" :smoking:

i think they should have either TWAT, CHINESE DEMOCRACY(the song), or Rhiad and the beduoins ;D

i'd deffinatly but it : ok:




btw will it be for PS2 or PS3?
:peace:

i will buy whatever system it will be released on if the game does have a new gnr tune

It will be released for both plataforms...

And yes, it'd be COOL AS HELL to play a new gn'r tune on this game...but that's a dream far from become true  :'(

Guys! I know you are getting excited about the new stuff, going by the concert reviews and all - but you are talking about the future ?:P - one bit of advice:

"Confine yourself to the present" - Marcus Aurelis

"The only way to deal with the future, is to function efficiently in the Now"!

Careful....

I'm guessing the album's slated for September or early fall.

Would it still be "new" by the time the game is gonna be released?  :P

Anyways, I guess it should be quite hard to play any new GNR song with Bucket (tho not as much as Jordan was in GH2)...

The game will be worth it for Even Flow alone.

dont forget that VR is going to have SBQM or Get out the door on Guitar Hero 3. and i know Garry is looking forward to playing those songs  :hihi:

I'm warming up my little fingers as we speak.  :hihi:

As a little bit of a sidenote:

Did you guys hear that Slash is a playable character in Guitar Hero III? There are also two Velvet Revolver songs that will be playable. Slash said it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnh2JtkEKKY&mode=related&search=

For those that don't feel like watching he says She Builds Quick Machines and Get Out the Door.

I think thats why the guitar is a Les Paul Standard.

A little more on topic could you all imagine how nice it would be to play TWAT or The Blues on Guitar Hero III.

I love Guitar Hero. Currently trying to 5 star the tracks on hard. Fucking tuff. Anyway this would be damn cool if true. GH3 is so mine regardless. Just not sure whether I will get the Wii version (which will have some sweet new gameplay the others won't have) or the 360 one. Can't wait.

this is good news, because if they are thinking about giving guitar hero III a new GNR song, then the record must be close

Just like all those soundtracks that were going to have a new song on them?

They don't use the original vocals for the songs though, do they?? I know Sweet Child O' Mine on GH II doesn't have Axl singing... or am I smoking something??

Actually, due to the popularity of GH II, some record labels are allowing the publishing company to use the original tracks. By the way, I'm guessing this is to be released on PS3 and XBOX 360. By the 5th version, they mean - Guitar Hero I, Guitar Hero II (PS2), Guitar Hero II (Xbox 360), and the new PS2 80's think coming out in July - right?

The 80's version comes out soon, and the new version with the VR songs will be out in the fall for PS2, 360, and Wii.

TWAT and Better would be awesome!

I love TWAT :drool: :hihi:


i don't have either GH games :P i hardly play any thing any more :(

of all the new tracks that we have heard Better would be the funnest to play on Guitar Hero IMO.

I agree.

Also, that'd be a great way to get along of young videogamers into the new material also.

Just spoke with a bud of mine named Dan that works at Activision/Neversoft (Activision is the publisher for GH3).  He said "No chance as of right now", and that he "Wouldn't wait for it."  I then asked him about AC/DC and he told me "just wait and see..You'll be pleased."

Doesn't indicate that there won't be any developments, as the game is due early '08, but, at least for the moment, this doesn't appear to be the case. 

Just because he works for them, doesn't mean he knows anything... Anyway, Imo, this would be the perfect promotion for the new album. LOTs and LOTs of people play Guitar Hero.

not sure where you got your info ,but Guitar Hero III will be out in October of this year!

Rock Band will be out this fall from former Guitar Hero developer Harmonix, who have gone their own way...The Guitar Hero 80's add-on is their last game under their current contract.  The new "Rock Band" game will be published by EA...He just said it GH 3 "Might slip to 'very early 08.  Nothing definitive yet."

Take it, leave it, ignore it...Whatever suits ya...Just  though I'd give you what I heard...And Hunger, "Just because he works for them doesn't mean he knows anything" is a bit ridiculous.  I know you want to believe, but if he worked for them and DIDN'T know anything, I'd be a bit concerned for his livelihood.  He's a life-long GNR fan as well..You respond as if I'm hoping he is, in fact, correct.  Hell, no one here is hoping he's mistaken as much as I am.

I highly doubt the game will slip past X-mas sales season. I'm not saying I buy the fact that Guns will have a new song in it, but every regular guitar hero game has come out in the fall.

Personally, I agree w/ you...I don't think they'll miss out on "black Friday."  Not to mention the fact that Activision is feeling a great deal of internal pressure to trump the Harmonix release of "Rock Band."  There's no way they'll give a 2-3 month sales head start to the team that's marketing the game as the next evolution brought to you by the "True creators" of the Guitar Hero franchise.

I've never played guitar hero...but I'd love to see this happen.

They are gonna have all these CLASSIC songs, and then a NEW Guns N' Roses song?  I doubt it.  It'll probably just be something from Appetite.  I just don't think a NEW GN'R song would fit the GH theme.

I think i remeber slash saying at an interview in Toronto few months back, that VR will have a couple new songs on it.

I love it how some of you people are all "not a chance" and "no way"


why wouldn't the video game contain a new gnr tune ?

what do guns n' roses or the makers of GH III have to loose ?


they would be dumbasses if they didn't put a new gnr song in the game (but then again, gnr have done alot of things that certanly have been questionable these past 6 years  :-\)

GH3 will be relased on the the Wii, DS, 360, and the PS3. And it will definitely be out this fall. Rock Band is on the Wii, 360, and the PS3.

GH3 on DS?

that actually presents an awesome idea- Guitar Hero on PSP with a mini guitar  :hihi:

I'd like to see TWAT end up on GH3 (even though I know it won't).

Wouldn't mind taking a stab at the TWAT outro.

No chance.

Edit: Maybe they got the name "Guns N' Roses" mixed up with new "Buckethead".

Without meaning to sound too negative...this is about as likely as a meteorite hitting Earth tomorrow.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 'Classic' GN'R tune on the game, e.g. Welcome to the Jungle, Paradise City, but there is no chance of seeing a new GN'R song on this game.

Of all the ways to release new songs amid the rumours we've heard over the years, this seems to be the most unlikely of them all.

I want to see paradise city.  What does the guy at neversoft/activision say about any guns song period rather that just a new one?

Why? We know Axl loves video games (he was in GTA SA after all), so I see absolutely no reason why he wouldn't let them use a new guns song in the game.

Paradise City would be awsome, the guitar would be fun as hell to rock out on.

If they use a new gnr tune it would be whatever the new single is going to be. Though TWAT would be awesome because it has an awesome solo.

Seeing as SCOM has been on GH2 (or whatever, I dunno much about the game) I wouldn't be surprised that by new they meant new to the game as in paradise city perhaps. as in "You've had a GnR track before, here's a new one"

If they did give permission, I recommend one that's new, create a demand from a different customer base. For me IRS would be the one I'd let 'em have (IF the leak version of CD is the case, then that one instead)

Paradise City would be a great closer, like Free Bird on GH2.  That would make for a great final encore song.

yea i pretty much thought i was done with playing video games too. tried my cousin's guitar hero game and went out to buy it the next day. tons of fun to play but i have to hold my hand kind of weird cause of how small the guitar is which was making it cramp up and hurt when i played a real guitar, needless to say i cut back on the video game big time.

WTTJ from GH3...thanks to Ridin' the Nightrain...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw4vgOmZz40

Looks like Welcome to The Jungle is on it so that is cool as for the VR songs it was said at first the Quick Machines and Get Out the Door were on there but now i see a new list that has Slither and Dirty Little Thing ??? So not sure what VR songs are there. As for the songs apparently the majority of the songs will have the original track so that is cool. I am new to the Guitar Hero thing i just bought it for my son for his birthday and i hate to admit it but it is addicting. I just cant figure out how to play bass or rhthym, any help ???

Here's the final track list:

1. Starting Out Small

    * "Slow Ride" ? Foghat
    * "Talk Dirty to Me" ? Poison
    * "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" ? Pat Benatar
    * "Story of My Life" ? Social Distortion
    * Encore: "Rock and Roll All Nite" ? Kiss
    * Co-op: "Sabotage" ? Beastie Boys


2. Your First Real Gig

    * "Mississippi Queen" ? Mountain
    * "School's Out" ? Alice Cooper
    * "Sunshine of Your Love" ? Cream
    * "Barracuda" ? Heart
    * Guitar Battle vs. Tom Morello
    * Encore: "Bulls on Parade" ? Rage Against the Machine
    * Co-op: "Reptilia" ? The Strokes


3. Making The Video

    * "When You Were Young" ? The Killers
    * "Miss Murder" ? AFI
    * "The Seeker" ? The Who
    * "Lay Down" ? Priestess
    * Encore: "Paint It, Black" ? The Rolling Stones
    * Co-op: "Suck My Kiss" ? Red Hot Chili Peppers


4. European Invasion

    * "Paranoid" ? Black Sabbath
    * "Anarchy in the U.K." ? Sex Pistols
    * "Kool Thing" ? Sonic Youth
    * "My Name Is Jonas" ? Weezer
    * Encore: "Even Flow" ? Pearl Jam
    * Co-op: "Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll" ? Blue ?yster Cult


5. Bighouse Blues

    * "Holiday in Cambodia" ? Dead Kennedys
    * "Rock You Like a Hurricane" ? Scorpions
    * "Same Old Song and Dance" ? Aerosmith
    * "La Grange" ? ZZ Top
    * Guitar Battle vs. Slash
    * Encore: "Welcome to the Jungle" ? Guns N' Roses
    * Co-op: "Helicopter" ? Bloc Party


6. The Hottest Band On Earth

    * "Black Magic Woman" ? Santana
    * "Cherub Rock" ? The Smashing Pumpkins
    * "Black Sunshine" ? White Zombie
    * "The Metal" ? Tenacious D
    * Encore: "Pride and Joy" ? Stevie Ray Vaughan
    * Co-op: "Monsters" ? Matchbook Romance


7. Live In Japan

    * "Before I Forget" ? Slipknot
    * "Stricken" ? Disturbed
    * "3's & 7's" ? Queens of the Stone Age
    * "Knights of Cydonia" ? Muse
    * Encore: "Cult of Personality" ? Living Colour


8. Battle For Your Soul

    * "Raining Blood" ? Slayer
    * "Cliffs of Dover" ? Eric Johnson
    * "The Number of the Beast" ? Iron Maiden
    * "One" ? Metallica
    * Guitar Battle vs. Lou
    * Encore: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" ? Charlie Daniels Band


Bonus Tracks

    * "Avalancha" ? H?roes del Silencio
    * "Can't Be Saved" ? Senses Fail
    * "Closer" ? Lacuna Coil
    * "Don't Hold Back" ? The Sleeping
    * "Down n' Dirty" ? LA Slum Lords
    * "F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X." ? The Fall of Troy
    * "Generation Rock" ? Revolverheld
    * "Go That Far" - Bret Michaels Band
    * "Hier Kommt Alex" ? Die Toten Hosen
    * "I'm in the Band" ? The Hellacopters
    * "Impulse" ? An Endless Sporadic
    * "In Love" ? Scouts of St. Sebastian
    * "In the Belly of a Shark" ? Gallows
    * "Mauvais Gar?on" ? Naast
    * "Metal Heavy Lady" ? Lions
    * "Minus Celsius" ? Backyard Babies
    * "My Curse" ? Killswitch Engage
    * "Nothing for Me Here" ? Dope
    * "Prayer of the Refugee" ? Rise Against
    * "Radio Song" ? Superbus
    * "Ruby" ? Kaiser Chiefs
    * "She Bangs the Drums" ? The Stone Roses
    * "Take This Life" ? In Flames
    * "The Way It Ends" ? Prototype
    * "Through the Fire and Flames" ? DragonForce


Slither is on the GHIII Soundtrack CD.  But I haven't seen it listed (yet!) in the game..but there are reports there are some more hidden tacks/bonus tracks/exclusive hidden characters that are locked away. 

Info courtesy of:

http://www.theguitarheroes.com/

which is where I found it.

cant wait!!!

looks cool! glad I got myself a Wii recently! ;-)

I'm happy that I can play it on my PS2.  Does anyone know if the guitar comes with the game? 

Yes, but it will cost more than just the game itself.

I just want the game, I have my SG from GH2 and I don't want another plastic guitar!  :hihi:

I thought Slash said there will be a VR song in the game?


 :peace:

Yep, "She Builds Quick Machines".

"Get Out The Door" is also rumoured to appear as a bonus track, and Slash will be featured as a character in the actual game.

I can't wait to get the thing!

I just bought the game today, but haven't got to "Bighouse Blues" yet though...

Interesting....it's not SUPPOSED to come out til midnight, Saturday.  Where'd you get it? I'd love to find someone to sell it to me early!

Yes, the VR songs were originally confirmed for the game.

But nobody who has seen the complete game track listing (as in, has played it all the way through) has found them yet.  Either they're not there, they're hidden REALLY well, or they're going to be part of a Downloadable Content pack available at, or shortly after, release.

Joe Perry is doing a guitar hero 3 signing on sunday at the gamestop at broadway and 33rd in manhattan :beer:

when is this, Sunday Oct 28??

yup

Well, you can find it on any torrent server...but I went to a place here in Rio de Janeiro to buy an "alternative" version of Pro Evolution Soccer 2008(it's alternative because the original stuff is WAY too expansive around here...), and while I was there I saw the cover of GHIII and that was it, last thing I know I was playing it in my house! ;D

It's SO COOL to play with Slash!!!!!!! :beer: :beer: :beer:

Oh, and the Velvet Revolver songs, I don't know, they're not on the tracklist, but I think they will be available to purchase/download/whatever for PS3

Gotcha!  I think, in countries outside of the span of "influence" of the game companies...they might not be as strict about "street dates".  Around the states, stores can get fined for breaking street dates....so you have to depend on either people screwing up OR bribery.  Neither tends to work often or well, so you just wait.

Torrents don't help, really, unless you've got a modded pS2, xbox360, or ps3 (and the ps3 not so much because the old ps2 guitar controllers work like shit....hammer ons and pull offs don't work....on the system).  I don't mod my consoles, so I guess I'm stuck waiting.

Glad you're playing early!  I'll be playing at about 12:15 AM Sunday morning (picking it up at midnight) on my PS3 (picked up the 80 gb version, with motorstorm, "used" from a friend who wanted an Xbox 360 insead...I bought him the 360 and got the ps3).

I've never played Guitar Hero in my life...but after buying the Wii last April, I've been dying for it to come out. Finally picked it up Sunday and tricked out my guitar using a sticker that I've had for MANY, MANY years, but NEVER used before. What do you think?!

(http://i22.tinypic.com/6jdqx1.jpg)

Not to worry...Axl's skull is up on the neck (not shown) along with the 'bullet logo' sticker that came with the guitar/game.

LOVE IT!

Because there are removeable faceplates, I'm HOPING someone does a GnR one to sell. 

The decals that came with my PS3 version has an old GnR lgog decal on the sheet....I'm debating putting it on the black Les Paul faceplate it came with, but am holding off until I see if I can find a "real" GnR designed faceplate.

I'd buy one like yours in a heartbeat if there was a PS3 version.

Heck, if I could find the cross logo in high enough resolution...I'd just make my own sticker to put on..

Anyone seen it out there?

The sticker I used came with an Appetite for Destruction vinyl record I bought off of Ebay. I'm guessing they were issued with the album when it was released (not sure about that though) so maybe you could find another vinyl copy that has the sticker with it to use.

slash was harder to beat in the game than the final boss, the fuckin' DEVIL on devil went down to georgia! that was sick. jungle was a blast to play

ps: i went to the joe perry signing in manhattan and got a gh3 guitar faceplate for the 360 controller and a photo of joe perry himself signed. the only thing though, joe perry seemed like a real dick

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/shotgunblues/IMG_1151.jpg)

i took the guitar hero gnr stickers and put em on my laptop.. it coming out looking like a butterfly was a complete accident.. i just wanted the flames to come out of the guns

gwar stickers? sweet

I'm only playing on Medium (still kinda new to the game), but was able to beat Slash on my first attempt. Of course, I failed One by Metallica three times (I've discovered that playing GH3 when super tired is not very easy).

any one having problems with the wireless controller??? sh*t can't get it to work!!!  ???

My biggest issue, having played the previous guitar hero games, is "unlearning" the old hammer-on technique and strumming more notes.  It's second nature to play some of the sequences as hammer-ons.....they would have worked in GH and both GH2's....but they don't work in GH3.  Taking me a LOT of getting used to, and I'm flubbing and 3 starring songs a lot more often because of it.

Which version?  PS3, 360 or Wii?

2012

Joe Perry = washed up. For God's sake he played guitar on American Idol last year for Sanjaya. That was low point on his career.

LOTS of people who aren't washed up play on American Idol. I'm not even a remote fan of the show and I don't want to hijack the thread, but you can't just go around saying Joe Perry is washed up.

I can and I did.

You obviously HAVEN'T seen him in concert recently. He's still one of the greatest live performers working in the music biz.

thanks for answering!! it is for the ps3......the thingy that hangs from the ps3 just either keeps blinking fast or slow and the gutar just keeps blinking until the light turns off

First, make sure you turn on the console via the button on it, not via any controllers.

Next, once the console comes on, push the PS button on the guitar.  The 4 lights on the guitar should start blinking.

Now push the little button at the "point" of the thing that hangs off the PS3.

Now push the PS button on the guitar again.  They should "link up", and only one light should be on on the guitar now.

That should do it.  You should only have to do things that way once....from then on the controller should auto synch, simply by pushing the PS button once, when you turn on the PS3 (like a regular wireless controller).

got it thanks a lot!! can you believe..there's no instruction in the booklet for the wireless guitar they only show for the regular controller!!! ???

Yup...so I had to buy the game tonight.

Let's see if we can't find a secret GnR song.

havent found any VR or hidden GNR yet...but whatever. setlist still rocks.

anyone know how to get bret michaels in game character? i havent been able to figure it out or find out how to. its driving me nuts

Why would you want to?

He is so fuckig lame. Why is he in a game called Legends of Rock? There is nothing legendary about that pink powder puff. Slash yes. That fool, get the fuck outta here.

you unclock WTTJ when you do an encore with Slash in career mode. as for bret he dont come out. he just has one of his songs in the game that you have to buy. and there is no VR songs in the game. maybe in the future will be able to download them.

He's always the singer for "Talk Dirty to Me" and the song (the name escapes me) for the Brett Michaels band.

There are rumors that one of the unlockable "cheats" is to have him be your singer for EVERY song...including the female singer songs...but I've yet to see anyone confirm that, or talk about how to do it.

i hate playing on medium but this game turned up the difficulty a lot since GH2 so i can't play hard mode yet either.. so i beat the game on medium with the HyperSpeed cheat on. i'm working on playing through the game on hard  mode with hyperspeed cheat so once i play hard mode in normal speed, it'll be a little easier.. i hope lol

Hyperspeed cheat? What's that? Can you tell I've never played this game before last Sunday, LOL  :hihi:

That said, I'm friggin' addicted to it now. I haven't been a 'gamer' since I was twelve or thirteen years old...now that I'm 30, this is the first video game that I've gotten really excited about and am loving it (same feeling I got when I first played tetris or marble madness...or completed Super Mario Bros. for the first time). LOL...I guess I'm really dating myself here, huh. Anyway, I'm playing on the Easy mode (I know...easy is for girls) as I'm just getting used to the controls. I'm more than half way through the game on career mode. Beating Slash and playing Jungle was awesome!

There are hidden VR tracks and some other stuff according to a post on the pr evo forum but i'm not sure if they're DLC:

"I was going to look at the Xbox Live Leaderboards to see the scores on the new DLC (with the CD). To my surprise I found a bunch of songs not in the game along with the new ones. You?ll even be able to play the battle songs for scoring! If you can?t see the pic, the new songs are (I don?t know the artists on some of these):

All My Life (Foo Fighters)
The Pretender (Foo Fighters)
This is a call (I don?t know)
Slither (Velvet Revolver)
She Builds Quick Machines (Velvet Revolver)
Messages (I don?t Know)
Tom Morello Guitar Battle
Slash Guitar Battle
The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

No one has yet unlocked the bolded content above....or if they have, they haven't spoken about it on the 'net.  None of the major GH sites have had any posts or articles about it, and they'd be the ones I'd expect to unlock it first (these are the guys who play through a difficulty not until they 5 star all the songs, but until they PERFECT all the songs).

My guess is it will be DLC.

I wish those 360 tracks were available for the PS3....I have the soundtrack, but the code on it does me no good. :(

Cheats can be found here:

http://www.theguitarheroes.com/guitarhero3cheats.html

That would be MINT!!! Apparently Welcome to the Jungle???? I hope so, luved Sweet Child O Mine.  :hihi:

No, not really ....


Dating yourself starts there!

I played gt3 for about an hour and it burned in the plasma screen.....is happening on yours too?

Nope.  Not at all.  Hopefully, you gave your plasma the 100 or so hours that is recommended for "break-in" before playing...

More then likely what you are experiencing is some image retention rather then burn in.

Run some standard - def content in fullscreen for an hour or so and it should pretty much go away.  : ok:

Also check your tv's setup menu to see if theres any "burn in" protection built into the set .. if so , turn it on and set it to it's highest setting. And if you havent run the tv for 100 hours yet you should set all your brightness/contrast/sharpness and color to much lower settings then the outta the box "torch" settings most TV come set at.

Hopefully this helps.

plus i found out hes only on the PS3 and 360 versions....and considering i got the PS2 version, that would probably answer my question

Saul!  wow, great advice!  I recently turned my TV settince to "cool"  my AV guy said "warm" is no good or something.  Oh well.

Geek Squad Starts Now!!!!!!

Gee...thanks for rubbing it it!  :-\

Home theatre technology is one of my biggest passions to be honest. 1080P with 7.1 TrueHD FTW!  heh.

Seriously though , so many people are buying new TV sets and not bothering to take time to break them in and end up damaging the unit , it's sad. Plus most all of the display set's come from the factory with crazy "torch" settings that look good in the store but back home look like shit. Take a lil time to properly calibrate YOUR set in YOUR home under YOUR viewing conditions and that set will look 10x better.

Most newer DVD's have some calibration test patterns built in too.  : ok:

If you have any A/V questions feel free to send me a PM.  :peace:

All in good fun my friend.  :peace:   

Cheers to 30 years!  :beer:

Guitar Hero III contains "Welcome to the Jungle".

The Velvet Revolver/Foo Fighters songs will be available as download(s).

You said it yourself:

Guitar Hero III. ("Welcome to the Jungle" is a master this time, not a cover)

I mean, come on... You even get to battle Slash and Tom Morello!

GH2 had SCOM, but was another band playing it.

An officially unreleased song of an unreleased album (one of the most delayed ones) being revealed, finally, in a GAME. This never made any sense to me.  :drool:

I think a new GNR song in GHIII was kind of wishful thinking.  Had the album been out this fall then maybe it could have happened.

As for which Guitar Hero to get, I'd say buy number 3, but also get Guitar Hero II as a stand alone disc.  The guitar in Guitar Hero 3 is much better than Guitar Hero 2.  Despite the fact that Sweet Child is a not a master track, I still say it's more fun to play than Welcome to the Jungle.  The into is fun once you get the rhythm down and the guitar solo is pretty challenging on Hard/Expert without being ridiculous like some of the other songs. 

Cheers,

Andrew

New content for the GHIII on PS3 was released today on the PSN.

Some foo fighters and some velvet revolver. VR's content is the full libertad album for 6.99

Seriously?

The entire record?

its only 3 songs from what ive read. i was about to download the VR pack but the PS3 network store is offline at the moment. so ill download the pack when the store is back up and let you guys know if its the whole album

yup its only 3 songs not the whole album

which ones?

Messages, Slither and SBQM

You even get to BE Slash if you save your cash  8)

Slash has lost all his credibility after being in Guitar Hero III and appearing on the cover.

The day Axl is on Rock Band's cover or anything to that extent is the day I quit supporting Guns N' Roses.
I don't care about the songs being in there, that's fine, but nothing says "washed-up has been" like appearing on a trendy videogame.

Umm, ok....





/jarmo

Just out of curiosity, wasn't Axl in Grand Theft Auto in 2004? hmm.  In addition, I think Grand Theft Auto was a
VERY popular game.  Just food for thought. ;)

Yeah.? Axl was in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Here's the thread:
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=17966.0

GTA:San Andreas FTW!

Tommy the nitemare baby , you're on the DUST! K-DST!

 :rofl:

I was just being a little sarcastic since the comment didn't make any sense. ;) Axl and Slash are FAR from being washed up.

Then you might as well leave now, because they've captured Axl's "moves" for the game Rock Band!

:hihi:

i think mr. bucketfoot missed the day slash did a volkswagon commercial.

also, i heard slash on the radio last week and they asked him about guitar hero 3. he said he's played it, but slash can't beat slash in it.

priceless.

Does the GHIII for PS2 has different songs from the one to PS3?  ???

as far as I know it is the same game...but who knows there's always someone who know more than me!!

Same songs.

Different "bonus" character, and Brett Michaels doesn't appear in the PS2 version.

thank you pilferk. : ok:

Redsquare, I have played GH3 and One is in fact by Metallica.

Also, there are only 3 bands that won't allow their music to be used for the game.

The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and AC/DC.

This is definitely true... I went out and bought Iron Maiden's greatest hits after playing The Trooper on GH II... friends of mine did as well. 

I 100% disagree with this statement.  The Guitar Hero series has been a huge success and is wildly popular on top of being original and innovative.  Slash is an iconic guitar hero... placing him in the game and on the cover of GH III should be a badge of honor.  This ensures that an entire generation of 6-year olds and up will be introduced to the Slash and GNR. 

Slash is in the game precisely because he is not a "washed-up has been"... Any guitarists out there would sell their soul to get the recognition that Slash now has.  Slash is legend... and this just immortalizes him even more  :smoking:

slash lost credibility when he performed with michael jackson..end of story.......but then again axl sung on record with alice cooper in 1988...thats just as bad

very true.  GH is "in" right now.  Southpark even spoofed it.  You don't see any guitarists from todays music b/c there aren't any good/well known ones!!!

also, isn't the game "legends of rock".  why wouldn't they have an older guy on the cover.

as for the Slash sucked when he played with MJ, its the same thing.  Jackson was as big as you could get back then - yeah hes a freak right now, but his old songs are STILL good today.

Dont get me wrong not a very big Michael Jackson fan or Alice Cooper but i dont see either one of them loosing any credibility by playing on there albums.

As for the Guitar Hero III version of WTTJ, it may just be me but it really sounds like that track has been remastered for the game. Sounds alot crisper than the Appetite version imo. I just wonder if Slash and Axl had to communicate i am sure via there lawyers for the song to be used ???? Would be cool to see Axl on there .

Are there any songs by D on this thing or what?

If you mean Under My Wheels, Slash and Izzy performed on that track as well.  Why are you so freakin' negative????????

To a bunch of dopes maybe....

you have to get the import version and beat the game will in the presents of Bon Jovi to unlock D's song.

well then you are calling Axl a dope because Axl has said in an interview how much he hated how Slash started playing with different people...hell at the 1992 mtv awards when GNR won an award Axl even took a shot at michael jackson.....and NOBODY was listening to michael jackson in 1992! maybe 1984, but not 1992

Do you really believe all the crap that you post?


MJ wasn't as big as he was in the eighties , but at that time dude was still a fucking huge star.

MJ's Dangerous album sold 30 million copies.  Do you just type to see yourself in print on the screen?

Yeah really MJ was huge in '91- '92. Slash said himself he plays with other musians to fill time, to keep from getting bored. I would. If MJ asked me to play music with him (Back Then), I would have. Eddie Van Halen did.

Michael Jackson still has a loyal following.

His last album, Invincible, sold an estimated 8 million copies.

I just got it, it's my first Guitar Hero experience and it ROCKS!!!

All three installments are fun, if you want the GN'R experience I would go with this one, even though GHII has SCOM.

I've got it on Wii and I've managed to buy Slash as a character...  :D

HAHAHAHA

(http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Owned/stallowned.jpg)

Axl's isnt' going to be a playable character in the game.    His image isn't being used to sell games.   Axl is not a brand, nor would he turn himself into a brand because he has integrity.   

Simply, a Gnr Song is on the games soundtrack, along with songs from 80+ other bands and artists.

use your fucking brain for once

D, you are making yourself look like a complete fool.   Although thats nothing new.

hahaha I found that funny just cause the dude predicted it. Also, I guess I know what being u feels like!  Now i see why u act the way u do!


Shit is hilarious!

I gotta agree with this one, that made me laugh quite loudly :)

Not that I mind Axl being on Video Game, I love that Axl does this stuff.

Hey D, why not bring the fact that Axl lent his voice to GTA into this?


I know why.... Because it ain't the same fucking thing!



Better luck next time!





/jarmo

Isn't the WTTJ track on GH3 already? And Paradise City on that racing game?

Yeah, but according to D, having a song in a game (which means music) is the same as appearing on the cover art of the game, being made into a character in the same game and promoting the game.




/jarmo

Yes (at least as far as WTTJ being on GHIII).  This is an older thread that has seemingly found new life.

Me personaly would love to have Axl and co in the game and as a character and anywhere else they want.

I know, my point was what jarmo said:

does it really matter what Slash does with his career. he already made it BIG TIME with GUNS N ROSES. remember he is a part of the foundations of the band, an even bumble, finck, bucket an fortus will tell you the same thing. i think theres been to much anti_slash goin on in this board for far too long now. fuck sake i wouldnt care if axl lent his face to the next mario game as long as his music was still good. god id hate to be in a band nowadays coz theres always a bunch of spotty teens sat behind there pc with NO LIFE slaggin off your work

GET A LIFE

No, he's free to do whatever he wants to do. It's his career and his life.

But the fact is, I don't have to agree with him talking shit about GN'R and then see him being made into a character in a video game basically thanks to him actually being in GN'R.

And then read about how he thinks video games make kids into zombies....  :hihi:


It wasn't his career before or after GN'R that made him what he is today (a brand). And that's something he's free to do. As I said, it's his choice.


I just think people like D, who lump what Axl is doing into the same category as what somebody like Slash is doing, are a bit off.

It's like calling a cab driver a Formula 1 race driver. Sure, both require you to drive cars, but it's not in the same league....





/jarmo

exactly.   one went on stage and performed with Bill Gates.  The other is simply unveiling a new song in the game.

at the Hard Rock casino here in Las Vegas, there is a Slash display and it has a guitar hero guitar signed by slash.  :hihi:

the guy hasnt been able to find a functionable band since he left GNR. if VR found a decent singer then he wouldnt be doin shit to keep him in the spotlight.

Geez chill guys, it was just a harmless joke. I just thought it was funny that the dude mentioned Axl putting a song in Rockband2 and now there is a song in rockband2.  just kinda cool in a way after all the years of rumors and heresay and speculation, a poster  accidentally guesses something right.


Let me stress:

There is nothing wrong with Slash being in Guitar Hero III and there is nothing wrong with Axl doing GTA or putting a song in Rockband.

I think Tom Morello is someone u could least call a sellout in  music history and he is in GHIII. I think people want to find anything to bash Slash about even stuff that isnt a big deal. Sure he has done some lame shit from time to time but Guitar Hero III was awesome and exposed him to a whole new generation of fans.


I was responding to Mr Bucketfoot and basically saying I thought his post was ridiculous cause there is nothing at all wrong with a musician being featured in a MUSIC video game.

I have problems with TV Commercials, but Music games like GH and Rockband are AWESOME!

If Axl were a character in Rockband2 that would be awesome and I would think anyone who thought otherwise would be wrong.

Sure.

But it still wouldn't be the same thing.....



/jarmo

Slash is actually putting his name on a fashion designer video game now.

The man truly is a sellout.

http://kotaku.com/5023395/slash-goes-from-guitar-hero-to-fashion-hero

that just about sums up all what slash is about,

sellout and slash has more things in common then having the letter "s" at the start of both words.

U people drive me insane sometimes.



Dude is a grownman with an iron clad legacy. who gives a shit what he does, its his life and his business. U think Slash or anybody cares what some people on a message forum thinks of him?

I think u should really be very very careful of who u criticize cause what are u gonna do if that shit comes back around?


How is working on a project with a friend bad?
its certainly no worse than another GNR guitar player going back and forth between bands.

thats why I loved it when Gnr confirmed that they wont be appearing in any reality show,

and they are that determined that no half ass show like American Idol will have the right to be using gnr songs in their telecasts/performances


Gnr has integrity, and that goes along way these days

In my very humble opinnion calling anyone of Original GNR a sellout because of this stuff  is some sort of orgasm of stupidity. Not that it was incorrect, it's just a lot like calling Elton John a gay and hoping you manage to come off as insulting in the process. You know, Duh?
We're talking abut the largest stadion rock band of early 90's remember? They " sold out" loong before you heard the opening riff of WTTJ buddy
Heard Hooker with a penis by Tool? Give it a try!

"All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name."

Have to be said, I don't envy people who have decided to convince themselves Slash is some sort of a slave whore from hell because he chose to appear in Guitar Hero but yet, Axl's actions with GTA:SA and Rock Band "aren't same at all!!!!"It really must take a fuckload of self betrayal :D

Personally I cant understand why the fuck would anyone have a problem with either.It would make more sense if this were..uhh I dunno, Nirvana fan forum, or community of fans of some snobby artsy partsy indie pop act. But uh, this isnt?  This is stuff people who are/were in bands like GNR do you know?

Not a whole lot seems to make sense to you.

So this comes as no surprise.

 :D



What might appear as black to you might actually be dark gray to another beholder.



/jarmo

I know one thing "people love to talk crap about Slash in HTGTH" someone told me this, i didnt believe it, every time i come aruond here I get the feeling I was wrong

Somebody told me that too!

It seems like the Slash fans can't handle the fact that this site is for GN'R. Today.

It also doesn't mean that former members' accomplishments in GN'R are disrespected in any way. Something a lot of those "somebodies" often forget.



/jarmo

Have you notices jarmo that in almost every thread his name comes up and usualy in a negative light, and that you agree with it?
And isnt there a chanse that there are people out there who are both Fans of Slash and of todays GNR.. cause I am

He played amazing guitar on the GN'R albums he was part of.

There.

Happy now?


You might want to ask these somebodies why they think it's ok to attack GN'R but not Slash.....





/jarmo

: ok: are you?

I'm not the miserable suffering GN'R fan.....




/jarmo

Why would you asume I am, Cant I have an opinion or diasgree with the way people speak about any former or Current GNR member?. Im not the kind of Fan that flips sides acording to the times.

I didn't say you were.

You asked me if I was happy, I answered your question.




Neither am I.

I've supported GN'R since the day I became a fan.  :)

Do I have to mention that this is a GN'R site?






/jarmo

Then we have something in common. And you did hint at me being the suffering fan lets not pretend that didnt happen.
and as to your comment that this is a GNR Site, I dont think anyone has forgotten that in this conversation.

No I didn't.

I would've said you were if I thought so.

I only spoke for myself and was answering your question about my level of happiness.





/jarmo

hey  :D I was just returning the courtesy since you asked about mine  :beer:

Here he is, Slash the "SellOut".

http://heathsupdate.blogspot.com/



If being a sell out is helping people in need with out wanting recognition for good deeds and sacrificing time and effort to make someone's day, then I want to be a sell out.  Slash is one of few "Good Guys" of rock still out there.  This article shows he is much more than just a money hungry sell out brand.  He seems like a good person with a big heart.  I know some of you are obsessed with trashing Slash.  Fine.  I think Slash is the type of guy that if you needed something he would be there for you.  He is someone I would want as a friend.  I sense Axl is the same way.  Just because they don't get along with each other doesn't mean they aren't good people. 

Jarmo, THEY ARE USING THIS VIDEO GAME TO DEBUT A NEW SONG!  Original material makes them A FOCAL POINT OF THE GAME.  This is obvious.  In many ways they are just as big as a character because they are getting so much attention for a new single which creates bigger buzz possibly than a Slash character.  I know Slash is using a GNR song in GHIII.....  But didn't GNR use his Riff to make that song a MASSIVE FUCKING HIT? 

Its called "Guitar" Hero.  SLASH PLAYS GUITAR.  Its not LEAD SINGER HERO.  AXL APPROVED JUNGLE TO BE IN GHIII....... 

Oh man......

All I'm gonna bother telling you is that doing a nice thing for somebody who's sick doesn't automatically mean you can't be a sell out at the same time.

Just like telling the truth once doesn't mean you're an honest person.



Now, please go back to the VR section.  : ok:




/jarmo

You act like Slash is Gene Simmons....  Just showing not everything Slash does is about money.  Its just fucking stupid to judge a 42 year old man on how he chooses to put food on the table and provide for his family.  Look at all the sports games.  There are so many athletes that are characters too.   The shelf life is only so long for these guys.  It would be stupid if they didn't seize opportunities when they have them.  One day they won't have the opportunities.  Jarmo, if you were offered $1,000,000 to be in a movie about GNR, would you do it?

No I don't. Please show me the proof.



Now you assume I'm an idiot.

I don't judge him. I've said it on several occasions that it's his life and his decisions.

What I don't understand is people like yourself defending him and acting like he is this super cool guitar player who's going against the whole industry because of his cool punk attitude.

He wants to pay the bills by appearing in a game, good for him.

Some musicians get regular jobs to pay their bills, some make music for commercials, some quit the music business all together. It's all about choices.



In my opinion, you can't just do stuff like a VW commercial and act like you're the 25 year old rebel against sponsorship etc. It makes no sense to me.

You appear in a video game, get the money and then start talking about how the games make kids into zombies. So now you have a conscience?


I don't get the part where his fans trying to validate his every move by saying GN'R is doing the same thing by putting a song in a game. When it's not even close.



By the way, being in one video game doesn't necessarily make you a "sell out". I don't even use that term because it's so clich?.

You just seem to have forgotten all the other stuff that's been done over the years.



At the end of the day, it's about integrity.



You're talking about Slash and how he's someone you'd want as a friend. Kinda interesting. I'm assuming you're just basing this on his public image and not actual time you spent with him?





/jarmo

Agreed, as far as I know, Gene uses his money in a such way so that a lot of good things can happen around the world.

You are taking some things out of context Jarmo for example The comments Slash made about "video Games turning kids into zombies" I think he said that refering to TOO MUCH TIME being spent on the games and not Real life and i agree with him on that.

Too much of anything isn't good for you....





/jarmo

Hahahaha, you think the karma gods will punish me for thinking slash is a sellout? We'll see.  If I get hit by a truck carrying a bunch of tophats then we'll talk.

And to all those that say Axl's situation isn't any different it is.  He's using a video game to get his NEW music out to other people.  Slash is different because he's throwing his name on a fashion designer video game which has NOTHING to do with the music at all to grab a quick buck. He's not marketing anything here but his image.  That's selling out.  The guitar hero thing was different because that's a way of idolizing Slash for the music he created and his status as a "guitar god".

I drew a line in my head and Slash crosses it by doing VW commercials and writing a tell all book and tarnishing his good name by marketing America's Next Top Model the video game. Yeah, the man can do whatever the fuck he wants....he's earned it.  But he's earned the opportunity to be made fun of for whoring out his name when the opportunity comes along.

Im not saying "U"

Im saying, CHinese Democracy hasnt came out yet. So dont pigeon hole yourself into a corner saying how Slash is a "Sellout" when u have no idea exactly what Axl is gonna do to promote CD. Just saying, bashing Slash leaves the potential to have egg on your face.

Whats the difference in Slash helping a friend and Axl helping a friend appearing on Baz' CD?

There is no difference. its a friend helping a friend


I love how everyone says the shit about GNR not being on reality TV when u know deep inside everybody on here would be shouting from the rooftops in delight if Axl did a reality show chronicling Chinese Democracy. Everyone here would love it and not one person would be negative.


Slash turned down reality TV also and didnt do the stupid Rockstar show.


Let me ask u this:

If Slash is "All about the money"

why the fuck did he leave Guns N Roses? U know how much money he lost not being in GNR?  Had he stayed in GNR for the fame and money even though he hated it, that would make him a sell out.  The fact he had the integrity and balls to leave it when it wasnt working for him anymore shows he has TONS of integrity.

 I saw a fucking Guns N Roses baby bib in hot topic.......................

D, this is a GNR board, not a Slash board.  Our opinions here will always be wrong. 

Fact:  Slash in Guitar Hero and VW commercial makes him "Relevant". 

Opinion: GNR not in character, not releasing albums, not in commercials makes them full of "integrity". 

Slash helped bring new fans to GNR, he gets no credit for that.  Viewed purely as a freeloader and hanger-on.... 

Axl's got integrity.

Have you noticed how he's only appeared on a few albums over the years?

Like with Baz, he wanted to help out his friend. So he did it.

Now if he had helped out 100 of his friends in the last few years and some of them happened to be favors to his record company, maybe you'd got a point.







Because he didn't get his way and thought Axl would beg him to come back?

Looks like he got that wrong.


Made lots of money?

He said they lost money while they were in GN'R and he wasn't interested in that.



He appeared on some guy's record because his record company asked him to. Is that integrity?

How about saving money on recording studios and letting the music's quality suffer. Is that also integrity?

Just wondering.




Ah, you're back.

Appearing in commercials makes you relevant? All right.


Would that mean all the musicians and other artists NOT doing it aren't relevant?


It's true, doing that kind of stuff keeps you in the spotlight.

It's pretty much the same thing talentless ass clowns do (attention: I didn't say Slash is a talentless ass clown, I thought I'd better make sure that was clear before "somebody" tells you I said so).

They make sure they're seen every time they leave the house just to be "relevant".


I remember reading this thing on Blabbermouth, Paul Stanley talking about the possibility to have a reality show where they look for new KISS members:


For some of us, he has gone past the line, but for some of you, he's still in the "cool zone".

Good for you.

We just have a different definition on that.





/jarmo

This is quite interesting information, Is there a source for it you can share?
Thanks in advance

being in a VW commerical makes someone relevant?  :rofl:

its doing a job for a paycheck.    not that there is anything wrong with doing that, but hardly lends to an argument on someone's integrity or credibility or relevancy.

Slash's friend, Marc Canter:







/jarmo

They didn't ask Finck to do the commercial Rim Job.

Jarmo, GNR management told Axl to put a song on Rock Band 2.  It wasn't "His" idea. 

The man that signed VR asked Slash to guest on a Daughtry song, and that song went to #1 by the way.  Slash said, sure thing, and he did and put down a good solo.

Management tells Axl to do something, he does.

The man that signs VR asks a favor from Slash, he does it. 

Looks similar to me.

holy shit I never heard about that! thats a burn on slash

Amazing how ego's and pride prevent people from working things out.  Slash and Axl both didn't want to back down easily.

Really?

Do you know what management is supposed to do?

Managers are supposed to help and guide the artist with their career.

So if that's the case, then they did their job.


Getting new music out isn't exactly selling out now is it?

How ANYBODY can come to this conclusion is beyond puzzling.

I guess it takes a Slash fan to try to turn something positive into this.


Never mind the VW or Mastercard commercials and appearances on Ellen trying to sell you house.








You gotta be kidding right?


So if Slash's manager asked him to do a commercial for Kia Motors and Axl's manager asked Axl to tour, both are the same thing?  :rofl:



You still didn't get back to me on my questions.

But you keep saying things are the same.  :hihi:






/jarmo

the fuck does that have to do with anything?   I said nothing about Robin.     you're another one who thinks because that overrated hack is more famous that its a "fact" that he is better.


pure speculation.   Maybe it was Axl's idea?   Hell, maybe it was Bumblefoots?  who fucking knows?


nice try

Well, Axl hasnt "DONE" it yet without Slash. The jury is still out on how well the album and band are received. say CD doesnt even go Gold? then what?



I certainly wouldnt try to debate who has more intergrity when it comes to Axl or Slash. Axl probably has the most integrity of any musical artist on the planet and Slash has done some pretty dumb and interesting things.

My point is however, that Axl is definitely the exception and not the rule. there are only a handful of artists u can find Axl,Prince,Eddie Vedder   and im sure there are a few more that have tons of integrity.



Guitar Hero III though wasnt one of the lame,poor things Slash did, thats actually one he got right.

Ummm, Axl could have played hard and said, "The first people that are going to hear these songs are my dedicated fans that have waited 11 years for this Album.  I think promotion is great, but we are going to let them get the first listen. Not some 9 year old that got Rock Band 2 for his birthday.  Get Chinese Democracy first, we can do video games later".  

Don't misunderstand me, I am excited for the song coming out, eventhough I don't play video games.  

 : ok:




It definitely was up his alley.

Just don't agree with how it happened.....





What proof do you have that that's not gonna happen?  ???





/jarmo

I have no idea "how" it happened though. is there some sort of backstory with it?

As I said, you keep talking shit about GN'R for years and yet you're happy to be in the game thanks to GN'R.

While you're acting all "supportive".....



/jarmo

Jarmo, I have no proof.  I am assuming from Mysteron's posts that album is coming after the game, but still coming in 2008.  

Axl does have integrity for the most part.  Nobody is perfect, ask Stephanie Seymore.  Or holding a concert hostage to sign over rights to band to one member....  He still seems like a great guy.

Axl is my favorite front man of my favorite band ever.  Don't confuse me here.  Also the favor was from legendary Clive Davis.  A guy that did a lot for VR.  It was a nice gesture and the song isn't half bad.  So he kind of trumps the manager.  I hope we get a proper single other than the game.

Yeah....... I dont know if I agree with that one Jarmo. He did write the guitar part and his part is whats featured in the game.

So even though he isn't in GNR, he still wrote the song so there is absolutely nothing wrong with using what u wrote however u want to use it.

Just because he and Axl had a falling out, doesnt mean time/sobriety doesnt give u clarity on stuff and make u remorseful. should he and Axl forever feud because of that?


On the Clive Davis thing. Slash said he wasnt happy about it but The record head has your fate in his hands so sometimes u have to do certain things to make them happy.

U honestly dont think Axl hasnt had to compromise ANY for his label? Didnt Axl even say he had to go back and re record stuff for the label?

There was a lot of pain in that emotional divorce.  Axl handled it better for sure.  There is still a lot of love there, and when things go wrong like, people tend to make irrational, borderline stupid, comments.  I am not apologizing for Slash, but I certainly understand his emotion.

Didn't Axl Sign off on Guitar Hero III????? SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS FOR ME!

Like the out of tune Finck solos?  I think so, yeah. 

Yeah, try to put Robin down because your hero made TV commercials.

 : ok:



/jarmo

Am I misunderstood?  I serious thought they had to re-record the out of tune guitar.  Or out of pitch.  Did I misread that article?  Was that not a question that was asked?  Did I not supply the correct answer? 

Jarmo, I am not here to argue, I thought that is what they re-recorded.

Did Axl sign off on Guitar Hero III......YES OR NO

Axl sold his publishing rights in regards to the back catalog to Sanctuary. No?

and stop bashing Robin  >:(   it makes you look extremely bitter

Quit those stupid comments.

First, you have to be really ignorant to think Robin's solo RECORDED IN A PROFESSIONAL STUDIO could end up out of tune somehow. Even for a fucking demo they could just ask to rerecord it right after the first take. Or, if you're really being serious about believing shit like these, there's always a tool called Pitch Correction that EVERYBODY uses.

So, stop looking like a fool with those lies to bash Robin. You don't have a clue about what you're talking about and its extremely childish to try to make Slash looks better with all this shit.

IMO, its all about the publishing rights Sanctuary owned in 2005.

Voodoo, Kirk Hammett is always out of tune on his bends.....  Not uncommon.  Especially with wah on.  Either you have a great ear or not.

I like Robin's attitude, but he is always way off live too.  I didn't say I believed it, but wasn't it Del or someone that mentioned this?  Wasn't it from an official source?  Most people wouldn't know how off Kirk Hammet is, but he is.  And he used to be considered a great player.

By the way, Slash has some out of tune bends as well.  Live during high volumes very easy to bend out of tune.  Especially in different tunings, like if you are a half step down, it will throw off your normal muscle memory because there is less tension, so you must use your ears. 

Voodoo, you are a guitar player.  You know what a good bend and a bad bend is.  Use your ears.  Bucket was always in pitch.  I am sure Bumble probably is too.

I dunno Hammet work, Im not a Metallica fan. I can talk about Robin tho. He didn't record for just a regular album and, as I said, it could be easily fixed.


About the source, I believe you're quoting a Del's joke in an email to a fan. And I guess he said "tone issues" and not "out of tune".

SORRY FOR THE MISQUOTE.  See, I didn't just bring that out of nowhere.  It really separates the men from the boys in guitar.  Alternate picking and speed is great, but if you can't bend great the rest kind of gets diminished.  I still work hard on bends.  It takes a long time to nail.  Different strings are different too.  I usually nail the g string with ease.  B string?  Pretty good.  E string?  Not always. 

You're talking about live performances, not recorded guitar tracks for one of the most waited albums of the rock.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't try to record something that I can not play. I have wrist problems, so I can't really bend every note I want, so I either adapt  the play or just change it for something else.

Still, as much as you hate the guy, Robin is a professional player working with professional people. I'm sure the tech people, the rest of the band (including Axl) and everyone involved in the making of the album would be careful enough to not put mistakes in this particular album.

The leaks all sound perfect to me.  He is good in studio.  I never heard anything wrong.   : ok:

Oh yeah, so Axl can sell his song rights for 20 million and u guys bash Slash?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okL9E9u2m2w&feature=related

Is this how Axl talks to Robin in Studio?  Just kidding.  Man, Bob Rock layed into Kirk.

He sells song rights, but do the old players still get royalties?  Or does Sanctuary get them?

yeh  ::), thats why Gnr stopped american Idol for trying to use gnr songs by their contestants...

figures

Was this how Bucket talked to Finck and that is why Finck didn't like Bucket?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=546KjKMB9kw&NR=1

Stop with those lame jokes with Robin using Metallica's videos.

So why would you think he would have to rerecord the "out of tunes" solos and take Del's comment in this way?

Its publishing rights and still it's for using the songs, not his image or character. Also, Axl may have some word on how and where the songs are used.

BTW, you know Slash and Duff sued Axl for not "using" the GNR old songs in some movies and all, right?

Still, why would Axl actions make Slash looking less bad?

Ummm, Maybe the leaks are final?!?!?!?!  Just kidding.  This could have been years ago.  But I don't think Del was serious. 

The movie you are talking about is Black Hawk Down where the actual song in real life was "Welcome to the Jungle" but Axl said no to that movie using it. 

But they used it in 1987's "Lean on Me" starring Morgan Freeman. 

Dude how  dare u mention a shitty guitarist like Kirk Hammet in the same sentence as the great Robin Finck.

Dont u know that if Robin were playing Enter Sandman, he'd crush Hammet's version!

You're so funny. Really.

it must suck to be so fucking bitter.

sucks that your overrated lil hero isn't in the band?   haven't gotten used to it after all these years?    now is as good a time as ever  : ok:   you might as well.   

i thought this was a site for people who are fans and respect the band.    you clowns give GnR fans a bad rep.

:rofl: :rofl:  D, hilarious.  

Your hero is currently REUNITED in his old band.  I wouldn't speak to soon on his future with Guns.  Apparently Guns doesn't even know his future.

From the terminology used in the deal Axl "leased" his publishing rights to Sanctuary and was paid $20 million for 20 years in return for them getting some percentage of profits from the licensing fees the songs earn in ads and movies, and from the looks of it Axl has retained at least some say in where the songs are used, because I've yet to hear a GnR song pop up in an embarrassing location

If Slash wants to cash in on his image more power to him but in my opinion over the years he's become more concerned with his image than he is about making great music which is where the criticism comes from.  When he's out there in all the ads and appearing on all the talk shows even the most uncool ones like Ellen, but trying to maintain this image of ultra-cool, anti-establishment bad boy, it seems a bit phony.  But again I think if he was making a more concerted effort to make the caliber of music he's capable of I don't think many people would even care

^ Funnier than when Slash joined Michael Jacksons on stage to ruin a Van Halen solo?

There you go, it will all become about a thread about old vs. new. Good job, guys! : ok:

Indeed, man.

See, I don't really have a problem with Slash being in the GH3 game. I wouldn't even post here in this old thread if it wasn't for this silly (and totally off-topic) Robin bash fest.

You love to make assumptions, don't you?

hey, if Robin chooses not to be in GnR any longer, I respect that and wouldn't be bitter like you fuckers.  He's quite great in NIN and am looking forward to seeing him this summer.   I'm not speaking about his future, the future remains to be written.   But officially he is the lead guitarist of Guns N' Roses and you can't come here and bash him like that and think its going to be cool.    This topic has nothing to do with him!

go back to the fucking VR section.

Voodoo IF u read the whole thread u will see that the Slash bashing started and we just defended it

Go check the thread where Rim Job says Slash is over rated and just a regular run of the mill guitar player and that Robin is better than he is

Check out that thread BEFORE trying to bash us. : ok:


Slash has reached such a level where he is untouchable. Anything he does will be cool and there is nothing he can do to tarnish his legacy.

He is 42, not 20 anymore.  But I agree with a lot of what you say.  He is a Dad and a Husband.  People do like to hear his stories.

the only way you clowns can defend $la$h is by bashing Robin Finck.   its all you've got.   

All i said was he is overrated.     nothing to do with any other guitarist.

Off topic

Poor Kirk

Sometimes man, the simplest fuckin thing trips u up. I had a song i was playing with  my band, and I dont know what it was but I can do all the complicated soloing and everthing else but there was this one easy fuckin little rhythm thing and I just couldnt get it

STILL CANT so I just keep soloin over that part now. :hihi:




ON TOPIC

Dont play innocent now JIM BOB

U said Robin played SCOM and the AFD songs BETTER than Slash, the dude who CREATED the fucking things. That is my point.

I love the new band and old band. It just seems I hate the new band cause I have to constantly defend the old guys against people like u that have to try and slander and bad mouth the old guys hoping Jarmo or someone will give u a backstage pass or some shit.




U know Rim Job, that caliber of music argument works two ways Bro.

Slash has won a grammy and got critical acclaim for Contraband.

Axl still hasnt shown his hand, so who knows how he will be received? what if the critics hate it and the album flops? THEN what?

And what the hell does this other thread have to do with this? And what if Jim Bob likes Robin more?

I'd go with Robin's rendition of SCOM solo anytime. You disagree. Fine, thats called opinion. You just can't handle it.

You're talking shit about a current (yes, current) band member in the band section. What do you expect?


Please, remember how you FIRST bumped the old thread just to make a joke about mrbucketfoot and then trash Axl and now Robin.

Voodoo

U can play a Jimi Hendrix song right?

Does that make u BETTER than Hendrix?

POINT

U an LIKE anyone u want but when u start spitting out "BETTER" I can prove your ass wrong.

I like Dirk Nowitzki better than Micheal Jordan but would be an absolute fool to say Dirk was BETTER than Jordan. Why? cause u got PROOF, hard data that proves the point



here is a funny ass spoof of that Hammett video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Etq2unMpw&NR=1

Off Topic, D, I have that same problem. I am a much better lead player than rythm and my brain doesn't think much rythm.  Just enough to get by.  

Voodoo, nobody is really bashing anyone here.  I look to you and Jim Bob as friends and fellow fans that I have discussions with about our favorite band.  I wish Robin was as commited to GNR as you and Jim Bob are to him.  He may still be 100% GNR, just doesn't look that way.  

I do find your analysis of Finck's playing a little odd considering you DO play guitar and know have his live improve solos are a complete joke.  Its your opinion, but there is nothing in those solos I want to emulate on any level.

HA!!!!!!!!!!  That was awesome!

this is the last time i'm going to say this to you.


ITS A VALID FUCKING OPINION.    I am allowed to prefer someone else's interpetation of a song.  Theres nothing wrong with doing so. 

shut up.   i think i've seen you capitalize the words WRITE and CREATE 20 times today.    I dont' give a fuck.

no you dont love the band now.    all you do is bash them.   

when will you get it through your thick skull that you don't have to bash something in order to defend something else.    all you know how to do is run your mouth and talk shit.


you don't fucking know me.  don't assume my intentions.   i genuinely support the band (unlike you, who couldn't be bothered to go see them when they were on tour) and my opinions are my opinions. 


i'm not so fucking superficial like you to allow commerical success to affect my enjoyment of something.    you are happy following the crowd and shit like public image and album sales is what matters to you.  you're a fucking bon jovi and nickelback fan..  i wouldn't expect any less.   but not me.     

Yeh, I'm with D. How can someone play the songs better than the people who created them?  :confused:

I mean, when you create something, it tends to come from your own soul.

You can't take a soul unless you're the devil, or something............remember that Fonzie episode..... :hihi:

I know a lot of GnR fans think Slash plays KOHD better than Dylan, myself included

But some of the same ones will act like it's sacrilege if you think Buckethead could play Nightrain better than Slash so who knows

There are a multitude of songs where the cover version is considered by many to be better than the original, I don't see why Slash is immune from this

because its subjective and might sound better to somebody's ears?

this is why $la$h is overrated because you guys act like its impossible for someone to play something that sounds better than him.  ::)

I agree with you for once
for instance, say, people cant accept that buckets adaptations to nightrain in 02, and knockin on heavens door etc
that ARE better then what slash did,

people sometimes , are so blind sighted by the fact that their "guitar hero" can be out done on their own songs, by someone who looks like a freak,

we live in such an aesthetic world when we judge someone by what they wear, where in actual fact, they play better then someone who is true to themselves, ironic isnt it?

Once there was a kettle condemned rock stars providing songs to commercials. let alone appearing on them  as despicable deed. many things happened since then have changed his mind. He could be so noble as to admit what he said in the past but who cares it was just drivel in a net forum, no one remembers. Maybe even the poster himself. So he just passes it off as unsaid and laughs at a pot.

I hear when GNR came out fashion people said long hair was in again.
People who thought no act from outside of the uk would ever thrill them proved themselves wrong.
people came to think better of covers.
when GNR toured in 2006 the reviews said lightning stroke the same place twice.

GNR opens people's eyes, broadens people's outlooks.

Don't bother yourself with those who refuse to see. remember not everyone likes Beatles or zep.
live and let die.