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An investigation has been launched into claims former Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash broke the law by smoking on stage during a concert in Cardiff.

Slash and singer Scott Weiland, members of rock band Velvet Revolver, are said to have smoked cigarettes at Cardiff International Arena.

Smoking in enclosed public spaces has been banned in Wales since 2 April.

Cardiff Council said it was "disappointed" to hear the claims and would be investigating.

Velvet Revolver - made up of three ex-Guns N' Roses members and former Stone Temple Pilots singer Weiland - were performing at the city centre venue as part of a tour of Europe and the Americas.

Slash - known for sporting his signature top hat with a cigarette hanging from his mouth on stage - was said to have lit up about halfway through the band's set.

Gavin Allen, who reviewed the concert for the South Wales Echo, said: "I don't think anyone in the crowd minded and I didn't hear anyone complain. It's possible the fans didn't realise it was illegal.

"I'm not that surprised because with a band like that, you expect them to smoke fags."

'Not acceptable'

Since the smoking ban in Wales was introduced, anyone caught smoking in smoke-free premises faces a ?50 fixed penalty fine.

There are similar bans in Scotland and Northern Ireland, and England will follow suit on 1 July.

If the case is prosecuted and someone is convicted in Wales, the fine can rise to up to ?200.

The manager of a smoke-free building can be fined a fixed penalty of up to ?2,500 for failing to stop someone smoking.

Cardiff Council said: "The no-smoking ban seems to be operating well in Cardiff so we are disappointed to hear that there may have been an incident of someone smoking on the stage at the CIA.

"We have yet to receive any formal complaints but we will be investigating the matter and arranging to meet with the management of the CIA urgently to explain that this kind of behaviour is not acceptable as well as seeking assurances that this will not happen again."

No-one at the Cardiff International Arena was available for comment.


Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6735695.stm

The Smoke Nazis have taken over the world .

Absolute bullshit. Let the man smoke if he wants. He could've been snorting coke off his guitar strings!

You said it, brother!  I live in a town where you can't smoke in a restaurant's outdoor seating, but you better not complain when, in those same outdoor seats, you get a big facefull of bus exhaust!

Oh, and this article brings up another point.  The "CIA" (Cardiff International Arena)?  Come on.  The World Wrestling Federation gave way to the World Wildlife Fund...does ANYONE think "Cardiff International Arena" when they hear CIA?  Or, maybe I have it all wrong!  Those damned Cardiff Arena people have illegal prisons in countries around the world!  I KNEW my country wasn't to blame!  ;D

The Welsh love to sing - don't you know how damaging second hand smoke can be to the vocal chords!!!

lol now i didnt know this rule applied to gigs. certainly the performers.

Unbelievable I can't believe how big an issue they are making of Slash smoking. big woop. next it'll be "Slash gives 3 people cancer by having 1 cigerette" that's stupid

It's happened to Keith Richards too.
Sorry for Slash or anyother smoker, but I absolutely agree with the law against smoke, because I am an allergic person and since 2 years ago here in Italy, I couldn't stay in enclosed public spaces more then 30 minutes. The consequence for me was an asthma attack due to smoke. Do you know what it means?
It's not a nazi law. It save my life because asthma can kill an allergic person.
I can't image to stay at home instead to see concerts because the arenas is deny for me.
Reflect before talk

If Slash can smoke, why the rest of the people don't? Yes it's unbelievable
Oh my God  :no:

this is just stupid... Imagine Slash without smoking on stage... How shitty would it be? It would be the same if he didnt have the hat... the smoking is part of him... and it?s one of the reasons why we think he?s so fucking cool.  :smoking: (lol  I dont smoke and I hate to inhale others smoking so I?m not against these new laws, I think they are right but hey!... Slash is Slash  ;))

Yeah, at the show i went to, slash and scott could smoke while security would shut down any audience member that tried to light up. I personally believe thats how it should be.  The smoking is practically part of the act/show and it doesnt really carry out into the audience anyways. Now if, someone in the jam packed crowd is smoking, you will know pretty quickly 

In the city in which I live , an anti-smoking ordinance was enacted that made no exceptions . This had the effect closing cigar bars and tobacco shops could not allow patrons to sample their product . The law was enacted after lengthy debate on these two business' . If someone owns a business and wants to allow smoking I say it is their right ; just as it is your right not to frequent that establishment . I say once again ... smoke nazis

Sweet child of Woodbine

Jun 10 2007

by Nathan Bevan, Wales On Sunday
 
FORMER Guns ?n? Roses guitarist Slash has hit back at the prospect of a paltry ?50 fine for breaking Wales?s smoking ban.

The former hell-raiser was last night facing being one of the first in Wales to be prosecuted for breaking the ban ? which came into effect a month ago ? after lighting up at a Cardiff International Arena gig.

But it seems Slash isn?t in the least worried about the prospect of a fine, after telling Wales on Sunday: ?I won?t let any smoking ban bother me!?

The infamous star ? famed for playing his guitar with a ciggie dangling from his mouth ? and his Velvet Revolver band mates were seen puffing away on stage during their only Welsh date in the capital last Thursday.

But when told of the law which declares that all enclosed public places in Wales are smoke-free zones in an interview with Wales on Sunday a week prior to the show, the Los Angeles wildman explained that it ?didn?t worry him?.

But the incident has now sparked an investigation by Cardiff City Council into whether any law has in fact been broken.

And if it does, then it could make 41-year-old Stoke-on-Trent born Slash ? real name Saul Hudson ? the first to be prosecuted for breaching the ban since it came into place on April 2.

And it could land each member of the hard rocking US five-piece a ?50 fine.

Moreover, if proven, the venue itself could face an even heftier fine of up to ?2,500 for not making them put out their cigarettes, while fans in the crowd who wanted to smoke had to go outside.

A Cardiff Council spokeswoman said: ?The no-smoking ban seems to be operating well in Cardiff.

?So we are disappointed to hear that there may have been an incident of someone smoking on the stage at the CIA.

?We have yet to receive any formal complaints.

?But we will be investigating the matter and arranging to meet with the management of the CIA urgently to explain that this kind of behaviour is not acceptable as well as seeking assurances that this will not happen again.?

A fan of Velvet Revolver, who travelled from Aberdare to see the show, said: ?I?m amazed no one expected this to happen.

?Slash without a fag in his mouth would be like the late Oliver Reed walking past an open pub door.?

I think if they've recieved no complaints, then they should just shut up and let it pass.  The law is for the benefit of the general public, not the authorities, and if nobody at the show saw fit to complain, then let this one slide, and make it clearer before any future concerts.

Slash is a heavy smoker , there is really no point in him Scott or Duff going offstage and outside the arena for a smoke, if Slash was hit with a fine of 50 Pounds for smoking in an arena he would pay it no problem :yes:

But they knew of the law a week before the show, doesn't matter if no one complained. BY that logic, if no one complained about a drug dealer on a corner, then no harm done right?

I've lost all respect for him now. :no:







:hihi:

Well in theory, but people on the street DO complain about drug dealers don't they. 

It caused no harm, no-one at the show was bothered, and when push comes to shove, do you REALLY think slash will blink twice about paying ?50 for the privelage of smoking in public? 

He Had 1 (one) cigarette in a 2 hour set. If you can't handle 1 person on stage having a cigarette maybe you should stay home.

It's the law. So it's the principle that counts. The law doesn't specify how many you can smoke before you're breaking the law, if you're caught smoking then it's illegal. The leniancy of the fine (50 euros) reflects the fact it was a small offence.

I remember at the Dublin gig in 2005, when Ireland was the only country to have banned smoking in public places, Slash said he was disappointed the Irish didn't rebel against it: "I thought if anyone would have fought against this it'd be the fuckin' Irish!" :rofl: Anyway, Slash and Scott lit up and smoked anyway which was cool. Nothing happened then, but at least this incident in Cardiff proves nobody is above the law.

I agree with estrangedpaul. The law does not say "no one can smoke in public except famous rock stars." It is the law, and in democracies the law applies to all equally. A person has the right to disagree with the law and to vote for politicians who may try to change the law, but it is inappropriate to claim, for example:

a. no one complained
b. no harm was done
c. the law should not be enforced

Those  types of attitudes are dangerous to society and lead to anarchy. For the sake of societal order, laws have to be applied to everyone. If a law is bad, it should be changed. But until it is changed, or rescinded, it is necessary to enforce the law  or you start down the slippery slope to anarchy.

But the point is that a.) if no one complains and b.) no harm is done, then c.) it shouldn't be fucking illegal!  Hell, there are plenty of things that a.) are complained about and b.) certainly cause harm but c.) aren't illegal...the KKK would be a good example. 

The fact is that politicians want to regulate silly little behaviors because some excessively vocal minority gets their panties in a bunch over it. 

smoking should be banned all together, however that is not the case and i think its ridiculous to even think slashs cigarette could harm any of the crowd.

You're right of course.  I just received a bunch of cigars in the mail.  Arrest me officer!  ::)

The problem with this issue is that it's just a bunch of blowhards on either side, who refuse to reach an acceptable middle ground. 

Where I live, you currently cannot smoke in any restaurants or bars.  Of course, smokers no longer frequent these places as often, thus leading to less profit.  I cannot imagine why it isn't acceptable to have smoking and non-smoking bars.  Or, even easier, to have smoking and non-smoking hours.  But the anti-smoking bunch are such douchebags that they can't BEAR the idea that one person, somewhere, might want to light up.  Thank God they've focused their collective efforts on this, rather than the War, or education, or social security.  : ok: 

smoking kills, its pointless, it costs a person alot of money being addicted to it, cancer is not nice and smoking is a leading cause of lung cancer, its not nice to see a family member die from it, i should know.

i hate the smell of of them, i dont wanna breath that shit in thanks, ive never tried a cigarette i dont see the entertainment in breathing cancerous smoke through my lungs.

why would you be against the idea of having non-smoking and smoking bars?

I mean everybody knows that smoking may cause lung cancer but hey it's their choice to light one up...

Smoking does kill, though I'm not sure a non-smoker can say that it's pointless.  If a smoker sees a point, then doesn't that, in fact, make it something other than pointless? 

But the question isn't whether it's good or bad for you.  The question is whether different people are allowed to have different views.  The anti-smoking groups don't believe so.  They cannot accept the fact that, despite it being bad for you, some people want to smoke.  If we outlaw everything that kills, then almost everything will be outlawed.  For example:

---1.2 Million people die in car accident each year (worldwide)
So let's outlaw driving!

---In 2000, the UN estimated that 529,000 women died during childbirth.
So let's outlaw fucking!

---And how many drink themselves to death, either in one night or over the course of 50 years?

But most people like to drink, drive, and fuck (not simultaneously...usually  :hihi:), so we don't outlaw those. 

I want to make everyone happy, with a middle ground.  Anti-smoking groups can't stand the middle ground.   

The argument against it is that those poor bartenders have to suffer through all that smoke.  Yeah...as if 95% of bartenders aren't smokers, too.

Some people don't see the entertainment in spending hundreds of pounds in listening to rock music in order to have your hearing destroyed.  Maybe they get some pleasure out of it you can't understand. 

I have nothing against people smoking. Just don't fuckin blow the smoke in my fucking face! You might want to kill yourself but I don't want to go with you.. :hihi:

You are talking about this particular situation though. There are many environments where passive smoking causes problems. Its funny; i didn't expect the law to work but it did because for whatever reason, most smokers supported it.

thats subject to debate.

rock musics so good, it cant destroy you

rap music, now thats what i call a ear killer.  : ok: