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Title: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Lucky on June 07, 2007, 11:08:39 AM
here's an interesting thing to discuss.
Del James said that the recording was done.
but he didnt specify what part of the recording was done.
back in 06 axl said that they have 26 songs almost done, and 6 in the works.
What part of those 32 songs have been recorded?

a) all 32
b) 13 slated for CD
c) somewhere in between

this is not an invitation for a bashing festival. so try to discuss it peacefully. :P


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 11:14:32 AM
I would guess the 13 for Chinese democracy.

remember, axl had 3 days left of work to finish Chinese democracy. And never finished it in 06, So I would expect that is what is finished.

I doubt 32 songs are finished.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 11:15:52 AM
we dont know


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Lucky on June 07, 2007, 11:20:01 AM
^^well, since it was left 3 days to finish it in 2006, and it took em 3 months to finish it in 2007,
then it might be that they finished more songs than it was planned to be done in 2006.


also, the unplanned rescheduling could have been used to do some more work in the unfinished remaining songs.(greedy)



we dont know

that never stopped us before


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 11:28:11 AM
^^well, since it was left 3 days to finish it in 2006, and it took em 3 months to finish it in 2007,

What kind of logic did you use to come up with that?


It was reported that the recording was done in February. It could've been done before that.

Besides, February is the second month of the year. Even 2007.




/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: CheapJon on June 07, 2007, 11:28:49 AM
"The good news is that all of the recording for the album has been completed. "


that is what Del said and it pretty much answer the question ;)

source: http://web.gunsnroses.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070222&content_id=a1&vkey=news&fext=.jsp


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Lucky on June 07, 2007, 11:47:12 AM
^^well, since it was left 3 days to finish it in 2006, and it took em 3 months to finish it in 2007,

What kind of logic did you use to come up with that?


It was reported that the recording was done in February. It could've been done before that.

Besides, February is the second month of the year. Even 2007.




/jarmo

damn dude.
do you have to go against anything I say?
if you really want me to go technical, they finished the tour abruptly to work on the album.
We were informed at the end of february that the album was done, that leaves us with, Jan, Feb, and part of the December. That's more than just 2 months. (and even it was 2 months, would it make any fucking difference)

if it was only a few days work left in 2006 and it took 3 months, then it's possible that they said "fuck it, while we're at it, let's finish the whole lot, and get the thing off our backs".


It was reported that the recording was done in February. It could've been done before that.

yeah right.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Axlfreek on June 07, 2007, 11:56:06 AM
i wonder if they will postponed this tour to work on the album ?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Lucky on June 07, 2007, 12:03:32 PM
^the start of this tour has already been rescheduled 2 times...
but not for that reason.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 12:17:42 PM
^the start of this tour has already been rescheduled 2 times...
but not for that reason.

true, but youd have to think they did do some more mixing while it was postponed.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 01:13:21 PM
damn dude.
do you have to go against anything I say?

Yes, as long as you keep posting stuff I don't agree with.

The shows in January were cancelled so they could finish the recording. It was done in January.


Just because the update was made in February, doesn't mean it was made at the exact moment that they pressed "STOP" at the studio.....





/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 01:32:03 PM
^the start of this tour has already been rescheduled 2 times...
but not for that reason.

true, but youd have to think they did do some more mixing while it was postponed.

maybe so, but the band isnt there when its mixed...the mixes are given to them (axl) and then he gives feedback on how the mixes sound.....all that i know is that the album isnt out...thats what i care about....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 01:34:46 PM
^the start of this tour has already been rescheduled 2 times...
but not for that reason.

true, but youd have to think they did do some more mixing while it was postponed.

maybe so, but the band isnt there when its mixed...the mixes are given to them (axl) and then he gives feedback on how the mixes sound.....all that i know is that the album isnt out...thats what i care about....

Knowing axl, I wouldnt be surprised if hes there watching everything. alot of times the band is there.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: gummyfish on June 07, 2007, 01:37:22 PM
you know axl? damn, you lucky bastard. :hihi:


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 01:38:42 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 01:40:48 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

But see, he never did finish it. those finishing touches were never completed until this year.. we have news now that its finished and mixing now.

remember, supposedly they only needed 3 days left of work on the album last may, but axls "muse" didnt show.

its finished now. Thats how id expect recording went. Axl only worked when he felt like it.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 01:43:14 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

But see, he never did finish it. those finishing touches were never completed until this year.. we have news now that its finished and mixing now.



yes, i know..it was never finished...is it finished yet? i have no idea. ill know it's finished when it comes out.....we heard news back then that it was almost done, we heard news about this for many years, including this year....after a while, its the boy who cried wolf mentality....i dont believe it anymore...ill believe it when it is released.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 01:44:47 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

But see, he never did finish it. those finishing touches were never completed until this year.. we have news now that its finished and mixing now.

remember, supposedly they only needed 3 days left of work on the album last may, but axls "muse" didnt show.

its finished now. Thats how id expect recording went. Axl only worked when he felt like it.


oh , and btw...you mentioned "axl's muse." i think you are a bit confused....axl IS the Muse.....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: suicide on June 07, 2007, 01:46:37 PM
if you really want me to go technical, they finished the tour abruptly to work on the album.

Did we ever find out what the real reason was?
Lucky, don't take it bad when Jarmo goes against anything you say, at least he doesn't delete your posts.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 01:47:01 PM
damn dude.
do you have to go against anything I say?

Yes, as long as you keep posting stuff I don't agree with.

The shows in January were cancelled so they could finish the recording. It was done in January.


Just because the update was made in February, doesn't mean it was made at the exact moment that they pressed "STOP" at the studio.....





/jarmo

But it sure would suck if they cancelled those concerts so they could finish the album... but it only took 'em a few weeks to do it anyways. ?I mean, if it really wasn't that much work, it would have been cool for the fans if Axl had decided to postpone his couple of weeks worth of recording just long enough that they could see the concerts. ?It's not like there was anything much on the schedule for the first half of 2007 anyways. ?

Except the private concert for Donatella Versace and her rich and fabulous friends. ?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 01:49:17 PM
damn dude.
do you have to go against anything I say?

Yes, as long as you keep posting stuff I don't agree with.

The shows in January were cancelled so they could finish the recording. It was done in January.


Just because the update was made in February, doesn't mean it was made at the exact moment that they pressed "STOP" at the studio.....





/jarmo

But it sure would suck if they cancelled those concerts so they could finish the album... but it only took 'em a few weeks to do it anyways. ?I mean, if it really wasn't that much work, it would have been cool for the fans if Axl had decided to postpone his couple of weeks worth of recording just long enough that they could see the concerts. ?It's not like there was anything much on the schedule for the first half of 2007 anyways. ?

Except the private concert for Donatella Versace and her rich and fabulous friends. ?

good point. thing is, those concerts were not cancelled to work on the album...we know that....there was another reason, but is it worth talking about at this point?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Rockin' Rose on June 07, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
I think that everyone knows that, anything can happen in this band, I just not sure if everyone remembers that though.

I won't get in to the March release stuff but to an other thing that wasn't suppose to happend, Ron wasn't suppose to contribute to the album, he said that himself, he came in too late but he did record stuff for it.

I myself am happy about it, it's something I theorized last year when someone came up with the post-poned to 2007 thread, call it a 6th sense or something but somehow I know that the material Ron came up is damn good because, Axl probably would'nt use it if it wasn't.

So who knows, maybe they did finalize recording for CD in january and after that, maybe they continued working on the rest of the material, maybe they worked on the 6 under work songs and almost finished them.

The rock is rolling and after the Japan dates they've basicly toured the world as this new line-up...


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 01:53:30 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

But see, he never did finish it. those finishing touches were never completed until this year.. we have news now that its finished and mixing now.

remember, supposedly they only needed 3 days left of work on the album last may, but axls "muse" didnt show.

its finished now. Thats how id expect recording went. Axl only worked when he felt like it.


oh , and btw...you mentioned "axl's muse." i think you are a bit confused....axl IS the Muse.....

is he, I take it that axl needs to be abit inspired/Pushed to get work done. I dont think the muse was axl, but his being inspired to work on stuff. Theres another artist like him out there Ace frehley. Since 1993 hes been hyping up his solo album which has yet to come out!! fact is, hes just not motivated and never gets around to finish it.

Only this year, hes got a new bass player whos really pushing ace, that the cd is finally done/recorded.

I think they have some similarities. I dont think its so much as axl is a perfectionist as it is that axl needs to be pushed/motivated to get work done. I think he would be very content to just stay at home and be a recluse. I wouldnt be surprised if the past 5 years Very little work was done on the album to finish it.



Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 01:55:06 PM
I think that everyone knows that, anything can happen in this band, I just not sure if everyone remembers that though.

I won't get in to the March release stuff but to an other thing that wasn't suppose to happend, Ron wasn't suppose to contribute to the album, he said that himself, he came in too late but he did record stuff for it.

I myself am happy about it, it's something I theorized last year when someone came up with the post-poned to 2007 thread, call it a 6th sense or something but somehow I know that the material Ron came up is damn good because, Axl probably would'nt use it if it wasn't.

So who knows, maybe they did finalize recording for CD in january and after that, maybe they continued working on the rest of the material, maybe they worked on the 6 under work songs and almost finished them.

The rock is rolling and after the Japan dates they've basicly toured the world as this new line-up...

I also figured he'd go record more stuff once he got a feel for the new guitarist and playing these songs live with a band. 

Shame though.  If Axl liked to rehearse with his band, he might have realized how those songs could have been improved.  There's no better way to figure out a song than playing it live with the band, you know? 


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 01:55:53 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

But see, he never did finish it. those finishing touches were never completed until this year.. we have news now that its finished and mixing now.

remember, supposedly they only needed 3 days left of work on the album last may, but axls "muse" didnt show.

its finished now. Thats how id expect recording went. Axl only worked when he felt like it.


oh , and btw...you mentioned "axl's muse." i think you are a bit confused....axl IS the Muse.....

is he, I take it that axl needs to be abit inspired/Pushed to get work done. I dont think the muse was axl, but his being inspired to work on stuff. Theres another artist like him out there Ace frehley. Since 1993 hes been hyping up his solo album which has yet to come out!! fact is, hes just not motivated and never gets around to finish it.

Only this year, hes got a new bass player whos really pushing ace, that the cd is finally done/recorded.

I think they have some similarities. I dont think its so much as axl is a perfectionist as it is that axl needs to be pushed/motivated to get work done. I think he would be very content to just stay at home and be a recluse. I wouldnt be surprised if the past 5 years Very little work was done on the album to finish it.



look up the word "Muse." i think you're thinking "mojo."


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 01:56:34 PM
if you really want me to go technical, they finished the tour abruptly to work on the album.

Did we ever find out what the real reason was?


You got to hear it from Axl himself.



But it sure would suck if they cancelled those concerts so they could finish the album... but it only took 'em a few weeks to do it anyways.  I mean, if it really wasn't that much work, it would have been cool for the fans if Axl had decided to postpone his couple of weeks worth of recording just long enough that they could see the concerts. 

In order to meet the tentative release date Axl set, it had to be done then.

That was the plan.

Unfortunately, things didn't go as planned (as mentioned on GNR.com).



good point. thing is, those concerts were not cancelled to work on the album...we know that....there was another reason, but is it worth talking about at this point?

Let me guess. Somebody told you something again?  ::)



Axl did some recording in January.

That's a fact.

Not speculation from some people who think they know what's going on.





/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 01:59:43 PM
if you really want me to go technical, they finished the tour abruptly to work on the album.

Did we ever find out what the real reason was?


You got to hear it from Axl himself.



But it sure would suck if they cancelled those concerts so they could finish the album... but it only took 'em a few weeks to do it anyways.? I mean, if it really wasn't that much work, it would have been cool for the fans if Axl had decided to postpone his couple of weeks worth of recording just long enough that they could see the concerts.?

In order to meet the tentative release date Axl set, it had to be done then.

That was the plan.

Unfortunately, things didn't go as planned (as mentioned on GNR.com).



good point. thing is, those concerts were not cancelled to work on the album...we know that....there was another reason, but is it worth talking about at this point?

Let me guess. Somebody told you something again?? ::)



Axl did some recording in January.

That's a fact.

Not speculation from some people who think they know what's going on.





/jarmo

oh im sorry, you're the only authority on gnr activity...my bad.....fact is, all of us have no idea what is going on. and yes, sometimes i do find out what really is going on...but i dont have a bat phone that goes straight to axl's house, as im sure you do....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 02:00:06 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

But see, he never did finish it. those finishing touches were never completed until this year.. we have news now that its finished and mixing now.

remember, supposedly they only needed 3 days left of work on the album last may, but axls "muse" didnt show.

its finished now. Thats how id expect recording went. Axl only worked when he felt like it.


oh , and btw...you mentioned "axl's muse." i think you are a bit confused....axl IS the Muse.....

is he, I take it that axl needs to be abit inspired/Pushed to get work done. I dont think the muse was axl, but his being inspired to work on stuff. Theres another artist like him out there Ace frehley. Since 1993 hes been hyping up his solo album which has yet to come out!! fact is, hes just not motivated and never gets around to finish it.

Only this year, hes got a new bass player whos really pushing ace, that the cd is finally done/recorded.

I think they have some similarities. I dont think its so much as axl is a perfectionist as it is that axl needs to be pushed/motivated to get work done. I think he would be very content to just stay at home and be a recluse. I wouldnt be surprised if the past 5 years Very little work was done on the album to finish it.



look up the word "Muse." i think you're thinking "mojo."

Muse(myz)
n.
1. Greek Mythology Any of the nine daughters of Mnemosyne and Zeus, each of whom presided over a different art or science.
2. muse
a. A guiding spirit.
b. A source of inspiration
.
3. muse A poet.

see...


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 02:08:06 PM


look up the word "Muse." i think you're thinking "mojo."
Quote

Muse(myz)
n.
1. Greek Mythology Any of the nine daughters of Mnemosyne and Zeus, each of whom presided over a different art or science.
2. muse
a. A guiding spirit.
b. A source of inspiration
.
3. muse A poet.

see...

Quote

exactly. see the first definition....its a noun. in the letter he was referred to as "THE Muse."....a noun...person, place, or thing....remember school house rocks?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 02:09:02 PM
oh im sorry, you're the only authority on gnr activity...my bad.....fact is, all of us have no idea what is going on. and yes, sometimes i do find out what really is going on...but i dont have a bat phone that goes straight to axl's house, as im sure you do....


You stated it as a fact that the January shows weren't cancelled because Axl wanted to finish recording.

Show me the "proof".



I showed you why you're lying.

Axl was spotted in Las Vegas in January. According to the local newspaper, he was there recording.

Exactly what he said he would do.

As far as I remember, Bumblefoot did some recording for the album in January as well.



No need for a bat phone, Just read, use common sense and don't start making everything out to be a big conspiracy.

Also, get over the whole idea that the band is against its own fans and is constantly lying to us. That seems to be the attitude some of you have.



/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 02:12:29 PM
oh im sorry, you're the only authority on gnr activity...my bad.....fact is, all of us have no idea what is going on. and yes, sometimes i do find out what really is going on...but i dont have a bat phone that goes straight to axl's house, as im sure you do....


You stated it as a fact that the January shows weren't cancelled because Axl wanted to finish recording.

Show me the "proof".



I showed you why you're lying.

Axl was spotted in Las Vegas in January. According to the local newspaper, he was there recording.

Exactly what he said he would do.

As far as I remember, Bumblefoot did some recording for the album in January as well.



No need for a bat phone, Just read, use common sense and don't start making everything out to be a big conspiracy.

Also, get over the whole idea that the band is against its own fans and is constantly lying to us. That seems to be the attitude some of you have.



/jarmo

you showed i was lying? ummm, no you didnt...why the hell would i lie about something like this? thats absurd.....im just posting what i know and my opinion...you dont have to agree with it...no problem....but get on the bat phone to find out whats really going on....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 02:13:44 PM


look up the word "Muse." i think you're thinking "mojo."
Quote

Muse(myz)
n.
1. Greek Mythology Any of the nine daughters of Mnemosyne and Zeus, each of whom presided over a different art or science.
2. muse
a. A guiding spirit.
b. A source of inspiration
.
3. muse A poet.

see...

Quote

exactly. see the first definition....its a noun. in the letter he was referred to as "THE Muse."....a noun...person, place, or thing....remember school house rocks?

a guiding spirit, source of inspiration. Why would axl not be there if he was in the place?? its pretty understandable what is meant. THat axl just wasnt inspired so he didnt get much of any work done.

hes not the only persn to not have such a great work ethic. As ive said. other artists have promised albums that are still not out!! more namely Ace Frehley guitarist of Kiss. tom keifer of cinderella has been promising a solo album every year since 1995. still not out..


and ibelieveinaxl, say why the shows were cancelled then?? I cant think of another reason. unless it was ticketsales. those are the only reasons bands usually cancel dates


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 02:15:21 PM


a guiding spirit, source of inspiration. Why would axl not be there if he was in the place?? its pretty understandable what is meant. THat axl just wasnt inspired so he didnt get much of any work done.

hes not the only persn to not have such a great work ethic. As ive said. other artists have promised albums that are still not out!! more namely Ace Frehley guitarist of Kiss. tom keifer of cinderella has been promising a solo album every year since 1995. still not out..


and ibelieveinaxl, say why the shows were cancelled then?? I cant think of another reason. unless it was ticketsales. those are the only reasons bands usually cancel dates

Quote

ask jarmo, he has a bat phone, unfortunately i dont...


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Bartlet on June 07, 2007, 02:21:36 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 02:23:29 PM
you showed i was lying? ummm, no you didnt...why the hell would i lie about something like this? thats absurd.....im just posting what i know and my opinion...you dont have to agree with it...no problem....but get on the bat phone to find out whats really going on....

This is your opinion?


thing is, those concerts were not cancelled to work on the album...we know that....there was another reason, but is it worth talking about at this point?

It sounds like you're stating it as a fact and the truth.

Just throwing shit out there with no proof to back it up.

When you get called on it, you start to make your snide remarks about bat phones. How convenient.

Maybe you should've said: By disregarding all the facts we have, I've come to the personal opinion that the concerts weren't cancelled to finish the recording..



/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 02:26:50 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 02:30:22 PM
you showed i was lying? ummm, no you didnt...why the hell would i lie about something like this? thats absurd.....im just posting what i know and my opinion...you dont have to agree with it...no problem....but get on the bat phone to find out whats really going on....

This is your opinion?


thing is, those concerts were not cancelled to work on the album...we know that....there was another reason, but is it worth talking about at this point?

It sounds like you're stating it as a fact and the truth.

Just throwing shit out there with no proof to back it up.

When you get called on it, you start to make your snide remarks about bat phones. How convenient.

Maybe you should've said: By disregarding all the facts we have, I've come to the personal opinion that the concerts weren't cancelled to finish the recording..



/jarmo

Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it. ?

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order. ?Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it. ?It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks. ?I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio. ?But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way. ?Those are his rules. ?But if you live by the sword, you die by it too. ?In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got. ?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 02:31:17 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: 25 on June 07, 2007, 02:32:30 PM
not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

If "the muse" refers to Axl then who are the "we" and "us" in the previous sentence? Merck was only one person (at last count).


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 02:33:03 PM
Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it. 

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order.  Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it.  It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks.  I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio.  But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way.  Those are his rules.  But if you live by the sword, you die by it too.  In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got. 


Are you still upset about your Dizzy interview?



/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 02:38:03 PM
you showed i was lying? ummm, no you didnt...why the hell would i lie about something like this? thats absurd.....im just posting what i know and my opinion...you dont have to agree with it...no problem....but get on the bat phone to find out whats really going on....

This is your opinion?


thing is, those concerts were not cancelled to work on the album...we know that....there was another reason, but is it worth talking about at this point?

It sounds like you're stating it as a fact and the truth.

Just throwing shit out there with no proof to back it up.

When you get called on it, you start to make your snide remarks about bat phones. How convenient.

Maybe you should've said: By disregarding all the facts we have, I've come to the personal opinion that the concerts weren't cancelled to finish the recording..



/jarmo

Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it. ?

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order. ?Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it. ?It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks. ?I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio. ?But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way. ?Those are his rules. ?But if you live by the sword, you die by it too. ?In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got. ?

thank you. i post on the board because i love the band...if i know something ill say it.   but  now i guess i wont because jarmos makes comments like the ones above...again, like i said, why the hell would i lie about this? there is not reason..does me no good..whats the point? none....so, if there is a gag order here, i guess more and more information/discussion will be quashed.....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Bartlet on June 07, 2007, 02:40:39 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


guns n motley is quite correct. ibelieveinaxl, you have just misunderstood the meaning of the word muse, an its use in this context.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: PolarBearWitchHead on June 07, 2007, 02:41:37 PM
Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it. 

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order.  Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it.  It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks.  I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio.  But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way.  Those are his rules.  But if you live by the sword, you die by it too.  In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got. 


Are you still upset about your Dizzy interview?



/jarmo

im not embroiled in years of drama so i don't have some obsessed motive, but that looks like sidestepping with a snide remark too :P


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
I don't get to post the things I know to be facts -- partly out of respect for the band and the impossible situation they're in, and partly because I know it'll just be wiped anyways.

But what sucks is that you have to sit there and take it when Jarmo and others accuse you of speculating and spreading false rumors. ?Hopefully Axl will find some peace and happiness in the future. ?Maybe the gag orders and the paralyzing paranoia will one day go away, and Axl will share a little more with the world. ?



Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on June 07, 2007, 02:45:12 PM
damn dude.
do you have to go against anything I say?

Yes, as long as you keep posting stuff I don't agree with.

The shows in January were cancelled so they could finish the recording. It was done in January.


Just because the update was made in February, doesn't mean it was made at the exact moment that they pressed "STOP" at the studio.....





/jarmo

But it sure would suck if they cancelled those concerts so they could finish the album... but it only took 'em a few weeks to do it anyways.  I mean, if it really wasn't that much work, it would have been cool for the fans if Axl had decided to postpone his couple of weeks worth of recording just long enough that they could see the concerts.  It's not like there was anything much on the schedule for the first half of 2007 anyways. 

Except the private concert for Donatella Versace and her rich and fabulous friends.

Didn't you "attend" that party. ;D


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 02:46:53 PM
Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it.?

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order.? Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it.? It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks.? I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio.? But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way.? Those are his rules.? But if you live by the sword, you die by it too.? In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got.?


Are you still upset about your Dizzy interview?



/jarmo

Not at all, man. ?I was disappointed for the listeners that they couldn't hear all the awesome stuff word for word that I did. ?But really I just found it pathetic and hysterical that a grown rock star was afraid to talk about the band he was in. ?

This is exactly the kind of baiting I was talking about. ?I know stuff. ?You know stuff. ?Lots of people know stuff. They're just not allowed to discuss it because of Axl's issues. ?And it's a shame, because a lot of those details could really humanize Axl and show that these frustrating delays and cancellations aren't part of some grand conspiracy... it's just the product of a human being trying to deal with some very difficult issues. ?

But go ahead man... just insult me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about! ?Rock on! ?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 02:47:04 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.
read mercks letter...the Muse didnt show up to record....merck and engineers set up studio time...the muse (axl) never showed up..

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


guns n motley is quite correct. ibelieveinaxl, you have just misunderstood the meaning of the word muse, an its use in this context.

read merck's letter, merck set up studio time for axl. merck and the engineers showed up, the muse (axl) didnt...


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: gummyfish on June 07, 2007, 02:50:13 PM
about the stage of the album status..here's part of an article from the end of 2002....i guess it takes more than 5 years and counting to move on from this stage....

Friday, November 22, 2002


John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

But see, he never did finish it. those finishing touches were never completed until this year.. we have news now that its finished and mixing now.



yes, i know..it was never finished...is it finished yet? i have no idea. ill know it's finished when it comes out.....we heard news back then that it was almost done, we heard news about this for many years, including this year....after a while, its the boy who cried wolf mentality....i dont believe it anymore...ill believe it when it is released.

interesting post considering your name. ;)


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 02:55:21 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.
read mercks letter...the Muse didnt show up to record....merck and engineers set up studio time...the muse (axl) never showed up..

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


guns n motley is quite correct. ibelieveinaxl, you have just misunderstood the meaning of the word muse, an its use in this context.

read merck's letter, merck set up studio time for axl. merck and the engineers showed up, the muse (axl) didnt...

I read it perfectly. Merck set up studio time for axl to get work done. Axl got NO work done because his muse or inspiration didnt show up. Its jsut a term. Why would merck call axl the muse?? axl is mercks inspiration??

that makes alot more sense than axl never showed up to do the work. You are misunderstanding it!!


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 02:58:47 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.
read mercks letter...the Muse didnt show up to record....merck and engineers set up studio time...the muse (axl) never showed up..

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


guns n motley is quite correct. ibelieveinaxl, you have just misunderstood the meaning of the word muse, an its use in this context.

read merck's letter, merck set up studio time for axl. merck and the engineers showed up, the muse (axl) didnt...

I read it perfectly. Merck set up studio time for axl to get work done. Axl got NO work done because his muse or inspiration didnt show up. Its jsut a term. Why would merck call axl the muse?? axl is mercks inspiration??

that makes alot more sense than axl never showed up to do the work. You are misunderstanding it!!

You're aruging over the use of the word "muse" and missing the point.  Whether or not Axl was the muse or Axl's muse was the muse, the point is the same... Merck and the gang tried to get the record out.  They booked a studio and all showed up... but, for whatever reason,  Axl couldn't complete his end of the agreement.  Whether or not he stayed home or showed up and didn't do anything seems to be a moot point.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 03:00:45 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.
read mercks letter...the Muse didnt show up to record....merck and engineers set up studio time...the muse (axl) never showed up..

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


guns n motley is quite correct. ibelieveinaxl, you have just misunderstood the meaning of the word muse, an its use in this context.

read merck's letter, merck set up studio time for axl. merck and the engineers showed up, the muse (axl) didnt...

I read it perfectly. Merck set up studio time for axl to get work done. Axl got NO work done because his muse or inspiration didnt show up. Its jsut a term. Why would merck call axl the muse?? axl is mercks inspiration??

that makes alot more sense than axl never showed up to do the work. You are misunderstanding it!!

You're aruging over the use of the word "muse" and missing the point.? Whether or not Axl was the muse or Axl's muse was the muse, the point is the same... Merck and the gang tried to get the record out.? They booked a studio and all showed up... but, for whatever reason,? Axl couldn't complete his end of the agreement.? Whether or not he stayed home or showed up and didn't do anything seems to be a moot point.

still proves my point that axl just aint motivated!!  and only works when he feels like it. Thus the huge delay.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 03:03:43 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.
read mercks letter...the Muse didnt show up to record....merck and engineers set up studio time...the muse (axl) never showed up..

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


guns n motley is quite correct. ibelieveinaxl, you have just misunderstood the meaning of the word muse, an its use in this context.

read merck's letter, merck set up studio time for axl. merck and the engineers showed up, the muse (axl) didnt...

I read it perfectly. Merck set up studio time for axl to get work done. Axl got NO work done because his muse or inspiration didnt show up. Its jsut a term. Why would merck call axl the muse?? axl is mercks inspiration??

that makes alot more sense than axl never showed up to do the work. You are misunderstanding it!!

we can talk about and disagree what the word means...however, bottom line..and i think we can all agree is that the album is not out and we all want it....so, we can talk about words, delays, etc...till we are blue in the face..but that doesnt change the fact the the cd is not out....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ppbebe on June 07, 2007, 03:09:42 PM
Not knowing it's not in the vocabularies of some, I used the word many times here before anyone did.

muses are goddess of music/art and science. For instance Terpsichora guides dancers she likes.
It's the same thing to inspiration unless you literally believe in Greek mythology.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 03:09:47 PM
thank you. i post on the board because i love the band...if i know something ill say it.   but  now i guess i wont because jarmos makes comments like the ones above...again, like i said, why the hell would i lie about this? there is not reason..does me no good..whats the point? none....so, if there is a gag order here, i guess more and more information/discussion will be quashed.....


I asked for proof. You didn't provide any.

You posted in a way that made it seem like it was a fact, when in fact nothing more than speculation from you based on your own guesses.


Then you start making bat phone remarks and make yourself look as the poor victim.

Please.



Lots of people know stuff. They're just not allowed to discuss it because of Axl's issues.


Well in my opinion there are two kinds of people. Those who know what a private conversation is, and those that don't.

I don't know what exactly you know about Axl and what he told you when you met him in February, but I suspect he didn't give you an interview. Therefore it falls under the private conversation category.




/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 03:16:38 PM
thank you. i post on the board because i love the band...if i know something ill say it.? ?but? now i guess i wont because jarmos makes comments like the ones above...again, like i said, why the hell would i lie about this? there is not reason..does me no good..whats the point? none....so, if there is a gag order here, i guess more and more information/discussion will be quashed.....


I asked for proof. You didn't provide any.

You posted in a way that made it seem like it was a fact, when in fact nothing more than speculation from you based on your own guesses.


Then you start making bat phone remarks and make yourself look as the poor victim.

Please.



Lots of people know stuff. They're just not allowed to discuss it because of Axl's issues.


Well in my opinion there are two kinds of people. Those who know what a private conversation is, and those that don't.

I don't know what exactly you know about Axl and what he told you when you met him in February, but I suspect he didn't give you an interview. Therefore it falls under the private conversation category.




/jarmo

i told the board what i know. you asked for proof..who are you? the irs, the president, the fbi? let the board members decide on their own...they are free thinkers...they dont need you forcing beliefs down their throats....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it.?

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order.? Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it.? It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks.? I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio.? But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way.? Those are his rules.? But if you live by the sword, you die by it too.? In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got.?


Are you still upset about your Dizzy interview?



/jarmo

Not at all, man. ?I was disappointed for the listeners that they couldn't hear all the awesome stuff word for word that I did. ?But really I just found it pathetic and hysterical that a grown rock star was afraid to talk about the band he was in. ?

This is exactly the kind of baiting I was talking about. ?I know stuff. ?You know stuff. ?Lots of people know stuff. They're just not allowed to discuss it because of Axl's issues. ?And it's a shame, because a lot of those details could really humanize Axl and show that these frustrating delays and cancellations aren't part of some grand conspiracy... it's just the product of a human being trying to deal with some very difficult issues. ?

But go ahead man... just insult me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about! ?Rock on! ?

Dizzy respects Axl, he's not afraid of him

And the reason we do not discuss 'stuff' about GN'R is because we respect Axl

Your words and assumptions are sensationalist


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Bartlet on June 07, 2007, 03:18:17 PM
bloody hell. the only way in which it could mean axl is if we accept axl is his own muse, which is a step too far given the letters content.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: sjgotnitro on June 07, 2007, 03:18:30 PM
Well I just hope the cd is done mixing and in the hands or almost in the hands of the label.

Hopefully the band can give some kind of update on the status soon. At this point the update from months ago is old.

Everyday I check this site for the glimmer of hope of getting some new info.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 03:19:21 PM
bloody hell. the only way in which it could mean axl is if we accept axl is his own muse, which is a step too far given the letters content.

this is getting funny.....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 03:20:49 PM
thank you. i post on the board because i love the band...if i know something ill say it.? ?but? now i guess i wont because jarmos makes comments like the ones above...again, like i said, why the hell would i lie about this? there is not reason..does me no good..whats the point? none....so, if there is a gag order here, i guess more and more information/discussion will be quashed.....


I asked for proof. You didn't provide any.

You posted in a way that made it seem like it was a fact, when in fact nothing more than speculation from you based on your own guesses.


Then you start making bat phone remarks and make yourself look as the poor victim.

Please.



Lots of people know stuff. They're just not allowed to discuss it because of Axl's issues.


Well in my opinion there are two kinds of people. Those who know what a private conversation is, and those that don't.

I don't know what exactly you know about Axl and what he told you when you met him in February, but I suspect he didn't give you an interview. Therefore it falls under the private conversation category.




/jarmo

Hey man, I agree. ?That's why we're not discussing it. ?Just the fact that "it" exists.

Though I do think that if Axl knowingly has a conversation with someone who runs a fan website and poses for pictures promoting that site, he's gotta kinda expect it to be reported. ?

But still, because Axl has decided that his band must be run in that one special way, we're not allowed to discuss anything of substance. ?

But I"m not just referring to that meeting with Axl. ?I've heard things from lots of people connected to the band. ?It's easy to find them. ?You just have to know where to look and who to talk to. ?Since I started trying to find things out on my own last year, I've had the awesome opportunities to talk to Axl once, Dizzy three times, Tommy twice, Talking Metal a bunch of times, and I've emailed with several members of the band. ? There are always fascinating things happening in the GNR world. ?Some it it's not flattering necessarily, but it paints a more realistic picture of who Axl is and why getting this album out has been such an ordeal. ?

Unfortunetly, Axl would rather people blindly speculate. ?Sadly, I think that causes him more trouble in the long run than if he'd just be open and honest and allow his band the chance to behave the same way.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Bartlet on June 07, 2007, 03:21:03 PM
OK firstly, mojo and muse are just alternatives to the word "inspiration" or perhaps "motivation". At no point in tyhe letter is Axl refered to as a/the muse.

secondly, to get back to the question that is the title of this thread - no one knows. all we know is that the songs for CD - at least - have been recorded and, last we heard, are being mixed. also, i would point out that the plan to record 3 albums before even releasing the 1st is a few years old now, and plans change. notice it hasnt been mentioned for a good while by anyone with any credibility - band members/staff/record company.

Finally, sorry if anyone has said all this while i have been typing.
read mercks letter...the Muse didnt show up to record....merck and engineers set up studio time...the muse (axl) never showed up..

not true...read merck's letter..here is one sentence from it..."We then scheduled sessions in London in August and had our engineers meet us there at the end of the English tour. August came and went and once again the muse did not show."

muse is a noun, but it doesnt represent a person. It is not axl. They are talking about inspiration.

In the bible, they talk about the "muse" inspiring them to write the scripture. He is clearly talking about inspiration. People use the term for inspiration. If something inspires someone they say "that is my muse"


guns n motley is quite correct. ibelieveinaxl, you have just misunderstood the meaning of the word muse, an its use in this context.

read merck's letter, merck set up studio time for axl. merck and the engineers showed up, the muse (axl) didnt...

I read it perfectly. Merck set up studio time for axl to get work done. Axl got NO work done because his muse or inspiration didnt show up. Its jsut a term. Why would merck call axl the muse?? axl is mercks inspiration??

that makes alot more sense than axl never showed up to do the work. You are misunderstanding it!!

You're aruging over the use of the word "muse" and missing the point.? Whether or not Axl was the muse or Axl's muse was the muse, the point is the same... Merck and the gang tried to get the record out.? They booked a studio and all showed up... but, for whatever reason,? Axl couldn't complete his end of the agreement.? Whether or not he stayed home or showed up and didn't do anything seems to be a moot point.


no, you are missing the point. i realise we are having a discussion within a discussion (which you are doin in a diferent way with jarmo), but the point of it is the use and meaning of the use of the word muse in the letter.

but this thread spiralled outta control some time ago.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 03:23:36 PM
Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it.?

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order.? Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it.? It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks.? I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio.? But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way.? Those are his rules.? But if you live by the sword, you die by it too.? In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got.?


Are you still upset about your Dizzy interview?



/jarmo

Not at all, man. ?I was disappointed for the listeners that they couldn't hear all the awesome stuff word for word that I did. ?But really I just found it pathetic and hysterical that a grown rock star was afraid to talk about the band he was in. ?

This is exactly the kind of baiting I was talking about. ?I know stuff. ?You know stuff. ?Lots of people know stuff. They're just not allowed to discuss it because of Axl's issues. ?And it's a shame, because a lot of those details could really humanize Axl and show that these frustrating delays and cancellations aren't part of some grand conspiracy... it's just the product of a human being trying to deal with some very difficult issues. ?

But go ahead man... just insult me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about! ?Rock on! ?

Dizzy respects Axl, he's not afraid of him

And the reason we do not discuss 'stuff' about GN'R is because we respect Axl

Your words and assumptions are sensationalist

You can respect someone and be afraid of them too. 

My words aren't assumptions.  If you'd like to PM, I'd be happy to explain myself.  But for now, we've gotta play along with the gag order and pretend that it does Axl, his band, or his fans any good.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 03:32:56 PM
i told the board what i know. you asked for proof..who are you? the irs, the president, the fbi? let the board members decide on their own...they are free thinkers...they dont need you forcing beliefs down their throats....

Keep the remarks coming.

You amuse me.




You can respect someone and be afraid of them too. 

My words aren't assumptions.  If you'd like to PM, I'd be happy to explain myself.  But for now, we've gotta play along with the gag order and pretend that it does Axl, his band, or his fans any good.


Maybe Dizzy just realized what kind of an interview you were after and didn't wanna take part in it?

Tommy and Dizzy used to talk about GN'R all the time and some of you were posting "I wish they'd shut up because they don't know anything" back then.


It's like with Bumblefoot. He likes to talk. But everything he says is overanalyzed and twisted around to the point that he just doesn't wanna mention GN'R at all.




/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: sjgotnitro on June 07, 2007, 03:36:15 PM
mysteron and Jarmo,

is there any hope to getting an update from the band on the cd status even if it does not contain a release date?

The one from months ago seems so out dated at this point. At the time of axls letter he stated they had so many weeks left or months, were months past that point with no sign of anything. ?I know stuff changes all the time.

I understand that, no problem but maybe it is time to clue the fans in again, give them some hope or something to rally around.

And I know jarmo no matter what axl or the band says there will always be people who bitch, that will not change if they give an update or not , but the majority of tha fans will be happier if they get some news.
 ?



Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 03:38:15 PM
i told the board what i know. you asked for proof..who are you? the irs, the president, the fbi? let the board members decide on their own...they are free thinkers...they dont need you forcing beliefs down their throats....

Keep the remarks coming.

You amuse me.




You can respect someone and be afraid of them too.?

My words aren't assumptions.? If you'd like to PM, I'd be happy to explain myself.? But for now, we've gotta play along with the gag order and pretend that it does Axl, his band, or his fans any good.


Maybe Dizzy just realized what kind of an interview you were after and didn't wanna take part in it?

Tommy and Dizzy used to talk about GN'R all the time and some of you were posting "I wish they'd shut up because they don't know anything" back then.


It's like with Bumblefoot. He likes to talk. But everything he says is overanalyzed and twisted around to the point that he just doesn't wanna mention GN'R at all.




/jarmo


dude, is something wrong with you? can you not have a discussion with someone that disagrees with you? boards are about open discussion and different points of views...we can all respond like adults..i dont get you....i think its great there are boards for fans to discuss issues about the bands they love....and its cool to read about different experiences and point of views...the boards should be about fun and not hatin.' i love you, man....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 03:45:04 PM
Jarmo --

Yeah, I agree.  A lot of times when the band tires to give an interview, it ends up in speculation.  But I think it's because they have to be intentionally myserious and misleading about shit. ?They can't just come out and say things, though because they're cool people and equally frustrated, they try to do the best they can for the fans. ?

Things get over analyzed because there's shit else to talk about, and a lot of things they say are misleading... like when Axl announced that Slash had come to tell him that, etc... but of course, Axl neglected to mention that he didn't actually talk to Slash because he sent out Beta instead. ? Why'd he do that? ?I mean, if he was interested in telling his fans the story, why not tell them the whole story? ?That's just one example.

Honestly, hats off to Ron Thal, who's gona above and beyond what's requried of him as a guitarist in GNR. ?This guy's done wonder's to repair Axl's image with the fan base, and it's just by doing his best to be courteous to his fans. ?He doesn't have to be that way. ?In fact, it'd probably be a lot easier for him to behave like the more jaded members of the band. ?Any time they open their mouths, they risk hurting their fans because Axl's whims can quickly make liars out of them. ?They've all gone on record in the past about the album coming out, last touches, mixing, "soon", etc... And while they might earnestly believe that Axl's really gonna do it this time, there's no promise. ?They've learned that lesson the hard way -- just like the fans. ?

Every time these speak to the public, they risk upsetting Axl and causing shit in the band. ?I've seen this first hand on numerous occasions. ?

Now, you might argue that the remedy for this is that they don't discuss things with fans. ?

But really... that's not normal. ?No band runs that way. ?People don't live that way.

A better solution might be for Axl and the band to stop living in this paralyzing paranoia about anything and everything. ?But for that to happen, Axl's going to have to realize that the world ins't out to destroy and betray him. ?He'll have to learn that it's possible for him to trust people outside of the compound.




But here's a larger point... Maybe fans on the internet speculate over every crumb of info they get.  But so what?  I mean, honestly?  Why should Axl or anyone in the camp give a fuck one way or another?  Axl's a fucking rock star with the world at his feet.  A bunch of losers on the internet shouldn't even be a blip on his radar.  He should have better things to do that obsess over what a bunch of nerds think about him. 


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 03:56:08 PM
But here's a larger point... Maybe fans on the internet speculate over every crumb of info they get.  But so what?  I mean, honestly?  Why should Axl or anyone in the camp give a fuck one way or another?  Axl's a fucking rock star with the world at his feet.  A bunch of losers on the internet shouldn't even be a blip on his radar.  He should have better things to do that obsess over what a bunch of nerds think about him.

well said...totally


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Bartlet on June 07, 2007, 03:57:18 PM
Every time these speak to the public, they risk upsetting Axl and causing shit in the band. ?I've seen this first hand on numerous occasions. ?



um, really? how?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Bartlet on June 07, 2007, 03:57:57 PM
But here's a larger point... Maybe fans on the internet speculate over every crumb of info they get.? But so what?? I mean, honestly?? Why should Axl or anyone in the camp give a fuck one way or another?? Axl's a fucking rock star with the world at his feet.? A bunch of losers on the internet shouldn't even be a blip on his radar.? He should have better things to do that obsess over what a bunch of nerds think about him.

well said...totally


i gotta agree with that too!


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: RnT on June 07, 2007, 04:01:49 PM
the release date is close..................... right?
 ;D


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: GeorgeSteele on June 07, 2007, 04:04:17 PM

Some great points, MGL, though I think it's unfair to say band members are silent because "Axl's whims can quickly make liars out of them". ?For all we know, there may be things entirely out of Axl's control (e.g., record company issues or legal hurdles) that make them unable to discuss when the record is coming out.




Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2007, 04:06:27 PM
dude, is something wrong with you? can you not have a discussion with someone that disagrees with you? boards are about open discussion and different points of views...we can all respond like adults..i dont get you....i think its great there are boards for fans to discuss issues about the bands they love....and its cool to read about different experiences and point of views...the boards should be about fun and not hatin.' i love you, man....


I tried to discuss with you. I asked for proof that the concerts were, as you claimed, canceled for other reasons.

I was met with remarks about bat phones and the president.


You can say what you want, but expect to be asked to show some kind of proof when you state your own opinions/speculation as facts.


Yeah, I agree.  A lot of times when the band tires to give an interview, it ends up in speculation.  But I think it's because they have to be intentionally myserious and misleading about shit.  They can't just come out and say things, though because they're cool people and equally frustrated, they try to do the best they can for the fans. 


No, I don't agree.

Many times they say things very clearly and it ends up getting turned around.

Tentative becomes a promise etc etc.




But here's a larger point... Maybe fans on the internet speculate over every crumb of info they get.  But so what?  I mean, honestly?  Why should Axl or anyone in the camp give a fuck one way or another?  Axl's a fucking rock star with the world at his feet.  A bunch of losers on the internet shouldn't even be a blip on his radar.  He should have better things to do that obsess over what a bunch of nerds think about him. 

Often these things end up in the papers and become bigger than what they seemed at the start.

What you think is just fun speculation ends up becoming the truth for others.

"I heard that...".


These things end up hurting the band and the fans. Causing false hope and confusion. Yet you wonder why anybody would care?



/jarmo


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 04:15:37 PM
Here's the problem though, man... when people have proof (or as close to proof as anyone can get) they're not allowed to post it.?

Some things we're just not allowed to discuss because Axl has a strict gag order.? Even when you can get good info from the band, or Axl himself, you're not really at liberty to discuss it.? It'll likely be wiped as a violation of the band's trust, and then you won't get any more cool inside info in the future.

It sucks.? I wish the band was just allowed to discuss the things they do -- on the road, or in the studio.? But Axl's decided that the ship must be run in a certain way.? Those are his rules.? But if you live by the sword, you die by it too.? In the absence of any concrete info from the band, Axl or the numerous people who've been privilaged to get some inside info, speculation is all we got.?


Are you still upset about your Dizzy interview?



/jarmo

Not at all, man. ?I was disappointed for the listeners that they couldn't hear all the awesome stuff word for word that I did. ?But really I just found it pathetic and hysterical that a grown rock star was afraid to talk about the band he was in. ?

This is exactly the kind of baiting I was talking about. ?I know stuff. ?You know stuff. ?Lots of people know stuff. They're just not allowed to discuss it because of Axl's issues. ?And it's a shame, because a lot of those details could really humanize Axl and show that these frustrating delays and cancellations aren't part of some grand conspiracy... it's just the product of a human being trying to deal with some very difficult issues. ?

But go ahead man... just insult me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about! ?Rock on! ?

Dizzy respects Axl, he's not afraid of him

And the reason we do not discuss 'stuff' about GN'R is because we respect Axl

Your words and assumptions are sensationalist

You can respect someone and be afraid of them too.?

My words aren't assumptions.? If you'd like to PM, I'd be happy to explain myself.? But for now, we've gotta play along with the gag order and pretend that it does Axl, his band, or his fans any good.

I'm sure you were told this, that and the other. Genuinely though, think about the situation you are putting people in asking certain questions.

Dizzy and Axl have known each other a long time, and I can fully assure you that Dizzy is not afraid of Axl.

Dizzy is a top man, he respects people for who they are and is not a bridge burner. If you don't believe me, ask anyone who knows him.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: kupirock on June 07, 2007, 04:18:22 PM
It's strange that some of you are time to time attacking jarmo, chill out and please talk these problems you have with your friends, or someone else, this is pointless, and ridiculous


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 04:18:32 PM
I don't mean he's "afraid" of Axl in the sense that he thinks Axl's gonna hurt him.

But he's realistic about the fact that Axl is something of a control freak -- which isn't a surprise to anyone, I'm sure. ?But Axl's the boss of GNR, and don't think for a second that Dizzy doesn't know it. ?Dizzy's not dumb either. ?He knows that Axl gets pissed off easily, and he wants to be careful not to step on his toes.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 04:20:54 PM
But here's a larger point... Maybe fans on the internet speculate over every crumb of info they get.? But so what?? I mean, honestly?? Why should Axl or anyone in the camp give a fuck one way or another?? Axl's a fucking rock star with the world at his feet.? A bunch of losers on the internet shouldn't even be a blip on his radar.? He should have better things to do that obsess over what a bunch of nerds think about him.

well said...totally

Axl is a rock star, but he is also human being who has family and friends who care about him

Go figure


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Pingouirose on June 07, 2007, 04:21:05 PM
I think you are wrong : Guns N' Roses is a democratic band and everyone is at the same level... if he wants to be fired  :hihi:


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 04:22:06 PM
soooo whats the status of CD mysteron?? :hihi:


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 04:27:01 PM
I don't mean he's "afraid" of Axl in the sense that he thinks Axl's gonna hurt him.

But he's realistic about the fact that Axl is something of a control freak -- which isn't a surprise to anyone, I'm sure. ?But Axl's the boss of GNR, and don't think for a second that Dizzy doesn't know it. ?Dizzy's not dumb either. ?He knows that Axl gets pissed off easily, and he wants to be careful not to step on his toes.


You are getting around to the fact that Dizzy respects Axl for who he is, but you are still throwing in loads of assumptions

We're getting there though  :hihi:


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: GNRSANDMAN on June 07, 2007, 04:27:41 PM
I don't mean he's "afraid" of Axl in the sense that he thinks Axl's gonna hurt him.

But he's realistic about the fact that Axl is something of a control freak -- which isn't a surprise to anyone, I'm sure. ?But Axl's the boss of GNR, and don't think for a second that Dizzy doesn't know it. ?Dizzy's not dumb either. ?He knows that Axl gets pissed off easily, and he wants to be careful not to step on his toes.



You forgot this is all speculation on your part and just your opinion. ? :rofl:


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 07, 2007, 04:28:32 PM
But here's a larger point... Maybe fans on the internet speculate over every crumb of info they get.? But so what?? I mean, honestly?? Why should Axl or anyone in the camp give a fuck one way or another?? Axl's a fucking rock star with the world at his feet.? A bunch of losers on the internet shouldn't even be a blip on his radar.? He should have better things to do that obsess over what a bunch of nerds think about him.

well said...totally

Axl is a rock star, but he is also human being who has family and friends who care about him

Go figure


Here's what I know... if reading the random comments of some anonymous nerds online pissed me off as much as it pisses Axl off, I'd just quit reading 'em.

Obviously, internet rumors bother Axl. ?So maybe Axl should disconnect from the internet and go do any of the awesome, amazing, fun things that a world famous, wealthy, beloved rock star could be doing with his days.

Why would someone elect to wallow in their misery like that?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 04:33:05 PM
But here's a larger point... Maybe fans on the internet speculate over every crumb of info they get.? But so what?? I mean, honestly?? Why should Axl or anyone in the camp give a fuck one way or another?? Axl's a fucking rock star with the world at his feet.? A bunch of losers on the internet shouldn't even be a blip on his radar.? He should have better things to do that obsess over what a bunch of nerds think about him.

well said...totally

Axl is a rock star, but he is also human being who has family and friends who care about him

Go figure


Here's what I know... if reading the random comments of some anonymous nerds online pissed me off as much as it pisses Axl off, I'd just quit reading 'em.

Obviously, internet rumors bother Axl. ?So maybe Axl should disconnect from the internet and go do any of the awesome, amazing, fun things that a world famous, wealthy, beloved rock star could be doing with his days.

Why would someone elect to wallow in their misery like that?

Again, you assume alot of things and you think very black and white


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: sjgotnitro on June 07, 2007, 04:37:52 PM
mysteron and Jarmo,

is there any hope to getting an update from the band on the cd status even if it does not contain a release date?

The one from months ago seems so out dated at this point. At the time of axls letter he stated they had so many weeks left or months, were months past that point with no sign of anything. ?I know stuff changes all the time.

I understand that, no problem but maybe it is time to clue the fans in again, give them some hope or something to rally around.

And I know jarmo no matter what axl or the band says there will always be people who bitch, that will not change if they give an update or not , but the majority of tha fans will be happier if they get some news.
 ?



*cough cough*

Nice post yea maybe they will comment or our great pal mysteron can put in a good word that a update would be appreciated


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: AxlFink on June 07, 2007, 04:40:52 PM
How many people on this board believe CD is coming out this year?  Just wondering.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 04:45:15 PM
mysteron and Jarmo,

is there any hope to getting an update from the band on the cd status even if it does not contain a release date?

The one from months ago seems so out dated at this point. At the time of axls letter he stated they had so many weeks left or months, were months past that point with no sign of anything. ?I know stuff changes all the time.

I understand that, no problem but maybe it is time to clue the fans in again, give them some hope or something to rally around.

And I know jarmo no matter what axl or the band says there will always be people who bitch, that will not change if they give an update or not , but the majority of tha fans will be happier if they get some news.
 ?



*cough cough*

Nice post yea maybe they will comment or our great pal mysteron can put in a good word that a update would be appreciated

Guns should just give a definitive statement when they are 100% ready, that is my opinion.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: LittleFly on June 07, 2007, 04:45:45 PM
How many people on this board believe CD is coming out this year?? Just wondering.

Personally, I think it will come out at some point. ?Trying to pin it down to a particular month or even year is worthless because things change constantly.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 04:47:11 PM
How many people on this board believe CD is coming out this year?? Just wondering.

I do


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Jackamo! on June 07, 2007, 04:47:40 PM
The recording is done, the mixing and mastering is probaly done too.

It's just taking Axl a while to decide on the album artwork. And the font for the liner notes.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 05:02:36 PM
The recording is done, the mixing and mastering is probaly done too.

It's just taking Axl a while to decide on the album artwork. And the font for the liner notes.

Axl is an artist.

I say let him do his masterpiece because he has earned the right to do so.

And however long that takes, so be it.



Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 05:02:57 PM
The recording is done, the mixing and mastering is probaly done too.

It's just taking Axl a while to decide on the album artwork. And the font for the liner notes.

when in doubt, times new roman :hihi: :rofl:


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 07, 2007, 05:03:39 PM
How many people on this board believe CD is coming out this year?? Just wondering.

I do

any particular reason?? or just you believe it will be?


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: GNRSANDMAN on June 07, 2007, 05:04:08 PM
How many people on this board believe CD is coming out this year?? Just wondering.


I guess so.....


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Nytunz on June 07, 2007, 05:04:38 PM
The recording is done, the mixing and mastering is probaly done too.

It's just taking Axl a while to decide on the album artwork. And the font for the liner notes.

i thought the albumartwork was done years ago.. Bike.. wall... gnr..


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 05:05:12 PM
How many people on this board believe CD is coming out this year?? Just wondering.

I do

any particular reason?? or just you believe it will be?

I just believe it will happen


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Verasa on June 07, 2007, 05:07:17 PM
there wasn't a snowball chance in hell that album was ever coming out last year.. we are in june and not one peep has been mentioned other than the " good news/ bad news" update this whole year. I really don't care, but i doubt GnR can play the US again without a album and I really want to see em' again this year. i don't care what setlist they bring with em'. just come back to the states...PLEASE!!!!!


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Mysteron on June 07, 2007, 05:10:15 PM
Mysteron do you know if after these scheduled gigs they have now, afterwards they will be gearing up for CD's release?

I have no idea


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Ron Jones on June 07, 2007, 05:12:46 PM
GNR is most certainly hardest band to stick around for. Some people would argue that a band like Pantera is worse because it's impossible to make that happen again. Here we are sticking by Axl's side and there's no reason why it shouldn't why it shouldn't be out and we have no explanation. FRUSTRATING!


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Verasa on June 07, 2007, 05:14:54 PM
GNR is most certainly hardest band to stick around for. Some people would argue that a band like Pantera is worse because it's impossible to make that happen again. Here we are sticking by Axl's side and there's no reason why it shouldn't why it shouldn't be out and we have no explanation. FRUSTRATING!


hey man...he thanked all of  us last year at hammerstein for sticking around all these years...what more do you want?? a album of original material.. :hihi:...don't ya' think you're asking for a little much


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: Nytunz on June 07, 2007, 05:16:50 PM
Well. I stick around with a band, for the music they have made, not for the music they are going to make.
So.. Just pump up the Volum on the illusions album, and the wait is not that hard ?: ok:


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ppbebe on June 07, 2007, 05:44:31 PM
Well. I stick around with a band, for the music they have made, not for the music they are going to make.


I'm for the music I'm going to hear, at the shows or otherwise.  :P

I won't worry if not this year but I think cd will most likely come out this year.


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I think it's because they have to be intentionally myserious and misleading about shit.

Or it's simply because some people have to be intentionally slow and misreading their words.
Those people never listen to the opinions different to theirs.
And when they are proven wrong, they go blame the band or the messenger, or both.
 
And act as if they knew what in axl's or his friends mind better than themselves and state their speculations as if those were facts.  assuming.


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on June 07, 2007, 06:56:58 PM
How many people on this board believe CD is coming out this year?? Just wondering.

im praying for sept 17th............


Title: Re: what part of the recording is done?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 12, 2007, 10:14:32 PM
Part of an article from heavymetalmusic.biz, it's dated today?  Here is the somewhat interesting part...


Then there?s the infamous Chinese Democracy. It?s been 13 years in the making, and we have yet to see the finished product. Earlier this year, I had the honor of going to the Studio At The Palms in Las Vegas, Nevada while my boyfriend?s band mixed their CD there. It?s a world class studio with a world class staff. While we were there, Axl was also there working on Chinese Democracy. Unfortunately, we never ran into him. All his stuff was set up, but he was nowhere to be found. He did have a marathon recording session the day before we arrived, and left only a half hour before we showed up for our session, but he never returned the entire time we were there. It was just odd to me that he booked the place and then never used it.

I know that a few songs from Chinese Democracy have been leaked on the internet, but I haven?t heard them yet. The recording engineer at the Studio At The Palms told us that the few tracks they worked on were pretty cool but different from what we were used to hearing. After waiting this long and building up this much anticipation, I am expecting the most amazing album that I?ve ever heard in my life. Is that what we are going to get? I have no idea.