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Title: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Red1 on May 24, 2007, 11:42:50 AM The cover feature on the new issue of Classic Rock is a GNR retrospective to tie in with 20 years of Appetite.
The main feature is 12 pages long. It is a really cool read. Mostly positive. Includes an interview with Adriana Smith (the girl 'featured' in Rocket Queen), Mike Clink, Steve Adler, Slash and Tom Zutaut. There is also a 1.5 page feature on the recent leaks, which includes a review of each track. The reviews of the tracks are very positive. They talk about the various versions of the songs that are available up to the current leaks. They name Better as the strongest track. They also note how great the buckethead outro is, and also "Axl's undeniably impressive vocal work". They also report that they have heard: Rhiad & The Bedouins Prostitute Atlas Shrugged (featuring Brian May) Silkworms and they say that apart from Silkworms they are all "excellent" and "brilliant" I don't have a scanner, but the whole mag shows GNR both current and old in a very positive light. There is obviously the predictable GNR vs VR stuff thrown in for good measure. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Axlfreek on May 24, 2007, 11:45:53 AM How have they heard prostitue ?
What the hell is Atlas Shrugged ?! Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Verasa on May 24, 2007, 11:53:55 AM can you scan it??
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Red1 on May 24, 2007, 11:57:00 AM Sorry guys, don't have a scanner.
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Grouse on May 24, 2007, 11:58:10 AM How have they heard prostitue ? What the hell is Atlas Shrugged ?! A song title that was first mentioned quite a long time ago, actually pretty cool to hear that Brain may is also doing the guitars for that track :yes: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: ppbebe on May 24, 2007, 12:26:00 PM about prostitute and atlas, maybe they are on about the old ones the RS writer heard in 1999 or so.
it's very probable that they have changed a lot since then. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: wight gunner on May 24, 2007, 12:41:26 PM http://teenink.com/Past/9899/March/Books/atlasshrugged.html or http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?action=post;topic=46342.0;num_replies=5
Atlas Shrugged, 'umm Based on the book, possible...... It seems too unlikely for a co-incidence surely. But then Axl may feel like Atlas with the World(and its baggage) on his shoulders, and has come to the conclusion "Fuck it" with a shrug of his shoulders... Interesting Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Randy Jesus on May 24, 2007, 12:59:42 PM What country is this located in, which Magazine, Which Month, What Pages...
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on May 24, 2007, 01:11:43 PM What country is this located in, which Magazine, Which Month, What Pages... We have it in the UK and it'll be the July issue. I didn't realise it was out yet. Must buy it. :yes: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Chief on May 24, 2007, 01:21:28 PM thanks for posting, i'm going to go look for this one. looks pretty interesting!
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: neon2002 on May 24, 2007, 01:51:21 PM What country is this located in, which Magazine, Which Month, What Pages... We have it in the UK and it'll be the July issue. I didn't realise it was out yet. Must buy it.? :yes: Is this the website for the magazine? http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/ ??? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Grouse on May 24, 2007, 01:59:57 PM Oh and the classic rock article has been scanned and posted over at mygnr, I'm to lazy to copy and paste all the links so someone else is gonna have to do it? ;)
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: cuddergnr on May 24, 2007, 02:33:26 PM thanks alot :drool:
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: FortusGNR21 on May 24, 2007, 03:04:19 PM Thats awesome! I always saw Classic Rock as a magazine that would really appreciate and support Chinese Democracy! Looks like I wasn't wrong! : ok:
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Calcy on May 24, 2007, 03:54:31 PM 'scheduled to be released sometime before the death of the universe' LOL!!!
But I wil be buying the magazine within the hour if it is in Tesco. So does this mean the other tracks 'hoarded' are Atlas Shrugged, Silkworms, Rhiad and Prostitute? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: LunsJail on May 24, 2007, 04:16:37 PM Are we not still missing some GNR info from this article (Rocket Queen speaks!!)? If anybody has a link, that would be great. Thanks!! :beer:
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on May 24, 2007, 05:13:49 PM have i missed somthing or is there not 1 pic of fortus n the lads. i know it about appetite but at least plug the new guys now for future reference coz they r gonna be around in a pretty BIG way : ok:
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: mrlee on May 24, 2007, 07:44:01 PM What country is this located in, which Magazine, Which Month, What Pages... We have it in the UK and it'll be the July issue. I didn't realise it was out yet. Must buy it. :yes: agreed i shall too, ever since that big ass steve tyler/joe perry articles that i bought in the easter holidays classic rock has become my new mag to read when i can get it. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: bazgnr on May 24, 2007, 09:08:00 PM For me, the coolest part is learning that Axl warmed up to Queensryche's "The Needle Lies." Pretty calculated, that is.
Where's the part about hearing new tracks? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: jarmo on May 24, 2007, 09:25:21 PM Where's the part about hearing new tracks? Well, since we don't discuss those here..... /jarmo Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: flicknn on May 24, 2007, 09:44:18 PM Where's the part about hearing new tracks? Well, since we don't discuss those here..... /jarmo lol, everything Axl does is a mystery , or treated like one here at htgth Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Drew on May 24, 2007, 09:46:00 PM Thank you for scanning the article.
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: GNRreunioneventually on May 24, 2007, 11:46:23 PM yeah thanks can't wait to actually read the entire article when it comes out in july. :beer:
its almost leaks is turning to a bad word around here. its like sex in the 1800s you don't say it and you don't think or talk about it :rofl: :peace: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: leila on May 25, 2007, 04:49:50 AM Thanks for the article!!!I hope I'll find this magazine in Italy on July..
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: elevendayempire on May 25, 2007, 05:01:47 AM Where's the part about hearing new tracks? Well, since we don't discuss those here..... /jarmo SG Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: DeN on May 25, 2007, 05:46:21 AM what ?? Guns N'Roses made music ? :hihi:
hmm this article looks interesting, thx for the scans. some pictures i've never seen before, too. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: waxlrick on May 25, 2007, 05:54:16 AM Where's the part about hearing new tracks? Well, since we don't discuss those here..... /jarmo Ha. We don't "discuss it here". Yet it can be published in a magazine and played by the band live.......... Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Red1 on May 25, 2007, 06:15:00 AM yeah thanks can't wait to actually read the entire article when it comes out in july. :beer: its almost leaks is turning to a bad word around here. its like sex in the 1800s you don't say it and you don't think or talk about it :rofl: :peace: The magazine is on general sale next week. Subscribers have it now. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: bazgnr on May 25, 2007, 06:44:50 AM Where's the part about hearing new tracks? Well, since we don't discuss those here..... /jarmo Ah yes. Whatever was I thinking? :peace: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on May 25, 2007, 07:04:27 AM yeah thanks can't wait to actually read the entire article when it comes out in july. :beer: its almost leaks is turning to a bad word around here. its like sex in the 1800s you don't say it and you don't think or talk about it :rofl: :peace: The magazine is on general sale next week.? Subscribers have it now. That would be why I couldn't find it in the shops. Those subscribing bastards! Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: TheRaven on May 25, 2007, 10:48:17 AM Where's the part about hearing new tracks? Well, since we don't discuss those here..... /jarmo Raven Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: jarmo on May 25, 2007, 10:51:56 AM What's the truth?
Are you the one who's telling the truth? Do you think Classic Rock magazine is the official source of the truth? We don't discuss the leaks for several reasons and if some magazine wants to sell some extra copies by mentioning them, that's unfortunate. Doesn't mean we have to discuss it. /jarmo Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Teapot on May 25, 2007, 11:10:48 AM Can't talk about leaked tracks?
This site is pathetic. At ChineseDemocracy.com people are free to talk about what they want. It's interesting and a free flowing exhange. Here you can talk about...ummmm...not sure. There are so few new topics because every subject is banned. Oh wait, I got it. Let's talk about "If Apetite was made into a movie who would play Mr. Brownstone?" That's a good one. Or how about "Who's awesomer? Axl or an Axl who is two inches taller than the real Axl?" Yeah. These are all real solid topics for HTGH. Other site discuss the leaked tracks. Here people talk about, "If Axl was an astronaut do you think he'd rock the universe?" This site is a kiss-ass corporate piece of shit. And yeah Jarmo, I know, I can leave. This is your site. Axl knows what's best. He's the boss. Doesn't owe us anything. We're lucky to be blessed with his infinite majesty. Blah, blah, blah. It's all so fucking lame. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: greendog on May 25, 2007, 11:12:13 AM We don't discuss the leaks for several reasons and if some magazine wants to sell some extra copies by mentioning them, that's unfortunate. Doesn't mean we have to discuss it. Believe me, im not trying to be a 'smart ass' or an annoying fuck but you dont have to discuss it if you dont want. But if something has been published about the leaks and they are giving a seeming positive review of it, then it would be nice to have the oportunity to discuss it. I know i could wait for the magazine to be shipped but if a part of the article is alowed and another part isnt then i think thats a little retarded and unfair. just my opinion. please dont shit on me. I dont really like having to apologise in advance for posts that express my opinion in a certain subject matter to an admin/moderator. I just want to make it clear that I dont wanna cause shit and get another - point. Ta. Can't talk about leaked tracks? This site is pathetic. At ChineseDemocracy.com people are free to talk about what they want. It's interesting and a free flowing exhange. Here you can talk about...ummmm...not sure. There are so few new topics because every subject is banned. Oh wait, I got it. Let's talk about "If Apetite was made into a movie who would play Mr. Brownstone?" That's a good one. Or how about "Who's awesomer? Axl or an Axl who is two inches taller than the real Axl?" Yeah. These are all real solid topics for HTGH. Other site discuss the leaked tracks. Here people talk about, "If Axl was an astronaut do you think he'd rock the universe?" This site is a kiss-ass corporate piece of shit. And yeah Jarmo, I know, I can leave. This is your site. Axl knows what's best. He's the boss. Doesn't owe us anything. We're lucky to be blessed with his infinite majesty. Blah, blah, blah. It's all so fucking lame. i dont get it.... youve been around for a whole 9 posts and you just start shit. try not to be so confrontational and willing to get yourself banned and the place might get better for you. personally i love the forum and i can respect the rules. either that, or you're already a member who has a high post count and doesnt want to get that account banned so youve made a 'cover up' account? if so, then thats a bit chicken shit dont you think? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: jarmo on May 25, 2007, 11:20:55 AM This site is pathetic. At ChineseDemocracy.com people are free to talk about what they want. People are free to do a lot of things on other sites. We have standards and rules. We're not a sandbox. Not saying other sites are sandboxes, but that's always been my aim. Not to have stupid fights, pointless speculation, spread negativity, to respect the band and its members. If that's too much for you to deal with, I'm glad you found some other site to post at. /jarmo Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: LunsJail on May 25, 2007, 12:27:05 PM Anyways........thanx for scanning that article, it's the best I've read for awhile. A great look at the amazing spirit of GNR in those early days. And I'm surprised no one has mentioned how cute Adriana is. Finally a face to put with Rocket Queen!! ;D
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: jaknudsen on May 25, 2007, 07:01:18 PM Not to have stupid fights I can't see how showing and talking about a magazine article concerning the new songs will lead to fights, but following this tread it is obvious how NOT being allowed to talk about it leads to stupid fights. pointless speculation I think a lot of the members here are more knowledgeable than some magazine when it comes to the new tracks, so being able to discuss as mentioned above will probably debunk some of the speculation made by Classic Rock. spread negativity I thought Classic Rock's reviews of the new tracks were favourable? to respect the band and its members How will a favourable review of the new band by an acclaimed magazine lead to disrespect of the band and/or members, more than any other discussion concerning the new band? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Limulus on May 25, 2007, 07:26:01 PM ^^
"Here Today...Gone To Acoustic Shows" Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: nyd on May 25, 2007, 08:04:31 PM Thanks for posting.
@Jarmo ~ Are you not worried about someone from Classic Rock magazine seeing this and having your site shut down? They could be mighty pissed off at you for allowing users to share the whole article :-\ Apparently Izzys new album is mentioned in the magazine this month too so Im waiting for someone to scan that :rofl: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: jarmo on May 25, 2007, 09:14:57 PM "Here Today...Gone To Acoustic Shows" Jealous? ::) By the way, it was one show and there was a bunch of fellow fans who were there. I guess they all run GN'R sites like I do since they were at the same show? ::) jaknudsen, I thought you'd be able to see the difference between what I consider our standards and this article. I listed why this board is different from other places you might visit. /jarmo Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: daviebuckethead on May 25, 2007, 09:41:42 PM i would post somehting witty, maybe even funny.
but its 3 am im drunk and cant be fucked! i just read this thread and all the bs thats involved on this board washed over me! man its just so sad! Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: MATT-A-REAL-FAN on May 25, 2007, 11:43:54 PM ? Dear friends and fellow GNR fans, I have looked at this site only periodically since we received the letter from Axl in December, figuring there'd be nothing substantial to be said for a good while from us fans and from the band, until the album was close to release and/or a single would come out. ? Since then, and for awhile before actually, this board deteriorated into one man's obsession with control and it quite simple isNO LONGER FUN. I originally came here for that reason. I came here because it was FUN. The old board I went to "mygnr.com" became zero fun and I bagged that as a result. The fun here ended a long time ago and has gotten worse whenever I would check in and see what was being discussed and speculated upon. It seems like the second part of that was disintegrated. There is NO more speculation allowed, which to me is very odd considering this is not the official website for Guns N' Roses. This is a message board for fans of said band who should have the right to discuss topics that are considered "off limits" or the usual banter of opinions. Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Now, I will cut you to the quick, because I expect some juvenile response from you in the shape of "If you don't like it , go somewhere else" , the ever popular "It's MY board, it's MY rules" or the "Go start your own board if you don't like it here" standard response that I've read on here ad nauseum to the point that my eyes have rolled completely back into my sockets and out again. The last straw for me was your decision to not include the scanned pages of Classic Rock magazine where they discussed the leaks to date and gave their OPINION on how they sound and what they might be about. This is a respected publication doing something that is forbidden here......discussing and speculating. And in a favorable light I might add, but regardless of their tone or comments, we fans should be able to read them and discuss the issues at hand. These leaked songs, no matter what stage of completion they are in or who is responsible for leaking them, are indeed REAL, cannot be ignored and we should be FREE to discuss them because THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS BAND!!!!!! I care not start my own board but, I will go somewhere else ( a few really - already have) and that is where I've been since December. At these fan sites, I found the links to these downloadable,"forbidden" leaks and have enjoyed them immensely and have shared them with others that I believe would also like to hear them. I respect the rule to not post links,etc. but....to not even allow people the basic freedom of discussing something that they love and celebrate is not only abhorrent but intolerable. I've always said that Guns N' Roses are my all-time favorite band and I support this band and Axl himself, as he is a personal hero of mine. I will buy Chinese Democracy no matter when it comes out (Hell, I'm probably gonna buy 2 on Day One.) and no matter how long it takes. None of this has never changed. What has changed is this board and it is NO LONGER FUN. ? ?Fuck you Jarmo. May we never meet. ? ? ? ?GNR FOREVER!! ? ? ? MATT A REAL FAN Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Genesis on May 26, 2007, 01:10:05 AM Nice article.
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: D on May 26, 2007, 01:20:23 AM WOW can u imagine this track listing.
Talk about greatest album of all time 1.Jungle 2.Its So Easy 3.Nightrain 4.Out Ta Get me 5. Brownstone 6. Paradise City 7.Dont Cry 8. My Michelle 9. Patience 10.Sweet Child O Mine 11.Rocket Queen 12. November Rain WOWWWWWWWWW talk about beating Micheal Jackson's Thriller album in sales. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: estebanf on May 26, 2007, 01:22:49 AM well... all I can say is that I understand both Jarmo and the poster above (Matt the real fan).
Jarmo may be absolutely tired of the same pointless speculation day after day after day, and he's the one that has to erase one million posts per day, because there are a lot of assholes that know nothing but speculate, spread bullshit rumours and turn almost every thread into a GNR/VR fight. A lot of people decides to believe everything they read instead of focusing/believing what Guns N' Roses say. And I also have the sensation that there are lots of non strictly GNR fans posting in this forum; a lot of people that dont feel the need to read the rules, and a lot of people that dont want to understand that this forum is HIS forum, and he rules it the way he wants, the way he thinks is the more proper. At the other hand, I agree with the poster above that, in the last 2 months, there is almost NOTHING to discuss about Guns N' Roses in this forum. While we are waiting for the start of the world tour, and considering the last ''leak-incident'', if we dont have the band touring, we dont have any updates, and we are unable to discuss the new (unfinished, but still new for us) music... then, at this exactly moment, we almost have nothing to discuss I absolutely agree with the staff's desicion of not posting links to the leaked demos. I also agree with deleting the speculative threads, deleting pointless posts, and terminating with the old and boring GNR Vs. VR childish fight. But honestly, I think that forbidding the discussion about the leaked demos (just that: discussing) is too much. Because they're there, they are real, they cant be ignored, basically because they rock very hard, and there's almost an absolut consense about that. All the GNR fans, or at least the biggest majority, is extremely excited with this new music, and the expectations for the CD are EVEN BIGGER than before, after these leaks. Anyway, I dont think that insulting the administrator is a smart move, and I also think its kinda ungrateful. I will stay in this (amazing) forum, I will keep waiting for the album, no matter how much time, and I hope that the start of the world tour brings a fresher air to this message board. Just my two cents, and forgive my shitty english. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Apollon on May 26, 2007, 01:43:12 AM Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Not to start a discussion but this attitude is why America has no reputation in the world anymore. You think you are free? Sure... What the fuck doyou believe, man? In Europe, there is no elcetricity, Hitler is still alive and we have no democracy? Hell, democracy was invented in Europe. Scandinavia, Germany, France, Italy are all democracies and yeah there is the right of freedom and there is actual freedom here. We can say whatever we want to, we can do whatever we want to do, unless it doesn't hurt constitution. So what's the difference between US and Europe? So much BS you spread. Don't you have a "Home Security Service" which hurts human rights and lessens freedom just to protect the country? Don't you have Guantnamo Bay, where are NO human rights? Think about and then (if ever) come back! And something you should know: A Message board is no state and it's no democracy. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: D on May 26, 2007, 01:51:30 AM When the album is released if Jarmo STILL doesn't let us talk about the songs, Ill get worried, Until then he is doing what he feels is right.
I have visited some of those other sites and a lot of those sites are straight garbage. I havent visited them all but the only ones I can endorse as being good GNR sites are: This one of course Roses of velvet GNRstrip GNR2k I think it is Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: bodine on May 26, 2007, 01:54:25 AM ? Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Not to start? a discussion but this attitude is why America has no reputation in the world anymore. You think you are free? Sure... What the fuck doyou believe, man? In Europe, there is no elcetricity, Hitler is still alive and we have no democracy? Hell, democracy was invented in Europe. Scandinavia, Germany, France, Italy are all democracies and yeah there is the right of freedom and there is actual freedom here. We can say whatever we want to, we can do whatever we want to do, unless it doesn't hurt constitution. So what's the difference between US and Europe? So much BS you spread. Don't you have a "Home Security Service" which hurts human rights and lessens freedom just to protect the country? Don't you have Guantnamo Bay, where are NO human rights? Think about and then (if ever) come back! And something you should know: A Message board is no state and it's no democracy. Don't take the ramblings of one guy and turn it into an excuse to slam our country! ?But my comment is not to contradict you, it is to make a point about Jarmo - which is simply that people take him to be a "yes man" for the band, when in fact what he does is what he has to do in order to get us that little bit of extra information that not everyone else is privy to. ?The world - including the Internet - is a political one, and if you intend on getting anywhere you need to know how to play the game! ?I may not always like it, but I for one appreciate what Jarmo really does for us all. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: estebanf on May 26, 2007, 01:58:11 AM Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Not to start a discussion but this attitude is why America has no reputation in the world anymore. You think you are free? Sure... What the fuck doyou believe, man? In Europe, there is no elcetricity, Hitler is still alive and we have no democracy? Hell, democracy was invented in Europe. Scandinavia, Germany, France, Italy are all democracies and yeah there is the right of freedom and there is actual freedom here. We can say whatever we want to, we can do whatever we want to do, unless it doesn't hurt constitution. So what's the difference between US and Europe? So much BS you spread. Don't you have a "Home Security Service" which hurts human rights and lessens freedom just to protect the country? Don't you have Guantnamo Bay, where are NO human rights? Think about and then (if ever) come back! And something you should know: A Message board is no state and it's no democracy. yes. I also thought the same when I read that ''since you're not an American'' comment. I am from Argentina, southamerica, one of the countries in the ''3rd world bag'', and we also have a full working democracy . Some people think that the world is ''USA'' and ''the rest of the world''... anyway, this doesnt have anything to do with the topic. Quote When the album is released if Jarmo STILL doesn't let us talk about the songs, Ill get worried, Until then he is doing what he feels is right. I have visited some of those other sites and a lot of those sites are straight garbage. All I know is Jarmo will need looooong vacations once the CD is finally out :hihi: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: stolat on May 26, 2007, 02:00:24 AM well... all I can say is that I understand both Jarmo and the poster above (Matt the real fan). Jarmo may be absolutely tired of the same pointless speculation day after day after day, and he's the one that has to erase one million posts per day, because there are a lot of assholes that know nothing but speculate, spread bullshit rumours and turn almost every thread into a GNR/VR fight. A lot of people decides to believe everything they read instead of focusing/believing what Guns N' Roses say. And I also have the sensation that there are lots of non strictly GNR fans posting in this forum; a lot of people that dont feel the need to read the rules, and a lot of people that dont want to understand that this forum is HIS forum, and he rules it the way he wants, the way he thinks is the more proper. At the other hand, I agree with the poster above that, in the last 2 months, there is almost NOTHING to discuss about Guns N' Roses in this forum. While we are waiting for the start of the world tour, and considering the last ''leak-incident'', if we dont have the band touring, we dont have any updates, and we are unable to discuss the new (unfinished, but still new for us) music... then, at this exactly moment, we almost have nothing to discuss I absolutely agree with the staff's desicion of not posting links to the leaked demos. I also agree with deleting the speculative threads, deleting pointless posts, and terminating with the old and boring GNR Vs. VR childish fight. But honestly, I think that forbidding the discussion about the leaked demos (just that: discussing) is too much. Because they're there, they are real, they cant be ignored, basically because they rock very hard, and there's almost an absolut consense about that. All the GNR fans, or at least the biggest majority, is extremely excited with this new music, and the expectations for the CD are EVEN BIGGER than before, after these leaks. Anyway, I dont think that insulting the administrator is a smart move, and I also think its kinda ungrateful. I will stay in this (amazing) forum, I will keep waiting for the album, no matter how much time, and I hope that the start of the world tour brings a fresher air to this message board. Just my two cents, and forgive my shitty english. Again, well said Estebanf! This is indeed an amazing forum! My thoughts have never been so stimulated like this before! Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Skeletor on May 26, 2007, 06:46:34 AM We don't discuss the leaks for several reasons A year ago it was OK to discuss the leaks... since then, from my point of view, not much has changed really. Is the only reason for all this the fact that you're just tired of deleting the posts of people who are asking for the leaks? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: gunns1 on May 26, 2007, 07:20:39 AM We don't discuss the leaks for several reasons A year ago it was OK to discuss the leaks... since then, from my point of view, not much has changed really. Is the only reason for all this the fact that you're just tired of deleting the posts of people who are asking for the leaks? My point Exactly, not to have a direct go at Jarmo, though, but they played all the new leaks/old leaks on Tour last year except for 1 leak (catcher) and yet, you can go on one of the biggest sites in the world (youtube) and find everything their, but this being a gnr board, we are not allowed to talk about the leaks in anyway, but we can say how great a gnr show was last year ,and how much the new gnr songs at the show kicked ass? Jarmo, out of curiosity, mabye you might need to make the rules clearer, considering theirs many people on this board that are confused. Are we allowed to talk about the new songs at the concerts, or arent we allowed to talk about the new leaks of the new songs that have been played at the old concerts. Or are we only allowed to talk about the old songs, theirfore, this site isn't really dedicated to the new guns n roses is it? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: DeN on May 26, 2007, 07:20:56 AM please stay in topic. we talk about a Classic Rock article, not specifically about the leaks.
i would like to talk about them too, but well, i suppose if some guys here had a different attitude, it could be possible. anyway, i would like to find the scans in hi res, i'm old and i can't read it on these scans :hihi: an url someone ? thx in advance. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: stolat on May 26, 2007, 07:51:15 AM We don't discuss the leaks for several reasons A year ago it was OK to discuss the leaks... since then, from my point of view, not much has changed really. Is the only reason for all this the fact that you're just tired of deleting the posts of people who are asking for the leaks? My point Exactly, not to have a direct go at Jarmo, though, but they played all the new leaks/old leaks on Tour last year except for 1 leak (catcher) and yet, you can go on one of the biggest sites in the world (youtube) and find everything their, but this being a gnr board, we are not allowed to talk about the leaks in anyway, but we can say how great a gnr show was last year ,and how much the new gnr songs at the show kicked ass? Jarmo, out of curiosity, mabye you might need to make the rules clearer, considering theirs many people on this board that are confused. Are we allowed to talk about the new songs at the concerts, or arent we allowed to talk about the new leaks of the new songs that have been played at the old concerts. Or are we only allowed to talk about the old songs, theirfore, this site isn't really dedicated to the new guns n roses is it? Perhaps, use your discretion. On this site, it should be obvious which posters have a genuine interest in music and the band and which posters are here to make a quick buck. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: judaskennedy on May 26, 2007, 09:25:34 AM We don't discuss the leaks for several reasons A year ago it was OK to discuss the leaks... since then, from my point of view, not much has changed really. Is the only reason for all this the fact that you're just tired of deleting the posts of people who are asking for the leaks? My point Exactly, not to have a direct go at Jarmo, though, but they played all the new leaks/old leaks on Tour last year except for 1 leak (catcher) and yet, you can go on one of the biggest sites in the world (youtube) and find everything their, but this being a gnr board, we are not allowed to talk about the leaks in anyway, but we can say how great a gnr show was last year ,and how much the new gnr songs at the show kicked ass? Jarmo, out of curiosity, mabye you might need to make the rules clearer, considering theirs many people on this board that are confused. Are we allowed to talk about the new songs at the concerts, or arent we allowed to talk about the new leaks of the new songs that have been played at the old concerts. Or are we only allowed to talk about the old songs, theirfore, this site isn't really dedicated to the new guns n roses is it? Perhaps, use your discretion. On this site, it should be obvious which posters have a genuine interest in music and the band and which posters are here to make a quick buck. who makes bucks here??? i want to make some.... Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: wight gunner on May 26, 2007, 11:10:48 AM Just adding my two pennth here.? I take on board Matts comments and to a large degree agree with him.? It does seem that since the leaks and the stuff that went down with them the policy has become more rigid. From that episode, it would seem Jarmo has influence, or certainly a role in the future of the band, as a lot of the disagreement pointed to him not working with somebody else, thats my take on it anyhow.
I know Beta posts on here and I suspect that Axl at least reads whats been said etc and will know the mood of fans regarding CD and its release.? With this in mind, has the time come for the GNR management and co to offer the forum "Guns n' Roses approved" status?? The reason for this being suggested is that it will draw a line about whats acceptable and not.? Discussing a magazine article is one thing, publishing it is another, yet the one that the law is being flouted is still here. ??? Its called copyright infringement.? Now the band, or Beta or Jarmo or anybody else connected with Guns n' Roses, might say (and they'd be right) what about the copyright of the material being leaked!? You should be more careful who has access to your master tapes or whatever! Those mag articles are in the public domain, and as mentioned earlier as are the leaks on youtube, its not our (the fans) fault this is the case! I like others have had post deleted, "Where is Axl Rose" clip on Youtube was my deletion, and I'd guess this post will be another, but chill out fellas, learn to laugh AT YOURSELVES. From where I'm sitting the sniggering thats going on now, on here, will turn to the laughter the rest of the world has been until now being directing at the band and those who've stuck by them. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: estrangedpaul on May 26, 2007, 11:29:11 AM What's the truth? Are you the one who's telling the truth? Do you think Classic Rock magazine is the official source of the truth? We don't discuss the leaks for several reasons and if some magazine wants to sell some extra copies by mentioning them, that's unfortunate. Doesn't mean we have to discuss it. /jarmo I believe Classic Rock is a good source of the truth. As for discussion of the leaked tracks, I'd be more worried if a Classic Rock magazine didn't talk about them, regardless of whether they make money or not, its important news for classic rock fans. They presumably haven't been told not to talk about them, and even have access to tracks nobody else has, thus presumably the gained from official sources. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: ppbebe on May 26, 2007, 12:17:40 PM Thanks for scanning and posting. it's nice to see the feature on GNR.
I hear GNR articles always help the sales of those magazines. As for the contents of the article, I know I'm in the minority but personally I'm not very impressed. the competition is dull. I don't need to be told what music or what band is better. one thing new to us in there is a bloody 20 year old gossip. I wonder why the hell now and not then? What has changed is this board and it is NO LONGER FUN. Fuck you Jarmo. May we never meet. So you go to a party at someone's home and you're requested not to do a few particular things at there and then you say fuck you to the host ? Is it an accepted standard in America or just your idea of democracy? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Ines_rocks! on May 26, 2007, 12:41:17 PM does any1 knows when the magazine comes out worldwide?
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: cyllan on May 26, 2007, 03:36:22 PM Thanks for scanning and posting. it's nice to see the feature on GNR. I hear GNR articles always help the sales of those magazines. As for the contents of the article, I know I'm in the minority but personally I'm not very impressed. the competition is dull. I don't need to be told what music or what band is better. one thing new to us in there is a bloody 20 year old gossip. I wonder why the hell now and not then? You can add me to that minority, ppbebe. I consider Classic Rock one of the greenest magazines around due to their love of recycling old GNR interviews whenever the opportunity arises. ;D In fact, I have two of their previous efforts in front of me right now: Jan 2002 - "Madman? Messiah? Misunderstood? Inside the lonely mixed-up world of W. Axl Rose" Featuring an extract from Mick Wall's (editor of the mag at that stage) last ever interview with Axl in Jan 1990. The full interview is in his book, The Most Dangerous Band etc. and will no doubt be dredged up once again in his latest book, in order to squeeze a few more quid from his former connection with GNR. May 2004 - "Guns N' Roses - The Band That Refuses To Die" On the eve of the release of VR's album, Classic Rock used the opportunity to put Axl on the front cover and feature a re-run of Rolling Stone's Kim Neely interview from 1992. Wall having now become editor-in-chief I think that was the last time I bought a copy and I can't see me buying this latest tabloid-style rehash either. Although I would like to thank the person who scanned it for the good laugh I got out of seeing the publicity shot of VR; five middle-aged (or thereabouts) men doing their best hard men pose whilst looking as well-scrubbed as a group of boy scouts. ;D To Matt-a-real(hmm)-fan, I'd like to say thanks but no thanks for posting your self-indulgent whinge in a totally inappropriate section of the board. I read it in the hope that you'd have something to say that'd be relevant to the topic of the thread, but sadly no. >:( And to Jarmo, a sincere thank you for not allowing discussion about the leaks. : ok: I haven't heard them, don't want to, and don't wish to read about them either. I want CD to be as fresh and full of surprises as possible and reading comments, that would invariably crop up in all manner of threads, (before I'm told just to avoid those threads) would be worse than reading spoilers for 24. So, to be able to wander freely in a leak-free board suits me just fine. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: slashsbaconpit on May 26, 2007, 04:26:02 PM Sorry, but I have to agree with the people who want to be able to discuss the leaked tracks. It's not our fault they were leaked. We'll be the first ones in line to buy the album or concert tickets, no matter what is leaked. The only people going to the trouble of tracking down the leaks are the one who will buy the album anyway. The leaks are costing GNR nothing financially at this point. If the album was actually in stores, and someone had uploaded the whole thing from free, then it could start costing some bucks, but a few tracks that may or may not be finished isn't going to hurt the money flow - unless the band is afraid people aren't going to like the new stuff.
But adopting a policy of not discussing leaks here because it might make Uncle Axl mad is stupid. The last I checked, this isn't 1939, and GNR fandom isn't run by the Nazi party. It's a legitimate topic of discussion and debate among fans to discuss leaks. Since these leaks are not the "final product," maybe GNR could use the discussion on this board to finalize their mix. Like when someone says that track X has too much studio synth shit in it and not enough actual music, or track Y is perfect, that kind of thing. You know, I love their music, but GNR could save themselves a lot of problem with leaks by just releasing the damn album they've been talking about for the past nine years. I'm begining to think the only songs we'll ever hear from it will be from Internet leaks and occasional bootlegs of concerts. That's why a lot of fans are downloading this stuff. They don't have any hope of hearing it any other way. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on May 26, 2007, 05:44:42 PM does any1 knows when the magazine comes out worldwide? I think round about the beginning of June. At least in the UK, I'm not sure about other parts of the world. About Matt the Real Fan's comments, I agree with some of them (I guess the "fuck you" etc. was unnecessary) and at least he was clear and made a coherent statement. I see he's now a Guest and not a member. :hihi: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Gargh! on May 26, 2007, 05:45:45 PM I can see why Jarmo might not want people to discuss the leaks, but the fact that some of the songs have been played live would inidacte to me the the band aren't keeping it all as under wraps as Jarmo is.
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: BillBailey on May 26, 2007, 08:18:52 PM Prostitute and Atlas Shrugged....... :drool: Sound a lot like other heard tracks in style and scope....... :drool:
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: gummyfish on May 26, 2007, 09:13:03 PM Nice article. ur right. Matt-a-real-fan posted a nice article. :hihi: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Verasa on May 26, 2007, 11:04:55 PM Prostitute and Atlas Shrugged....... :drool: Sound a lot like other heard tracks in style and scope....... :drool: I heard a 38 second supposed clip of what is titled as prostitue.. it sounded different than the other leaks Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Randy Jesus on May 26, 2007, 11:10:11 PM Dear friends and fellow GNR fans, I have looked at this site only periodically since we received the letter from Axl in December, figuring there'd be nothing substantial to be said for a good while from us fans and from the band, until the album was close to release and/or a single would come out. Since then, and for awhile before actually, this board deteriorated into one man's obsession with control and it quite simple isNO LONGER FUN. I originally came here for that reason. I came here because it was FUN. The old board I went to "mygnr.com" became zero fun and I bagged that as a result. The fun here ended a long time ago and has gotten worse whenever I would check in and see what was being discussed and speculated upon. It seems like the second part of that was disintegrated. There is NO more speculation allowed, which to me is very odd considering this is not the official website for Guns N' Roses. This is a message board for fans of said band who should have the right to discuss topics that are considered "off limits" or the usual banter of opinions. Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Now, I will cut you to the quick, because I expect some juvenile response from you in the shape of "If you don't like it , go somewhere else" , the ever popular "It's MY board, it's MY rules" or the "Go start your own board if you don't like it here" standard response that I've read on here ad nauseum to the point that my eyes have rolled completely back into my sockets and out again. The last straw for me was your decision to not include the scanned pages of Classic Rock magazine where they discussed the leaks to date and gave their OPINION on how they sound and what they might be about. This is a respected publication doing something that is forbidden here......discussing and speculating. And in a favorable light I might add, but regardless of their tone or comments, we fans should be able to read them and discuss the issues at hand. These leaked songs, no matter what stage of completion they are in or who is responsible for leaking them, are indeed REAL, cannot be ignored and we should be FREE to discuss them because THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS BAND!!!!!! I care not start my own board but, I will go somewhere else ( a few really - already have) and that is where I've been since December. At these fan sites, I found the links to these downloadable,"forbidden" leaks and have enjoyed them immensely and have shared them with others that I believe would also like to hear them. I respect the rule to not post links,etc. but....to not even allow people the basic freedom of discussing something that they love and celebrate is not only abhorrent but intolerable. I've always said that Guns N' Roses are my all-time favorite band and I support this band and Axl himself, as he is a personal hero of mine. I will buy Chinese Democracy no matter when it comes out (Hell, I'm probably gonna buy 2 on Day One.) and no matter how long it takes. None of this has never changed. What has changed is this board and it is NO LONGER FUN. Fuck you Jarmo. May we never meet. GNR FOREVER!! MATT A REAL FAN If you can't handle the most dangerous game of dungeons N dragons ever... don't let the door hit you in the ass... Dork! dangerous game of dungeons N dragons ever, refers to the fact people like Matt have no common sense or sense of reality. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: metallex78 on May 26, 2007, 11:27:27 PM They name Better as the strongest track.? They also note how great the buckethead outro is, and also "Axl's undeniably impressive vocal work". Bucket plays an outro on Better? I thought he just plays the middle shred solo bit before the "I never wanted you to be so full of anger" part? Robin plays the solo at 3:40 and the other lead guitar bits until the end of the song, I know that much from seeing live vids. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: The Dog on May 27, 2007, 12:24:43 AM Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Not to start a discussion but this attitude is why America has no reputation in the world anymore. You think you are free? Sure... What the fuck doyou believe, man? In Europe, there is no elcetricity, Hitler is still alive and we have no democracy? Hell, democracy was invented in Europe. Scandinavia, Germany, France, Italy are all democracies and yeah there is the right of freedom and there is actual freedom here. We can say whatever we want to, we can do whatever we want to do, unless it doesn't hurt constitution. So what's the difference between US and Europe? So much BS you spread. Don't you have a "Home Security Service" which hurts human rights and lessens freedom just to protect the country? Don't you have Guantnamo Bay, where are NO human rights? Think about and then (if ever) come back! And something you should know: A Message board is no state and it's no democracy. so one american posts something retarded and suddenly the entire country thinks the same way as he does? ::) God how boring. on topic, this article looks amazing, will def have to pick this issue up. hard to believe its been 20 years. god i'm old ;) Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Red1 on May 27, 2007, 06:58:47 AM They name Better as the strongest track.? They also note how great the buckethead outro is, and also "Axl's undeniably impressive vocal work". Bucket plays an outro on Better? I thought he just plays the middle shred solo bit before the "I never wanted you to be so full of anger" part? Robin plays the solo at 3:40 and the other lead guitar bits until the end of the song, I know that much from seeing live vids. Sorry, that part was referring to TWAT Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Steve McKagan on May 27, 2007, 08:56:42 AM Is this available all over the world? Or do we have to wait some in Sweden?
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on May 27, 2007, 09:37:44 AM Is this available all over the world? Or do we have to wait some in Sweden? According to Wikipedia, they sell it all over Europe, so I wouldn't iamgine you'd have to wait too long. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: slashsbaconpit on May 27, 2007, 12:55:55 PM If you can't handle the most dangerous game of dungeons N dragons ever... don't let the door hit you in the ass... Dork! dangerous game of dungeons N dragons ever, refers to the fact people like Matt have no common sense or sense of reality. What? That doesn't even make any sense. All he was saying is that the fact that we're not allowed to speculate and talk about certain actual developments with GNR on the board makes it lame. It's a fair comment. Dungeons n dragons? What are you? A 12-year-old stuck in a 1980s timewarp? There seems to be a lot ass kissing on this board for no reason. What will anyone get out of it? More topics like "How did GNR change your life?" Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: ppbebe on May 27, 2007, 02:09:24 PM Why are you so eager to talk about certain things in here? on the probably sole board that requires you not to bring them up?
Has this board ever told you not to do whatever at other places? I don't think so. But adopting a policy of not discussing leaks here because it might make Uncle Axl mad is stupid. The last I checked, this isn't 1939, and GNR fandom isn't run by the Nazi party. It's a legitimate topic of discussion and debate among fans to discuss leaks. how you know whether jarmo thinks the discussion might make Uncle Axl mad? stating your speculation for fact is stupid. Basically to discuss them, you got to hear the subjects in question first. This board doesn't recommend dling anything illegal/ against the author's will. So where's the double standard? You can add me to that minority, ppbebe. I consider Classic Rock one of the greenest magazines around due to their love of recycling old GNR interviews whenever the opportunity arises. ;D In fact, I have two of their previous efforts in front of me right now: Jan 2002 - "Madman? Messiah? Misunderstood? Inside the lonely mixed-up world of W. Axl Rose" Featuring an extract from Mick Wall's (editor of the mag at that stage) last ever interview with Axl in Jan 1990. The full interview is in his book, The Most Dangerous Band etc. and will no doubt be dredged up once again in his latest book, in order to squeeze a few more quid from his former connection with GNR. May 2004 - "Guns N' Roses - The Band That Refuses To Die" On the eve of the release of VR's album, Classic Rock used the opportunity to put Axl on the front cover and feature a re-run of Rolling Stone's Kim Neely interview from 1992. Wall having now become editor-in-chief Thanks cyllan. You and these data made me feel more confident. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: younggunner on May 27, 2007, 02:11:33 PM Can this magazine be bought here in the US? If so when is it coming out?...thanks
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: flicknn on May 27, 2007, 02:15:03 PM Can this magazine be bought here in the US? If so when is it coming out?...thanks why do you need to buy the magazine for , it leaked on htgth al;ready , just \print the pages out and make your own cover for itTitle: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: cyllan on May 27, 2007, 02:22:07 PM There seems to be a lot ass kissing on this board for no reason. What will anyone get out of it? More topics like "How did GNR change your life?" "...for no reason" - Well, it may come as a surprise to you, but some of us appreciate the work Jarmo puts into running his site and respect the way he handles this messageboard. His efforts have resulted in us having access to pre-sales and advance information - making it just that little bit easier (and slightly less traumatic) to get tickets to see our favourite band. I, for one, don't take this kind of thing for granted. Additionally, for my money at least, he provides a cool place to hang out and discuss GNR and has facilitated some great pre-show meets. I'm not going to slag off the other boards but lets just say that I'm no fan of the rudeness that goes unchecked on some of them. However, if that's your thing, then perhaps I could suggest exploring some of the other alternatives. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: ppbebe on May 27, 2007, 02:42:38 PM To some GNR fans if you like the band you're axl's asskisser .
To some HTGTH posters if you like the board, you're jarmo's asskisser. See the robust similarity. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: KillKurtzKids on May 27, 2007, 04:28:36 PM Can you post my post again... edit it if you like. It was really good. Sorry to diss the creepy 'Axl's Clothes Thread'. I know having an opinon on something can be dangerous here... but the whole point of what I wrote was 'this article says nothing we don't know'... how much can me saying that really harm Axl? I think he's been delt bigger blows in his life time. ???
:-X Thanx :-X Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: slashsbaconpit on May 27, 2007, 08:20:09 PM There seems to be a lot ass kissing on this board for no reason. What will anyone get out of it? More topics like "How did GNR change your life?" "...for no reason" - Well, it may come as a surprise to you, but some of us appreciate the work Jarmo puts into running his site and respect the way he handles this messageboard. His efforts have resulted in us having access to pre-sales and advance information - making it just that little bit easier (and slightly less traumatic) to get tickets to see our favourite band. I, for one, don't take this kind of thing for granted. I don't have a problem with Jarmo. I appreciate HTGTH, and all the good work he does. But I also see the point that others make that its kinda lame to not discuss some of the most exciting developments in the GNR world on THE BEST GNR fan site. It takes what I believe to be the very best run GNR board on the Internet, and takes the balls out of it. Instead of being a place to come for news and debate and speculation, its turning into a place that ignores some pretty major stuff. I'm sorry, but a studio version of Chinese Democracy and Madagascar is a pretty big piece of news. I understand not linking to it and not allowing links to it, but to outlaw discussion of it is only going to drive traffic to other sites. He's only hurting himself, and the integrity of HTGTH as a fan site. This place used to be THE place for GNR news and rumors, but now it's the place to read the official news after it's been posted on the official site. I don't want anyone the think I have a problem with this site or its master, cuz, like you said, there are alternatives. I just would rather discuss this stuff with the cool people on this board rather than on some of the other boards. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: metallex78 on May 27, 2007, 09:10:59 PM They name Better as the strongest track.? They also note how great the buckethead outro is, and also "Axl's undeniably impressive vocal work". Bucket plays an outro on Better? I thought he just plays the middle shred solo bit before the "I never wanted you to be so full of anger" part? Robin plays the solo at 3:40 and the other lead guitar bits until the end of the song, I know that much from seeing live vids. Sorry, that part was referring to TWAT No worries, thanks for clearing that up. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: clau68 on May 27, 2007, 11:23:23 PM I like the article in this magazine and I hope I can buy it in my country. Obviously as all the articles in the magazines, some things will be pure speculation and other things will be well known for all, but in general I think is a good article. On the other hand, I think that Jarmo has the right of allowing or not allowing certain topics. In my case, I visit this site because I like the way the site is conducted. It is logical that if HTGTH is a site for GNR fans the topics must not upset any member of the band. It is stupid confuse a site dedicated to a band with political issues (like democracy). I will continue supporting Axl with or without CD, and I don?t consider myself an axl's asskisser or jarmo's asskisser.
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: dENIS on May 28, 2007, 03:00:40 AM ? Dear friends and fellow GNR fans, I have looked at this site only periodically since we received the letter from Axl in December, figuring there'd be nothing substantial to be said for a good while from us fans and from the band, until the album was close to release and/or a single would come out. ? Since then, and for awhile before actually, this board deteriorated into one man's obsession with control and it quite simple isNO LONGER FUN. I originally came here for that reason. I came here because it was FUN. The old board I went to "mygnr.com" became zero fun and I bagged that as a result. The fun here ended a long time ago and has gotten worse whenever I would check in and see what was being discussed and speculated upon. It seems like the second part of that was disintegrated. There is NO more speculation allowed, which to me is very odd considering this is not the official website for Guns N' Roses. This is a message board for fans of said band who should have the right to discuss topics that are considered "off limits" or the usual banter of opinions. Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Now, I will cut you to the quick, because I expect some juvenile response from you in the shape of "If you don't like it , go somewhere else" , the ever popular "It's MY board, it's MY rules" or the "Go start your own board if you don't like it here" standard response that I've read on here ad nauseum to the point that my eyes have rolled completely back into my sockets and out again. The last straw for me was your decision to not include the scanned pages of Classic Rock magazine where they discussed the leaks to date and gave their OPINION on how they sound and what they might be about. This is a respected publication doing something that is forbidden here......discussing and speculating. And in a favorable light I might add, but regardless of their tone or comments, we fans should be able to read them and discuss the issues at hand. These leaked songs, no matter what stage of completion they are in or who is responsible for leaking them, are indeed REAL, cannot be ignored and we should be FREE to discuss them because THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS BAND!!!!!! I care not start my own board but, I will go somewhere else ( a few really - already have) and that is where I've been since December. At these fan sites, I found the links to these downloadable,"forbidden" leaks and have enjoyed them immensely and have shared them with others that I believe would also like to hear them. I respect the rule to not post links,etc. but....to not even allow people the basic freedom of discussing something that they love and celebrate is not only abhorrent but intolerable. I've always said that Guns N' Roses are my all-time favorite band and I support this band and Axl himself, as he is a personal hero of mine. I will buy Chinese Democracy no matter when it comes out (Hell, I'm probably gonna buy 2 on Day One.) and no matter how long it takes. None of this has never changed. What has changed is this board and it is NO LONGER FUN. ? ?Fuck you Jarmo. May we never meet. ? ? ? ?GNR FOREVER!! ? ? ? MATT A REAL FAN That`s right! Fuck u! You`re communist. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Christos AG on May 28, 2007, 03:15:27 AM Dear friends and fellow GNR fans, I have looked at this site only periodically since we received the letter from Axl in December, figuring there'd be nothing substantial to be said for a good while from us fans and from the band, until the album was close to release and/or a single would come out. Since then, and for awhile before actually, this board deteriorated into one man's obsession with control and it quite simple isNO LONGER FUN. I originally came here for that reason. I came here because it was FUN. The old board I went to "mygnr.com" became zero fun and I bagged that as a result. The fun here ended a long time ago and has gotten worse whenever I would check in and see what was being discussed and speculated upon. It seems like the second part of that was disintegrated. There is NO more speculation allowed, which to me is very odd considering this is not the official website for Guns N' Roses. This is a message board for fans of said band who should have the right to discuss topics that are considered "off limits" or the usual banter of opinions. Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Now, I will cut you to the quick, because I expect some juvenile response from you in the shape of "If you don't like it , go somewhere else" , the ever popular "It's MY board, it's MY rules" or the "Go start your own board if you don't like it here" standard response that I've read on here ad nauseum to the point that my eyes have rolled completely back into my sockets and out again. The last straw for me was your decision to not include the scanned pages of Classic Rock magazine where they discussed the leaks to date and gave their OPINION on how they sound and what they might be about. This is a respected publication doing something that is forbidden here......discussing and speculating. And in a favorable light I might add, but regardless of their tone or comments, we fans should be able to read them and discuss the issues at hand. These leaked songs, no matter what stage of completion they are in or who is responsible for leaking them, are indeed REAL, cannot be ignored and we should be FREE to discuss them because THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS BAND!!!!!! I care not start my own board but, I will go somewhere else ( a few really - already have) and that is where I've been since December. At these fan sites, I found the links to these downloadable,"forbidden" leaks and have enjoyed them immensely and have shared them with others that I believe would also like to hear them. I respect the rule to not post links,etc. but....to not even allow people the basic freedom of discussing something that they love and celebrate is not only abhorrent but intolerable. I've always said that Guns N' Roses are my all-time favorite band and I support this band and Axl himself, as he is a personal hero of mine. I will buy Chinese Democracy no matter when it comes out (Hell, I'm probably gonna buy 2 on Day One.) and no matter how long it takes. None of this has never changed. What has changed is this board and it is NO LONGER FUN. Fuck you Jarmo. May we never meet. GNR FOREVER!! MATT A REAL FAN That`s right! Fuck u! You`re communist. How about you get banned for a few days? I mean since we're communists, we do this kind of stuff, right? Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: stolat on May 28, 2007, 03:22:02 AM Hey! I didn't realize that people can fuck with one's quote!
That is seriously not the right thing do to. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: norway on May 28, 2007, 03:42:11 AM I'm sorry, but a studio version of Chinese Democracy and Madagascar is a pretty big piece of news. I understand not linking to it and not allowing links to it, but to outlaw discussion of it is only going to drive traffic to other sites. Discussing their existence will help spread leaks, which is likely the reason it's not allowed. Respecting the band wishes.Of course it sucks, I also think it sucks everything else of CD isn't leaked :hihi: Thanks for the article :peace: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Skeletor on May 28, 2007, 04:24:54 AM Discussing their existence will help spread leaks, which is likely the reason it's not allowed. Respecting the band wishes. That's quite clear. The point is that more than one year ago, when Better, I.R.S, Catcher in the Rye and There Was a Time leaked, it was big news and everyone was talking about it here. I'm sure the band didn't like it any more back then either, y'know. So something has obviously changed since. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: grog mug on May 28, 2007, 04:44:01 AM I'm thinking they are "guessing" some of the names of the new songs. I'm sure they haven't heard Prostitutue or Zodiac, if they have I'm sure they will be leaked soon enough.
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: dENIS on May 29, 2007, 02:24:57 AM ? Dear friends and fellow GNR fans, I have looked at this site only periodically since we received the letter from Axl in December, figuring there'd be nothing substantial to be said for a good while from us fans and from the band, until the album was close to release and/or a single would come out. ? Since then, and for awhile before actually, this board deteriorated into one man's obsession with control and it quite simple isNO LONGER FUN. I originally came here for that reason. I came here because it was FUN. The old board I went to "mygnr.com" became zero fun and I bagged that as a result. The fun here ended a long time ago and has gotten worse whenever I would check in and see what was being discussed and speculated upon. It seems like the second part of that was disintegrated. There is NO more speculation allowed, which to me is very odd considering this is not the official website for Guns N' Roses. This is a message board for fans of said band who should have the right to discuss topics that are considered "off limits" or the usual banter of opinions. Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Now, I will cut you to the quick, because I expect some juvenile response from you in the shape of "If you don't like it , go somewhere else" , the ever popular "It's MY board, it's MY rules" or the "Go start your own board if you don't like it here" standard response that I've read on here ad nauseum to the point that my eyes have rolled completely back into my sockets and out again. The last straw for me was your decision to not include the scanned pages of Classic Rock magazine where they discussed the leaks to date and gave their OPINION on how they sound and what they might be about. This is a respected publication doing something that is forbidden here......discussing and speculating. And in a favorable light I might add, but regardless of their tone or comments, we fans should be able to read them and discuss the issues at hand. These leaked songs, no matter what stage of completion they are in or who is responsible for leaking them, are indeed REAL, cannot be ignored and we should be FREE to discuss them because THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS BAND!!!!!! I care not start my own board but, I will go somewhere else ( a few really - already have) and that is where I've been since December. At these fan sites, I found the links to these downloadable,"forbidden" leaks and have enjoyed them immensely and have shared them with others that I believe would also like to hear them. I respect the rule to not post links,etc. but....to not even allow people the basic freedom of discussing something that they love and celebrate is not only abhorrent but intolerable. I've always said that Guns N' Roses are my all-time favorite band and I support this band and Axl himself, as he is a personal hero of mine. I will buy Chinese Democracy no matter when it comes out (Hell, I'm probably gonna buy 2 on Day One.) and no matter how long it takes. None of this has never changed. What has changed is this board and it is NO LONGER FUN. ? ?Fuck you Jarmo. May we never meet. ? ? ? ?GNR FOREVER!! ? ? ? MATT A REAL FAN That`s right! Fuck u! You`re communist. Big deal!!! :hihi: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Christos AG on May 29, 2007, 03:35:23 AM Well, since you don't care, buckle up Dorothy, 'cause Kansas is going bye-bye.
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: stolat on May 29, 2007, 03:43:45 AM ? Dear friends and fellow GNR fans, I have looked at this site only periodically since we received the letter from Axl in December, figuring there'd be nothing substantial to be said for a good while from us fans and from the band, until the album was close to release and/or a single would come out. ? Since then, and for awhile before actually, this board deteriorated into one man's obsession with control and it quite simple isNO LONGER FUN. I originally came here for that reason. I came here because it was FUN. The old board I went to "mygnr.com" became zero fun and I bagged that as a result. The fun here ended a long time ago and has gotten worse whenever I would check in and see what was being discussed and speculated upon. It seems like the second part of that was disintegrated. There is NO more speculation allowed, which to me is very odd considering this is not the official website for Guns N' Roses. This is a message board for fans of said band who should have the right to discuss topics that are considered "off limits" or the usual banter of opinions. Jarmo, I don't know your motivations, whether it is because you've been given access to a band that you never dreamed you'd get or because you enjoy the power trip this has become but, no one should stifle expression and since you're not an American, I'll cut you some slack on the fact that you won't respect freedom like we do, (no matter how free you think you have it, it ain't like here buddy) and since you don't live here, you will have a different attitude towards these things. There are people in my country who have the right to say the most horrible things but, I will fight to the fuckin' death for their right to say it, even if I vehemently oppose what they say. IT IS THEIR RIGHT. It is MY right. Now, I will cut you to the quick, because I expect some juvenile response from you in the shape of "If you don't like it , go somewhere else" , the ever popular "It's MY board, it's MY rules" or the "Go start your own board if you don't like it here" standard response that I've read on here ad nauseum to the point that my eyes have rolled completely back into my sockets and out again. The last straw for me was your decision to not include the scanned pages of Classic Rock magazine where they discussed the leaks to date and gave their OPINION on how they sound and what they might be about. This is a respected publication doing something that is forbidden here......discussing and speculating. And in a favorable light I might add, but regardless of their tone or comments, we fans should be able to read them and discuss the issues at hand. These leaked songs, no matter what stage of completion they are in or who is responsible for leaking them, are indeed REAL, cannot be ignored and we should be FREE to discuss them because THEY ARE RELEVANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS BAND!!!!!! I care not start my own board but, I will go somewhere else ( a few really - already have) and that is where I've been since December. At these fan sites, I found the links to these downloadable,"forbidden" leaks and have enjoyed them immensely and have shared them with others that I believe would also like to hear them. I respect the rule to not post links,etc. but....to not even allow people the basic freedom of discussing something that they love and celebrate is not only abhorrent but intolerable. I've always said that Guns N' Roses are my all-time favorite band and I support this band and Axl himself, as he is a personal hero of mine. I will buy Chinese Democracy no matter when it comes out (Hell, I'm probably gonna buy 2 on Day One.) and no matter how long it takes. None of this has never changed. What has changed is this board and it is NO LONGER FUN. ? ?Fuck you Jarmo. May we never meet. ? ? ? ?GNR FOREVER!! ? ? ? MATT A REAL FAN That`s right! Fuck u! You`re communist. Big deal!!!? :hihi: No, the big deal is this: 1) the poster tampered with a quote. 2) most communist regimes are quasy dictatorships. Therefore, to insinuate that the moderators here are communist is way out of line. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Christos AG on May 29, 2007, 03:47:17 AM No, the big deal is this: 1) the poster tampered with a quote. 2) most communist regimes are quasy dictatorships. Therefore, to insinuate that the moderators here are communist is way out of line. He's not with us anymore... He can't read your post. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: stolat on May 29, 2007, 03:55:26 AM No, the big deal is this: 1) the poster tampered with a quote. 2) most communist regimes are quasy dictatorships. Therefore, to insinuate that the moderators here are communist is way out of line. He's not with us anymore... He can't read your post. Well, lets hope that other people do! Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on May 29, 2007, 09:37:37 AM Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: audjon on May 29, 2007, 12:28:14 PM Hmm, I thought that every right wing americans had updated their insults to islamist Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: jarmo on May 29, 2007, 05:30:34 PM The scans have now been removed as requested by the magazine and anybody who reposts them will get banned.
/jarmo Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: FunkyMonkey on May 29, 2007, 05:38:09 PM Did anyone determine when you can buy the magazine in the states?
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: GypsySoul on May 29, 2007, 06:54:57 PM Did anyone determine when you can buy the magazine in the states? Classic Rock magazine is usually in USA bookstores a month AFTER they're released in the UK.So if it's the June issue, it's released in the UK in May but doesn't get released in the USA until June. Borders Bookstores and Barnes and Nobel carry Classic Rock mag. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: faldor on May 29, 2007, 07:31:58 PM Did anyone determine when you can buy the magazine in the states? Classic Rock magazine is usually in USA bookstores a month AFTER they're released in the UK.So if it's the June issue, it's released in the UK in May but doesn't get released in the USA until June. Borders Bookstores and Barnes and Nobel carry Classic Rock mag. Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: Axl Z on May 31, 2007, 02:58:08 PM this is a quality read, just found it in shops today.
if only GNR albums were as usall as GNR on the cover of Classic Rock! :peace: Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: ToonGuns on August 03, 2007, 05:07:24 PM I'm thinking they are "guessing" some of the names of the new songs.? I'm sure they haven't heard Prostitutue or Zodiac, if they have I'm sure they will be leaked soon enough. Zodiac? Do you mean Atlas Shrugged? That was one of the songs the article claimed to have heard... Just a few pointers: 1. I think everyone on this site is getting pissed off with the lack of "real" info from the official GnR camp and as a result posts have started to get a bit personal - we're all pissed off and we all want to hear the album! You can see it now though - when the release is made, I give it 2 months before we're discussing the next album, when is that coming out, when are the new tracks going to be leaked etc... and the cycle comes full circle? 2. Regarding the Classic Rock article - I have this magazine - (I'm actually in a band and have gigged with one of the bands on the free CD "Sons of Guns" on the front of the magazine) - but anyway - I do think they tend to make things up. Now correct me if I'm wrong (and I don't want people to post me links so don't delete this I'm not trying to post a disallowed thread...) but I can't remember hearing any leaked tracks in 1999? Classic Rock claims to have heard a 1999 studio version of Chinese Democracy, in addition to Prostitute and Atlas Shrugged... as has been mentioned a lot above - is it not entirely plausible that they are making this stuff up to sell magazines? Magazines which, sceptive fans like myself, still go out and buy! Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: SkiX on August 03, 2007, 09:22:01 PM Is Atlas Shrugged just CitR?
Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: ToonGuns on August 03, 2007, 09:28:11 PM Is Atlas Shrugged just CitR? No, because they review Catcher In The Rye seperately in addition to mentioning Atlas Shrugged.... Title: Re: New 12 page GNR article in Classic Rock magazine Post by: stolat on August 04, 2007, 03:12:15 AM I'm thinking they are "guessing" some of the names of the new songs.? I'm sure they haven't heard Prostitutue or Zodiac, if they have I'm sure they will be leaked soon enough. Zodiac? Do you mean Atlas Shrugged? That was one of the songs the article claimed to have heard... Just a few pointers: 1. I think everyone on this site is getting pissed off with the lack of "real" info from the official GnR camp and as a result posts have started to get a bit personal - we're all pissed off and we all want to hear the album! You can see it now though - when the release is made, I give it 2 months before we're discussing the next album, when is that coming out, when are the new tracks going to be leaked etc... and the cycle comes full circle? Just a few pointers: "real" info = -The band have just completed a successful tour. -The is much excitement about the new stuff. -let the guys go back to the studio to reflect on what they just did -you must support the band 100% -talking about leaks is pointless -if you don't show some fucking respect towards the wishes of the band that are really expressed very well, thorughout this website, then the album release will be delayed yet again. |