Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Just got back from the premiere of pirates of the caribbean 3, I was a big fan of the first two parts hence the reason I attended the premiere which started at 1 am but let me just say this is not a good movie.

It focuses way too much on the whole Will turner/elisabeth swann love story I found myself really wanting to fast forward through alot of scenes which were just to chlich? and boring. Not even Johnny depp could save this movie his acting was brilliant but he just didn't have enough scenes/witty lines.

I mean big epic sword fights and ship battles are cool but I think they've done enough of those in the first two parts.

The only good things about this movie are the special effects and Keith richards, that guy has to be the best pirate ever.


Don't think it's in theaters in the states yet but anyone else from Europe seen this movie yet?

yeah i will check this out but i thought the second one was a HUGE dissapointment.

i loved the first, good fun and Depp is awesome.

If you don't like part two than I can guarantee you that you won't like this one either . Since it's basically just an extended version of part two

lol. that sucks man. the first was sooo cool and was a promising start to the series/trilogy.

**Waits for Matrix reference**

Even tho I loved all 3 matrix Movies, 2 and 3 were better than 1 in my opinion.

I enjoyed Reloaded, myself. The Matrix sequels were like the Wachowski's very flawed attempt at a Use Your Illusions. It went from a contained, concise movie with slightly esoteric intent... to a sprawling, epic phantasmagoria that, by its own finale, crushed itself under its own bulk and was ultimately deemed a failure, at least artistically.

That's a nice way to say it.  :hihi:

I think all sequels to successful movies have this basic problem, in that the temptation to go WAY over the top is just too appealing.  Every director thinks "Hey, I could have pulled off Godfather 2!"  Of course, most of them are wrong...

But I'll see it anyway.  I liked the second film, so this should please me, even if it is bloated.  Hell, even Bon Scott knew that a whole lotta Rosie can be fun, from time to time.  :beer:

Enjoyed the first movie and switched off around half way through the second, I don't think I'll bother.

I'm certainly not gonna be bothered to go opening weekend. Not this time. I haven't even caught Spidey3 yet (hopefully this week). These new front-loaded openings can go fuck themselves. Who's gonna top who next? It's a new fucking world record ever weekend. I remember when the first Spidey did $114 million and everyone almost shit themselves. But it played past $400 million. Now they open over $150 million and fall just as fast. They make it to DVD in three to fours months or less. The hell with that. I'll see it when the kids are on to the next thing later in June.

a friend of mine saw it.. he didn't like it either..

2 biggest movies and sequels (spiderman and pirates) are big dissapointments.. suckie

wanna know something? i'm the only teenagerin the west world that haven't seen any of the pirates movies :hihi:

The first film rocked because of the script and the acting - so in true Brockheimer style, out go both to be replaced by cgi - cos thats what everyone wants right...right?

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Still, I'll try lashing together a "Pirates" survival guide. I hope this will keep you from leaving the theater feeling suicidal for not completely following a Disney movie in which all the actors look like they're in Guns N' Roses.  :hihi:


http://www.contracostatimes.com/entertainment/ci_5979076

I have heard nothing but bad things about Pirates 3 so far.  I was a fan of the first one, second was okay...I'm going to go see this one tomorrow and check it out.  The Matrix movies definitely got worse.  The third one was so pretentiously crappish that I walked out of the theater on it.  The first one was a really great movie.  I have yet to see Spidey 3, but I was never a fan of that franchise when put to film. 

Just got off the phone with my brother and he said it was Amazing! said it was one of the best and I tend to usually agree with his opinions on movies, So U have to take into account the person reviewing it. 3 hours may have had a lot to do with people not liking it.

I think it will be awesome! Im gonna go Sunday.

Glad to hear a good review, finally.  I've loved the Pirates, since I was a kid on the ride at Disney World, and I ain't gonna stop now!  And it's a good weekend to see a movie!

fuuuuck me, im watching the news and theres already lines for Pirates

Oh man, I loved every second. That movie kicked all sorts of ass  : ok:

Just got back.  I really liked the movie, the only negative is the length.  It didnt need to be that long. 

does it finish off like there is going to be a part 4 or this is the last movie?

It ends the trilogy, but leaves it open for more.  Ive heard Depp wants to come back.

Saw it last night. I hated part 2, but loved this one. Having Geoffrey Rush back to eat up the scenes that didnt have Johnny Depp was a big help. Make sure to stay through the credits.

I already gots me ticket!!!! *banana dance*  7 pm tonight  : ok:  (single mommies can't go out on the weeknights :hihi: )

Thanks for the tip kujo, and all of the other reviews.  As with any sequel, I expected the first reviews to be horrendus.  I'm a POTC junkie, and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna love this movie.  I wanna know what happens between Will and Elizabeth, so I don't think that I'm gonna be bored or put off by that focus. And I love long movies (LOTR is my other fave ;) )

I've also read that the first part of the movie is kinda disturbing (something about pirates being led away to their deaths, including a kid), so I'm going to see this before I bring my daughter.  Starts kinda like the 2nd one then, huh? She's willing to put up with nightmarish scenes to see the movie though :hihi:


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

I KNEW I liked these movies for SOME reason!  :rofl:

well the second one wasnt too good so i didnt have much hopes for this, it looked shitty in the trailers anyway.

one will always be top for me, two had its moments but wasnt half as good.

i must say though, the bit in two where they have a pirate bar brawl was just classic.

Absolutely blown away by this  movie, AWESOME!!

Can't wait till Sunday when I see it again with my daughter ;D

I loved this movie. I gave it a 9/10. I've seen it twice and it kicked ass the second time through. It is truly a thrill ride and exactly what you want in a summer movie. It has great humor, great references to the first Pirates that were lacking in part 2, INCREDIBLE visuals (some of the best I've ever seen), epic fight scenes, and a hell of a music score by Hans Zimmer. It's not quite as great as COTBP (10/10), but it's still a hell of a summer movie and better than Dead Man's Chest and Spider-Man 3 for sure. Hell, I'd rate it above all of the Spidey films to be honest.

It's playing locally starting every half hour, so I'm sure to go tomorrow.  And I'd rate playing with Mr. Potato Head above all the Spidey films.

LOL. OK, well all I can say is that AWE is just a fun summer movie and I hope you enjoy it.

awful, horrenous....my god!

What the hell was the this film on about? I had no idea who was doing what - why were they after Jack??

Just didnt understand and didnt care - the film was so long i couldnt even remember what had gone on previously

Just...baffling

Watch the first two and maybe you'd understand it a bit more. It wasn't that complicated. I had a hard time understanding some of the accents of the characters, but the plot wasn't that bad if you have seen the first two more than once.

Sorry I'm with Izzy.. I saw this last night. It was painful. The movie was everywhere and went for an hour too long. Awful.

I agree it went too long---then again, nowadays all but the most worthless of comedies go too long---but the plot wasn't hard to follow in the least, if you've seen the first two. 

I particularly enjoyed seeing Jack's mother.  :rofl:

Oh bravo ::)

Well obviously i've seen the first 2. This film seemed to have little or nothing to do with what had actually gone before....



Indeed - because once you peel away the cgi, there wasnt a story here at all

Upon reading scores of reviews I discover there wasnt a storyline here to begin with - hence the confusion

Did you know filming began without a finished script....



the plot wasnt there

...and since when is a female leader a ....King?!?!?

Ye gods!

did they still do the keith richards being jacks father idea or was that scrapped out of this?

Keith is still in it, that guy deserves a pirate movie of his own  :hihi:

Nope it's still in there, and he does make a pretty good pirate, although it does just seem like its put in there for the sake of it as it doesnt actually make any difference ot the storyline or anything.

yeah but...its keith richards...it doesnt matter why hes in there, the fact he is in there is what matters ;)

why do they keep making these crappy movies ...... .... oh wait ...

How so?  In Pirates 2, Jack was eaten by the kraken and the trading company had procured the heart of Davy Jones and, thus, the ability to control him.

In Pirates 3, they go to rescue Jack from the land of the dead, and the plot centers around the trading company's use of Davy Jones to war against piracy, thus leading to a plot wherein pirates must act in unison. 

Seems like a pretty straightforward continuation of Pirates 2, to me.


That's a pretty trivial criticism, but I assume it's just for the sake of piling on the outrage. 
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Anyway, I guess from what's been said here that the movie isn't for everyone.  I like the characters, the way they're both good and, because they're pirates, are constantly playing the angles and betraying each other, and the action sequences were strong.  If you like boring characters and super-predictable plots, they've dedicated three Spiderman movies to such endeavors.       

I believe that this was more like the 2nd movie.  I think this one had a darker tone again.  I felt this one was had more serious undertones then the first one had.  Relationships were more in focus and MUCH more complicated.

As in all of them, you were never really sure whose "side" Jack was on and/or how he was going to achieve his goals.  There was a little help, but I won't say cuz I can't make my text invisible and it might be a bit of a spoiler  :-\

I will say, that I understood much more on a second viewing, then I did on the first.

There's lots of gags and jokes referencing the first film. Some old friends come back and there's a much better ending than the second one. The ending is more like the first one.

Just got back from watching it and This is by far the best movie of the series.

It lasts 3 hours but I didnt feel like i was in the theater for 30 minutes.


Izzy I have no idea what u are talkin about with the plot, Did u fall asleep or something....?? this movie picked up right where 2 left off and like Freedom78 said it was pretty straightforward from there.


The fact she was voted king is just a joke inside the movie. The movie is a comedy also for those who didnt realize it and that was just something added in.

Everything about this movie was great, I personally felt it doesnt drag really at all, some of the fight scenes go a little long but they don't downgrade the movie any.


Go see this, Its way better than 2 and I liked it better than the first one.

I honestly can't understand the bad reviews.

I think sometimes people go to the movies in a bad mood or they are sleepy and don't really get everything.

I was going on about 3 hours sleep the first time I watched part 2 and I thought it was just ok. I went back a month later and watched it fully rested and I thought it was very good.

Part 3 is amazing, its funny but also very dramatic, has great action and I think this one flows well and the cinematography is amazing as well.

i did try repeatedly to fall asleep, but stopped myself using the logic 'if i dont see it now, i'll have to see it another day'

why did they want to get Jack back? Other than the fact they had bugger all else to do with their time?

Didnt the 2nd film end with Barbie chaining him to the mast.....then deciding 'oh wait, that was a mistake, better go rescue him...''


so Beckett needs pirates to sing....so pirates will gather, so he can destroy them using the Dutchman...and not his vast fleet :confused:

Ms Swan wants to.....? Er? I'm honestly lost for her motivation

Will Turner wants to rescue the dad who keeps trying to kill him, and who is bound to the Dutchman for 100 years....except at the end of the film his dad is free...after just 10 years....

Jack wants to....be immortal? Drink rum?

Barbossa wants to....er....? Why is he even in this film again?

Davy Jones wants to rescue/kill his girlfriend?

The Black Pearl wants to explain to the audience how it repairs itself instantly and where its every expanding crew comes from

Norrington wants to...? Why did he stay behind again?

The flotilla of support characters....why are they there?

I did wonder if the scenes were actually ordered or just strung together at random....

So many questions, Izzy, so many questions.....

what about going to see something different for once? ;)

I saw it at the Drive In this past weekend and it wasn't "that" bad :hihi:

Painfully long, but a decent "popcorn movie." : ok:

Im with Izzy.. the movie totally lost me. It was all over the place and just went for wayyy too long. First one was the best.

Such as...?


They needed him for their pirate assembly, and so that they could free Calypso.


Yes, because the kraken was trying to eat him, and thus endangering every one else around him.


His father clearly has difficulty remembering, as I thought was adequately demonstrated when he tells Elizabeth the same story twice.  He is free because Will is the new captain. 


Yes, and yes.


Again, Calypso brings him back, so that he will call for that pirate assembly, and free her.


About half the crew are from Singapore, thus the scene near the beginning where Barbosa asks for a ship and a crew.  When that ship is lost, immediately prior to finding Jack, that crew becomes the Pearl's crew.   


I've only seen one good movie with minimal characters, and that was 12 Angry Men.  Imagine your complaints if all the ships were simply adrift, because they hadn't hired any actors for those roles...


My guess is the former, seeing as how the story seems to follow a chronological progression.

wait just a sec i thought it was excellent. but what happens at the end of the creditz i missed it .

^ It's Elizabeth and a little boy (her and Will's son I assume) standing, waiting by the beach ten years later, and Will and the Dutchman show up to come visit.

Anyway, I'm so surprised at all the negative reviews I've heard. I thought it was great!

thanks jennaslide , i was soo confused as well, i thought it was a excellent movie
 :beer:

Izzy honestly u sound like someone who missed not only half of this one but half of the 2nd one.

Freedom hits it on the head here.


Jack had one of the 8 pieces needed to free Calypso. So in order for her to be set free they had to rescue Jack

Jack wanted to be immortal to sail and drink rum. It sounds as if u are trying to make a movie that isnt meant to be entirely serious a serious movie.? Jack is the comic foil for the most part in these films, so stuff like that is just meant for comedic relief. Like at the end when he points his compass to what he wants the most and it points at the bottle of rum behind him. Its just meant to be funny and nothing more.

Will still loves his dad obviously and realizes that his dad is bound by a certain code and has little control over tryin to kill Will. He knows if he can get rid of Davy Jones he can save his father which he does at the end.

Elizabeth loves Will, feels guilty for betraying Jack is labeled a pirate and will be hanged, so really she has no option but to keep sailing seeing as if she goes back she will be executed.

Norrington sailed with Jack and Co. in part 2 and I guess he like Will and Elizabeth and her father in part 1 realized that Jack and pirates aren't so bad afterall and are actually better people than the ones he was working for.

This movie made perfect sense, went completely in order picking up perfectly from the 2nd one.

I think some of u who didnt like it should watch it again cause obviously u saw it on a day where maybe your head and heart were somewhere else.


Someone not liking a movie cause its "Too Long" should maybe stick to Will Ferrell Movies. : ok:

I saw it on friday and thought it was great :)

that is the saddest.

people don't even questions these movies.

it's either zodiac or spiderman 3 or pirates.
for the past week every time i talked to someone it was one of these 3 movies they went to see.

it's like there is NO other cinema.
critics could go on and on about great movies to see, chinese, mexican, austrian ... people are just deaf.

it's all about Pirates.

Cannes is giving all its prizes to small, foreign, meaningful films.... and people will ONLY go see Die Hard 4.

download die hard 4. steal it. do not pay for it.
you want to escape from your hard life of stress in the dangerous town you live in. you want to chill out with a *simple movie* ?
download it for free. eat at home comfortable.
these blockbusters DO NOT deserve your money. just like Paris Hilton CD does not deserve it.
these are not films they marketing product made to get your money, they blind you with big names and stars and wait for your docile money money.


but all these little films that ARE cinema, just don't exist to 99% of the crowd.

worst, the same guys here saying that " PIRATES IS THE BEST FILM EVAH ! OMG ! SO GOOD !" are the ones that diss britney spears and blink 182 and are proud to listen to nine inch nails ... ironic. ironic

i'm sorry, paying for Pirates is the same thing as paying for Paris Hilton's music . SAME.





ps: for many, that was my "i'm an annoying snob" minute.
PEACE :)

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What an annoying Snob :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

damn  :rant:  ;D

no, i'm serious.
it's sad.

and the Festival de Cannes is the perfect example.

in the streets: transformers, ocean's 13, die hard, rambo, hollywood stars strollin', .... pure entertainment. food for our empty eyes.
with the prizes and the palm : very small budget movies from small countries dealing with intense issues. food for the brain that only 0.5% of the public will see.
i know there are a lot of guys here that like all kinds of movies and that love small budget films. but the more the mass will go see Pirates and Transformers, the more they will make marketing movies like these and the less you guys will have access to interesting films.

i'm serious
do you like the way mtv turned? are you happy with what they show on mtv? no i hear you guys complaining about this "marketing crap" all the time.
well what you reject in the music industry, it's time to reject it in the movie industry.
every year i hear you guys talking about how you saw Spiderman 57 and complaing how it sucks ...



call me snob.  :nervous:

Gotta love the last battle, amazing.

First, you'll note that, rather than actually giving me some suggestions, you assumed my comment was sarcastic, and you went on a rant. 

Second, my going to see Pirates isn't the same as paying for Paris Hilton's music.  I saw Pirates because, as a child, it was my favorite ride.  Now, for the 28.7% of Americans who consider Paris Hilton their favorite ride, I can see the comparison.  :hihi:  But, that isn't the case for most of us.

Third, I do agree that our willingness to gobble up the latest garbage certainly leads to lower quality films.  As I've said to others, films don't have to be good.  You pay the same whether you watch it once or leave after ten minutes.  And, since most people don't see something more than once, they've achieved their goal, simply by getting your ass in the seat, however briefly.  I rarely go to the theater to see a movie, BECAUSE the vast majority of them suck and have replaced story and acting with CGI and other effects.  I stopped renting movies at my local video store BECAUSE they don't carry things even as "artsy" as films based on Shakespeare.  At the same time, the town I live near has ridiculously poor taste in nearly everything.  There are 100,000 people, not counting 40,000 seasonal university students, and yet you'd be amazed at the difficulty for non-chain restaurants to stay in business.  On a Friday night, you have to wait 45 minutes to eat at Chili's or CrApplebee's, but the small restaurants, that try to do something different, really crash and burn. 

Of course, the film selection is abysmal, too.  "The Queen," which was released in October, 2006, didn't appear here until January, 2007, after it had been nominated for Oscars.  It was 100 miles to the nearest showing of "The Namesake," which I doubt will ever play here.  I happened to be where it was showing, but if I made a habit of such treks, I'm certain you'd throw a fit about me throwing my big American ass into a gargantuan American SUV, and finishing off the habitats of 14 species, simply to see a quality movie.   :hihi:   

The only things about which I can't complain are the cigar and beer selections.  After all, you have to draw the line somewhere.

So, I guess my point is that I agree with you, but not every instance of someone seeing a big budget blockbuster is quite as heinous a crime as you seem to believe.           

Keith Richards was the best part.  :P

Well, I loved it.. looking forward to seeing it again to catch what i missed..

and Keef!!! he looked amazing!!!!

johnny depp rules!

I thought the movie kick ass for what it was. A big summer movie.

well, i agree with you now.

torrents site are full of masterpieces ;)

pirates of the carribean at worlds end has made more money in 6 days than wat spiderman 3 has made scince it's release. i thought the movie was great but i would have prefered to see more of jack sparrow

saw it a few days ago. it was not as good as the first one, of course, but it was waaaaaaaay better than the second!
I really enjoyed everything except the Turner-Swann crap....why does all big movies need some completely idiotic overdone lovestory to it? and you can always be sure that those roles are played by a couple of completetely talentless actors who belong in the soap operas...Bloom and Knightley, god allmighty they're awful..
the other ones are mostly good actors, of course Depp is leagues ahead of everyone else as usual, but what else is new?
the movie would actually have been really good have it not been for that romantic drivel.
they should have cut that out, the movie would still have been 2 hours long without it!

Loved it.

ahh nothing spectacular but i rather like the first one.

this movie sucked.

2 hours of pointless, hard to keep up with, diolog. and 30 minutes of action.

I liked it. The first still remains the best though. I especially liked how Jack sailed towards eternal life ( and hopefully rum) at the end. Out of the threequels released this month it was easily the best. Shrek was even more of a let down than Spidey was...

Supreme disappointment ... Way too much Will and Liz and not enough Jack. Action scenes were good but not spectacular. And what the fuck happened to the massive battle at the end??? It was one on one then two on one then like a thousand ships fled. WTF? ???