Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Not all is sinister on "The Devil Knows My Name" but there are tunnels to the past greats. John 5 shreds out his version of GUNS N' ROSES' "Welcome To The Jungle" and CHET ATKINS' "Young Thing". "I chose 'Welcome To The Jungle' for one reason ? when I was becoming successful it was easy to stay in the nest back home, then I saw the video and that made me get up and go to Hollywood," explains John 5. "Welcome To The Jungle" will be the first single off the album and will hit the airwaves soon.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=67020

hmmm i may be outta date.. but who is john 5  ???

He's the Rob Zombie guitarist. And he was once rumored to be GN'R's new guitar player...

Only an incredible guitarist who has played with Rob Halford, David Lee Roth and Marilyn Manson (where he changed his name from John Lowery to John 5). ?His solo stuff is incredible, and for the longest time he was rumoured to be leaving his position in Rob Zombie's band to join Guns N' Roses as the third guitarist. ?Before Bumblefoot happened.

Ahh ok i knew the name sounded familar...

Well his take on Jungle should be interesting

this is going to be fun :)

Does anyone have a link to this song yet?

"The Devil Knows My Name" melds around clues, quotes and references of serial killers, wielding an eerie tone for those who dare to enter the world of John 5's mind. "I wanted a different tone to the instrumental with twisted imagery of sounds," explains John 5. "Utilizing serial killers came to light for this project while looking at their crimes and how distorted their minds work."

So it's a serial killer-themed album with a few covers thrown in?

Weird.

Any of you "T-Boner"?

Call me stupid everyone but, just out of curiosity, why would anyone ever want to change their name to John 5 in the first place???    ???    :nervous:


Maybe I'm getting old but, I just don't understand this world anymore.......    :confused:      :crying:

Yeah, Whatever happened to names like.. Buckethead, Bumblefoot, Slash, Dizzy, Izzy, Axl...I mean ya know, good ol fashioned everyday names  :hihi:

I miss hearing those names alot too.    :yes:

Yes dude but, those to me seem like pretty cool names whereas John 5?????    ???          :o


Like I said man, I must be getting old or something...........            :nervous:            :confused:               :crying:         

he was prolly gonna name himself like John V like the greek letter, but then maybe he got that people would have called him John Vee and not John 5 ??? :hihi:

All it was is, at the time he joined Marilyn Manson you had to have a weird name.  And he's probably a fan of the Short Circuit movies.

Ha I forgot all about Johnny 5.

It would have been interesting to hear him in GNR, though.

i'm fine with what we have

Yeah, you're right 'Bumblefoot' is way cooler than "John 5" what was he thinking?

Don't blame it on getting old man, just blame it on being clueless and getting hung up on trivial things then go about your day.

I remember reading that Manson himself named him "John 5".  It was sort of a big deal because he was the first MM band member who was not named after a mix of a serial killer/famous diva: Examples: Marilyn Manson, Twiggy Ramirez, Madonna Wayne Gacy.

It's weird that he kept the John 5 monikor, though.  Twiggy changed his name back to Jeordie White when he left Manson and started playing with Nine Inch Nails.

Speaking of covers, I really like these guys.   

www.myspace.com/mothergoosepickers

They do awesome bluegrass covers of GnR songs, inspired by the work of Mr. Chris Pitman.  Make sure you check them out too!

Just realized - you need the permission from the original band/singer to do a cover of a song correct?  At least to do a cover of a song for material gain (profit) and put on an album.  Therefore, Axl would have to authorize this right?  Just interesting how a single for Welcome to the Jungle is hitting airwaves around a tentative release time for Chinese Democracy.  Very interesting indeed....

are you sure?

My respect For John 5.

*

thankz for info.

HBK *

I'm 99% certain that you don't need permission.  You just have to pay for rights and ensure the original artist gets the royalities they're entitled to and go through the proper legal channels.  What a nightmare it would be if the original artists had to personally approve any and all covers of their work...there are many, many cover songs out there that are likely embarrassing to the original artists, you know?

I'm pretty sure you need permission... Axl woulda been able to use WTTJ in Black Hawk Down otherwise...


At least i think  ???

You do need permission when recording a version intended for release. Live however is a different matter.

John 5 doesn't need Axl's permission to do this. He got a compulsory mechanical liscense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_license

As for Black Hawk Down, movie soundtracks are not included in the mechanical liscense framework, so the artists must give thier permission.


 - SammyD1st

Cool! John 5 is great, one of my favourite guitarist. Looking forward to hear this!  :yes:

Thanks for clearin that up  : ok:

So the AFD lineup gets royalties, right?

It would be funny if it's better than the original.

It won't be.

lol that guy has some serious mental problems, his posts on blabbemouth always crack me up....

Wrong. Sanctuary would as Axl sold the rights to the back catalog to them in 2005 I believe was the year.

This will be awesome; J5 is amazingly talented; been looking forward to this CD for a while now.

Just wanna remind you guys that John's albums are instrumental...

This is gonna be awesome. I'm a huge, huge fan of Ron Thal, but in my heart of hearts, I so wanted John5 to be the 3rd guitarist. He is amazing. I saw him play with Rob Zombie, great player...

What kind of radio plays instrumentals? And I like this guys work with Meat Loaf. Yeah..

john 5 is really under rated, in manson he doesnt solo or anything, or really with rob zombie, but just check him out on the beatles metal tribute album, first track, he plays with duff and alice cooper, the solos are badass!

I agree. John 5 is a great player. I'm actually interested to hear his version of Jungle.

what album is that?

Axl should download John 5's WTTJ instrumental- load it onto his mac- and add his vocals onto using Garage Band- and release it as the first single off Chinese Democracy. It'll only take a day or two.

John 5 is an amazingly talented player. I've met him a few times, going out to see him again this April. He's a real gentleman. I've collected picks and stuff, you name it. Anyway, I'm very excited to hear this. I've been looking forward to his new solo album and had no idea he was covering WTTJ. Good to hear. Very exciting. I was disappointed his band Loser didn't work out, but it wasn't for my taste anyway. He works out way better for the Zombie. His work with Manson is phenomenal, but Manson isn't all that much a guitar oriented band, and he was lost under a muck of production and such. Too bad. His work with them on The Golden Age of Grotesque was really unique, especially the song "Para-noir" where he solos blindfolded and with headphones on playing other distractions so he can't hear himself play. Anyone interested should check out his work with Rob Halford on the HUGELY underrated 2wo Voyeurs album.

I still would have loved to of heard him with GNR.

I wonder if this came about from his rehearsing AFD for his auditions.

Nobody can ever top the 'Welcome to the Jungle' cover by Richard Cheese.  Pure genius...

As for permission/royalties, you don't need permission if you sell/profit-from a cover in which you don't change the lyrics, and you never need permission to perform a cover live.  So because of what Wierd Al does, he needs permission from the artists he parodies.  Richard Cheese however doesn't need permission.  Even though he severely changes the style of playing the song, he sticks to the 'general nature' of the work and doesn't modify the lyrics.  Cheese does need to cough up 'standard' royalties (pennies per song per album sold), but he can just throw them their money and do his thing.  Tribute bands fall into the same category. 

Didn't some alternative band cover 'Civil War' recently?  I'd like to get a copy of that too..

What auditions?

For gn'r

Yes, Mr. Cheese rocks.

If I may correct you on one thing though, Weird Al has said (and I think it's even on the FAQ section of his website) that he does NOT need permission from artists to parody their songs. ?He asks as a professional courtesy, and when an artist tells him no (so far only Prince has consistently told him no, and Eminem told him he could do...er, whatever that one song was, as long as he didn't do the video too) then he agrees not to do it. ?

Hoobastank did the Civil War cover, it's just acoustic/vocals. ?It was ok.

Edit:  From Al's website

i don't think he auditioned, that was only a rumor wasn't it?

I don't know, but it's possible.

I'm really looking forward to hearing this cover version, I love John5's guitar playing.  : ok:

butchering the beatles, came out last year. pretty good.

You can listen to a small clip at his website. http://www.john-5.com/

Sounds cool.

John 5 would have rocked. he's a much better guitar player than bumble... and would fit in better with finck,

Sounds very very good. :yes:

no vocals though?

Is it me or was that only like 5 seconds? Sounded good nonetheless.

I got 40-some seconds..

The rumor was from SP1at.

Is John going to join Guns 'n' Roses?

John has been linked with Guns ?N? Roses ever since he left Marilyn Manson but there is no truth behind this rumour.

FAQ - John 5 Official Web Page

anybody have a link for the song yet?

yes...

Sounds cool but too much like gnr, I was hoping he would make it darker and scarier and more like his other solo stuff

I love his version :)

I can't find it.

it's on the right side of his site..

I prefer the REAL WTTJ, I hate when other bands cover GNR songs, they're never as good.  GNR has a sound that only GNR can produce.  How many times at bars do you hear cover bands do bon jovi, or some thing else, but when they do GNR its like stop playing.

I disagree, some guns covers are better than the original.

"Better" by The Mother Goose Pickers comes to mind.

And I don't know who sang it but I heard a good "Used To Love Her" cover.

You really don't know that. Someone, perhaps Tommy, said they auditioned several guitarists. He could have been one of them.

It just struck me that it's almost 20 years ago AFD was released when listening to this song. I'm getting old.  :o

I think he didn't have Coolio's permission for Amish Paradise.  I remember one of the VH1 specials saying that Coolio was very upset by that parody.

That's so cool. John 5 is very good  :beer:

At least it was only instrumental. Which sounded great. Best cover I've heard. :smoking:

john 5 talks about covering welcome to the jungle in knac.com


KNAC.COM: How did you want to make this CD different from your previous instrumental releases?

JOHN 5: I wanted to make it a little bit more extreme than the first two releases. I wanted to give, as much as I could. I kind of put everything in there but the kitchen sink. The first song,? First Victim? is done with a violin bow. I just wanted to make the songs pretty long and pretty intense and really have a lot of information in there. I also did a cover of ?Welcome To The Jungle", which is really close to my heart. That is kind of what really made me want to move to California was that video. When I saw it, I said this is definitely what I am going to do. It has got a lot of meaning to it. On ?Young Thing", I just wanted to do a little bit of (country) western on there to mix it up a bit.

KNAC.COM: I loved how you revamped ?Welcome To The Jungle?. Actually your guitar parts scream out Axl's lyrics in such a way that it is really unique.

JOHN 5: I just wanted to just do his vocals, as close as possible. Even with the little phrases that he does. It came out really good, I am really proud of it.


To read the full article go here:http://knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=5425

it's true it really does sound like axl's vocals, kickass

It's an excellent version of a great song  :beer:

you can hear the track online here:
http://www.goear.com/listen.php?v=2c8d539

Pretty cool cover, IMHO! I'm gonna check this album, I think! : ok:

why is the album so expessive?
http://www.amazon.com/Devil-Knows-My-Name/dp/B000NDJJY2

I have John5's Vetigo album. Its pretty good  :)

It's an import. Is it getting a release in the States?

Hearing John5 play Welcome to the Jungle is so weird. The way he makes the guitar replace the vocals is good.

I'd like to see Buckerhead release his take on some guns songs. He does a great intro to Welcome to the Jungle.

thanks for uploading that, I never took the time to listen to it before. Great take on the song, I like the fact that he played the vocal part, rather than getting a crappy sound alike to do it.

Very impressive!!!

It's VERY VERY close to the original ... almost all the guitar lines are the same ...

It rocks tho :)  John5 is a great player.

just listened to the full song for the first time..love it :)

I thought it was going to be horrible , honestly. But the guitars are spot on , and jesus its like he found axl rose and turned him into a guitar hahaha.

Great cover! : ok:

Wasn't John5 rumoured to be the new guitarist at one point? (Before BBF)

Yes he was.

John5 did an awesome version of this song, the axl parts with the guitar are pretty cool.

Thanks for uploading that, esteban! :)

Actually, I didn't like that much just because it's too close IMO. :P

Fucking Awesome!!!!!  So fucking cool!  Loved it!

After hearing all those WTTJ covers on various crappy tribute albums it was nice to hear something different. I thought this cover was very interesting.

Nice to hear somebody put his own spin to it instead of trying to sing like Axl.... Well he made his guitar sing.  :D

Pretty cool.




/jarmo

john 5: you're the man!

That was wicked awesome!!

I love this version : ok:

Maybe it has been asked before, sorry if that's the case.

Is this song available for download somewhere? And I mean the legal pay-for-it-way.

what a great version

ROB ZOMBIE Guitarist JOHN 5: New Audio Interview Posted Online - June 22, 2007

The latest episode of "Talking Metal" features and interview host Mark Strigl and and John Ostronomy recently conducted with ROB ZOMBIE/ex-MARILYN MANSON guitarist John 5 during "Talking Metal Live". Topics include John 5's new solo album "The Devil Knows My Name", ROB ZOMBIE, VAN HALEN, DAVID LEE ROTH, GUNS N' ROSES, Bumblefoot, Marilyn Manson, Rob Halford, Tom Morello, Eric Johnson, Ace Frehley, and the Dimebag Darrell tribute Black Tooth Bash. Additional podcast topics include KISS, M?TLEY CR?E, Meat Loaf, and "The Sopranos". The 60-minute podcast can be downloaded at this location. iTunes users can also subscribe to "Talking Metal" for free at this location.

http://www.striglsmusicnews.com/podcasts/talkingmetal/index.htm

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=75345

have you heard the podcast FunkyMonkey? what did they say about GNR in a few lines?

^^No not yet...just saw this.

That was pretty freakin awesome!!! Thank you!!!    :peace:

John 5 is a great guy.? He speaks highly of both Bumblefoot and Buckethead in the interview in TM episode 154 - http://www.talkingmetal.com

This was a fantastic cover!

Thank you Chief!

Just noticed this song is now available for purchase on itunes if interested. 

John 5 is awesomely amazing.