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Title: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: cliffburton on April 26, 2007, 08:24:08 PM
How many of you watched it?

I'm gonna say that Biden was the most honest and straight forward, with Clinton following closely behind.? Everyone else used catchwords and avoided the question.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Jessica on April 26, 2007, 08:27:36 PM
nope, simply because i'm in france and our presidentials have already started and the second run is in 10 days, so all political debates here are about our own country right now.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: The Dog on April 26, 2007, 08:56:13 PM
How many of you watched it?

I'm gonna say that Biden was the most honest and straight forward, with Clinton following closely behind.  Everyone else used catchwords and avoided the question.

I missed it.....DANG :(


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Booker Floyd on April 26, 2007, 09:13:29 PM
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I'm gonna say that Biden was the most honest and straight forward, with Clinton following closely behind.  Everyone else used catchwords and avoided the question.

I havent watched it yet...but did Edwards, Kucinich and Gravel avoid questions?  Examples?


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: cliffburton on April 26, 2007, 09:23:09 PM
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I'm gonna say that Biden was the most honest and straight forward, with Clinton following closely behind.? Everyone else used catchwords and avoided the question.

I havent watched it yet...but did Edwards, Kucinich and Gravel avoid questions?? Examples?

Gravel was very argumentitive and combative.  He verbally attacked the other members, claiming they had intention to use nuclear weapons on Iran.  In terms of performance, he was a flop.  Edwards used the normal politican move, of changing words and skirting around the question, to me he didn't seem very straight forward as Biden and even Clinton appeared to be.  A direct example would be his stance on abortion where rather than adress the question (the recent ruling on partial ban) he changed it to privacy.  Obama and Kucinich gave similar answers to the same question.  Kucinich was off in left field with Gravel, arguing against any retaliation to 9/11 and our action in Afghanistan.  Obama faired well, but he skirted the questions quite a few times on issues where he didn't want to create a stand.  I'm sure it will be on teh net if it isn't still on MSNBC.com for viewing.  Everyone who plans on voting should watch this past one and the Republican one next week.  I thought the moderation was very well done and they asked some good questions.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 26, 2007, 11:49:36 PM
What?s up chuckles? You sure seem to have a lot of downtime in Baghdad. 

Missed that, but did manage to tivo ?SNL-The Best of Presidential Debates? which was really a hoot. I?m sure it was much more entertaining too.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: cliffburton on April 27, 2007, 06:57:45 AM
What?s up chuckles? You sure seem to have a lot of downtime in Baghdad.?

Missed that, but did manage to tivo ?SNL-The Best of Presidential Debates? which was really a hoot. I?m sure it was much more entertaining too.


I don't understand why you want to stir the pot here?  Yesterday was the first Presidential debate, and we'll have another one next week.  I know you like to get your information from talking points and OPEds, but maybe some people want to get their information directly.  Although I never need to justify myself to you, I will be in Iraq in a few months.  Just remember that actions speak louder than words; remember that next time you make a 30,000$ profit off some house you sell to a family.  If you really cared, you wouldn't be making buku bucks in the process.

If you take offense to people actually listening to each candidates idea, then go back to Tin Foil land where everything is beamed into your head and deemed true because you decree it.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on April 27, 2007, 08:30:04 AM
Missed it.  Aw, shucks.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: polluxlm on April 27, 2007, 08:52:56 AM
Politicians rule #1: Never answer the question


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: freedom78 on April 27, 2007, 03:18:43 PM
Politicians rule #1: Never answer the question

You ain't kiddin'!  The first two answers didn't come CLOSE to the question, the third only halfway did.  I think I recall the fourth answer as being the first one that was truthful, and it might have been Kucinich.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on April 27, 2007, 04:50:14 PM
they said barak sucked on french news.
and that he said some harsh things on the iran pseudo-crisis.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: cliffburton on April 27, 2007, 05:26:53 PM
Here is an excellent article the outlines the debate last night for those who missed it.? The Washington Post had an excellent article as well.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18346763/


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 27, 2007, 11:57:35 PM


I don't understand why you want to stir the pot here?

Who said I was stirring the pot? I said I missed it. But I did see the SNL Presidential debates instead.


I will be in Iraq in a few months.  Just remember that actions speak louder than words; remember that next time you make a 30,000$ profit off some house you sell to a family. 


I printed that out, so I can read it by my pool tomorrow.

If you really cared, you wouldn't be making buku bucks in the process.


Oh really?

Are you willing to work for free?


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: sandman on April 28, 2007, 10:09:25 AM
hillary was the best. very well-spoken, straight-forward, clear ideas, and came off as likeable.

biden was strong. seemed to be taking the "nothing to lose approach" (which is probably true).

obama didn't come off as very "presidential". he seemed unsure of himself at times. he appeared to be in over his head next to the more seasoned politicians. but honest which is important, and very likeable.

edwards was annoying. seemed very calculated and phony, obviously following advice from his 2004 consultants.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on April 28, 2007, 10:57:59 AM
Hillary will get the nod. She has the experience of being co-president in the 1990's.  :hihi:


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Drew on April 28, 2007, 11:47:03 AM
hillary was the best. very well-spoken, straight-forward, clear ideas, and came off as likeable. .

Well spoken? Even with her defending the jerk off attempts of a fake southern accent she keeps making? She made herself more out to be a bigot and racist. I guess that does make her straight forward and shows who she really is.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 28, 2007, 12:48:26 PM
Hillary will get the nod.

I hope not.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: freedom78 on April 28, 2007, 09:07:44 PM
Hillary will get the nod.

I hope not.

I second that.  I'm currently favoring Obama and Richardson.


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Bodhi on April 28, 2007, 10:14:46 PM
Hillary will get the nod.

I hope not.

i hope not too, for your sake..because any qualified man will wind up beating her....same goes for obama.....the dems should be smart and run Edwards.....ive said it before...the election is yours for the taking....why would you want to test the waters to see if america is ready for a woman or minority president?? I dont get it....then again you guys did blow the 2004 election...which is beyond comprehension....


Title: Re: US Democratic Presidential Debate
Post by: Booker Floyd on April 28, 2007, 11:14:37 PM
i hope not too, for your sake..

How sweet of you to be concerned about the Democratic party.  I personally hope the Republicans run Tom Tancredo or Sam Brownback.