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Guns 'n' Roses Tour For Australia Still Going Ahead

by Paul Cashmere - April 21 2007

New reports overnight that the Australian leg of the Guns 'n' Roses has been indefinitely postponed are incorrect according to promoter Paul Dainty.

Dainty has once again confirmed to Undercover News that reports emanating out of South Africa last night that the Australia and New Zealand Guns 'n' Roses shows have been postponed following yesterday's decision by the band to pull out of South Africa have not been confirmed.

"I spoke with them last night and they did not tell me that," Dainty told Undercover.

Earlier, Japanese dates were postponed after bass player Tommy Stinson fell down a flight of stairs. Guns 'n' Roses postponed their Japanese dates because of the injury and yesterday also put South Africa on hold.

The South African shows were to take place in Johannesburg and Cape Town on April 27 and May 1st. "The South Africa dates are next week," Dainty said. "The Australian dates are still months away".

Guns 'n' Roses are due to start their Australia tour on June 10 in Perth.

Tickets are still scheduled to go on sale at 9am this Thursday April 26.

Sunday 10 June ? PERTH - Burswood Dome
Wednesday 13 June ? ADELAIDE - Entertainment Centre
Friday 15 June ? MELBOURNE - Rod Laver Arena
Wednesday 20 June ? BRISBANE - Entertainment Centre
Saturday 23 June ? SYDNEY - Acer Arena

http://www.undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=1964

Take that, MOTHERFUCKERS.

 : ok:

So, in conclusion, the last 24 hours of ridiculousness boils down to two festival appearances being canceled. Good. Can we now round up all of the doomsday prophets and throw them down a well? Or should we wait for official confirmation first?

Awesome news. ?: ok:

Now to get my tickets on monday. ?:beer:

I think alot of people will be a bit happier now.
Hopefully there will be an official update from the band soon.

We keep trying to throw them down the well, but the fuckers crawl back up!!

So glad I stayed up till 2 am to see this news ;D  (ok, I didn't stay up to see THIS per sae, but it's still good!)

HALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLELUJLAH AND PRAISE THE LORD,



thank god for that,


wish tommy a speedy recovery     :beer: :beer: :beer:

I guess the Mexico dates are ok too then. Its too bad he didn't heal enough in time for the SA shows. They seemed to be really looking forward to those.

Fuck YES!

What are we going to do with all that very smart theories about an inminent GNR breakup made these last two days? uh?

Haters can start to argue again about how expensive the tickets for the australian shows are...

Thanks for the info man.  : ok:

well this is good to hear. especially for all those fans down under. :beer: :beer:

Dainty is da man!! Nice to read this!!!!!  : ok:

Great news to hear.


I don't know but what he said and the news still doesn't fill me with 100% confidence.

"they did not tell me that" - I don't know, I still sense some uncertainty from Dainty. Poor guy must have lost some hair since signing on GN'R ?:hihi:

Anyways good news until we hear anything otherwise! ?: ok:

Great news! That would flush a lot of "fans" down to toilet.  :D

Still waiting for confirmation on this too, tho.

That is a relief to hear. Not just that they're still making the Australian dates, but that there are no problems within the band.

good news, the exact moment the band decided to start the tour in australia they should've told the fans. the promoter of the show giving this kind of news is ridiculous.

This info should have been handled by the GNR organization 24 hours before any sites ran with the cancellation stories.  Good news for our Aussie friends, nevertheless.

And for mexican fans! This gives them a very big hope!

So, we can assume that the world tour starts in Mexico?

Fanbloodytastic!!

Good to hear my tickets havent gone to waste

My sincere apologies to or Mexican friends as well!  Never safe to assume anything with this band, but for the moment, I'm going to presume that the June 2nd kick-off is still solid

That sounds like promising news, but I don't know why it's making some people feel vindicated. ?I mean the South African dates were still going ahead when they postponed the Japanese dates. ?Look what happened to them. ?Oh and for the record, I'm not hating, just being realistic.

All you people attacking Axl and Tommy last night, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

yeah I'll cry my self to sleep....

hahaha, yea, you meant that.  :hihi:

I doo mean it .. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

As much as I do hope that they tour Australia as scheduled I am not really convinced by that. Sentences like "they did not tell me that" or "the australian dates are still months away" sound not too confident. That sounds like a promoter who really hopes that GnR don`t change their mind but is not really convinced.

Why the fuck is GnR not able to put out a press release and clearify everything, so aussie fans can buy tickets, the promoter can sell tickets without balding!? This is horrible marketing, it is unsettling the fans....and extra lame crises management. Whoever is in charge should be fired immediately; oh I forgot they do not have a manager who could take the rap for em :hihi:

Agreed that 'they did not tell me that' is not the sign of a man that is sure nor confident.

I think the problem right now is that they don't know how long it will take for Tommy to completely recover and be able to play live again. Doctors must have told them it won't be in the next two weeks so they apparently cancelled the S.A dates. They're probably not sure about the Australian dates, so I'd guess they're telling the promoter something like: "For now the shows are still scheduled."
In fact I think doctors will tell whether Tommy will be able to play for the Australian dates or not. I hope he'll recover in time of course, but no one knows for sure.

As for why he can't be replaced for a few dates, there must be a reason for it but we don't know the whole story...

Hah.....I knew it!

I'm just glad there wont be any "GNR HAVE ENDED THEIR CAREER BY DOING THIS AND HAVE LOST ME AS A FAN"...

........well atleast for a couple of days ::)

I thought I was the only one to catch that. I'm still waiting for official word before I get all excited that the tour is back on. (or... never was off.... or something.... lol)

The same here..
..don't put all your eggs in one basket and all that (count chickens etc  :hihi:)
I'll only believe it once they take to the stage and there's bootlegs to confirm it  ;D

I don't really care what shows they cancel, just as long as they show up to one show soon'ish.
I'm curious, as I am sure others are curious to see IF the band has any new songs to perform, as you'd think since CD is complete, they should have a whole bunch of AAA tracks to play for the fans.

Agree. Some people make it look as if Tommy had injured himself on purpose...and then they dare say the band are selfish ::). The guy could suffer a heart attack and they would still be more worried about the release date of CD than in Tommy?s health. All this speaks volumes of those so called "fans".

That's a great point and the rest of us who have been on CD.com and htgth and other GnR sites for years now...telling our friends about the new stuff, burning them demo cd's, getting them back interested in Guns, going to see them in Vegas and walking out blown away...now when I see my friends they ask about any new news on CD, then they laugh and ask if CD will ever be released.? I don't really care as I am still trying to stay positive about everything, my patience has reached it's end but I am still excited to hear the new music if it ever comes out...I won't be going to anymore shows that's for sure...not until Axl shows me he is serious about his fans and right now he has been treating us like Crusty Old Meatloaf!

Double Talkin Jive, release the album Motherfucker, cause I got no more patience!

I think this is great news... The promoter would be the first to know if the shows were not happening (after axl of course)...

Look with this bands reputation, people say tours are canceled, and everyone will believe it...

The shows will go on my friends  : ok:

Here is the official press release from "Big Concerts" - the South African tour promoter.

INJURY FORCES GUNS N' ROSES TO POSTPONE WORLD TOUR

Guns N' Roses have announced that they have postponed the start of their world tour due to an injury to bassist Tommy Stinson. Stinson recently sprained his left wrist in a fall and the injury has not yet healed. As a result, Guns N' Roses will not make their two scheduled performances at MY COKE FEST in South Africa at the end of the month. All other scheduled GN'R concerts (Australia, New Zealand and Japan) have also been postponed indefinitely.[/b]

(There's more to it.  This is just the first paragraph.)

Also, according to Guns N' Roses own official website, the band still thinks they'll be "honoring" the South African concerts they scheduled.

I don't think anybody really knows what's going on in GNR right now. 

I sincerely hope they are able to play some of the concerts they've scheduled.  It sucks for the band -- Robin, Tommy, Pitman, Fortus, Frank, BBF and Dizzy.  They've struggled admirably to keep this band credible.  If we lost the Australian dates too, I think it would be pretty demoralizing for the fans who've stood by Axl for so long.

Really good to hear for the Australian GNR fans!

Im no doctor but I think Tommy's wrist will be fine by June 10.

Some people should shut the fuck up and start to run away. Guns N' Roses will kill them :smoking:

PUT THE CANCELLATIONS ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!! DONT HIDE THE REAL NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1

News is news, theres no getting away from it.
HTDGTH should post all Gn'R news both positive and negative, and not be selective.

It will be interesting to see what kind of seat tickets are still available on ticketek tomorrow....hope the site doesnt flood

Reported at Mygnr...

Ticketek has taken guns off the website, no info about guns on ticketek.com.?

Supposedly, some presales were supposed to start tomorrow.

Since I don't live in Australia, I have no right to be disappointed by this.? ?If it's true.? Who knows.? WAIT -- I'LL GO CHECK GNR'S OFFICIAL SITE...

Oh yeah...

It was off but now is back on...apparently they were preparing for the pre-sale.

Yeah, it's still there:

http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=GUNSNROS07&searchId=fe4ff53e-482f-4d0f-8df2-488fb7ea7c2f

But for how long.  ???

Then there's still hope!

Wouldn't it be cool if Tommy got a wrist transplant in time for those shows?  Otherwise, I fear there's nothing we can do.

Lord knows, Guns N' Roses couldn't even entertain the notion of replacing a member.

ohhhh yeahhhh!!!

Thanks for the news!!

Chinese Democracy is coming baby!!

Cya!

Ok I've been freaking out all weekend about this

But the presale is still there
The only difference is they changed the presale kickoff from 9AM to noon, but whatever
It seems to be alright.. for now

EDIT: I just would have thought, after everything i read here on saturday.. some sort of statement would have come out
I've got people I know who have been following up the ticket sale having heard that the gig is cancelled and even though I try to explain what I know from here they're still reluctant to buy tickets..

Even if they do one show this year that is promising news that the band are still together rocking out! : ok:

Yeah, for sure. Well the Australian tour seems to be going ahead for now..
But that could still change..

Sure the australian tour is still "months away"
But all Tickets go on sale this week.. and if any problems come up in the meantime, I don't know how easily they will get off with a postponement closer to the dates..

Particularly with Tommy's hand injury, I just hope the band and crew involved are sure to go ahead and keep the tour on. As anxious as I am to see the band, if there is any threat to the commitment, I hope they bring this to attention much sooner than later.

Hey, just wanted to chime in. I'm a roadie who worked on last years US Tour, and just got word this weekend that I won't be flying to South Africa. We had a feeling this might happen after hearing about Tommy's hand (nasty!), and I came here to this site to see if I can find out any articles about it. As far as I know, we are still planning to go to Mexico June 1 and continue through Japan.  I can't believe how much you all bash this band! I wanted to post this in the South America thread, where I read some unbelievably crazy things, but don't see a Reply button for it. After working with them last year (even though it is stressful at times) you learn that this band more than others tries to put on a great show every night. Cancelling these shows will cost them close to a million dollars in lost money, from Hotel rooms and flights that were purchased to their gear being shipped (which it already had been).   the band spent 3 weeks in rehearsals prior to Tommy's injury, and were completely ready to head to Japan.  One back line had already shipped to S. Africa and the 2nd back line had shipped to Japan before we found out.  I respect the fact that Axl didn't want to replace Tommy with a fill-in.  I understand that to a lot of you, it doesn't seem like a "band", and is merely Axl and a bunch of hired hands.  However, that is not how it feels inside the camp.  After practically living with this band last year, and getting to see how it really works, I just thought I should let you all know that this is not the bands fault, and you should consider the amount of money they are losing in all of this. This is definitely a band, and is without a doubt the best i've been fortunate enough to work with.  I believe that over the next year this will be  proven to the world.

- Roadie X

So the Australian dates are still cool?


 :peace:

Hey RoadieX that was a great post man, thanks alot for the insight, welcome to the board as well hehe.

Yes, yes, yes, but what we really want to know is how you feel about Die Mannequin.

It'll be interesting to see how the pre-sale goes tomorrow. Hopefully the conflicting reports and such lately won't affect ticket sales/shows going ahead as planned.

thanks roadie x good post  :love: :love: :love: :love: :beer:

Must be hard for people who know and work with the band to see such verbal bashings on forums like this.  sad really

Pre-sales on Ticketek seem to be going good so far.. Gold standing allocation has gone.. but that was limited allocation

Cheers for the insight, RoadieX...much appreciated.

Thanks for the info Roadie X, I hope you can continue to frequent the board and give us some behind the scenes type of information, that most of us would die to know. I bet you have some very cool stories about traveling with the band last year. Yes you will see a ton of bashing about the band on various sites, but you get used to it and look over the typical bullshit bashers. You will also find a group of the most loyal fans any band can ask for. I guess the saying is true for every good person there are 2 assholes. By the way where do you find a job for being a roadie for GnR. If there is ever job openings I know several of us would be beating down the door to apply.  : ok:

Fuck yeah man thanks for posting!

Pretty cool post assuming this is real...Although I don't really feel bad that the band is losing money.  If that was a big problem then they could've gotten a replacement for a couple of dates.  Based upon my "knowledge" of Tommy, I doubt he would've been totally opposed to this. 

I think australian dates will be postponed

but it's only my opinion

Yea Its also hard for people who take time off work, spending what little money they have on flights and hotels, only to have the whole things cancelled at short notice.

great post roadie, it's a shame how so many of these so-called fans take every oppertunity to bash the band, they should be ashamed of themselves.
i suspect they are overly critical towards the band because slash isn't there. how pathetic. i just wish these losers would leave guns n' roses alone.
it's a shame to see such a good band have so many hypocritical, backstabbing and disloyal fans.

Couldnt of said it better myself,

I literally spent 2 weeks wages on the 2 tickets for myself alone,
and now I have to pay my borrower back for the accomodation/air fairs etc,


So Im glad gnr are still coming down, because people who say stuff like:



Obviously have one of 2 things:
1. Money isnt an object,
2. They dont pay for the tickets, there parents do , and/or they never get the chance to see gnr, to realize how expensive it is to make your dreams come true, only to potentially have a nightmare of a unexpected cancellation at a seconds notice.

I'm sorry, but I don't see Slash having anything to do with this argument at all. ::)

If there are legit reasons for cancelled shows, then what's so wrong with letting your fans know the ful story? So like others have mentioned, money isn't wasted on flights and hotel bookings needlessly.

Anyway, I'm not gonna harp on about it, because many others have said the same thing.

I hope Tommy gets better and heals in time, if not, I hope GN'R let us know in enough time too. :beer:

So does this give Axl enough time to get the fucking album released or what??  :rant:  ???

I love guns n roses, dont get me wrong, but they dont care or respect their fans. Thats just the way it is.

Some of my mates were furious they had to wait 4 hours for guns n roses to take the stage, about 2.5 hours after the support band left!!!

Some people heckled Axl as he played his piano solo and axl shouted "if you dont like it, then f*ck off home".

The problem was my mate explained, that the band took so long to take the stage that all the last trains and buses and had long since left.

Maybe gnr do have the power and control over their fans to treat us like crap and watch us still take it... but there comes a point where enough is enough.

and what? give them a dick to wait, what a bunch of assholes are around here since tommy injured his hand, and if they have to wait a stupid train then don't buy the fucking tickets and allow some real fan to get on the show! bunch of pussies

Funny, the band always did that. It's something your friends should have known before going to a GNR concert.

Also, if the Australian tour will still happen, why they have "no care" for the fans?

I think it's funny how a lot of people seems to forget about the canceled dates last year. They gave explanation in every single show, didn't they? But nooooo, this time it MUST be because they want to screw up everything with the fans. ::)

Well said, VodooChild.

And I don't think for a second that Axl or the band WANTS to upset their fanbase. But shit happens. If we just get information in time, all is well.

Look in light of all this..

I got my ticket in the post yesterday  ;D

all of the threads that this could have been posted in were locked, so -

why hasnt there been an official announcement about the cancellation of the s africa shows? gunsnroses.com still says they are playing there. is it not official yet? is there a chance they could still play? i mean, one would think that they would make every effort to notify the fans that they aren't going to be there anymore, especially since they were a headlining act and all.

i havent been paying that close attention to this issue so i dont know what the details are. but it seems to me that all the official sources (gunsnroses.com and the front page of this website) still have the show going on as scheduled.

unless, of course, they know that we have come to expect these kinds of cancellations, and don't feel a need to bother notifying us...

Yeah they definitely need to post official confirmation from the band because there is alot of confusion right now.. Hopefully that will come soon closer to the respective dates that are/aren't going ahead due to the contradicting promoter reports.. official clarification from the band would be very good.. we will have to see..

exactly . the longer this goes on, the more confusion/anger will occur. fans and promoters have no idea what is going on. no promoter will ever touch the band again and fans wont buy tix b/c they think it wont happen. my view is if the shows were going on, the band would have immediately come out and said they are happening to end the confusion. to me, if the band continues to say nothing, it means whatever is out there (all shows off) is correct...oh and on the official site as of monday night....let me quote so there is NO confusion..."Guns N' Roses have announced that they are postponing the start of their world tour, in Japan, but will honor the two MyCoke festival dates in South Africa at the end of the month."

That's true...but maybe the band hasn't straightened it out with all the promoters yet. Likely some shows will be off but others may stay. They can't really inform us every step of the way of every development on negotiations with promoters, band members health issues, label negotiations, etc.
It is unfortunate what has happened....both to the fans and to the band. But there isn't really much to be done but wait a little longer for the clarification.

But I agree, once the sitaution is straightened out, the fans should be informed by the band at the same time the band informs the promoters....