Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I know it's getting extremely frustrating for us fans but the worst case scenario that a lot of us believed is NOT true. Here is an e-mail that BBF sent me tonight.? We should all be very grateful that we have him, especially in times like this.

(He copied and pasted my main question, I didn't just say that. I started with,"I realize you're not the spokesperson for GNR".)



In a message dated 4/20/2007 10:16:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ron_jones88@comcast.net writes:
Almost everybody thinks the band has broken up. Can you atleast answer yes or no to that?
No break-ups, no problems between members or anything like that.

i was going to contact him myself but thought i'd lay off.. that was cool he replied though..
i wonder if he knew what was going on with the tour though..
anyway no matter. thanks.

Maybe this will calm down some people around here. I think the 06 tour showed this band is solid. Unfortunately, nothing ever goes really smoothly with GNR, it has always been like that. It makes things more interesting.

Yeah you really can't blame people for freaking out though.  Hopefully everything is well and the tour will go on as planned in June.  We'll just have to wait and see.

I love Bumblefoot. He's such a great guy.



1. We want Tommy back and in good health and spirts.
2. We just want reassurance everything is okay, and there really isn't more to this than what is said about Tommy's ability to perform.
3. We all understand Tommy's role and his vital role in this band.
4. We want to see the band have success and be on top once again.

That's all most of us really want.

ha! - speak for yourself. I want a whole lot more.
A Ferrari F50 for starters  :hihi:

I just want the album!

Cool, I want to see them as soon as posible! ;D

i was trying to be positive and politically correct... aroung here if you're not your automatically considered a traitor!!!!  ::)

I'll take a Bugatti Veyron... ummm.... silver please.   ;D

p.s. a copy of CD in the glove box would just set it off tho...  :beer:

Bumblefoot says there are no problems in GNR

..and if there were problems in Gn'R do you think for one minute he'd tell you  :hihi:

i wouldnt say interesting...more like frustrating

Bumblefoot says what he is told he can say, just like everyone else on planet GN'R

BF can say what he likes about Gn'R providing he doesn't say a thing  ;D

You know what?  I'm sure Ron is a nice guy.  That's all well and good. 

It doesn't explain anything.  No "problems between members" doesn't explain inactivity. 
Why do you think he is doing so many interviews and self-promotion?  Because he knows he has a small window of opportunity to promote his career.  I don't blame the guy.  But that doesn't mean he knows anything that is going on with Axl.  He's an employee.

Do you really think Ron would go over Axl's head and break big news about the band in a random email to a random fan?

Things might very well be fine in the band.  But BBF's email doesn't really prove anything to me.

Right, because Ron Thal never ever gave an interview before joining GNR. You think he gives interviews to random podcasts and two-bit metal shows because he really thinks it's going to put "Bumblefoot" in the public eye? Copies of "Normal" are going to start flying off the shelves?

Can we get this straight just once; The money these guys make just from touring with GNR is probably exponentially more than they've ever made from their solo albums or affiliations with other bands. The career benefit of being in GNR is being in GNR. That's it. Not even Slash managed to parlay that into anything more than a mediocre "solo" career (Look at the success of VR relative to "Slash's Snakepit" or Bluesball). I don't know why you'd believe that the band are laboring under the delusion that any success they may have with GNR will carry over into other projects. Especially when, for example, Ron is spending more time talking about his contributions to Q*Ball than GNR.

It's all about exposure, do you think Bumblefoot was asked to do so many radio interviews and such before he was in GnR?

 No, it doesn't mean he's going to be a breakout star after this, but it might give him some very good connections, some chances to put his own music out there to bigger distributions.  Why is that so hard to understand?  Being a musician is rough, these guys are older, some with families, you have to take your opportunity where you can get it.  That's why they are in GNR, not because they love Axl. 

Make your mind up, is he doing more interviews by choice for exposure or because more people are asking him to do interviews? Don't you think he did interviews for exposure prior to joining GNR? What, you're paying more attention to what the man does now and so you feel comfortable in criticizing him for being as accessible now as he has apparently always been?

I agree with most of your second paragraph but your point seems to be muddled. Are you saying that they're in GNR because being a musician is rough and therefore they have to grab such an opportunity when it comes along or are you saying that they have  to grab the opportunity to join GNR so that they can promote their efforts outside of the band? Because you seem to be saying both and if the initial statement is true then the latter is a moot point, isn't it? Being in GNR is a chance to ply their trade and make a (fairly) regular paycheck, yes? And it's an opportunity to be more successful (ie; make more money) than any of their other projects, yes? Then why would they also being falling over themselves to promote other projects (which you're insinuating in Ron's case specifically) during their tenure in GNR if during their tenure in GNR they're making more money from that one source than all of their other projects? Especially as the visibility gained by being in GNR fades so quickly once a member leaves.

I didn't like when Ron joined GNR, because for me 2 guitar players was enough. But this guy proved with his simplicity and kindness that he is a true GNR member, and I can't think about this new band without him now! :) And of course, he's been showing us a lot of respect, by communicating with people of GNR forums.

What's if they love the band?
From the sound of your post, it must be one of the steadiest and safest bands.
I do find it so hard to understand why so many people can read other's mind, especially when they don't know them in person......

I read another post, that said the problem is legal issues ... that sounds like the most plausible reason.

Okay...Let's assume the reason is 'Legal Issues'.  What could they be?

Well, both, duh.? As to the second question, I suppose he would have had he been asked, but he wasn't was he??


I'm not criticizing him at all, I'm just looking at the "band" realistically.? Like I said, I'm sure he's a perfectly nice fellow.? But the reason they are in GnR as I'm sure thousands of other musicians would have done given the opportunity, is to make a steady paycheck and use the publicity of being in GnR to further their own careers.? That's not a knock.? But let's not pretend as if these guys have any insight into what's going on with the album or Axl, they obviously don't.?


Yeah, well, I've been through this with you before.  You want to find every reason under the sun to explain away every delay and oddity of Axl's career.  To me, it's pretty much common sense what's going on here.  I don't need to be a mind reader to see what's in front of my face.

Ron Thal is a nice guy, but it's pretty clear he knows jack and shit.

It's also pretty clear nobody in the band really seems to know anything that is going on. How many times did we read, "Brain is still in the band, everything is fine".

I mean, shit, the GnR camp has still not officially acknowledged that Brain is no longer in the band even though Ferrer has been the drummer for months now.

We're never going to get a straight answer on anything, if GNR ever actually plays another show and a new bassist is on stage, we're still going to hear, "Oh no, Tommy is still in the band, don't worry."

maybe so, but he didnt say what the problem is and there is a major problem here.."what we got here is a failure to communicate."

I think his biggest merit to this band is how he interacts with the world outside planet GNR.

His shredding, though sometimes fitting, is most of times out of place and irritating. He is technically very talented, but many times I feel like he has no clue as to what he is actually doing inside the song when he lets it rip with his ultrafast shredding.

wow...I agree. He shreds more than Bucket and it seems out of place a lot of times. Bucket seemed to be very much in place and knew when to let it rip and when to slow it down.

Ron is a good guy though and I like his parts in the new Chinese Democracy from last tour.  :peace:

Ron is a standup guy.  I agree, though, that Bucket's shredding seem to be more tasteful in terms of fitting in within the context of the songs live.

Ali

Why? 

GN'R 2.0 are horrible planners.  They can't plan a tour properly or release an album.  We've known this for years.  But there was no indication they ever broke up.

They did a pretty good job in 2006.

Really?

When did the CD come out?? Did I miss something?

"Planning a tour properly" as in touring AFTER the album has been released.? Touring on internet-leaked demos and 15 - 20 years old material isn't the best idea for a band that's trying to move forward.

Pretty Good?  Maybe I just expected GNR to do better than another aborted Chinese Democracy World Tour without Chinese Democracy.

Oh well.  Apparently, I was wrong.

How was there an aborted tour in 2006?  They played the Cali shows after announcing they would not do the January shows in isolation.  That's not aborting an entire tour.

Ali

'Planning a tour properly' doesnt mean that they'll plan properly a tour like you want them to do. They did a successful tour last year. that's what matter. chinese democracy will be out soon. your oppinion about 'properly planned tour' doesnt matter.
HAVE A NICE DAY.

Everybody is so concerned about an answer from an email. Take it for what it is worth, he responded to a fan's email, it was short and sweet, maybe he had to go to bed, or to the bar, so what if it doesn't say much, take it for the truth, nobody here has reason to think he'd lie

I completely disagree. bucket's solo just didn't fit in some musics. like nightrain solo... he played like he was playing a ''new metal'' song, lol. Ron plays the solo more like a 'rock' solo, old Gn'R style, while bucket is more eletronic (on nightrain solo).
he did shred a lot when he was 'starting', now his solos suit like a glove in most of the songs.