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 Duz n e 1 actually like marilyn manson? my fav song is beautiful people.

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Kinda gone off him a bit of late, but used to be a big fan and i've seen him live too

Fav song would be 'last day on earth' - atleast i think thats what its called

He's got a knack for a good tune but musically seems to have lost his direction of late

Fav album - M. Animal : ok:

fav song of the top of my head.......Angel With The Scabed Wings

ye i no wt u mean Izzy. but ive only just got into him so i hav a while till i go off im. thx 4 postin on ma message board. i only set it up 2day.

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Like Clintron i think Mechanical Animals is probably his strongest work, while Holywood has the big hits, MA shows his lyrical ability - its just good songs without the satanic elements

I've never been impressed by the first two albums - 'Portrait' and 'Children' - a little more surreal than i can deal with

naaah... I dont like him, hes to.... i dunno, Scary!!!

ye drama_qween he luks kinda scary. i heard a rumour dat he eats children. lmao




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My favorite MM albums are "Antichrist Superstar" and "Mechanical Animals"

Marilyn Manson is my hubby's favorite artist.  He rarely passes up an opportunity to rub it in that his favorite artist is actively producing new music, while my favorite artist (Axl/GNR) isn't. 

I dig on MM though, and my favorite tune is User Friendly.  I love the line "I'm not in love but I'm gonna fuck you until somebody better comes along." 

I also love beautiful people, and I love his re-make of Personal Jesus.

hey ye kl btw luv ya pic timothy. n tell ur "hubby" rok on.



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its not like on a phone where it costs you more money to type all the letters.

Sorry to be a prude, but reading that gave me a headache.

lol....sry i dnt alwayz hav a lot 2 say.



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I think you missed the point dude it wasn't that you said very little (well you did but that doesn't matter) it's that you shortened you're words...making it a bit of a blag...e.g. the sentence you've just posted would be easier to understand if it said; lol....sorry i don't always have a lot to say.

I like Manson a lot.  I have all of the albums and a few different bootlegs.  And I might have to agree with some of the people above that Mechanical Animals is his best.  Anti-Christ and Holywood are so great to though.  He's a pretty decent musician and people never really give him the respect he deserves, cause he is so "scary."  My girlfriend won't even let me listen to him around her.  She seriously gets pissed off at me.  But her favorite things to listen to are John Mayer and Tim McGraw, nuff said.

i see what you mean stoned i get it now. thx dude.



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He clearly dosent

 ;D  :hihi:  :hihi:  :hihi:  :hihi:  :hihi:   :hihi:  :hihi:  :hihi:  :hihi:  :hihi:  :hihi:

my frend rely is comical

I think Manson's great. Favorite album has to be Holywood-In the Valley of the shadow of Death.

i dont like him as much as i used to. these are songs that are cool. beautiful people, coma white, fight song, dont like the drugs, disposable teens (does any1 else like this song. alot of people have told me they hate that song, i think it rocks)

Weird freak. :P

And ur a GNR fan - Manson isn't half as weird as Axl :P

I Agree!!!!

na. im wierda than both of em. cuz my favourite food is milk.

its tru he asked is mom 4 milk 4 lunch once. lmao. im wierder.



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I wouldn't dare argue....

i know what you mean Izzy but im wierder.




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i think that he is a freak...
i mean apparently he took out ribs so that he could suck himself off!!
thats a bit wacked...
i am not really a fan of his music... but i do like the song " Beautiful People"

beatiful peoples the best song!!!





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Manson's great....one of the few people out there who actually thinks while creating music....i love his albums but Mechanical Animals has to be my favorite..
only thing i don't like bout him is the way he keeps firing bandmates, first twiggy n now John 5....man 5 was talented..:/

apparently (source:this months Kerrang) he has quit music as he wishes to paint instead and is tired of working for a corporation....

So thats the end of him

Strange, but i think he's made the right decision, he wasn't getting any better

God i used to hate Marilyn Manson, but once i became a Nine Inch Nails fan and heard all that stuff about Reznor being friends with him and helping out on Antichrist Superstar and once i got past the image? i figured i'd actually sit down and listen to the music, which is actually quite good. by the way, read Manson's essay on Columbine, it is amazing, the guy is a genious.

Mechanical Animals is flat out awesome, i love every song and it's one of my fave albums. The glam-influence and image of that era was just brilliant and it took alot of balls switching from industrial/goth/metal scary image and sound of Antichrist Superstar to the glammed up Mechanical Animals.
Antichrist Superstar is ok, a bit out there and abrasive for my tastes but it does have a good amount of quality material, as well as well as the musical and lyrical masterpiece "Man That You Fear" HolyWood is pretty cool, a very long and grueling listen but its worth it (19 songs) and Golden Age of Grotesque is like, non-depressing Manson, fun to listen to since he kinda pokes fun at himself in a way and the lyrics are sub-par for him, but overall its an ok album just compared to his others it doesnt sound that great.

i really respect him as a musical artist and i think he takes a lot of shit from the press for nothing. If you actually sit down and give his music a chance it is quite rewarding.

I think hes good. Very normal when hes interviewed, sounds intelligent.

I love the 80's pop feel on Mechanical Animal.......the whole fuckin' album rocks man, end of story!! :beer:

i bought Lest WE Forget and its a bloody amazing album. Tainted Love is a bit ruined

yea i cannot stress enough how awesome that album is. I really wasn't expecting much and i was absolutely floored by it haha. i  love the whole glam influence, fucking brilliant and unexpected.....

He said somewhere that he would love to be a primary school teacher

I dunno about you guys - but I wouldn't let him in a 10 mtr radius teaching my children. alone.  :nervous:

I read his autobiography awhile back, "The long road out of Hell," and I must say he is a real fucked up guy.  Real fucked up.  Crazy as shit.  It was a great read though.  He even comments on Axl a few times in it, really negative comments.  Fuck it.  And you can never judge the music by the lifestyles the musicians may be living.  Music is music and Manson is a pretty damn good musician.

I think marilyn manson is the God of Pop.
his (good) songs are damn catchy pop songs.

and actually that is what he is good at: pop catchy songs.

MM made me wait for GNR a lot. 99 - 2003 , but then i got tired of it. i once in a while listen to some stuff, but only my fav songs, not whole cds

best song would be on MA
user friendly, new model <  britney spears tunes with nice glam / rock / indus feel < perfect pop.

even on his last boring album, i sometime think i'm listening to britney (Saint !! better of 2 evils...)

i saw him live this june 2005 and he sucked ass.


overall - great pop artist. funny lyrics. catchy rythms.

I respect Manson for being the genious that he is, the university graduate and the intellectual capability has has, but I don't agree with a damn thing he sais. I'm Catholic, and I don't so much fear him, but my religious tastes just differ from his, being the utimate extreme of my faith. This is probably the main reason I don't really listen to his music. Despite that, I did see an interview with him in "Bowling for Columine" and I'd have to say that he knows what he's talking about, and he does have good points.
 
As far as musicwise, I don't mind a few of his songs, "mOBSENE", and "Beautiful People", but generally I don't have much taste in that Satanic musical department.

Yes you do, don't lie? :P

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Priest, Maiden, Slayer, and Ozzy don't count.  :P  :hihi:

I have alot of tiem for Marilyn Manson.  He alone helped waiting for a GNR album a little easier.  By entertaining me for a few years.  Love his work up to Holywood.


But his last album really missed the mark for me, i have really tried to get into it.  But bar literally a couple of songs the rest just seems very pale in comparison to what he has delivered before.  I think he needs to be brave and really out do himself when he makes another album.  Maybe get back with Trent?

But as i say i have alot of time for him and he's playing Leeds and Reading Festival this weekend i think?  So hope some of it is on tv.

i agree somewhat, The Golden Age of Grotesque isn't terrible, but compared to his other works it really is dissapointing and below average.? He probably won't be making another album for a while but i agree, he really needs to out do himself when he makes another album because his sound just isn't interesting anymore.... i guess thats the best way to put it....

kool. he also wanted 2 be Willy Wonka badly according to www.imdb.com   in the new remake of charlie and the chocolate factory. He'll hav the oompa loompas singing mOBSCENE  ;D

Maybe if he let his guitarist do solos he could have some more kick.

Some metalheads slam me down for not liking MM. "Oh why , cuz he's the anti-christ?" I am Catholic but the reason I don't perfer his music is because I don't think it sounds good. His voice annoys the hell out of me. I also don't like what I have heard about him , like the security gaurd incident at ozzfest. :nervous: Also my friend told me when he went to Ozzfest 2002 or 03(I'm not sure which one), he asked a random male fan to come on the stage to give him a blowjob. :puke:

marilyn manson has made some damn good music.
mechanical animals, especially is  :drool:

i like his stuff, mostly. not his recent stuff really.. personal jesus wasn't all that great, and well golden age of grotesque, it's an ok record, but i pretty much never have any motivation to listen to it ever. he's done a lot of great stuff, but that wasn't it.
it's sad, he's almost becoming obsolete. it's like he's accomplished what he set out to do, and then, well, what do you do afterwards? i wish he'd reinvent himself again a la mechanical animals (that was gorgeous) but i mean, he seems to be happy milking off his past successes and trying to remain cool with the mtv crowd. sad really, because that man is damn talented. even if he's not the best singer or musician out there, there was a time, when he was relevent, and great.

yea Mechanical Animals is one of my fave albums, AntiChrist Superstar is REALLY growing on me though, i love "Angel With The Scabbed Wings" fucking brilliant song..

i still can't make up my mind on HolyWood, theres just so much material its overwhelming, it's got some good material but i still like Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals better.

awh man i fucking love angel with the scabbed wings

there's some really awesome stuff on antichrist superstar
it's solid
man that you fear is really amazing too


the thing i don't like about holywood, is that it was basically a step back evolution-wise, to appeal to his i'm-so-gawth fans. some of it is incredible though (coma black, the nobodies, place in the dirt, lamb of god..)
though a couple of songs are just downright disposable and don't add anything. i think it just needed some good trimming really..

marilyn manson is britney spears !!! he is the god of pop !

I listen for a first time Mechanical Animals on my personal cd player on the top of the roof of my house. In the same time we watch sun eclipse and it was great moment.

My favorite MM tracks are The Beautiful People, Tainted Love, mOBCENE, Fight Song.

so true.......

btw, i think his cover of "Sweet Dreams" is so incredibly sinister and badass...i love it!!

i love marilyn manson-  rock icon for damn sure-
my favorite songs be: User Friendly, Lunchbox, 1996 and his cover of I put a Spell on you-    damn that guy likes his cover songs huh,     

I read somewhere that he has 18 songs ready to release, he is just taking a break for now and is waiting for the right time to release them as an album.

Burzum will always be the most evil man in music, and he was around before MM. Case closed.

Does that make him better than Manson?  I don't think so. case closed.

Does that make him better than Manson?  I don't think so. case closed.

No, his music makes him better than Manson.  :P

I haven't listned to Manson in a while, but have been revisiting his albums as of late. Great stuff. One of the best metal bands of the last ten years.

which album are u referring to? Antichirst Superstar i presume?

All of them. I think "HolyWood" may be his best overall. The only Manson CD I'm not nuts about is "Portrait of an American Family."

i have to agree. i think portrait of an american family was him just trying to find his voice, it's not as melodic or complex as a lot of his later work. i like all his albums except like.. portrait, smells like children (minus a few songs) and golden age of grotesque, which isn't even a bad album, it's just... sub par compared to something like mechanical animals, holywood or antichrist.
i would like to reiterate how amazing i think mechanical animals is. and how awesome are the coma songs! (coma black / coma white)

"Cake and Sodomy" is a classic though. I had a friend in High School that had a shirt that said "God of Fuck" and he had to turn it inside out. :hihi:

Some people on this site once commented that "AntiChrist Superstar" was like "The Downward Spiral part II." I Agree with that comment.

BTW, does anyone else think Manson made up that shit about meeting Axl at a U2 concert and telling him about "look at your game girl." Also why would Axl go up to (then) a perfect stranger and tell him about all his "?Psychological problem.? Seems like Manson wrote that tounge-in-cheek.

i never heard about that, explain...

Indeed....seems very strange.

It's in Manson's book. Claims to have met Axl at a U2 show in '92. Axl was telling Manson about his "Psychological problems." Manson told him about "Look at your Game Girl."

well technically not about 'look at your game girl' just that charles manson released an album...
personally, i don't really know if i believe it or not. it says in the book that manson told him about charlie as a musician, and six months later axl put the charles manson song on the spaghetti incident.
i don't know, it's possible, i mean the fact that charles manson was a musician is/was not a very well known fact, most people just assume he killed people n' stuff, which, he didn't actually kill anyone... he got people to kill for him. but anyway, marilyn manson, a big part of his inspiration is charlie, hence the name marilyn manson, and he covered manson songs before axl did, sooo i dunno... however i believe that axl dishing about his psychological problems to some dude he just met who wasn't even all that famous at the time is somewhat unlikely. that part was probably exaggerated. but who knows.

NEW ALBUM!!
SOON SOON SOON
LOOK:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1512539/20051028/marilyn_manson.jhtml?headlines=true

also good reads:
MTV article on why he is the only true artist today:
http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/manson_marilyn/news_feature_060603/
FUCKING BRILLIANT essay response to columbine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021218002201/http://www.rollingstone.com/news/printer_friendly.asp?nid=8050&cf=54

i am so excited for this new album, i wonder what will be his influences this time? i mean he usually re-creates himself so i wonder what image and sound it will be....so pysched... the mans got  a really hot wife now Dita Von Teese, holy shit she is blazing

anyway guys check that stuff out and tell me what you think  : ok:

thanx a lot. that'll be cool

eh..

I fuckin HATE Manson...  he sucks ass!

and now maybe i havent seen/read the same interveiws as you, but the few ive seen he sounded like a fuckin idiot!

Please, dont EVER compare Manson with Trent!!
not ment to offend anyone, so please dont jump on me..  but ..  i hate him... 
not even scary..just ..stupid...

listen to Mechanical Animals ? it will change your mind, it definitely changed mine. i used to despise him but if u actually listen to the music u will understand how great he is....

also very smart too, this is from Bowling For Columbine-

Michael Moore: If you were to talk directly to the kids at Columbine what would you say to them if they were here right now?
Marilyn Manson: I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would listen to what they have to say and that's what no one did.

now u have to admit that is a smart answer...

Manson for president!

Manson said about 3 months ago he was finished with music as he hated working for the evil record label - guess that state of mind lasted untill his next fix!

I think Manson needs to really work on this new album, he's been slipping into irrelevance for some time now, he needs something bold and shocking.

he needs to w8 until he knows he loves his own recvords not release for the hell of it

true, but it has been two years and he has alot of material hes been working on all along so we'll see, im predicting an early '06 release

Yeah - but Manson was a nobody in '92 - how would he even have got close to Axl and why would Axl have talked to him?

Manson was there with Trent...

and the plot thickens LOL..... i dunno i guess its believable........

I dont mind manson my fav song has gotta be this is the new shit

that song is hilarious he basically pokes fun at mainstream music and how superficial it is. The song basically lays out the formula for a pop hit today, listing all the worn out topics, brilliant.

thats the beauty of manson

hm....actually it puts a bad taste in my mouth...(wait..? no it doesnt cause im typin it not sayin it....*sigh of releif*)
but that was a good answer..? but by no means do i respect him..
he's just far to hateful....? ?i think someone that hateful deserves no respect an i never could respect him.....

but..maybe ill give some of those songs a try...
WHOA!! WHOA!!!? dont go there!!!!!? ? :o

well...  as long as its in America..  it really doesnt effect me....   :P

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well i respect ur opinion man im just saying that if u actuallyl listened to his music or read his columbine essay u'd be surprised how wrong the general media is about him... hes a very intelligant man...

i used to be ignorant till i hurd his songs. he's very honest and has had a terrible life. It's the media that are fucked in the head not Manson. i honestly feel he's sane person.

i respect you peoples opinions...
im not ignorant and i DONT buy into anything the media says..
that is just the way i feel, i dont think he's insane at all....  i think he wants people to think hes insane
and i will check out the columbine essay, but  i just really dont like his music or so far him...

i will also check into MA a little and see if anything changes
   
an im sorry if i offened anyone..thats just the way i feel

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ok, i just read the Columbine essay, and yeah, i gotta agree, that was good...

however, now ill say i dunno if its been twisted by the media or what but some hings ive HEARD he said and did..i still just cant respect him.... 

and thats just fuckin confusin cause i heard him on multiple occasions glorifying Hitler who murdered thousands!

but..yeah, apart from where he makes religion sound like ignorance, that was a good writing..
 
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he was probably grorifying hitler due tothe fact he helped the nation by taking germany out of debt... He was a murderer and all but he was great even though he was evil . He was a great evil person haha

when has he ever glorified hitler? Thats news to me, i doubt he did, if he did the media would have made a bigger deal about it haha.

but anyway i think he is an excellant songwriter and has three concept albums on his resume, one of them Mechanical Animals is quickly becoming one of my favorite albums ever, i heard it during the summer and liked it but it is just starting to click how deep that album is and i fucking love it. he also has great stage presence.

he's also an individual, not many people are

u can say that again.......

he's also an individual, not many people are

LOL yea, i thought u would repeat it haha.

anyway wats ur favorite song?

MECHANICAL ANIMALS RULES!

Amazing album and image.
Anything else i like on greatest hits.

yep, fantastic. the sound is just so cool and its such a departure from anything he ever done, a real "fuck you" to all the people who accused him of just being a scary industrial goth shock rocker lol.

it really sucks that Twiggy Ramirez left he was the fucking man, and a very very integral part of Manson's sound. He left after HolyWood right?

There's a brand new lenghty inerview with Manson available at Heirophant:
http://www.mansonusa.com/
75% Of it is typical Manson; endless amount of vague babbling  that makes exactly fuck all sense and is there just so his 17 year old goth fans could pretend they are smart&bright unique snowflakes by claiming they actually "get" what he is saying and then analyze it in pretentious and longest fashion in various forums.:D

In a nutshell,
-  Manson is actually going to make a brand new album.
-  Trent is still being evil to him:

Q:Have you considered re-releasing any of your older albums with remastered tracks, b-sides, and other goodies? Antichrist Superstar turns ten years old next year. Is there any possibility of fans getting to hear an improved mix of this milestone album in the future?

R:I?d like to say yes, but there?s a legal matter pending that I can?t say too much about. It?s very hard to believe this, but representatives from Nothing Records have indicated that they are not able to find, or have lost the master recordings to my first three records. It?s not something that you would ever let happen in musical history. I would imagine something like that could only be intentional. If not intentional, it would have to be done only through complete disregard. Now that Nothing Records doesn?t exist, I think there?s only one of two people responsible for that. Out of those two people, there?s only one that really has an opinion of me that is voiced very often.

I?m often painted as the bad guy in a relationship ? in most relationships. I will not deny that I am an asshole at times. I will not deny that I?m probably completely insane, and most people will agree with that. I don?t betray people that I care about. I don?t forsake people that are important to me and I would do anything for someone I love. I don?t know what kind of people do things like that. It?s erasing history. It?s erasing your life?s work. It?s killing a part of you. I don?t know how to react to it. I?d just like to wait and see what happens because it may be just a terrible mistake. I would hope so for those involved.

mOBSCENE or ROCK IS DEAD. rock is dead is the first rock/metal song i heard in my life. i was 10 at the time and since then, i've been hooked to diff kinds of metal n rock. and mOBSCENE, well it kicks ass so much it's fucking OBSCENE!

Yes i beleive he did. He was replaced with the dude from shotgun messiah. John 5 also left, dunno who replaced him but hes gone now aswell.

Eh?

He had a normal upbringing.

Yeah he did have a normal life. He had parents which let him do anything lol.

ehhhh...
i understand why he does what he does, however, i still dont like alot of his views...
(aside from killing puppies, being minister at church of satan, WHY KILL THAT PUPPY!!  he did nothin to him!!  :'( )

and if i can, ill look for what i read about whatever he said about Hitler, maybe i misinterpreted it, but ill look...


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from what i've read, he hasn't had a typical life (i dont believe the word normal unless its the line a ray of light refracts towards/away from) but he got raped at 4.

a few things-
he never killed any puppies
he's a revend crowned by anton le vey in the church of satanism. we're not talkin' sacrificing goats and virgins here, most people don't even know what anton le vey's satanism is. it's more of a life philosophy, social darwinism, survival of the fittest, it's not about worshipping Satan, it's about worshipping yourself because man is responsible for his own good and evil and that satan is just a manifestation created by humans to justify their baser nature.

i'm pretty sure he's never glorified hitler

his upbringing wasn't 'normal'
definitely not 'normal'
he didn't grow up in some crazed cult where they worshipped satan or anything but
it's not like he was just your average kid one day who decided to become Marilyn Manson.. it was more of a transformation.

i dont understand what the church of satan is.

i just watched rock am ring 2003 and he kicks john 5 in face then john 5 goes totally insane....its crazy.

was that on tv or something or do u have a copy of it? i'd really like to get some clips of manson live.

Thats not a good show to base him off. Id go 2001 or before. Anything after he got all fat and his voice sounded crappy.

Mechanical animals era is a good look, all glam, its mad.

Regarding the show, it is sometimes shown on MTV, but that one is rarely due to the incident. I downloaded it along time ago. Never even watched it before, noticed it was there put it on, found it to be a poor performance.

C'mon, how old r u? He hasn't killed puppies or abducted school children or any of the rest. Don't believe everything you hear.

hey guys i found an awesome review for Mechanical Animals thought u might like it:


 
?                                            Shock. Cock. Rock. Marilyn Manson. No

Well, yes. Usually I'd wear a mask of cynicism and merely say Marilyn Manson (the man and the band) aren't too worth of praise. But the first time I heard 'Mechanical Animals' I arrived at a surprising turning point. I began to realise that away from the mass market shock image that the kiddies love so well, well, somewhere in there was both groovy music sharing a depth with The Beatles (ie "catchy" "disposable") and above that pretty fine lyrics.

'Great Big White World' sets about making the long play take flight. I have to take my hat off, aside from sounding great I really am quite partial to the lyrics. My hat shall now remain off until the end. Far from being shock-cock-rock this song is an articulate and thought-provoking examination of a world that has lost all its colour, or rather has been drained of all its colour. Naturally in some respects this is a modern topic for a song, and in other respects it's like some old folk song suggesting the world isn't as good as it once was. This is the thing with Marilyn Manson, whilst some do their best to label him as a symptom of our times others see clearly that he is far from post-modern and owes more to times gone by such as the 60s movement and 70s intellectual rock.

This album has said to be rooted in David Bowie's soil. Shudder. The fact seems to me as being that when Marilyn Manson isn't trying to be Alice Cooper he indeed equals if not surpasses the standard set by David Bowie. This album proves that away from trying to shock, the pretender of darkness really can write darn decent songs.

People tend to avoid the words concept and album these days, which puzzles me because if you look in the right places you'll find a plethora of stunning concept albums. For instance Pink Floyd's 'Animals' ought to be as well respected as George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' such is the artistry and political bite. 'Mechanical Animals' is certainly a concept album to my mind, a brilliant one. The name itself reveals the concept; this is a tour-de-force expos? of the dehumanisation of modern life. "The living are dead," sings he. The cover art is rather stunning also; an asexual Manson appears in a startlingly dehumanised grey synthetic costume. The message is strong and coherent throughout the album, it could have easily fallen flat on its face and ended up looking pretentious but they have pulled it off in fine fashion.

'Mechanical Animals' is filled with catchy glam rock songs, the rest of the band are constantly maintaining a quality and power in the music that really delivers the lyrics to pretty much their full potential. A rare feat in itself. 'The Dope Show' sticks in mind as well as a Beatles pop song, it's that catchy yet isn't quite as cheesy. 'Mechanical Animals' the title track is brilliant, it sets the mood of the whole album. The fourth track 'Rock Is Dead' is a fine example of why reviewers often mention glam rock when talking of this album. It isn't the Slade style cringe-worthy glam rock, it is just that songs like 'Rock Is Dead' aren't afraid to be both ultra-catchy and utterly overproduced, and naturally over the top. It's a great song and tells us that, "God is in the TV." Yes!

The modern day angst continues with 'Disassociative' that at times almost verges on all out space rock, slightly less drugged but similar to something you could imagine the mighty Hawkwind spewing out of their mashed up heads. Ah Hawkwind! Wish I'd been alive then. -an aside: I picked up 'Masters Of The Universe' for ?1.99 in the HMV bargain bin, and found it to be one of the best albums I've ever bought. Spaced out.- Speaking of which, 'The Speed Of Pain' has a very Hawkwind style computerised voice but the genius is having an acoustic guitar at the root of the mix. I even hear backing singers in there somewhere, once more proving to the whole world that sometimes you really can consider overproduced music as good music. God forgive me. Bob.

'Posthuman' is something that I'd like to lick. I like to lick things I like, see. Lines such as, "God is just a statistic," and even better, "God is a number you cannot count to," really float the boat that is me. The music is manic and in keeping with things rather unnatural sounding, it pounds away like a big mental computer going ape-poop in a big mental robot factory. Or something. 'I Want To Disappear' sounds just like T-Rex. I mean, "just like," T-Rex. It's spooky and rather nails the whole Glam Rock tag. And so on.

All I can say about 'I Don't Like The Drugs (But The Drugs Like Me)' is: "yeah baby." Actually there is a lot more to this song than what one may presume from the title/chorus line. I think it's best explained by the following lyric: "There's a hole in our soul that we fill with dope, and we're feeling fine." And perhaps I'll convince you what a brilliant song this is with another quote: "Raised to be stupid, taught to be nothing at all." This a provocative commentary on the hopeless and unnatural society which we persons have built up around ourselves. And check out the backing singers, lovely touch. 'New Model No. 15' continues, "I'm as fake as a wedding cake," and so on. 'User Friendly' is a groovy name for meaningless whorish sex. The lyrics, "Use me like I was a whore / Relationships are such a bore / delete the ones you've fucked," are in my view spectacular. It's sad; it captures the mood of disillusioned youth perfectly, as the entire album does.

'Fundamentally Loathsome' features rather tender vocals (well, compared to usual). Makes me giggle anyway. Ah, hate you feel, but love is not real. Bless him. And so on. 'The Last Day On Earth' is by now standard and doesn't go anywhere new. Not that I'm suggesting the album is too long, or too samey. It isn't. I just wanted something to say. The intro to 'Coma White' sounds just like something else but I can't think of what. Shame. Cool all the same. Actually to stop being flippant for a second, this is a really moving song. It captures hollowness in drugs dependence and explains that no matter how many drugs you take to escape the world you can never escape yourself. Whilst certainly not an anthem, it is a darn fine song to end on.

~~TIP~~
Stick 'Mechanical Animals' in a CD-ROM and find a program that shows you two paintings. Oh and the tip? - don't bother. Arf.
~~TIP~~

Listen: If Marilyn Manson didn't market themselves by grabbing hold of cheap symbols and pretending to be Alice Cooper not only would they have artistic integrity but also.. nobody would know about them at all. See?

This is a challenge. Not because it's hard to listen to -it's very easy to listen to, you could even play it to your Gran, no go on, do!- but because you have to put aside your own prejudices about little Gothy kids or rather brats whom you know worship Marilyn Manson. They make him the Anti-Christ Superstar. Well forget that, he's about as much of an Anti-Christ as Freddie Mercury was. What he is however is a reasonably talented songwriter and singer with a whacky pop-metal band behind him. The result isn't the crumble of society, it is rather a fine album that even verges on the camp at times. It's simply a joy to listen to.

To go deeper than that isn't really necessary. But if you do dig in what you will find is a surprising depth to the lyrics. They capture a certain body of thinking upon these post-modern times that is neither post-modern nor old. Whilst the post-modernist doesn't really seem to care, Manson seems to present his anger at what a crock of shit life and the world is. In that sense Manson to me represents one of the most romantic artists around right now. Hoorah for him. And for us being able to listen to him. Moaning at least is caring, which is better than most manage.


My hat. Blown away.
 

ok, first, never said sacrificed, you people seem to think that just cause i dont like him i misunderstand him
ive read alot about him, I DONT LIKE HIM I DONT LIKE HIS MUSIC!

HE SAID HE KILLED A PUPPY!

and again incase you didnt READ IT i said MAYBE i misinterpreted that quote on Hitler, but from waht i remember, he was talking in a good manner about him

and another thing, i dont care what "type" of "Satanism" it is,
ripping up a Bible (i saw a fuckin pic of that so dont give me that "he never" bull shit)? its still evil and sends a bad message
now i know WHY he does what he does, and most of it i JUST DONT agree with, however, being an individual, being different, fine, tryin to lead people away from what they believe in, i dont agree with

and Izzy, NEVER FUCKIN SAID HE ABDUCTED A CHILD!
i read a quote he said he killed a puppy - -'
FYI, I dont believe hardly ANYTHING i read, i usually look further into it, because i know ALOT about particularly someone like Mason WILL be toatally twisted, but, when he said he did it..
(and i dont think, "i came from Detroit, i thought it would fly" will work this time  :P)

'The recent Internet postings accusing rock musician Marilyn Manson of killing puppies, chickens or any other animal in concert are false'

ok, so there, maybe your right, however, i did find a quote, maybe he's just jokin on people who made that shit up, but im not lyin i read somewhere HE said he did...

still..  i just dont like his music..

ripping up a Bible doesn't make some one evil.

it sends a bad message, and he knows it

I think he was going more for shocking people.

does anyone have the bonus track for Mechanical Animals??? if u do could u post it to download on usendit or whatever, please?

wasnt that the random weird sound one?

'
A Handy way for Lavey to get some  easy cash and publicity?
A perfectly normal interpretation of "common sense" for someone who is a selfish, self centered asshole?
Collection of flashy quotes and guidelines Lavey took credit for  even though majority of them came from random european literacy dating back to 19th century?


"You are your own god, and obey no rules.Now, here's a set of rules you need to obey to be a good satanist:"
:)

I hope I get to see him live! I've heard from friends that he's awsome!
And I really like his music.

Strange that prevailing attitudes have it that Mechanical albums was rejected by the fans and marked the beginning of the end for Manson...

....and yet every fan of his music i've ever encountered claims it as a superb effort

Personally i think its his best album too - the review above is abit OTT (its nothing like the Beatles in any way) but its still a damn fine listen and remarkably consistent

manson's music is cool

my personal favorite is the death song  : ok:

My favorite are Fundamentally Loathsome, This is the New Shit and (S)aint.

Mechanical Animals is my favorite Manson album aswell.
it's hell of a functional lil thing.
Lyrics are mostly brilliant, which is kinda obvious. Manson is an excellent writer.

What really makes this album stand out from ACSS or HolyWood(not to mention the more irrelevant Manson records) is the music/overall sound.
IMO the band has always been kinda plagued by very mediocre composing. Mot of the music before and after MA is just kinda uninnovative, unmemorable &pretty simple hardrock that is hidden somewhere in the backround, giving room for Manson's great voice and allowing it to be the main musical instrument of the records.

But noit during MA! No sssir. Atleast not as much as on other albums. I have always LOVED the twisted glampoprock vibe of MA. Somehow, music in general is just so much more innovative, experimental and creative than on any other MM album.Extrenmely well produced.

I really got into manson around the time MA came out.Like Izzy, I also recall that there were surprisingly large amount of bad press around it.
Many fans hated it, any many critics kinda laughed at it.Both accusing Manson of "selling out" and choosing a safe and "mainstream" way of doing things, instead of continuing to be "dangerous"
Which is utter bullshit.
MA was very daring and surprising direction to move, career-wise. Much more so than some dull "hay i'm still evil and satanic, witness my hatred of christianity, which i wrote 15 songs about" - excuse of ACSS II would have ever been.

Hail Mechanical Animals!!!!

A very cool live version of Speed Of Pain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtSE2fQdnE&search=speed%20of%20pain

yep. i could not agree more. it really shows what a versatile artist he really is.? i know his last couple albums havent sold well and people still love to hate him, but i will ALWAYS respect him for this gem. Mechanical Animals is def. my favorite Manson album and one of my favorite albums ever. actually it could very well be my favorite album ever. i can surprisingly somehow relate it to my own life (no i don't do drugs) in a weird way and i just adore the sound and the lyrics are heart-stopping especially in the ballads. i still listen to it ALOT. "The Speed of Pain" is absolutely amazing. i really hope he goes out with a bang with this next album after the surprisingly mediocre Golden Age of Grotesque.?

manson said this in an interview about the new record last year:?

This album comes from a lot of different places, but I?d call it a romantic record and not in like holding hands and walking in the moonlight, but romantic like the unfulfilled yearning to be in another time or another place where you feel like you would fit in better. That?s something that everybody can relate to. It also has a lot to do with a yearning to find another person to share that with. It?s the struggle that you have looking for that. It?s very unlike anything we?ve done. It?s also very dark in a sense. I think it will probably be talked about as being very guitar oriented and very melodic and almost rock n roll in the sense that it feels and sounds very much like a band forming. It also has some surreal elements that throw it into a weird place that doesn?t quite fit.

that gets me really excited, he is really taking his time but i hope we see this record by the end of the year.

i really love mechanical animals and all, but antichrist superstar is still def my favorite.  it was the album that got me listening to manson (thanks italiano) some of my favorite songs are on it, minute of decay, tourniquet, mister superstar, irresponsible hate anthem, just too name a few. 

Yeah Antichrist Superstar is cool, i just have trouble relating to it i guess, and its just so dark and sad and the music is just so brutal and abrasive. It reminds me alot of the Downward Spiral. I love it, i respect it, but i just cant connect with it like i do with The Fragile. Same with this, Antichrist Superstar is great but i can't connect with it like i do with Mechanical Animals...

although i must say, Man That You Fear is easily one of his best songs.

i'm really interested in this new album, but Manson seems to be focusing more on the movie hes acting and directing in "Phantasmagoria" or something, so it looks like its still gonna be a while till we see anything new.

i cant wait to see what he comes up with music and image wise... he always radically changes his image and sound with every album.....

lets face it, The Golden Age of Grotesque wasn't that great, i hope he returns to form and goes out with a bang.

i hear ya man, im a huge fan of the fragile as well! : ok:

i didnt know he was doing a movie, whats it about?  is he acting, directing or something?

this next album for manson i think has to be much stronger then golden age & holywood for him to be relevant in music again.  and i actually like holywood, most of it is pretty good> but a bit of filler and nonsense throughout. should have kept it to 11-12 tracks imo.

Yes Manson is directing and acting in "Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Caroll" It is about the writer of Alice In Wonderland....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasmagoria:_The_Visions_of_Lewis_Carroll

sounds interesting... could be good....

Manson wants to "redefine the horror genre". Sounds pretty cocky but lets face it horror movies havent been that great recently mayne he'll give the genre a good kick in the ass....

you're welcome JM.

you're welcome JM.

I haven't posted on here 4 a while lol. I originally said that Beautiful People was the best song but now my favourite is fight song lol.

 

                                                                             : ok: izzyrose :peace:
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whats he up to these days - he seems to have slipped into the sidelines....

making films, and a new album with tim skold.

...however its taking ages

Right now, he's busy geting divorced i think.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/01/05/marilyn-mansons-marriage-is-dead/

It has been almost 10 years since last time Manson put out something really wortwile.
Really hope he gets back on his track with the next record.
I can't think of anyone who'd need a new musical direction and another songwriting team as badly as Marilyn Manson. Another record full of unmemorable riffs and mind numbingly normal industrial hard rock with dull, very safe song structures  and his catalogue is officially too boring to have a functional career based around it with.

i think he hit peak with mechanical animals, though i do enjoy holywood, i found anti-christ to be boring tbh, a bad NIN album i thought it was.

the new album, meh, average, something youd listen to if there was nothing else you felt like having on. stuff in the early 90s is too simple for me.

for all the backlash against him his music is little more than pop undeneath it all

Its still a great listen - but its very tongue in check and user friendly - its not metal in any sense of the word

the way i see it is, Mechanical Animals polarized his sound and image. it was the complete polar opposite of Antichrist Superstar. so everything after Mechanical Animals will have elements of those two albums or sound in the middle and a rehashing since we've seen both sides of his sound/image. even lyrically Holy Wood seemed to be beating a dead horse and just slightly expanding and mostly rehashing old elements of AS and MA.  hopefully this new record will be fresh and inspired but its taking forever dont know if thats good or bad.

Already !!! They seemed to be so much into each other...

As regards as albums, I must say that the one which really got me hooked on MM was Mechanical Animals ...  a really great album, without any lame track.  It 's the only MM disc I can listen to without wanting to skip a song.  I agree as regards as the current lack of interest of the band... Golden Age is not my cup of tea and Lest We Forget was just a "bring me all your money " disc ; the worst thing is that the last time Warner and his band went on tour, the music didn't sound great  (though he had Chris Vrenna with him) and at times they were perceived as a cover band...
I really hope Mazza  will go back to a more conceptual  vision and that he'll release very solid material.

i cant believe they divorced. if i could pick one couple i would've picked them to last. Manson and Dita Von Teese really seemed perfect for each other. oh well.

User friendly? I don't think so. User friendly is a band like the Bee Gee's.

I believe Marilyn Manson is now dating the beautiful actress Evan Rachel Wood.

she is 19. that scares me. deeply. i read that somewhere too, not sure how true it is though.

Marilyn Manson have nearly completed work on their upcoming sixth studio album, set to come out this spring. The album is titled Eat Me, Drink Me. Wrongly reported as a new solo album by sources like Blabbermouth, the album was in fact recorded by the band who will also launch a world tour coinciding with its release.

In an October 2005 interview with mtv.com, Manson (the man) described the music that he was working on for the follow-up to 2003's The Golden Age of Grotesque as the "most guitar-driven" and "most original that I've heard created. This record has a very unpleasant attitude toward itself, and I expect it to be -- without sounding like someone who says this every time they make a record -- something above and beyond and different -- sonically, emotionally -- than anything I've done."

Since then, however, Manson and his wife, model and burlesque performer Dita Von Teese, have announced they are calling it quits. Von Teese cited irreconcilable differences in papers filed December 29th. The couple married November 28, 2005, and separated on Christmas Eve, according to court documents. Manson himself claims they've been separated since Halloween and vows no spousal support will be given. How they will affect the tone of the album remains to be seen.

Marilyn Manson has always been one of my favorite bands, along with GN'R and NIN, and now all three are releasing albums this spring. Then there's Velvet Revolver coming out in (hopefully) May or sooner. For anyone else who's a fan of these bands, 2007 is shaping up to be a phenomenal year.

cool :)

what a year 2007 will be, best year on rock for i dunno how long

all we need now is zach de la rocha :) and we're set !

his best was Mechanical Animals, i hope this is just as good and a return to form for him.

by the way we already have a Marilyn Manson thread, could someone merge this one with it?

i suppose the title refers to Alice In Wonderland ?

yes it does. i guess it will tie in with his movie a bit?

I agree about Mechanical Animals. That's always been my favorite, too. And I apologize about not noticing another Manson thread.  :beer:

What would the difference be? The lineup is always changing - surely the band 'Marilyn Manson' is a solo album anyway?

well
solo album = manson does all
band album = the band writes stuff

well thats a rather crude way of looking at it - no one could possibly write everything on an album (drums, bass etc) so by that definition no album would ever be a solo album

wasn't foo fighters first album only dave?

I think your right - but you know the point i'm making

Manson's best song is Coma White

Speed of Pain for me.

The other day I took a listen to Faith No More's album Angel Dust, as I'd heard it was good, and sure enough I liked It (although my favourite FNM album is King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime).

There's a track on Angel Dust called 'Be Aggressive', and as soon as I heard the chorus It sounded just like the Marilyn Manson track 'mOBSCENE' from the album The Golden Age of Grotesque.

you mean the girls chanting bit, i thought the same, maybe its just a coincidence that cheer leaders chant in the same tune, i dunno.

i thought this was just a classic cheerleader chant .... ?

Yes I believe he did.  I remember first hearing that song on the radio in my car and almost wrecked because I was so pissed.  It's too damn similar for it to be a coincidence.   I'm a Manson fan, but much more a FNM fan.

i remember now, forgot 'bout it.

yeah when i first heard it i was like, 'you ripped my fav band you arsehole'!!!

LONG LIVE FAITH NO MORE!!!

No.  Its a standard cheer. 

Marilyn who? 

The be aggressive chant has been changed a bit and used in an estonian rap song aswell. Probably in many other not so well known songs too, it's damn catchy  : ok: Oh and Faith No More rules  :beer:

Monroe?

maybe he likes FNM and wanted to do some kind of tribute or something, and i know that if i'm a fan of some band then hear theat they coover or sample another band i wanna check that other band out, so maybe MM got FNM more fans, lol u don't always have to be that negative peeps

Manson is finally coming out with a new album, called "Eat Me, Drink Me"

this is from Rolling Stone

" Rolling Stone's Austin Scaggs listened to EAT ME, DRINK ME and writes; "Things got really interesting on Saturday when the Smoking Section drove out to the Valley at the behest of Marilyn Manson. The S.S. joined Manson in his rec room where we worked our way down the belly of a bottle of German absinth and were blown away as Manson debuted his new album, EAT ME, DRINK ME. The key cut is "If I Was Your Vampire," a six-minute epic with the lyric "The Hole Is Where the Heart Is." If anyone thought Manson was down for the count, think again."

He's got some tour dates coming up in Europe too....I can't wait till he makes it back to Vegas

I'm looking forward to this. I wasn't crazy about the last one and think he (they) isn't the same without Twiggy, but I think that there will at least be a couple MM classics on it.

new article in Rolling STone:

Manson's Dark Return

The Antichrist Superstar exorcises some demons-including his divorce - on new album, by Austin Scaggs

Marilyn Manson sits in the front room of his home in the San Fernando Valley, drinking from a bottle of rose-tinted absinthe. The house feels dark and unwelcoming-his estranged wife, model Dita Von Teese, has recently moved out-and Manson apologizes for the disarray. Without the makeup that he usually wears in public, and dressed casually in black, Manson pours himself into a couch and explains the turmoil that's plagued him for much of the past year-ultimately led him to restart his musical career with a new album, Eat Me, Drink Me, due in June. The songs, he says, "are clearly written to seduce somebody," though he is hesitant to divulge whom. "I don't want people to think that the record is some kind of exploitation of my personal life," says Manson. "At the same time, it also represents exactly who I am and what I feel."

For the next few hours, Manson plays unmastered cuts from Eat Me, Drink Me and describes his year in hell. "Halfway through last year I was in such a black hole of depression," he says. "I couldn't make anything, I couldn't do anything. I lost hope." At the time, Manson's mother was diagnosed with a mental illness and, he says, "I got trapped in one of the classic rock & roll clich?s of having people that work for me rob me behind my back." He had no interest in making music, and the film project he was focused on -Phantasmagoria, based on the twisted life of Lewis Carroll- became a psychological burden.

Manson says he was finally uplifted by a close friend's morbid gesture of devotion. "She picked up a butcher's knife and said, 'Here, you can stab me,'" he says. "When someone was willing to drown with me, I really didn't want to drown anymore." This theme is depicted in the six-minute epic "If I Was Your Vampire," which Manson wrote on Christmas. "That song is the new 'Bela Lugosi's Dead,'" says Manson. "It's the all-time gothic anthem."

The album's lyrics were written after last Halloween. That night, Manson presided over the opening of his Los Angeles art gallery. The next morning he left his home in the Valley and set up temporary digs at a studio-equipped house in the Hollywood Hills. "Suddenly," he says, "I felt liberated. I'd write a song, walk two doors down the hall and record it right then." Manson's lyrics, which were recorded over tracks crafted by Tim Skold (who joined Manson's band in 2002 as bassist), came quickly. "I was writing out of desperation and hope," he says. "The record came out in a rush-like an open wound-and I went with it."

"Just A Car Crash Away" is a Bic-waving ballad, a death march punctuated by Skold's searing guitar solo. "The Red Carpet Grave" is classic Manson, echoing with buzz saws and primitive percussion. (In fact, on "You, Me And The Devil Makes 3" they beat on a metal skunk trap they found outside the house.) Manson wrote the album's first single, "Putting Holes In Happiness," oh his birthday, and describes it as "a romantic-misogynistic-cannibal-gothic-vampire ballad."

Manson hopes to release a film in conjunction with the disc that he claims, "is nothing short of the most horrifying horror that you could ever experience." He will also tour this summer, debuting his live versions of the new songs at European festivals. "I really wanted to be a singer on this album," he says. "This is very earnest and uncalculated and raw, in the sense that I know I'm fucked up, and I'm really not ashamed of it."

i'm hopeful, everyones allowed to make one bad album(GAOG was okay, but it was bad by his standards in my opinion), i think this new record will put manson back on track. sounds like it will be his most personal since Mechanical Animals, which i think is his masterpiece and crowning achievement. that record is incredible, one of my fave all time.

Anything related to new Manson music coming our way is good news, I just hope his band is more together than...not, which it had seemed to be the case for a while there. I like Skold, I've always liked Skold long before he joined Manson's ranks, I just don't want to see his influence overtake the music too much. That said, while I whole-heartedly agree with you on Mechanical Animals, I'm afraid I disagree on TGAOG, which I viewed as a step up from Holy Wood (which is itself underrated).
By the way, you seem to have good taste in music outside of GN'R, from what I've seen on the boards.

 :beer:

thanx man.  : ok: i thought GAOG just seemed so genereic and boring compared to his other stuff. i dig some songs but overall i just dont think he got his message across very well.

It has been reported on the French music site "Charts In France", that Marilyn Manson is currently filming a new video, "When The Heart Guides The Hand" with James Cameron as the director. The video is said to be using a 3D special effect, so people can view the video without the glasses.
The website have said this is the first single from Manson's new album "Eat Me, Drink Me" and they also mention a May 28th release.

Source: chartsinfrance

Dont you think Holywood was a pretty personal record after all the grief he took after Columbine? He must have been providing a voice for others as well with it, I know, a voice for some of the disillusioned, deeply unhappy and angry young people the world over I felt. At the time I really connected with it.I always thought it was his most personal album to be honest. Mechanical Animals was the album that got me into Manson, I loved it but I wouldnt consider it to be a personal album.
I agree the Golden Age was poor, there were a few good moments but there was some really lame moments. What was up with all the swearing? It was so cheap.
You know, I couldnt listen to his music for nearly 2 years after my best freind committed suicide, I was too depressed and Holywood especially was hard, too many reminders.

Heres hoping the new album is a belter.

That was such bullshit. Just a matter of some douche-bag politicians trying to score some "family value" points.

On another note, whatever happened to Zim Zum? I'd love to see an ACS/MA reunion, with Reznor producing.

yeah i loved Zim Zum too. the reasons surrounding his departure are very unclear. supposedly he showed up late for a rehearsal or was getting paid too much or something so manson booted him. his work on ACS and MA were awesome and i think he was dare i say better than john 5. he will be missed. (John 5 is awesome but i dont think he really suited manson very well, Zim Zum was a better fit IMO)

now on this new record Tim Skold is playing the guitar.

as far as Holy Wood, you're right that one is very personal as well, i guess its just a matter of opinion.

sounds like the album will be out June 5 in the U.S.

AND a co-headlining tour with Slayer? that would be sweet!


MARILYN MANSON: 'Heart Shaped Glasses' Single Due This Month - April 3, 2007
Universal Music France has announced that the first single from MARILYN MANSON's new album will be "Heart Shaped Glasses" (formerly "When the Heart Guides the Hand"). A 3D video for the track, which is expected to go for radio adds mid-April, was recently completed and is said to be an extract from a 3D horror movie which Manson will continue filming at the beginning of 2008 with James Cameron, the Oscar-winning director of "Titanic".

The official French release date for MANSON's new CD, "Eat Me, Drink Me", is June 4, which suggests that the album will arrive in North America on Tuesday, June 5. There will be two versions available, including a special collector's edition.

Manson was the focus of a private reception on Saturday night (March 31) at a Fort Myers, Florida art gallery. The reception kicked off an exhibition of Manson's latest paintings at the Space 39 gallery from April 2 to April 17.

MARILYN MANSON will embark on a summer co-headlining tour with SLAYER.

(Thanks: MansonUSA.com)

yup, i heard its vastly different from his other stuff, also more comparisons to Mechanical Animals lyrically, which is def. a good thing and gets me very very excited. maybe he will pull off going out with a bang after the lackluster Golden Age of Grotesque. i really wanna know who the guitarist is. i know Tim Skold did the guitar work in the studio so i dont know if he will just movie from bass to guitar or if they will get a new guitarist when they tour.

here's a 30 second clip of the new single, "Heart Shaped Glasses(When the heart guides the hand)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHQ6qwfopO8


i'm impressed, manson always finds a way to surprise you with every album, sounds different as usual. its only a 30 second slip but this sounds promising.

u cant realy judge the lyrics yet cuz their out of context......but they are quite strange, but im not surprised coming from manson lol.

it sounds cool.. 2007 will be e a great year

its perked my interest....Manson needs an earth shattering album to continue to be relevant, he's been out of the limelight for too long

im not digging the song ... we'll see

i'll go see him in june in paris tho, even if the last 2 concerts i saw from him were sh*t. hope.

i heard the whole single on a streaming french radio station. its great, very very pop oriented and bouncy/danceable, but awesome in its own right. a welcome change from the previous album.  i'm sure the single/music video will turn up soon later on in the month.

you can DL it here
http://www.manson-world.net/bonus.php

thanks dude :beer: i'm listening to it right now..

EDIT: i really like it :headbanger:

musically its awesome but i was expecting a bit more depth and inspiration lyrically.... i mean supposedly this album is about how rough the past year has been with him, cuz of the divorce with Dita etc.. i guess im just used to better lyrics from him. o well its still not bad, i'm sure the rest of the album will have better lyrics.

Hmmm...yuck. The clip didn't do it for me. Maybe hearing the entire song will be different.

you can download the whole song.. just look a couple of posts up : ok:

He sucks (literally, Robin's dick :nervous:)
Boring freak music. Poser.

thank u for that brilliant and insightful addition to this thread. could u be any more ignorant? boring freak music? i guess alot of people in American are freaks then, since at least two of his albums are multi platnum. oh, and that guy called Trent Reznor produced and played on one of his records,? i guess hes a freak too?

anyway, back on topic, after repeated listens i dig the song, the chorus still doesnt sound right to me but i'm happy its a drastic change from the last album and his music is reinvented once again. i feel that ever since Mechanical Animals he was stuck in rut musically, so this is definitely something fresh.

leave then :-*

I guess so. :-\

wow you are so ignorant. i usually don't get into fights with people on a fucking internet messageboard so i'm going to stop now. but wow. i am in awe.

if u dont like MM then get the fuck out of this thread, that simple. if you don't like him then fine i respect your opinion, but don't make up shit about him like that stupid rumor about robin, and have the balls to call him a poser, thats just stupid and ignorant.

Love the new song, listened to it 8 times last night.

who care that he may have suck robin off. Hell in this day and age that isn't that shocking.


not sure about the new song. i like it but dislike it at the same time.

I finally got the link to work  :D


I love the music, I love the vocals, but I don't think they get along somehow.  :-\

While I'll definitely check the new album out, I'm a little skeptical. Without Twiggy, it just isn't the same. His collaborations, as well as Zim Zum's (and later John 5's) guitar work made Manson a great band. And at least the lackluster GAOG had John 5, and now he's gone too.

I don't like the Tim Skrod(sp?) version of Manson, going by what we've heard so far. But who knows? Maybe Manson will be able to make a comeback with the new album.

tim skolds good....in shotgun messiah, i dunno if he gels with manson.

well in my opinion he didnt do a good job on Golden Age of Grotesque, theres barely any memorable basslines on that record.

but on this new album he plays guitar and bass, and the new single sounds great. so maybe he'll redeem himself with this new record.

Bass lines don't make an album great!!!

One of my favorites actually. Saw them in 97 and 99..both were awesome.
I like every album alot except Holywood.
Best album is Mechanical Animals (not a popular choice of most fans). Their last album was great despite Twiggy leaving. But I don't see anything amzing on the horizon from Manson. I think he's taken the band as far as it can go.

Here is how I'd rank 'em.

HW
MA
AS
GAOG
POAAF

okay u got me there, but they still help. every other Manson record has tons of awesome basslines. just in general tho, the songwriting sucked on GAOG, so i guess i blame Skold a little bit, and of course John 5, who is an awesome guitarist but i dont think he fit manson very well.


BLASPHEMY!!!! Mechanical Animals owns all. musically its pure ear candy, and lyrically i think its his most concise and focused effort. he really got his message across. Holy Wood is good, but in my opinion pales in comparison to MA.

Mine then, in order:

Mechanical Animals
The Golden Age of Grotesque
Portrait of an American Family
Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)
Antichrist Superstar

wow thats really interesting how u ranked the GAOG and Portrait so high and ACS so low. i like portrait, there are tons of clever and catchy songs on it, but i would def. rank ACS higher, "Man That You Fear" alone beats out everything on GAOG  in my opinion. why do u like GAOG so much?

GAOG is weak in my opinion.


i'd say, with 2 top songs to prove it

1- Mechanical Animals (i dont like the drugs, user friendly)
2- AntiChrist Superstar (reflecting god, 1996 ... too many)
3- Portrait of an American Family (Lunchbox, Wrapped In Plastic)

4- Holy Wood (King Kill 33 - the end beat is a killer)
5- Goden Age (doll dagga buzz buzz )

the new single is great!
one of the best song of the year

new song "if I was your vampire" (not the single) is up on his official myspace

http://www.myspace.com/marilynmanson

edit: myspace player finally loaded, its awesome!! "the hole is where the heart is", i love it.

^that was great, this album will rawk :yes: :smoking:


just found this.. "this is halloween" from the tonight show with jay leno from october 2006 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m-63R2eifs not the best song ever IMO :hihi:

that song on his Myspace is fucking great.

You know, I truely don't know why I ranked it so high. I was going to put that in my post, "I dunno why I'm putting this so high but I am." I realize it's a ... controversial album amongst fans, and I have my moods about it, too. I think it just reflects my mood at the moment, it felt right. I generally regard Portrait pretty highly. Nothing they've done has touched Mechanical Animals. I truely like all their albums very much, Antichrist never gelled with me too much though. Always felt like NIN-lite to me. Very intelligent album, but the mix is muddy especially next to Mechanical Animals, and I remember when it first came out how different a sound they came into and how many fans they picked up that I think I'd have rathered they didn't. But that's gonna happen with any band, no matter what. "Man That You Fear" is a beautiful song, agreed. But to answer your question, I've always had a soft spot for the album because I'm really in love with his lyrical patterns and word play and I think it really brought him to a different level musically, although I see how that wasn't a level a lot could really get behind. The subject matter concerning the album was also a conceptual step up from Holy Wood in my opinion. While Holy Wood is gorgeously written and produced, it's sometimes too much of a retread to the Antichrist days for me. Golden Age was something very different. It's still a shame John 5 was so underused, but his contributions, however reserved, will always be a standout to me. And I've always liked Tim Skold whereas I never much cared for Twiggy (on a personal level, he's a very competent player).
That all said, I've listened to "If I Was Your Vampire." I still hate the title and the song is nowhere near what it was initially hyped to be, but it's growing on me and is a step up from the single. I have high hopes for the album.

i like his new song, reminds me of old freaky spaced out manson!

well thats an interesting take on it, i understand where u are coming from.

these songs are good but when all the reviews kept comparing this new album to the personal tracks of Mechanical Animals, i guess i set my standards a little high. lyrically these two songs don't touch the emotional tracks from? MA like "Speed of pain", "last day on earth", "coma white", "fundementally loathsome" etc..

but theres still the rest of the album so we'll see. i just fear manson is maybe at his best when he has a concept to work with, like the concept records of AS, MA, and HW.

I just put on GAOG for the first time in years and it's way better than I remember. The title track kicks ass!

yeah thats a fun song, i also dig new shit, spade, and vodevil. the guitar solo in para noir also kicks ass. the rest of the album ranges from bad to medioccre in my opinion.

Unless u are FLEA of course. : ok:

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http://rapidshare.com/files/26717544/st_petersburg_1996.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/26725564/st_petersburg_1996.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/26733411/st_petersburg_1996.part3.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/26738366/st_petersburg_1996.part4.rar.html

Cool!

I know what Jarmo thinks about this matter, but it would be very cool to have a sub-section inside ''Appetite For Collection'' (or at least a sticky thread) where to put other bands downloads.

Thank you very much. How's the quality?

prolly a B+  :beer:

I'm sorry to argue such a trivial issue but I think you're vastly over-estimating Twiggy's contributions. He wasn't much of a bass player, let alone a musician. The guitarists of the band have always had much more influence on the sound and quality of Manson's albums. Twiggy's most impressive set of Manson credits came on Antichrist, which was clearly more Trent Reznor's shining hour than Twiggy's.




On topic; the song on myspace is pretty good. Sounds unfinished though. Is it a demo or what?

I thought it had a rough, demo sound to it, too. Anyway, I guess the video for Heart-Shaped Glasses just leaked not too long ago. Universal's been tearing it down. Anyone have it or seen it yet?

thx but what does this have to do with GNR? I'm a Manson fan but this is a GNR forum : ok: this one isn't even a proshot :(

the songs great though aint it, very 80s sounding, like gary numan or something.

yeah i dont get this thread, very random as its about Marilyn Manson

it was posted here for anybody who may want it. : ok:

but here is not the place

exactly this is a Guns N Roses forum ::)

i heard Twiggy had a significant influence on Mechanical Animals as well, he laid down some guitar tracks, of course played the bass throughout the record,? and wrote the music to The Dope Show.

i think Manson's two biggest mistakes were letting Zim Zum go, and of course Twiggy's departure. 

the new songs are so fuckin great..
this will be the best MM album since Mechanical Animals

im hoping so too,i like how he has returned to the strangeness.

Fuck Marilyn Manson.   :hihi:   :peace:

all the lyrics have leaked. i haven't looked at them tho, i mean whats the point without the music, i don't want to spoil it!!

You can hear online the new song ''If I Was Your Vampire'' here:

http://www.goear.com/listen.php?v=67ab56c

i wanna see the Heart Shaped Glasses video, i can't believe James Cameron directed it thats so random.

indeed - u mean he's actually been doing something with himself for the last 10 years other than making things about Titanic?

its a shame cause he made some great films back in the day.

i love how manson always gets his girlfriends to help promote his music, check this out

(http://janetcharltonshollywood.com/upload/2007/04/MansoncutXPO_301x450.jpg)


Evan Rachel Wood wearing heart shaped glasses, how romantic.

I wonder what Axl would say if he met Manson and vice versa, after what Manson wrote in his book.

i actually own the book but i still havent read it yet. did manson say something about axl?

Manson claims that he met Axl in the early 90s backstage at a U2 show. Apparently Axl started telling Manson about all his "psychological problems" and Manson thought that he was a flake. Then Manson told Axl about "look at your game girl," which Axl had not heard of at that point. Personally I think Manson is full of shit.

Just hear If I was you Vampire. I fucking like it! I hope the rest of the shit on this album measures up. Right on Marilyn! With the NIN album being so great... anyway cant wait to hear it.

manson did use quite alot of drugs, he might have just ....imagined it XD magic mushrooms etc.

if my memory serves me right,  in mansons book when he met axl marylin said HE was going to cover a charles manson song,  and then a short while after  Look at your game girl was out on TSI,  i dont remember manson saying he was gonna do THAT song, charles manson had a bunch of crappy tunes laying around.

for anyone interested:

Marilyn Manson
Download Festival
Castle Donington Park - Donington, England
May 31st, 2003
Soundboard Recording

MP3 128kbps
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DOWNLOAD (http://rapidshare.com/files/27870076/MMDF03.rar)

thanks man :beer:

A few weeks ago, Marilyn Manson attended a press conference in France where he answered questions related to his new album, "Eat Me, Drink Me". During the press conference, Manson talks about the inspiration he had in making the new CD, his movie "Phantasmagoria" and the upcoming tour.

video footage of interview:http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=2423607324799893058&hl=fr

Q: Why did you choose this specific title for your new album, and what was it about Lewis Carroll's work that inspired you so much?

Marilyn Manson: It's only in part inspired by "Alice In Wonderland". I thought that the concept of being consumed by someone else, it goes back to the Christ myth and it's why this is a man who became a symbol and the symbol is in the religion and consumed by the people that believe in the religion. And this record was me been my own symbol of Marilyn Manson becoming human for the first time in making this record and for me saying that I want someone to consume me, I think that it's the greatest gesture of sacrifice and admission of romance, so it's very much a romantic seduction and in a literal way if I had to pick a way to die then I would want to be eaten alive by somebody that I was in love with. If I had to pick a way then that would be the way.

Q: Can you tell us a bit more about "Phantasmagoria"?

Marilyn Manson: "Phantasmagoria" is postponed briefly until October, because it was supposed to take place when making the record and last year I think that I became so obsessed with the character that I was writing about Lewis Carroll/Charles Dodgson that I was writing about myself in a sense. So it's good that I have a bit of a distance so I can have a better perspective. If this record didn't exist then I probably wouldn't exist because I was in a state where I didn't want to make anything anymore and I really lost any sort of hope in general and I've never been in that position before and I don't ever want to be again. So on this record you can hear me been reborn, you can hear a romance dying, you can hear romance been born. This record is not anymore personal but if you listen to it you can hear what its like to know me personally probably more than on any other record. I wrote very immediately, the first song on the record says "Christmas morning, 6am" and that's when I wrote it and I sang it that same day, and that's kind of the way the record works. For me singing has only been finished very recently, so I havent really had that much time or distance to look at it objectivity.

Q: How do you explain the musical change on this album?

Marilyn Manson: The music occupied a lot of my time last year and the start of this year, because of the position that I was in and how I wanted to change who I was. I was making music solely for myself. If I went to bed then had an idea I would awake and just record it there and then. It was funny in the sense that when I got married I felt as though it would enable me to enjoy life more and make music but I needed to lose that to be able to really reveal my feelings and write personally on this album, particularly about love. The albums that I listened to most while recording was "Diamond Dogs" (DAVID BOWIE), "OK Computer" (RADIOHEAD) and "Purple Rain" (PRINCE). I tried to write an album that felt like something I had never made before. This one has more melody; it has guitar solos and less screaming. It's a good combination. I sing when I want to as well, I sing when I want to sing and as a result of that I probably sing more on this record than I have in the past.

Q: Given all the complex guitar solos on the new album, who's going to be your guitar player on tour?

Marilyn Manson: Tim Skold, who produced the record with me, played all the guitar and bass as well, and he's going to play guitar on this tour, and we have a new bass player who's name is Rob Holliday who's a former member of THE PRODIGY, which is good.

Q: If you could define your album in three words, what would they be?

Marilyn Manson: Four ? "Eat, Me, Drink, Me" [laughs]. No, I think it's the books and movies I was engrossed in when making it were "Bonnie And Clyde", "Lolita", "The Hunger", so there's a very fatal romantic look at the way that love can be that it's all or nothing so as I ended one relationship with Dita, I started another and I started to look at romance in a way that it had to be all or nothing. Somebody has to be willing to step in front of a car for you.

Q: Are these songs that could not have sat easily on other albums because of their underlying concept?

Marilyn Manson: Before I wrote mainly about people around me but this album is more introspective but it is also when I have felt that I have had the most freedom. It feels as though it is written to allure and seduce somebody. It felt like a live performance and sometimes it felt as though I was the only person in the world when I recorded something. On the first song I sang while lying on the floor. It was comfortable enough anyway.

Q: Your musical identity seems to have changed. What about your visual identity?

Marilyn Manson: Are you talking about the size of my penis? [laughs] I had to make you guys lighten up a little. I think that this tour will probably be more theatrical than the last one. In a different way I wanted to be focused on been a performer and a singer. I knew the minute that I wrote the song "If I Was Your Vampire" I wanted it to be the first song of my show and the first song on my album so I think I'm just glad to be back to being comfortable been Marilyn Manson whoever that may be but right now it's who I am so I don't really know how to answer that question. If you're trying to tell me that you think I'm handsome then I'll agree with you.

Q: How do you think your fans will react to this change in your music?

Marilyn Manson: I think it's difficult to determine precisely who and what a fan is. I don't want to cater to the people who never listened to me, who haven't heard me or who don't really know who I am. My attention is for the people who are convinced by the sincerity of my actions and words and who feel as though they can relate to what I say and they can be new fans as well as long as they are in that mindset. Without them, the fans, this album wouldn't exist and I wouldn't either. It's as simple as that.

Q: What role did your drummer Ginger Fish play on this album?

Marilyn Manson: Ginger is still in the band but this album is an exclusive collaboration between me and Tim Skold. Even if it were important for me to regard us a group then it would not be the case of the live band going into the studio to record the album because of how quick the songs were coming out of me. The simplest part for me was to sing, I had to write the words, but as soon as I had finished the first song it all came spilling out very quickly and I didn't expect it to.

Q: What can you tell us about the forthcoming single "Heart-Shaped Glasses"?

Marilyn Manson: The song was written because I had been reading the book "Lolita" and it was very close with Evan Rachel Wood, who's now my girlfriend, and she came to visit me one day wearing these glasses like Stanley Kubrick in "Lolita" and part of it because of her sense of humor and knowing that people would make their comments about our relationship because she's younger than me and when I saw her wearing those glasses I had to write a song about it and that's the way I wrote most of the record. The video that I just filmed I directed it and I used this 3D technology that James Cameron invented or was part of developing and I don't exactly know what will become of it but I made a short film but it was very controversial as the content was considered pornographic by the people involved so I don't know what will happen with it. Also people keep asking me if she was paid to be in the video and I'm not going to say as to whether she was paid $1,000,000 to do it or that she wasn't paid at all and that she asked to be in it as I wanted to add and actress as a sexual being in the video and someone who I'd want to fornicate with.

Q: You once said that "Antichrist Superstar" was and always will be a work in progress, do you feel as though with this new album the Antichrist has grown up, lived in the world of men and that this once Antichrist has become human and felt the most powerful feeling anyone can feel: love?

Marilyn Manson: Somebody said to me yesterday that the whole world has tried to destroy me and the only thing that I've ever showed weakness over is women and I think that is a part of the whole vampire myth that you kill a vampire by stabbing him in the heart so maybe that's the same thing. It's funny that this record ends up feeling mature because I'm at a part of my life where I'm expected to be more mature and more responsible, more grown-up, more adult, getting married and things like that but it didn't work for me so I'm actually been the most immature I've ever been?If you try and know too much without living it and experiencing it so?I think that question asked as to whether that was a part of it and this is definitely a part of it in some strange way.

Q: What can we look forward to on the forthcoming tour?

Marilyn Manson: Tim Skold will be playing guitar, Rob Holliday on bass. Obviously the remainder of the group but perhaps some surprises as well. This will be a more theatrical show in the manner of the tour for "Mechanical Animals". In the USA I'll probably be playing with SLAYER which is rather unexpected. It will be the tour from hell where I intended to introduce the concept of the "black love song."

(Thanks: MansonUSA.com)

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=71137

sounds cool hes announced his tour line up finally...

cheapjon....posting information...thats malcolms job ;)

"Heart-Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand)" video clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNmIoWKVpjY

This albums gonna rock, cant wait for it

This album is in my "compulsory things to be bought in 2007" list.

two more clips from the video are now on his official site. its more of the same, hes making out with Evan Rachel Wood...with both of them covered in blood. looks like hes wearing his wedding ring in one of the clips too!!

i really dont know what to make of it, i hope the video has more substance to it and isnt just the two of them making out the whole time LOL.

Ladies and Gentleman,

the album has leaked. havent gotten a hold of it yet, but i'm working on it. i hear its very atmospheric and guitar oriented with tons of solos etc.  :drool:

im on track 5, so far EVERY track has been fucking amazing!!! i hope the rest is this good, if so, its a return to form, defo.

omg "love is just a car crash away" was one of the best manson songs ive ever heard!!! the solo works so well in it too, so much emotion.

brilliant album, trent got pissed on from a great height!

o man ur getting me excited!! unfortunately i have two finals today and tons of studying to do, but i will try to listen to it tonite.

guys.. some1 Point Me me in a direction ;)

his fans suck. they are all saying hes gone emo and following trends, like WTF!

eh, the true fans will appreciate it.

i just had to give in, i listened to a couple songs and i like it alot. Tim Skold has really impressed me, he has already blown John 5 out of the water in my opinion. John 5 is a kickass guitarist but he was not a good fit for Manson.

its way different than anything hes done musically and lyrically, and i respect that. at least hes trying something new.

did you listen to "just a car crash away" its just immense.

yeah thats my favorite so far. the only thing that has bothered me is that manson's voice in places sounds strained and weird, and his vocals are waaaay overprocessed. but overall i like the record so far.

i'm just listening to the opening track right now.. i've heard it on myspace.. can't wait to hear the rest.. i'm gonna listen song for song :drool:

i think its cause he chose to sing more than shout/scream

where can i find them?

EDIT: I find this record better then Year Zero.. but i like manson better then reznor

you can find the lyrics if u scroll down here:

http://www.echoingthesound.org/phpbbx/viewtopic.php?t=12567&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=780

i've listened to it more, i'm really digging Evidence. great track. i think this is my favorite track now, awesome drum beat, sinister lyrics, blazing solo. incredible, i think this one track alone beats almost everything off Golden Age of Grotesque.

i haven't got any favourites yet.. it's great

I can?t turn my back on you
When you are walking away

kick ass

The only songs i'm not too fond of are "Are You The Rabbit" and "Mutilation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery", the rest is killer.

the title track is fucking awesome and ends the album really well

She has been forecast with an
Attempt to kill herself
But the ending didn?t test well

i love it!

Holy SHIT that album's brilliant.

it's maybe because they are the 2 songs i've heard the most times or it's because i think they are better.. dunno.. but i've been singing on 2 songs all day and they were "if i was your vampire" and "heartshaped glasses" also a little on "the red carpet grave"

I think the 6 first tracks are the best.. i think :hihi:

None of you could wait for the album to hit stores? You all needed to hear it that badly?

Like it makes a difference. I haven't not bought a Manson album opening day since ... I don't remember. That's what I do. Anyway, I wasn't too happy with the single or with "If I Was Your Vampire." Having the album not only put those in context, it reassured me about Manson as a band and about the album in general. So I would say I'm definately more likely to buy it after hearing the leaks, which is usually the case.

we were gonna buy it anyway.

about the Cd:
overall it's a ok-good album, after a couple listening.

Negative
lacks heavy songs. very heavy.
his voice gets boring.
lacks a very poppy dancing song.

Positive
holes in happiness is fine, solo is good
Red Carpet has a catchy chorus.
Cool to hear some solos.

This is so pretentious.
I hear Manson literally wrote the lyrics in few day period. Not to mention the vocals, they sound so rushed.
Seems like he has completely lost it. If he even ever had it.

its solid. it does feel rushed in places but overall its good. def. a million times better than the Golden Age of Grotesque.

if you haven't downloaded the leak and don't wanna have the lyrics spoiled don't read this post

after 2 days (at least i think it's 2 days) i like.. i've listend to ir quite a bit.. what i miss is some faster, poppier, harder, kick some ass aggressive songs.. not enough screaming either but still a solid record and best yet of 07 IMO..

just some of the lines i like..

If you want to lie with me
You?re going to be a liar ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - you me and the devil makes 3


Love is a fire
Burns down all that it sees
Burns down everything
Everything you think
Will burn
Everything you say ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- just a car crash away

Paradise isn?t lost
It was hiding all along

I can?t turn my back on you
When you are walking away? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- the red carpet grave

I love You so much, You must kill me now

Beyond the pale
Everything?s black
No turning back? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - if i was your vampire

i also think"Mutilation is the Most Sincere Form of Flattery" have cool lyrics IMO.

weakest songs IMO are "are you the rabbit?" and "eat me, drink me"

I'm blown away by Just A Car Crash Away  8)

Songs I've heard so far:

Heart Shaped Glasses
Is an okay song, but left me a bit dissappointed after all the hype. Does blend in well with the other songs however, because it's not too depressing :)

If I Was Your Vampire
Good gothic ballad. A bit over the top, but I still like it a lot.

But then something happened, and I heard the next two songs which make me forget about the ones above  :yes:

Just A Car Crash Away
Holy shit! This is my favourite new song by far. We get a bluesy Manson and a killer guitar solo. I'm really in love with this song.

Putting Holes In Happiness
Really catchy rock song which takes you on a journey. Like the guitar work. The solos are awesome.

These last 2 songs are the reason I'm going to buy the album! :peace:

Favorite songs for me are "Putting Holes in Happiness," "They Say That Hell's Not Hot," & "Just a Car Crash Away."

Can somebody PM me the songs, thank you in advance.  8)

So it's totally cool to request leaks from other artists, but not GNR?  ??? :hihi:

 :hihi:

seems that way.

Or you can just request GN'R leaks in the Manson thread, it seems to exist in its only little nexus. Up to you ....

Thanks again for the PM, much appreciated.  ;D

http://de.sevenload.com/videos/636FW3s/Weltpremiere-Marilyn-Manson-Heart-Shaped-Glasse

Heart-Shaped Glasses video. Not really safe for work.

i dont like it at all. o well, the album rocks.

the video is shit, especially compared to his brilliant past videos like Man That You Fear and Coma White.

It's ... different. It grows on me. I'm not fond of the absence of the band members aside from some silhouettes and shadows. I can make out Skold, but where's Pogo? Anyway, "Coma White" is definately one of my favorite Manson videos as well. I was just watching it earlier tonight.

sorry i was in a bad mood tonite and felt like dissing something, plus i was just really dissapointed in the music video, its not "shit", its just not up to his standards.? i think he could have done a much better job thats all.

oh and about what u said about pogo, he wasnt involved at all with the album making process so maybe they didn't bother including him in the video...

and yeah coma white was fucking amazing..... actually,  everything about Mechanical Animals was fucking amazing.

what i liked about the Man That You Fear music video was how it loosely based on that short story "the lottery" about a backwards town that had this stupid tradition of stoning someone to death every year. i liked how it kind of represented how he was being treated at the time by the christian right and how sooo many people blindly followed along in bashing and criticizing him because it was the "cool" thing to do and simply because they didnt take the time to understand him. just like the people in the town didnt take the time to think "wait a minute, this is wrong!!"

at least thats my take on the video, and i think that was at least part of what he was getting at...*shrugs*

this video was useless.
especially that extended version with 1.30 mins of love making.

GnFnR87. it IS sh*t.

the album is good, its got solos galore believe it or not. I like 9 of the songs a lot. The other two (including the single) are lame. The album sleeve sucks and I don't like the art work.

Hey, being in a bad mood is alright. My girlfriend of 2 1/2yrs and I pretty much sealed the end of our relationship today, I'm incredibly sick, and I had to go and direct a theatre piece from a script I'd written and had already committed to (but I had to drop out of the awards ceremony afterwards and the after-party). I think seeing the new Manson video actually brightened the day, although I agree it's not up to his standards. Very well filmed though. Still not into this whole Evan Rache Wood thing, and I think the video goes the "let's hurt Dita" route way too far too often. I liked Dita. A lot. Before Manson, too. I agree about Man That You Fear, that's always how I interpreted it. Sad video, and song really. I'm not as into Antichrist as a lot of fans though, kinda skipped that one over. Loved Portrait, then Mechanical Animals sort of defined the band. When Antichrist came out of course I like the album but ... not my favorite, at all. Man That You Fear is a highlight, however.
Sad to hear about Pogo. I had assumed he was involved, but this shocks me. He was the last one left.

i dig the "pop" songs of the CD ( red carpet grave and putting holes).
rest is boring.
Manson is, i'm sorry, no good when he tries to be serious. He is good when he makes people dance.

On the video, i really would love to hear what's so good about it?
it is non-existent.

it's all black to me? ???

You guys who I guess caught the video too late at that link, try this out:
http://marilynmanson.com/media/vid.html

EDIT: You might have to give that one a minute to load up past black. It must be getting a lot of traffic.

manson looks all emo in that video-  >:(


who thinks they're really screwing at the begining too?  it would'nt surprise me if they were- shes a little slut.

Does anyone know where I can find a audio file of the new song?

u mean the single Heart Shaped Glasses? i can send it to u if u want...

yeah disgusting video..

You know, with the exception of Anti-christ Superstar and Mechanical Animals, I haven't listened to any new Manson in years, but I'm diggin' the new album.  It just has a cool feel to it. 

This new album is good. I truthfully can't say there is a track I don't like on it .

yeah its pretty solid. i also think the tite track is one of the best songs he's ever recorded.

Hey, is anyone going to see Manson at the DCU Center in Worcester this August? I'd head down to see it, but I really really wish they weren't touring with Slayer. Now I like Slayer mind you, but I don't feel like getting my fuckin ribs broken by a bunch of burly, sweaty 80s metalhead throwbacks who're going less for Slayer and more to put the pain on dem faggy Merlin Manson fans. So if anyone here is going, let's meet up there we'll take the fuckin bar. I hope Manson plays before Slayer (they're not, but... you know). I've gone to a fair share of mixed concerts, hardcore and black metal shows you know. It's not the music, it's the fans. It's Slayer fans. That's all. I've seen a lot heavier than Slayer, which isn't hard to do, but most of those bands don't have fans who shoot kids with pellet guns from the back of a pickup, you know what I mean? Anyway, would be cool if anyone else here was going. :hihi: :peace:

I like the new album more and more each day!

Putting holes in happiness & Evidence are amazing!

I hear ya dude:

Manson w/GNR  : ok:
Manson w/NIN  : ok:
Manson w/Metallica  : ok:
Manson w/Motley Crue  : ok:
Manson w/Slayer  :no:

I haven't listened to the new CD yet, but I am pretty excited. Can't wait to get it on Tuesday.

I too am looking forward to picking this album up tomorrow.

love the new design cd case.....

Have to say this album is the most average album ive ever heard

It makes unremarkable look remarkable

The songs have no spark at all.....

totally disagree, i think its a great album.

This coming from a man who is all but jerking his schlong, over a movie about robotic cars. :hihi:

Dave Navarro's review, straight from 6767.com:

"I never do record reviews but I figured, at least you know what I like and what my influences are. Based on that, you can decide if you want to even consider my opinion... I always thought that readers should know where a reviewer is coming from before giving any review validity. I was just checking out the new Manson: Eat Me, Drink Me and at first, I was trippin... I was like... Huh? Being such a huge Antichrist fan, I guess I wanted more of that, but then again we have that record already, thank God. After getting into it deeper, I decided I love it. The album is a lot more stripped back production wise than the last few and way more "song" oriented. I would even venture to say that there are some serious New Wave elements to the new collection of songs, especially in the guitar department. Lyrically the songs are dark as to be expected but they are sometimes within musical structures that are by far the least ominous of all the previous Manson sonics. Vocally, he is on point... It's always good to hear that guy sing no matter what it's over, provided you are already a fan as I am. Melody wise, it's pretty much business as usual, but Manson's strong suit hasn't always been melody, it's been attitude, lyrical content and delivery... I think he still delivers here. Eat Me, Drink Me is a major musical departure from the usual Manson trip, in terms of the band and production, but it is a definite must have for the die hard fan. The album seems to maintain a moderate tempo throughout which can at times, grow tiresome to some, but at the same time, it makes for good in your face driving music or good background music. The same statement can be made about my last work with The Panic Channel, so in no way is that a dig. I will be purchasing this album for sure"

Too bad Navaro hasn't made a good album since 1990...

I enjoyed Navarro's solo album, but his contributions to Mechanical Animals leave him well qualified above the rest. Blabbermouth had the nerve to give the album a 5/10, with the same sarcastic bullshit almost every review (save Navarro's) is filled with. Rolling Stone gave it a 3/5 even though they've been swinging from Manson's balls for the past few months promoting it. They basically bash the shit out of his personal life for the first 90%, then praise the album for the last 10%. I give it a 5/5, 10/10, it's one of Manson's best. Hasn't left my iPod since it leaked and I'll be there to pick up my copy first chance I get tomorrow.

That's a matter of opinion, and this isn't the thread for that opinion.

Beyond the obvious above...

It's very interesting to get another artists viewpoint, I'm not sure if any other rock star going gets the respect of his peers as much as Manson does.

Manson is flat outout brilliant, the whole package.

I don't see what makes another "artist" opinion of a CD more valid than anyone else.

But hey, that's my opinion...

I would disagree with you that Manson is brilliant, however.

Reznor, Bowie, Lennon. Brilliant..

Manson? Not so much.

He's a great frontman, great personality, etc., but when when it comes to making great music, Reznor, Twiggy, Zim-Zum, John 5, Corgan (a ghostwriter on MA) have carried Manson his whole career.

That said, I'll be picking the new CD up today. Looking forward to what he has in store.

According to MansonUSA.com, Austin Scaggs of Rolling Stone magazine recently conducted an interview with Marilyn Manson. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow:

Rolling Stone: What did Evan's [Rachel Wood, Manson's 19-year-old girlfriend] parents think of the ["Heart-Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand)"] video [featuring several soft-core sex scenes starring Manson and Evan]?

Manson: Well, I had to have a drink with Evan's mother and father. The main thing that needs to be established is that I might share my life with her, but that does not incriminate her in my behavior. So if I want to go dig a hole and bury my genitals in it, that doesn't mean she dug the hole. Basically, I'm not as bad in the way they'd like to think I am. But I'm bad in a different way. I'm always going to be bad. More bad than Michael Jackson, but that's probably not a good comparison, considering.

Rolling Stone: They'd obviously be concerned with what she's up to around you.

Manson: Absolutely. I'm not surprised by that. But I found a strange ironic similarity with what her father said to me and what my dad said to Evan, which was, "If you break his heart, I'll kill you," or something along those lines.

Rolling Stone: You always have a unique woman with you, whether it's Rose McGowan or Dita Von Teese or Evan. What separates Evan, in a professional sense?

Manson: Evan was a real catalyst to help me realize that I wasn't delivering the message that I always stood for. And if you were to speak about her talent and personality, she's the most unique, stand-alone person who doesn't need a relationship with me to further her career. If anything, I could only take away from it.

Rolling Stone: You've shocked plenty of people. Growing up, what shocked you?

Manson: The shootings at Kent State ? because I grew up in Ohio and could probably ended up going to Kent State. I grew up very afraid of war, and for the oddest reasons. I wasn't afraid of dying as much as I was really afraid of getting my hair cut. It might sound funny, but it's really true.

Rolling Stone: You received death threats after the Columbine massacre. What was the scariest moment?

Manson: I had just been interviewed by Michael Moore [for "Bowling for Columbine"]. I was going to perform at Mile High Stadium in Denver, where if someone wants to kill you, you're dead, that's all there is to it. I was being followed around by about twenty plainclothes police officers. Everyone, my family and loved ones, so to speak, begged me not to do it, but they knew I had to.

Rolling Stone: Your European tour will hit a former monastery in Slovenia. Who booked that?

Manson: Everyone who's with me now are people that have actually stood by me after a really hard period in my life, and my manager, and the people who arrange the tours, are tying to accommodate my happiness. So when a show like that comes up, it's pretty irresistible. The question shouldn't be: "Why is Marilyn Manson playing a monastery in Slovenia?" It should be: "How are we going to get naked girls and chimpanzees in there?" That said, I'm not into interspecies erotica.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=73792

It doesn't, I just found it interesting


I think his brilliance lies beyond the above, he's a multi faceted artist whose talents aren't limited to music only.

And I echo your sentiments, I'm looking very forward to what he has in store as well. :beer:

Ok, I picked it up this morning and gave it a spin. I think it's really good. As others have said it's more stripped down, more meat-and-potatoes. I think also it's his most personal album--more of Brain Warner's album than that of the Manson persona. Maybe not quite as good as AS/MA/HW, but still a solid CD.

weakest cd with hollywood.

at least golden age had a "theme/ambiance" ....

HolyWood is his best album, IMHO.

Im only four songs in, and I really like it so far.

First song really doesn't do much for me though :-\

Really loving this album.

The last 3 songs are kinda' weak, but as a whole, the album is damn good.

"Putting Holes in Happiness" is my favorite song so far.

Wicked guitar solo : ok:

MARILYN MANSON recently performed his latest single, "Heart-Shaped Glasses", on the U.K. TV show "Popworld". Watch the performance online at YouTube.

The video for "Heart Shaped Glasses" features several softcore sex scenes between Manson and his teen actress girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood. The song comes off the shock-rocker's sixth studio album, "Eat Me, Drink Me", which came out yesterday (June 5).

Manson will begin a co-headlining tour with SLAYER on July 25 in West Palm Beach, Florida.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMO_qq_oup0

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=74040

any word on who is taking the stage first, Manson or Slayer?

i'm hoping slayer closes the show as they are a very difficult act to follow.

I know this isn't exactly 1998, but there's no way in hell Manson would ever "open" for Slayer. I'm sorry Slayer fans. It's only half to do with popularity, and the other half is prolly Manson's own ego (no dis to Manson, I wouldn't open for Slayer in his position either).

you're probably right. manson is commercialized and more of a "pop" artist.

i just hope things don't get ugly at these shows. there are segments of each fan base that hates the other.

 

I absolutely love the new album.

Eventhough the first half is alot stronger than the second half, its a great record.

Agreed. I wish they'd thought of their fanbases outside of maybe their personal likes or friendships within the bands. Touring with a band you like or that you're buddies with is fine, but when your fanbases are at that much odds with each other, I really believe this was the worst move either band could have made as far as a tour this summer. Still, I have my tickets now and I'm gearing up for what I really hope won't turn out to be a brutal show. I don't know about other people because I'm sure there's some who would do it anywhere, but Manson's music isn't really something to "mosh" to and I think Slayer fans are gonna turn the floor/pit into something altogether out of hand.

More Manson kudos from Billy Morrison (Camp Freddy, Circus Diablo, The Cult)

"What do I think of Manson as an artist?...... one of the most prolific, important and misunderstood of our time".

http://www.billymorrison.net/weblog

As an aside, Billy Morrison/The Cult is badass : ok:

I listened to Antichrist Superstar, Mechanical Animals and HolyWood for the first time in a while and am impressed to see that these three albums have all aged well, still sounding fresh, edgy and vibrant.

AS-It's sort of like The Downward Spiral II, in some respects. Kinda picks up where that album left off, much more so than the Fragile. I think the Reznor/Twiggy/Manson combo worked really well. Apparently the band was heavily into drugs and sleep deprivation when they recorded it and it certainly sounds it. Funny thing is, even thought the CD is eleven years old, it doesn't sound at all dated. It's just as bizarre and ballsy now as it was in 1996. Listen to Motley's Shout at the Devil, by comparison, even by 1990 that sounded really dated and cheesy.

MA-Loved the direction the band took with this album. Just as heavy as AS, but more "dark-light," if you know what I mean. Love the crisp production and Bowie-esque feel.

HW-The band's most underrated CD, IMHO. I actually like this version of the band the best--with Twiggy and John 5. This is sort of a mix of the last two CDs--gothic and heavy as fuck, but with the crisp sound of MA. I think this CD may actually have the best written songs of any Manson CDs, and the climax in the title track is Manson at his finest.

I think these three CDs are all great, but I think A.S. might be, overall, the best of the three, for Reznor's excellent production and cultural impact.

minus the opening intro i really do not think shout at the devil sounds dated.

A.S. sounds like it could have been released yesterday.

SATD has "1983" written all over it. It's not even that groundbreaking either. It's just a mix of Aerosmith and KISS.

no i do think it was ground breaking. the metal style they formed hadnt really been done as good before. i think some of priests more commercial stuff touched on those riff styled but motley crue got those melodic glam metal riffs good, but i think RATT did the melody better, crue did the aggression better.

got tix for the slayer/MM show at the tweeter in jersey - lucked out and got pit tix. looking forward to seeing MM perform live.

I'm with you 100% on all the above Richard, well said.

Combine this with his writing, art etc and general social impact and you've pretty got exactly what Billy Morrison eleuded to: "one of the most prolific, important and misunderstood of our time".

Richard, where does Eat Me, Drink Me fit into your Marilyn Manson report card?

Hmm,

AS
HW
MA
EMDM
TGAOG
POAAF

POAAF is the only Manson album that I don't dig all that much, it's just kind of goofy, like a Rob Zombie album.

Eat Me, Drink Me debuted at #9.

Not bad for a leaked album

Just want to add, that I am digging the shit out of EMDM. My favorite MM album after MA. Yea you heard that right. I used to dig the fuck out of AS. Got me through a lot of shit back then and I respect it. But today, I am not in the frame of mind for it. I am just not that angry anymore. I dont need it. I love HW a lot to but MA has remained the most listenable MM album for me, and this new motherfucker sounds great! I am very pleasantly surprised at how much I dig it.

yeah i agree, i'm not too fond of "if i was your vampire" but the first half overall is excellant. the last half sags a bit but tracks like "evidence" and the title track save it. i ADORE the title track, fucking awesome, everything about it, easily my favorite from the record.

i also totally agree about that comment of Manson being the most misunderstood artist of our time. its a shame really.

my favorite album without a doubt is Mechanical Animals, such a ballsy move image and sound wise, and the songs are excellant. i love his commentary on the dehumanization of our society and the whole story of Alpha and Omega and his band mechanical animals. brilliant stuff.

I think some of the strongest songs are on the second half of EMDM. I really like "you and me and the devil make 3." The weird voice thing that keeps getting lower and lower is really cool.

Fuck this first half vs last half nonsense. Its all good. This is some inspired work. I love how stripped down this is. Manson is just rocking here. Drums and guitars are sweet and very welcome surprise. Really fucking great work overall. Its clearly some of the best work he has done and that, to me, is saying a lot. Yea this rocks. The more I hear the more I like. Sure as shit makes the wait for Chinese D a little more bearable.

Anyone have the Spooky Kids CD? It's some demos from around 93 and it was released in 04. It's pretty cool.

MARILYN MANSON's "Eat Me, Drink Me" sold 88,000 copies in the United States during its first week of release to debut at position No. 8 on The Billboard 200 chart. This is a significant drop from the 118,000 first-week tally registered by its predecessor, "The Golden Age of Grotesque", which landed at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 chart back in May 2003.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=74533

not really a big surprise, since GAOG suffered a big drop even after debuting at number one, and since the heart shaped glasses video was a little too revealing, i mean i never saw it on TV. he should have been smart and made a bit more viewer friendly so it could actually get circulation on the music channels. and its not he would be sacrificing his integrity since that sex scene was the pointless thing ever.

it just bothers me tho when u get manufactured shit like Avril Lavigne selling like crazy, and a real artist lilke manson who actually makes good, inspired, music not selling very well. it makes me sick. i think the bottom line is Manson is nowhere near the force he once was, and no one really cares about him anymore other than the loyal longtime fans.

Manson was never all THAT huge to begin with. In his prime he (they) would sell maybe a million per album. If EMDM sells 300k, that's less than a third of that, but not that huge of a loss. It's not the type of fall someone like MC Hammer took. Manson still has his fans.

ur right. my bad, i thought MA and ACSS sold? like maybe 2 or 3 million each but now that i looked into it they are both around a milion each. also, GAOG is certified platnum!!! i had no idea. thats not bad since HolyWood is still only gold, not to mention that GAOG debuted high but then had one of the biggest drops ever on the album charts.

Any word on how EMDM sold week #2?

The new album is scary bad. Two good tracks on the thing. It's a shame because I'm a huge Manson fan.

I think you're in the minority on that one. Probably my favorite band after GN'R and I think the album's brilliant.

Manson is one of my favorite artists. I like every album except "Holywood".. I'm on the fence about the new one it's so slow. And he said he recorded vocals lying face down on the floor.. and it shows.

Mechanical Animals is the best.

face down? damn was the mic in the floor?

no i'm pretty sure he was lying on his back, either holding the mic or with it hanging above his face. definitely not face down lol.

My thoughts exactly. Just cant see what people are raving about....

i thought it was great

Me too. It's the only album I've been listening to on and on in my car since it leaked.

Actually, Golden Age was never certified platinum, although Wikipedia would report otherwise. It's actually more like this:

Portrait: gold
SLC: platinum
ACSS: platinum
MA: platinum
Last Tour: none
HW: gold
GAOG: gold
LWF: gold

Eat Me, Drink Me will most likely go gold...eventually.

EMDM is my favorite album of 2007 after Year Zero and Libertad.

only Libertad is better IMO from this year

Manson Performs with Alice Cooper

Marilyn Manson joined Alice Cooper onstage during the second song of Cooper's concert at B'Estival in Bucharest, Romania Sunday night (July 1). Manson headlined the festival, which marked the first time Cooper and Manson have ever shared the stage.

With regards to his rumored rivalry with Manson, Alice Cooper told Romania's Hotnews.ro, "We invented the shock on stage. Manson re-invented it for another generation. Despite all similarities, our music doesn't have that much in common: he's more industrial, we're [rooted] in classic hard rock."

Cooper said it's hard to shock an audience anymore.

"It's because of television and news," he said. "Reality is more shocking than fantasy."

- Blabbercunt

Too bad they don't say what was performed.

It was actually Cooper joining Manson on stage, and they performed "Sweet Dreams". You can find it on YouTube. It's about fucking time they performed together. There needs to be a Cooper/Manson/Zombie tour!!

There needs to be another Zombie/Ozzy tour. That was badass.

well here's a pic of the 2

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/8444/6843ee2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

and sweet dreams video here: http://www.metalhead.ro/Downloads-Manson_si_Cooper_Live_Footage-770.html

I'm eighteen video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrJK4jel-5Q

a better sweet dreams here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKkmADWFcKM

I'd see that, though I wonder who'd headline?  It's an insult to think that Cooper might be playing second fiddle to anyone.

cooper was already opening for manson,   manson was headlining that night.   if this tour happend,  alice would go on first (so he can go to bed early .... cause hes OLD hahaha)-  then zombie, then manson cause hes the most famous.   

Manson is the "most famous"?  :rofl:  Alice has been doing this for almost 40 years, now, and has well over 20 studio albums. 

But, either way, those vids were fairly uninspired, like they didn't rehearse.   

Manson would play before Zombie. Zombie consistently outsells Manson and is far more popular and prolific, if not more infamous, overall.

After much debate, Ive decided Eat Me, Drink Me is probably my favorite Manson album after Mechanical Animals.

How well did Zombie's last album do?

At any rate, MM blows Zombie out of the H20.

OK so once again, I can't make it out to a show I already bought tickets for. This is for the Manson/Slayer show at the DCU Center in Worcester, MA on August 4th. I'm just looking to break even or as close to even as possible for this one, so PM me if you're interested at all and we'll go from there. I hate hawking my stuff on here, but I'm not big into eBay or just message boards in general, but this one and RoV. If anyone wants to go to the Worcester show, these are pit tickets and I'll get 'em out to you as quick as I can. PM me. Thanks.

i went to the slayer/MM show last night in camden. incredible show.

slayer was as good as ever, but their set was a little heavy on the new stuff.

i never saw manson but i was totally blown away. awesome, awesome show. he sounded great, as did the band. i was in the pit, center stage and he really connected with the fans.

at one point he grabbed someone's cell phone that was taking a pic of him, stuck down his pants as if taking a pic of his crotch, then threw it into the crowd a few feet past the person he stole it from. it was pretty funny.

Anybody going to Sundays show @ PNC in NJ?

New Audio Interview Available.

"Elliot in the Morning" recently conducted an interview with Marilyn Manson.

Download the audio file in MP3 format at:?

http://www.eitmonline.com/eitmonline2/media/eitmlive/manson.mp3

Marilyn Manson is being sued by former keyboard player Stephen Bier, who performed with the band under the name Madonna Wayne Gacy. In a lawsuit filed on Thursday (August 2) in Los Angeles, Bier has accused Manson of "filching millions of dollars the band made over the years" with the help of his manager, lawyer and business manager.

In an e-mail sent to the Post with the approval of his attorney, Bier stated that he was promised "partnership proceeds" from the band in 1993, only to see Manson spend large amounts of money on a "multi-million-dollar home," "a lavish wedding in Ireland" and "an engagement ring to Dita von Teese," Manson's former wife. In addition, Bier's lawsuit states that Manson also splurged on "sick and disturbing purchases of Nazi memorabilia and taxidermy (including the skeleton of a young Chinese girl)."

Bier said that when he requested his share of the so-called "partnership proceeds," Manson "devised a campaign to drive Bier out of the band and rob him of his entitlement."

Bier has played keyboards on every Manson album except for the newest one, "Eat Me, Drink Me". He was said to have left the Manson band shortly before the album's release in order to concentrate on his photography.

Manson has denied the charges, telling MTV News, "The fact that he's claiming that I've treated him unfairly, financially, is really ridiculous. And I would never spend my money on a Chinese girl skeleton. That would be crossing the line. It's a Chinese boy, for the record," he joked, before continuing. "[Bier and his lawyers are] going for shock value, obviously, and I couldn't be less surprised by how unshocking these things would be to the public."

Manson said he will defend himself against the allegations. "I wish there was some sort of legal angle to this whole thing, or some sort of common sense, or just even camaraderie after all the years that we knew each other," he continued. "I don't have an explanation for it. It just seems like another ex-bandmember suing me and trying to assassinate my personality as a means to financial gain, and it just seems old. It's just not fair. If I spent my money on anything, it was my family, and paying his salary for a year when we weren't even touring."

Manson is currently on a co-headlining tour with SLAYER that stops in Worcester, Massachusetts on Saturday (August 4).

(Thanks: Iamwormbuffet and FreakShow)

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=78110

That 's really lame,  :( A few years ago, Stephen aka Pogo was one of Manson's closest friends. It's not the first time Manson getss sued by a former member :  his former guitarist once known as Daisy Berkowitz sued him  about unpaid stuff as well.

Holy Shit! Marilyn Manson will come to sweden in december for 2 concerts and Turbonegro will be the opening act!! I must be there :hihi:

That should be a good damn show.

Manson + Turbonegro = Kickass show. Makes total sense : ok:

Manson + Slayer = Awkward and uncalled for marketing move. Couldn't lose my interest because it never had it. I still wound up not going to that show.

Yeah...two VERY different crowds.  Not a good match.

Just got back from Manson in Denver CO, and I must say, the show was fucking amazing! One of the best I've seen, anyone who says Manson has lost it is talking out their ass!!

P.S. Slayer sucked!! one of the reasons was the fans, nothing but a bunch of neo nazi hillbillies.

here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJicN31DhDQ) heart shaped Glasses from the show, sound was 50% better than this.

slayer are alright, but sound same all the time so, its basically just a bunch of riffs played at high speed with fast shouty singing, nothing amazing there lol.

Marilyn Manson's video for their second single off of Eat Me, Drink Me, "Putting Holes in Happiness":
http://music.yahoo.com/video/46209450

Marilyn Manson performing "Putting Holes in Happiness" on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno:
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=13992621

(http://photos1.hi5.com/0006/096/331/6anHBP096331-02.jpg)

Marilyn Manson burning the bible @ Irvinve, Ca 


Awesome show, I was there.

Slayer kicked ass , Loved them both : ok:

(http://photos1.hi5.com/0005/452/339/2xwFoT452339-02.jpg)

thanx for the links, i really like the music video. i hope this isnt manson's last album

i like ur avatar by the way, evan rachel wood is hotttt.

Hell yeah she is :beer: I'm almost disappointed Manson got her :hihi:

von teese is hotter though

I dont know if people outside Argentina can watch this webcast, but give it a try if you're interested

Manson is playing live RIGHT NOW (there's more than an one hour left in the show) in Buenos Aires at the Pepsi Music Festival.

A new pro-shot will be around in a few days. The band is sounding great.

http://strm01.fibertel.com.ar/evento.asx

Marilyn Manson
Pepsi Music 2007
Club Ciudad De Buenos Aires - Buenos Aires, Argentina
September 29th, 2007

01- Intro / If I Was Your Vampire (8:58)
02- Disposable Teens (3:32)
03- mOBSCENE (3:34)
04- Irresponsible Hate Anthem (4:33)
05- Just a Car Crash Away (5:43)
06- Sweet Dreams / Lunchbox (7:47)
07- The Fight Song (3:52)
08- Putting Holes In Happiness (5:26)
09- Heart-Shaped Glasses (5:04)
10- The Dope Show (4:27)
11- Rock is Dead (4:15)
12- The Beautiful People / Outro (7:10)

http://rapidshare.com/files/59636608/MARILYNMANSON-PEPSIMUSIC2007.rar

thanks dawg :beer:

Saw Marilyn Manson live the other day.

Interesting show. A lot more theatrics than what I'm used to.  :hihi:

The tour is promoting the Eat Me, Drink Me album and the show featured four tracks from that album.


Also, a lot of pauses between songs. Either complete silence while the stage was prepared for the next number or with sound clips playing.


Turbonegro was the opening act. Pretty entertaining. Except the "rock talk" between the songs was a bit clich?.


/jarmo

What kind of stuff were they saying?

Like... "We are Turbonegro and we play motherfucking rock and roll", or "Turbonegro is not the Mormon Tabernacle F**king Choir", or "We have an element of danger that is missing in rock these days!" ??

Does anybody want to get drunk tonight?

The topics were the city they were playing in, alcohol, sex and rock n' roll......  :hihi:




/jarmo

They could have practised it some or something. it's painful watching 2 such legendary figures getting together only to poop such a shitty outcome out.

I really don't like the way Manson is singing nowadays..it sounds like he has lost a lot of his voice. It might be just watching/listening to too many bootlegs with shitty quality though. Or him being wasted. Or whatever.

I just know the guy has atleast one brilliant album still left in him. He shoud stop being such a relevant and important artisssssst and start being a musican again and fucking release it.  :-\

The show I saw, he said a doctor had told him not to do the show since he might permanently damage his vocal chords.....

He didn't sound like he does on those bootlegs...



/jarmo

He's coming to Finland tomorrow I think. Regretting a little I dint get the tickets in there. :-\ He was great in Provinssi few years back atleast.
Would really love to be impresed by him for a change. He is/was able to pull off utterly amazing stage act during Good Old Times(tm)

I thought about going to the scandinavium show, but my friends couldn't get their thumbs out of their asses and decide wether they wanted to go or not.. I saw turbonegro last summer, i loved them

That's a horribly inadequate setlist for such a strong catalogue :no:

This is the setlist for the current European tour:

   1.  "Trio No. 2 in E-Flat Major for Piano, Violin, and Violoncello"
   2. "If I Was Your Vampire"
   3. "Disposable Teens"
   4. "mOBSCENE"
   5. "Tourniquet"
   6. "Irresponsible Hate Anthem"
   7. "Are You the Rabbit?"
   8. "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)"/"Lunchbox"
   9. "The Fight Song"
  10. "Putting Holes in Happiness"
  11. "Heart-Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand)"
  12. "Rock Is Dead"
  13. "The Dope Show"
  14. "The Reflecting God"

  15. "Antichrist Superstar"
  16. "The Beautiful People"




/jarmo

The Manson show last August was the best show I've seen in years. Manson's voice was in fine form that night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADfLrZyt3Xg&feature=related

Manson at one of the swedish shows saying "we're filming this show tonight for a DVD so i wanna make sure that you know that you're the loudest motherfuckers in the entire world"

if he's serious (i god damn hope he is :hihi:) is it a DVD of just the show above or a DVD for the whole tour? any word on this?

only like two songs from mm.

sweet dreams and rock is dead

I'm going to see Manson in a few weeks!? : ok:

Saw him in 2003...good show.

Too bad John 5, Pogo and Twiggy are gone.

got my hands (in a suspicious way..) on MM's autobiography today :)

sounds interesting id like to read that, any links to buy?

heres the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Long-Hard-Road-Out-Hell/dp/0060987464/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199898760&sr=8-1


i actually own it, i havent read it yet tho. i've heard good things about it from friends.

It's a great book.

Smart, informative, insightful and artistic.

Manson's flat out brilliant, a true visionary.

in one day i've read 152 pages! (and i'm not finished with reading this day i'll at least another 50 before i go to bed i think)

some stuff is a bit daunting but some stuff make me laugh out loud, like the way his feelings for this Lisa abruptly changed? :rofl:

while reading i today thought, it would be awesome if manson and twiggy got together then i log onto myspace and read this:



a bit shame about Sk?ld leaving but still this is fucking cool

WOW, Twiggy is back? this is GREAT news. hes the best songwriter mansons had. (Zim Zum being a close second) they better record another album together!!!

why did skold leave?

ammicabely what does that mean, good or bad?

its good, it means it was a peaceful/friendly split.

All he needs now is to fall back in Reznor's good graces.

i thought he had done, back in 2000?

But then apparently fell out of again. I'm happy to hear this news, it's really big and hopefully a change will be good to revitalize Manson. Not that he needed it in my opinion. Skold is a top class producer and songwriter and probably Manson's best guitarist to date (for Manson ... John 5 is the more talented player).

Anyone going to hammerstein show on 29th?

Be that as it may..every single album since Skold came in and Twigs left has been medioce at best. When it comes  to EMDM, by mediocre I mean utter shit.
So yay, Twiggy returning just might give Manson the kick in the ass he needs.

I couldn't disagree more, and I'm a fan since about '94. I've watched all the changes. Eat Me, Drink Me is a phenomenal work, and Golden Age is for whatever reason highly underrated. Eat Me, Drink Me is Manson's best album since Mechanical Albums (their best album). I respect Golden Age for Manson's innovative wordplay and intertwining of obscure lyrical themes alone. I think you had to already be familiar with the art movements in Weimar Germany or the Da Da aesthetic to really appreciate that album. Post-Twiggy, Manson's albums have become more personal and less catered to a specific fan base. They've become more challenging. If you disagree, that's fine and I don't need to do some point counterpoint here, it's not an interest of mine. I'm just telling you how I feel, personally, about these works.

i wouldnt call  mansons post twiggy material "utter shit" althought i did find golden age quite lacking. Eat Me Drink Me is a solid record in my opinion as well.

but i think we can all agree that Mechanical Animals is his best. i love that album so damn much. and twiggy was a large part of why it was so great. although it is arguable who did more as far as songwriting for that record, Zim Zum or twiggy, its probably twiggy tho.

Well..I could disagree a lot more. Mechanical Animals being my fav album as well and everything. GAOG is indeed very innovative when it comes to clever  word plays. And that, in my opinion is everything there is to  be found on that entire record. 

Musically it is some sort of a pile of anti-creativity. There is absolutely nothing interesting,  exiting or memorable  happening anywhere on the album. Title track and first 6 seconds of Vodeville being very notable exceptions.
It sounds like it is put together by someone who has been hired with job description: "write 16 tracks of  loud  industrial hard rock."
This someone wakes up at 8, goes to studio at 9, does his thing with the punch card, writes loud  industrial hard rock until it is 16.00. goes home, opens tv  and  tries to forget he has a job until it is 8 a.m again.

Music on the record has no innovation or desire to  achieve anything on it's own.  Music just says "ok I have Marilyn Manson singing over me about dumbo dressed in drag  flying over pre-world war germany and how the entire scene is clever comparison of being a celebrity who is ass fucking a japanese nazi  schoolgirl.  So. Why the fuck should *I* even try"  Then it(the music) just sighs and  starts going blahblahblahblah on the background of Manson's singing.

I think you are playing the Matrix reloaded - card. :)
When you reach a point where it takes reading very impressive 12  page by fans for fans -  essays  on Manson forums  with enough rambling  on philosophy and history of dadaism and what the fucking ever to earn you a  bachelor's degree until you can force yourself into liking a particular album..then it's just that, you forcing yourself into liking it.



Oops^^
 I just like bitching about the MM albums I don't like.
 If you disagree, that's fine and I don't need to do some point counterpoint here, it's not an interest of mine. I'm just telling you how I feel, personally, about these works.




yeah, MA is indeed amazing piece of work. And very brave thing to release in post ACSS state of career, imo. I always have lots of respect towards Manson for everything MA related <3
It was ridiculous how many critics and fans alike bashed the album when it came out. And supposedly still do. And how people blamed Manson from "selling out" when he just..moved on, he could have just released ACSS II there, but did not.
I think I recall reading Manson tried to get David Bowie to produce it? *that* would have been someting. (Not that I had any idea of how good/bad producer Bowie is but the cool factor would have been massive!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX1fqMGQWtI
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

It took ages to get past ever hearing that alone after the obligatory initial "woohoo new music from artist I like" heat had died.

skold was shown the door because twiggy is back

It's funny you should call it The Matrix Reloaded card. You know, I'm not that guy as much as you want to make me him. I've never forced myself to like anything, and being the fan of Mechanical Animals that I am, you can understand my disappointment in Holywood. That said, I'd always been a fan of Tim Skold, from Shotgun Messiah to his solo album to KMFDM/MDFMK. When he joined Manson, no one else knew who the hell he was, but I did and I thought it was something pretty special. Clearly, not everyone's into the type of industrial rock Skold's known for. Others aren't fans of John 5's writing. Ironically I did write a 12 page piece on Golden Age and it's artistic influences. Being fairly well informed and well versed in the types of artistic expression and the movements covered within the context of the album, because I actually drank absinthe and appreciated da da and the underground Weimar burlesque culture before Manson made it trendy to his fashionably challenged little n00b fans who aspire to become him, it's a piece I'm rather proud of. I can tell you don't like Skold's production or maybe that vein of industrial music, but don't discredit my background knowledge on those works or my ability to dissect them as anything but an overzealous fanboy, which I'm not.

Oh, and I'm not that huge a Matrix fan, but Reloaded is my favorite of the trilogy. Yeah, I used to be a theology student, I know you must hate me by now :hihi:

i think everything manson has done since mechanical animals has been great, animals is my favouriote album but i love each album after it, they all sound different and they all have some great stand out songs.

The new stuff, while tamer, still keeps the "weirdness" he had and he still has some very interesting songs, I liked heart shaped glasses when i first heard it and i still do.

While i preffer manson with a more metal industrial edge, ive not disliked much of his work.

His earlier stuff, anti christ and before is a mess in my opinion.

I know many will disagree on the statement about anti christ, personally i think people only bum it because trent reznor worked on it. Frankly i couldnt give a shit what trent did with manson as manson is clearly capable of making strong albums without him.

in addition, thought i just had.

Skold played guitar for manson now, so why couldnt he have stayed on gutiar, twiggy on bass as usual.

Then youd get a ultra ownage album?

While I enjoy Eat Me, Drink Me for the most part, I have to confess that the drum parts really suck.

I don't know if it's just the way the album was mixed or what, but the drums are incredibly dull, and repetitive throughout the album.

they are a tad tame compared to the various drum beats and added sample drum beats manson did on previous albums.

thats actually a good point..... i dont know why skold had to leave....

and, about Antichrist Superstar, i didnt like it much either for the longest time, until it just clicked. i still think its a TAD overrated but its a great album. i def. prefer Mechanical Animals over it tho, thats Mansons crowning achievement in my opinion.

i just heard that the band Ours is opening for Manson on the current tour... if anyone's going check them out, they are awesome!

maybe manson thought 3 main song writers was a crowd though? Thats also came into my head

Thanks for the info Chief...I'm going and I will def. check out Ours. I'm actually going to this show by myself.  :confused:

no problem!  if you want to listen to some songs before hand, go to this site:
http://www.killtheband.com/downloads.htm

They are one of the bands that i'm most excited about this year!
the singer has some of the best range and tone i've ever heard!

Twiggy is back! This is really great news. Eat Me Drink Me has grown on me to the point that I now love the album.

Taking a page from the Van Halen playbook, it was announced yesterday that Marilyn Manson and longtime collaborator guitarist Twiggy Ramirez would reunite for Manson?s Eat Me, Drink Me tour. Rock Daily talked to Manson hours after the announcement, and he shared the story behind their reunion. Though the two had already re-connected during a chance meeting on the streets of Los Angeles, it was Manson witnessing another reunion that inspired him to invite Twiggy back. ?The turning point for me was when I went to see Led Zeppelin?s reunion show, and I saw Jimmy Page and Robert Plant look at each other for a moment, and they probably said, ?Holy shit, we wrote ?Stairway To Heaven.'? I wanted that look again,? Manson explains. ?I want to look at Twiggy and go ?Holy shit, we wrote ?The Beautiful People.? I called him and I said ?Let?s go do this.?? Plus, the duo had some unfinished business. ?We started music together because we wanted to bring about the apocalypse, and we realized we didn?t finish,? Manson says. ?The world could suffer much more if we were together again, and we really wanted to bring back the suffering.?

With Twiggy back in the fold after departing over creative differences after 2000?s Holy Wood, how would this effect Manson?s ?Rape of the World? tour, set to launch in a week? ?We?re still gonna play some new songs,? says Manson, ?but I think we?re excited to play some stuff that we haven?t done in a long time. I don?t think it ever felt as right without him.?

While Manson is eager to return to working on his film Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll, he promises that his reunion with Twiggy will eventually result in a new album. ?The concept originally of he and I getting back together was ?Let?s write some music together,? ? says Manson. ?But life?s too short, and this has to happen now because we couldn?t stand not being on stage with each other, and wouldn?t want to wait until we made another record to tour. So this tour will spawn another record, one hundred percent.?

Yeah sorry, it came out sounding more personal than it was supposed to be, the whole matrix- card thing. temptation to say it was just too high to resist! Let's have sex agree to diagree on GAOG and and not even touch the subject of EMDM and be close personal friends forever? <3 <3 <3


Meathead has made absolutely freaking hillarious cartoon describing, in VERY accurate fashion, what happened with Twiggy. Out of all(mostly brilliant) works of him, this would have to be one of the better ones.

It has Manson, Trent,  - - - >Axl Rose < - - - , Roger Waters, Slash, Zeppelin..it has !EVERYTHING!.

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/cartoon031.htm

lol thats damn funny!!!

The axl parts are legend

HA HA, that was great!

Yes. Let's have sex be close, personal friends forever :love: Besides, that is one of Meathead's best animations ... ever.

Loved EMDM...very stripped down and personal and, as always, full of good hooks. Still, glad Twiggy is back.

Ok, two things...

(1) What is the "The Matrix Reloaded card"?

(2) Glad to see some people giving props to EMDM and MA, but I really think his best, most underrated work is HolyWood. It was MM best lineup, with both John 5 and Twiggy on board. It just rocks like a bastard....

Saw the opening show of the new tour last night in Orlando. I wouldnt consider myself a fan but I was impressed with how good the show was. I would definitely see him again.

yeah heres the Orlando setlist, its FANTASTIC!!! fucking COMA WHITE!! (copied from someone who went to see it at the ETS boards)


1) Crucifiction in Space (Manson uses Catwalk)
2) Disposable Teens (speech about Twiggy before DT)
3) Irresponsible Hate Anthem (Manson is all over Twiggy)
4) Great Big White World
5) mOBSCENE (speech about Twiggy's virginity (maybe to these songs, LED Screen is the face from the single, hannibal mask - Rob and Twiggy do back up vocals)
6) If I Was Your Vampire
7) Heart Shaped Glasses (is all over Rob now - crowd missed sing-a-long part, the Evan robot is used)
 Sweet Dreams (head light helmet is used)
9) Lunchbox
10) Rock n Roll Nigger
11) Tourniquet
12) Little Horn (the crowd went insane)
13) Putting Holes in Happiness (Rob's solo is different, but good)
14) The Dope Show ("now .... i need a fix ... cause i'm going down")
15) Rock is Dead
16A) Coma White (Speech: "Only for Orlando ...")
16B) transition in to chorus from COMA BLACK
17) The Reflecting God (speech about being a band for only a few days, something about "Talkin cant loose whore who know to fuck ...." CHRIS PLAYS DRUMS WITH GINGER)
1 The Beautiful People
19) AntiChrist Superstar

Fucking stellar setlist : ok: A good dose of MA, plus "Rock 'n' Roll Nigger" and "Little Horn" :o Maybe I'm more glad Twiggy's back than I first realized.

I sure hope they hit Denver again this year. Maybe the new record will be out before summer ends. I can't fucking wait to see this line up. :drool:

By the way, in response to an earlier post, I was mainly going to the show to see Ours. Very good band, great material. 99% of the crowd in Orlando wanted nothing to do with them and were very vocal in letting them know it throughout the entire set.

i still cant believe twiggy's back. here are some pics:

(http://www.jencray.com/images/music/marilyn%20manson/marilynmanson_7.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff6/omgitsdynamite/twiggyconcert08/100_0868-2.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff6/omgitsdynamite/twiggyconcert08/100_0840-2.jpg)


and a promo pic of both of them:

(http://www.mansonusa.com/users/alex/mmtwiggy_med.jpg)

twiggy....kinda looks uncool in those live photos, like hes too old to do the make up thing now :/

too old for make up? tell dee snider that :hihi:

the promo pic looks great

Just shut your mouth you little shithead. Twiggy looks cool as fuck in those picks. Go jack off on to your Crashdiet albums.

your an * insert word beginning with an A, second word hole* gunner80. its a shame because you like alot of good music.

I can type whatever the hell i think, slong as it isnt completely derogatory such as "twiggy looks like a right old bastard now" i think my comment is a perfectly acceptable post on my opinion that HE doesnt look as cool now. Unlike manson who never seems to look too aged.

You always seem to try and bring up and use my liking of crashdiet in an attempt to offend me somehow. I think you need to grow  up and accept other peoples opinions, there are far more people around here who post much worse comments about artists without showing them respect either.

So kindly piss off gunner80 and perhaps grow up while your at it.

Forums, accepting other peoples opinions  ??? Where do you live?

ps. the promo picture is great.

yeah well my point was my post wasnt exactly a over the top insult.

plus if he really wanted to debate such a trivial issue with me, he could have gone a better way about it, instead of making himself look a retard when hes what, 27?

I am retarded, but so are you...that makes us equals. also I turn 28 Friday.
 :-*
P.S. I'm also not the one who goes into threads over and over and over again just to say I don't like a band.

Stu, you're 34 years old. You don't have to go to school anymore.

Nah, you're just  the one who likes to into threads to go tell whoever it is that doesnt agree with your opinion that they are *insert wide range of swear words and insults here* over and over.

So i think the door swings both ways gunner80. Happy birthday for friday.

Coma White with Coma Black outro

http://www.vimeo.com/645277


manson sounds AWESOME. the whole bands is great.


some more pics of twiggy:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2084/2225544688_a0dfe6f40c.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2022/2224753967_c45dd9c561.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/2224754909_a1fce89a4a.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2046/2224755385_6b0c8d5985.jpg)

Last night was my first time seeing manson, and I have to say I didn't love it.  I was expecting a theatrical show and there were no theatrics whatsoever...I was actually kind of bored.  IMO, the show was very mediocre. I'm glad I went, but it didn't rock my world at all.

p.s. Chief, I tried to make it for Ours, but they started so early (8-ish), that I didn't make it in time for them.

twiggy looks fkn' amazing and coma white is among my favourite MM songs :yes:

That's weird.

This is what I got at the show I saw in December:


- A microphone in the shape of a knife
- A huge chair for "Are You The Rabbit?"
- The Antichrist Superstar podium.
- A raised platform for one song.

Then there was confetti and stuff too...



/jarmo

Still uses the micraphone and the podium. Used the Evan robot for "Heart Shaped Glasses". It was toned down from the videos Ive seen of past shows but still alot of theatrics. I was impressed.

i was looking at the setlists of some of the recent shows and they played the song "mechanical animals"! :o


it would be fantastic if twiggy and manson record an album.  i really hope they do.

they probably will

damn that sucks.  it's too bad you missed Ours because i have a feeling they put on a better show !

I read on wikipedia that MM had covered OIAM, but thought no that can't be, i'd know about that.. but it sourced back to htgth http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=66 and http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=61 so i guess his version is out there.. anybody here who has it or have heard it or something?


EDIT: i checked on mansonusa and it looks like it was never released.. damn shame

back in the days when manson was hitting his prime. shame he didnt release it.

What prime? He's still releasing great music. I think what you mean to say is "when he was most popular."

Prime meaning when he was releasing his best material. and having his best phase of image and performances.

so in this recent interview: http://www.mansonusa.com/headlines/fullnews.php?id=560

manson describes the new record as "very ruthless, very heavy, and very violent."


sounds good to me!  :drool:

god damn, that's the kind of record i want from MM, awesome, thanks for posting

this makes me excited even thought it'll take some time before it's coming
"MM: this next record is gonna be about taking back what people robbed us of
magazine:what do you feel you were robbed of?
MM: wether it be time or people kincking us when we're down. that's why the next record will be very ruthless, very heavy and very violent ..and i'm excited to make it"

another thing that is pure speculations of course but..

if finck had left gnr and wasn't allowed back, but regretted leaving the chance to write his own stuff since he joined NIN, he could leave NIN too and ask marilyn if he could join his band :) that would kick fucking ass :headbanger:

From Blabbermouth:


Former LIMP BIZKIT/current BLACK LIGHT BURNS member Wes Borland has joined MARILYN MANSON as the group's new guitarist. The news was announced by Manson himself at a press conference earlier today ahead of his band's appearance tomorrow (Friday, August 15) at the ETP Festival in Seoul, Korea.

Manson said, "We have a new guitar player that's gonna play for the first time tomorrow; it's the first time we'll play on stage [together]. His name is Wes Borland and he used to be in a really terrible band that he left because he felt that it was a destructive force in art, and he has his own band, BLACK LIGHT BURNS, but now he is in MARILYN MANSON. We don't know how permanent that is, but starting tomorrow will be the first step. So this will be the most indestructible MARILYN MANSON."

Watch a clip of Manson talking about Wes Borland joining the band below. (Note: Borland's name is mentioned around the 2:40 mark.)

MARILYN MANSON is in the middle of recording a new album, which is expected to be released sometime next year.

Manson's longtime bassist, Twiggy Ramirez, toured with Manson earlier this year for the first time since 2002. The two co-wrote "Antichrist Superstar", "Mechanical Animals" and "Holy Wood (In the Shadow of the Valley of Death)" together and Manson told The Salt Lake Tribune this past spring that he couldn't be happier about Ramirez returning.

"I missed having my best friend," Manson said. "We were like brothers."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSj3l0T6Rl8

^soounds fuckin awesome :smoking:

Does anyone know if Chris Vrenna is part of the studio&songwriting team or just a live musican?
He's brilliant thing to have around in studio environment.
He has released solo stuff  under the name Tweaker, and most of it is very cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y55305sxK50

On paper, Manson has very strong songwriting team at the moment, actually.

MARILYN MANSON played its first show with new guitarist Wes Borland (LIMP BIZKIT, BLACK LIGHT BURNS) Friday night (August 15) at the ETP Festival (Eerie Taiji People Festival) in Seoul, Korea.

The group's setlist was as follows:

01. Cruci-Fiction In Space
02. Disposable Teens
03. Irresponsible Hate Anthem
04. Great Big White World
05. mOBSCENE
06. If I was your vampire
07. The Love Song
08. Sweet Dreams / Rock'n'Roll N.gger
09. Tourniquet
10. Little Horn
11. Reflecting God
12. The Dope Show
13. Rock Is Dead
14. 1996
15. Antichrist Superstar
16. The Beautiful People

That set list is perfect.  :drool: 

BLB is pretty cool (just got their debut) so I'm happy to see WB in the band. I hope he plays/writes on the new CD.

Getting excited about Manson?s new album. I loved EMDM (and thought TGAOG was okay) but it just wasn?t the same with Twiggy. I feel that the Twiggy era was one of the best bands of the 90s/early 00s and am excited to see what they have cooking. I also hope Wes Borland gets to contribute. 

http://www.maniatv.com/shows/all-access/playlists/new-episodes/videos/chris-vrenna-carrie-borzillo-vrenna-interview-s02e04-082608

Chris  Vrenna interviewed by something that is prolly most anoying fucking creature in the universe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgAsxGq_Mzg


pretty hard album i guess :drool:

love those shades.

rockstars.

I'm here and wanna talk Manson.

Anyone reply.

(I'm not sounding desperate?)

In other news,

Manson says we might see a single release before the year's end. I hope it's true.

haha i shall discuss manson with you in a few minutes. I must have tea first.


But to start it off. What do you think his best album is?

None. They are all trash. Rah!

Only joking. Mechanical Animals, obviously. But I like most stuff pre Golden Age. I don't have any time for anything that came afterwards (and including!).

I dunno why, it seems most people don't like golden age, i think it kicks a lot of ass


favourite album? i can't say,

weakest is maybe portrait although it has good songs like get your gunn, lunchbox, dope hat and cake and sodomy, pretty much doesn't listen to other songs on that record

last album lacked in asskicking songs

It varies between Portrait of an American family and Antichrist Superstar (most of the time I lead towards the former).

Odd I know.


Golden Age of Grotesque is where he gained tons of new lame fans and lost tons of older ones - turning point of the career if you ask me. I fancy the album myself, I think most don't enjoy it due to lack of 'evident concepts.' They are there, although vague as all hell.

i enjoy Mechanical Animals, Holywood and Golden age the most.

I was never really into Anti Christ, it always felt messy.

crazy i know.

I love Holywood - crazy I know.

Antichrist Superstar is my favorite rock album by Manson, and Mechanical Animals is my favorite pop album by him.

Mechanical Animals always seemed like more glam rock too me.

Compared to Antichrist Superstar, I think it's a very pop oriented album.

you know I never really thought of it that way , sir. You got a point there.

True but the lyrical themes and concept aren't all that darkened either. Mechanical Animals may be heavily influenced by drugs but that's not anywhere near as dark or complex as Antichrist Superstar is.

Thats why its awesome haha.

Its like he took T-Rex and Bowie and made it industrial and very trippy.

(http://www.mansonusa.com/headlines/uploads/revolver_feb09_pg2.jpg)

holy fuck, this could be the best manson record yet! can't fuckin wait for it

 MARILYN MANSON PRESS RELEASE 2009


and here's an interview:
(http://www.mansonusa.com/headlines/uploads/kerrang1809/kmarch9_page1.jpg)

it's gonna be awesome

wow this is exciting. while i liked the past two albums, i think twiggy's return will mark manson's first truly fantastic album since Mechanical Animals.


i liked Holy Wood but i think John 5 cramped twiggy's style. i never thought 5 was a good fit for manson. on this new album twiggy handled bass and guitar so it should be sick.

i cant see this free download?

its not available till friday for US people or saturday for everyone else

oh, i thought it was friday for us too, damn it i've been looking forward for friday so much  :hihi: guess manson will cure my hangover then, i hope it's gonna make it worse though with some brutal shit

well i guess u should still check friday  cuz im not 100% sure lol.

I've known about this for a little while. I get news first on Heirophant.

I assume Thursday at 12:00 pacific time it shall go online.

I can't wait.

dude u gotta post more often! i don't check mansonusa that often, although a bit more often now when the album is coming  :drool: :smoking:

I'll have to start then since people want news here now.

As for knowing awhile, I always spend my time there. I'm a member of the forum, so maybe that's why I know good insider info :p

(same user name there as here)

Two songs leaked today. :D

The Wow and Arma-Goddamn-Mother-Fuckin'-Geddon.

I love The Wow. It's definitely about Dita.

link :)?

I'll upload them in a little bit ;D

good times. problem is i doubt ill be online....

how's the quality?

aint happy with them new tracks.

Think they are weak, very weak.

I just cranked mechanical animals on after, no comparison.

Well, that's a given haha.

I like them but I'm biased for the band. I didn't expect much from Arma-God-Damn-Mother-Fuckin'-Geddon by the title alone. I dig the Wow though.

 8)

We're from America in less than 5 hrs. though!

with Twiggy, and apparently the guy that produced antichrist and Mechanical animals.

Im dissappointed with these two tracks.

if u dont like the 2 new songs, still give the album a chance, there are 13 songs left that we havent heard.

if course ill give it a chance. but i kn ow already i wont dig on the production if it sounds like those two tracks.

Just hope there are better songs. I felt those songs to be quite minimalist, which i dont like.

We're From America is finally available for download on his official site.


def. the best of the bunch,  the lyrics are a little disappointing,  but it sure is rockin'.

twiggy finally delivered the goods. nice riffage.

the wow and armageddon leaks
are demos..

heard Armageddon, ehhhh...not horrible but no where near on par with Superstar/Animals/Holywood, which in my opinion the golden age of Marilyn Manson...although I did enjoy some of the guitar work on Eat me Drink Me...I think this new record will be good, every album Manson has done usually has some bright spots...

Just heard WFA--sounds a bit like Nirvana's "Negative Creep," IMHO.

I like it, looking forward to hearing the new album.

it does have similar choruses

i think it's pretty damn kickass :headbanger: can't wait to see manson this summer

I personally hear Borland playing on We're From America. The riffs remind me of QOTSA and the riff itself is like Borland's band Black Light Burns' song Mesopotamia.

Another song leaked too guys, Four Rusted Horses, it's that swampy acoustic song he mentioned in one interview. It's great.

i thought borland was on we're from america too but i'm pretty sure he was just a live guitarist for manson. this new album is all twiggy on bass and guitar. and since limp bizkit have reunited i wonder who is going to play guitar when manson tours?

rob holliday never left...
he was just touring with prodigy

but prodigy will also tour this tummer

3 other songs are known to exist and have been leaked.

Devour
May Be Harmful If Swallowed
Into the Fire

I do not have them though, sadly =/

im gonna hold out till the whole album leaks. it'll probably be within the next couple weeks.

yeah i think i'll do that too

The new song is ok - I'm hoping it's a grower.

Can't really condone posting links to leaked music.

i got the new song off his site.

not impressed.

i dunno, i think hes lost it personally.

Well Prince lost it 20 years ago - what's your point?

I always try to tell people man does his best thinking when he's young.

Your probably right on your Prince timeline.

Although, as ive already said, his latest effort has been much better.

With Manson, he has alot less albums to offer than Prince.

Mansons last good album in my opinion, was Golden Age. I felt he mixed the industrial sound real cool.

"May be Harmful if Swallowed" is a badass song.

copied this from mansonusa though, Mechanical-Worm it's your job to report about manson to us (me)  :P

this together with AIC is probably the 2 records i'm looking forward to hear the most  :yes:

excited about what they seem to be saying is a return to the mechanical animals type of sound.

A fucked verison of Devour leaked online today. it has sound clips of Arnold S. during parts of the song added in by the leaker.

Devour is now my new favorite song. It's really amazing. Take my word for it.

As for official, I bought the WFA single yesterday and I foudn the Four Rusted Horses mix on it great.

Album Cover:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Highendoflow.jpg)


Official track listing:

01 Devour
02 Pretty as a Swastika
03 Leave a Scar
04 Four Rusted Horses
05 Arma - goddamn - motherfukin - geddon
06 Blank and White
07 Running to the Edge of the World
08 I Want to Kill You Like They Do in the Movies
09 WOW
10 Wight Spider
11 Unkillable Monster
12 We're From America
13 I Have to Look Up Just to See Hell
14 Into the Fire
15 15

i'm pretty sure this will be a top3record of 2009 :smoking:

I'm hoping so too.  :)  I'm seeing Manson with Slayer again this July in Denver.

how many times has he toured with those guys now lol

Looking forward to this!
So Amazing Twigs went back.
Cover looks like something made for an unofficial bootleg tho:O

This is the second time I believe.

Wasn't impressed with Were from America. :(

I thought it was kinda catchy...



/jarmo

New Arma-goddamn-motherfuckin-geddon music video (it debuted yesterday)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7DOdApRuw&feature=channel_page

It's also on his site in better quality.

Elegy Interview about the new album translated to english

Q: You are currently shooting the video for ?Arma-goddamn-motherfuckin-geddon?. Is it the first single of your album?

MM: I suppose, technically speaking. But you can?t really talk about singles because of the evolution of music technology and industry. You can?t release things when you want the way you want. But in any case it is the first video that will air on MTV for the new album?

Q: It must be funny doing a video for that song?

MM: Well, we are shooting it with the same attitude that I had when I wrote the lyrics. It?s funny and surprising that the label is trying to distance themselves from what I say, they want to tone it down, I think?But I don?t care now. I am so happy to come back with this new album which also marks my best friend Twiggy?s comeback in the band. Twiggy and I have gone through so many weird things together in our lives, the making of this album included. It was incredible to work together again. And we have a really good time shooting this video, because we keep the same attitude?Did you manage to listen to the album?

Q: Only eight tracks?

MM: You still get an idea, then, because it?s difficult to use We?re From America as a single, it isn?t the most representative song on the album. You may have heard Four Rusted Horses which is in my opinion a lot more representative.

Q: The beginning of the song sounds like a blues song a bit like ?Personal Jesus"?

MM: Well, yeah, maybe ther is a little of Depeche Mode or Johnny Cash in it, not only musically but also in the themes used on the whole album. The songs appear in the order they were written. We spent three months recording the music, and almost the same time for the lyrics. We officially finished the recording on January 5th, my birthday. The last track is called ?15? because 15 is a number I have a fetish for. It has many meanings for me. It is the exact number of letters in my full name, Brian Hugh Warner, it also represents my birth date; 1, 5 = January 5th, my birth year which is 1969 and 6+9 = 15, and so on.

It is very present on Mechanical Animals. Speaking of ?15?, this song can be understood on several levels. The last three songs on the record were written during one of the most difficult moments in my life. I cannot separate my life from my art, and I don?t want to. I recorded the lyrics of most songs in one take, instinctively. I was under the impression that I had sung them before, as if I picked them up from nowhere, as if they flown through me. I felt like I was going back in time and going forward at the same time. I knew why I was here and what I was doing, but it was hard to be aware of it without being on drugs. And all of this stopped the first week of January, when I finished the last lyric recordings for ?15?, as I told you, on the morning of my birthday. I never really have a party for my birthday, unless starting now when I sing that song.

Q: On Four Rusted Horses you speak about a coffin and seem to project yourself into your own funeral...

MM: Yeah, this record is still very new for me, even if it is the first that I like to listen to again and again after having recorded it. That?s because each time I listen to it, I discover new meanings in it that concern me. I wrote all this so instinctively. There is a strong unifying thread. I was not in a good place. It is very autobiographical because I wrote it while looking into my life and thinking that things were getting better but I realized that wasn?t the case, they were getting worse. I ended up writing 15, it was a necessary act for me. I thought the album was finished with Into The Fire, but I realized that I hadn?t accomplished everything. And when you ask me about Four Rusted Horses, I realize I?m still wondering what this song is about?I know what I wanted to say when I wrote it, but it seems to have another meaning today. I didn?t understood how much it was talking about the band, about the writing process and whatever I may say, people will always read an apocalyptic feeling into it. You are the first person that I?ve spoke to about the album in an interview. I haven?t started to promote it yet, so I still need to start thinking objectively about what the album means to me.

What I wanted first was to take people into my bedroom. On my website you can see a photograph of me sitting on my bed, surrounded by walls where all the lyrics are written. It?s not very decorative but it is where I wrote the album in those six months. There is no better way to explain the process behind the writing, apart from listening to the songs. I talked about that a little [to Kerrang], but I?ve not been interviewed yet on the songs, you?re the first. It is still a little difficult for me, but I suppose I am well placed to talk about it (laughs).

Q: The new album is titled The High End Of Low. Is that a reference to a new beginning, finally seeing the end of the tunnel, to an extent?

MM: Well, that?s a possible interpretation [laughs]. Someone asked me how I felt, and I told him, ?Well, I?m at the end of low?. And I didn?t really say it in a way that was positive, but there is sort of an allegoric or metaphoric meaning to it that I didn?t think about at the time. Trial by fire?Like Lucifer falling from the skies. I started afresh, like you said. So the ?low? was me feeling at the bottom of a hole, and the ?high? is the fact of me feeling well, so I said to myself that I?d reached ?the end of low?. So I suppose it is actually a rather positive title, and at the end the record is about redemption. In any case, that?s how I look at it now.

Q: Again the vampire theme is present. Devour, for instance, makes me think of Trouble Every Day?

MM: One of my favourite films! That?s a great compliment. That was the first song that I sang and the photographs for the album are closest to it.