Here Today... Gone To Hell!

What about this song?  it looks like it's goin' to be the first single. I don't hear people talkin' about this song yet, How does it sound? Heavy, rocker, punk, ballad ...?

Any bootleg would be aprecciated

hopefully we'll be able to hear better bootlegs from the argentina show

I heard it twice. The riff is simular to U2's vertigo, the chorus is definately not as good as Get Out The Door.

very very very very similar to U2's vertigo riff..

a really fuckin' good song, Great riff, great chorus, great middle slow part, great solo!!!! I want to hear the studio version

i just wanna hear any version

I didnt think it was anything special.  I like Let It Roll more.

for a first single, it seems rather weak to be honest.  although a studio version could blow my mind for all I know.   But what I heard doesn't even come close to Slither.

I agree, Really dislike the vocals...

So far on all the new songs scott has been a big let down to me but I probably should reserve further judgement untill i've heard the studio versions....

I like it okay!  Its growing on me!

I liked it, this song Rocks!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45wiR4KryZA

Great Clip of this song!  I love it now!

Holy shit this is one hell of a song! :beer:

maybe i'll like the studioversion.........

First impression - it's okay.  Maybe it'll take some getting used to for me

Summary:

Mediocre riff
mediocre riff
bad half time chorus
mediocre riff
medicore riff
bad half time chorus
'trippy' middle section
really fast solo with boring riff backing it
chorus
riff


It's fantastic! A surefire hit!

I like it more than Let It Roll after listening a few more times. Roll is just too repetitive.


That middle section really makes the song stand out.

The band forgot to throw in a few computer blips and beeps at the end of the 'trippy' middle section... I guess that's what seperates the good songs from the great!

Anyways, this song doesn't do all that much for me... I think Get Out The Door makes a better first single.

Dylan didn't need to and his songs are great.

This is so similar to Exile On Main St.

I guess the only upside to this is that you saved Jarmo a post.

Ha!  Hilarious.

This song is not that awful!  I think it blows Big Machine out of the water!

I don't think Scott meant Libertad sounds like Exile, just that it is a quality album of that caliber.
I'll wait to hear the studio version before I make my final judgement.

How many times can the line "She keeps her motor clean' be used in a song?


That is a HORRIBLE LYRIC

No he didn't, since you didn't stick to the topic.  : ok:

So, stick to the topic.





/jarmo

I like the drumming and the Slash.  Actually, the whole band (not counting scott) sounds great....  As for the lyrics, the part about texas is pretty bad too, but, he does have some catchy parts. 

So far the songs are on par, and maybe more creative with CB.

like thats hard to do.

if this is the first single, it should blow Slither out of the water, or at least be right up there next to it.

I wasn't that impressed either. I mean it sounds ok, but it hardly meets the hype that's been said about this album.

I'll still reserve my final judgement until I hear the studio version, but I like Let It Roll better than this song.

This is actually my least favorite of the new tracks. Im surprised that they didnt pick something else like get out the door for the first single since it seems like it could do pretty well getting some air play considering the catchyness of the chorus and what not.

The song is alot better after a few listens. Musically its superb. Some of the lryics arent very hot, but the melody is fine.

Im not gonna listen to anymore crappy live versions.

Dont wanna spoil the album.

What the hell does Bob Dylan has to do with this? He is in Guns N Roses now? The best band in the world with mediocre songs after 15 years.

Make a similair summary for the GnR demo's that have leaked. Oh wait, that's not fair since it's only demos. But this is live so that's different. (http://images.fok.nl/s/emo.gif)

BTW I can't wait for that amazing album of yours to come out soon, it's fantastic that it will be as good as Dylan's. (http://images.fok.nl/s/emo.gif) Cause you know, Dylan is the standard for great music. (http://images.fok.nl/s/emo.gif)

Seriously, I have never seen anyone as negative and hypocrite as you are posting on a forum. Maybe you should start practicing a sport or something, then you wouldn't take everything so seriously. (http://images.fok.nl/s/emo.gif)

I like it more than Let It Roll. Great riff. Sounds a bit like Vasoline at the beginning. Waiting for the studios...

i dunnom its a rock thing, ask bon jovi they have used it too.

IT ISN'T SHE BUILDS QUICK MACHINES...
This song call She Mine, and I like that....

It's from Motley Crue's 'Looks That Kill'

lol its also from ACDC's "Shook me All Night Long".

i dunno this song isnt doing much for me, its not even close to Slither, which was an awesome choice for first single last time around and is still one of their best rock songs in my opinion.

this song just seems so simple, basic, or dare i say predictable. i dunno, i guess i should reserve my judgement until we hear a studio version. but i was just expecting more from them for this new album. i hope the rest of the record is better.

i guess the best way to put is, slither made me go "wow", this song makes me go, "meh".

slither really impressed me when i first heard it and was so good that i ended up seeing them live on the club tour before the record even came out, thats how much i like that song.

this new song just doesn't have the same impact on me, and probably on possible new fans who are just hearing it and deciding whether to buy the album or not.

No it isn't, She mine is a different song...

Hey guys i was wondering if anybody saw the new Victoria Secret commerical that features Slither!?!?!? I never heard of them doing this but i saw it this morning on MTV. just letting people know..i tried to find it on youtube but couldn't.

Since you're slow to understand.

Great songs don't need computer blips and beeps. They're just great to start with. Somebody like Dylan has managed to write some.

As you can see, once again GN'R was brought into the conversation by one of your own VR supporters.

You guys are amusing.






/jarmo

I cant think of one bon jovi song that has that lyric. U find it, I will stand corrected and apologize.


Anyhow, What I have heard from the live versions, I think I like the Contraband songs better. Of course these are live recordings and not very good quality, so hopefully once the album comes out, I will like them more.

This is the worst of the three new songs played live. I heard them all in my pc, and I heard ''Let It Roll'' and ''She Builds Quick Machine'' last sunday at the River Plate Stadium.

They are not ''bad'', that's not the word... they are BORING, more of the same shit. Weiland, as usual, cant sing anything besides his tracks from STP (which ROCKED, especially ''Sex Type Thing'', the best song of the concert BY FAR)

VR started the sunday's show at River with this:

01) Do It For The Kids (with sound problems everywhere, and an almost unhearable bass)
02) New Song, in a huge rock festival with several band, and several kinds of crowds, of people with different musical tastes. C'mon man! Make the crowd explode! Provoke frenzy! We paid a very big amount of money for this, make us rock! But no, they open the show with a mediocre songs that no one knew, and they continued the show promoting their next album...

How do you want to ''evolve'' like this?

It must have been very hard to Weiland the night at River. It was SO obvious that 55.000 people were not looking at him while he was singing. This is the first time in my life that the whole crowd applaud NOT a song, NOT a band, but a single musician of a band. All the River Plate stadium applauded Slash while he was doing his solos, and when they ended, again, more time of boredom.

thats exactly what i was thinking, these songs are just more of the same. where's the evolution? every single Stone Temple Pilots record sounds completely different. same with appetite and illusion obviously. why isnt this band taking more chances with their sound? the rest of the songs better be different.

call me crazy, i'm must speculating so dont bash me, but maybe there is some truth to what axl said about slash not wanting to try different things and evolve, and giving axl hell when axl wanted to record NR and estranged. there were tons of rumors about tension between scott and slash during the making of this record, maybe scott wanted to try  new things and experiment more and slash refused? don't get me wrong, i love slash and scott, i've seen this band live, but when u hear new songs like this it just makes u wonder.

^
Listen to Estranged and NR though.

Slash takes those songs to legendary levels, levels that no other guitarist in my opinion could take them.

So he may be slow to change but once he does, he is one of the greatest.


Its hard to judge live versions.

I personally am not a huge "Better" live version fan but the demo we got kicks ass.

Same with There Was a Time. Imagine if the only version u heard was that horrible live version they did *cant remember if it was Hammersmith or a UK festival*


So u don't get a fair representation till u hear the album version.

agreed. he did take those songs to legendary levels, there is no denying that. knowing slash's potential full well, these new songs just scare me. thats what makes me think of axl's comments.

and u are correct about the live versions, i'll wait to make my final judgements until we hear the studio versions.

Ok, TWAT was played live twice, and none of them was near to be flawless. But you can notice inmediatly that the song is a huge epic, a very very complex song in all aspects, and everyone knew that GNR was playing the song for the first time.

Another case is when you SUCK on a new song that is a piece of shit. And GNR didnt play TWAT in the second song of the Rock Am Ring/Download/Roskilde shows... do you notice the difference? GNR played the track for the first time in a very small venue full of hardcore fans, and then in Madrid, in the middle of the setlist after several huge classics...

GNR fans are DESPERATE to have songs like TWAT in the setlist more often. Do you know VR fans being desperate for ''She Builds Quick Machine''?

Whehehe, Jarmo Jarmo Jarmo. If someone is amusing it has to be you. You are like a cult member, too blind to see it.

Hey man, whatever makes you sleep at night. Draging Dylan into this conversation is as relevant as dragging GnR into. Irrelevant. But hey, it's your "matey" who started it.

Sigh... I gave it a shot, i really did. :-\
At first i thought it was vertigo by U2.
Then scott came out with his axl hat.
And it sucked as much as the title.

Wrong! It was Eazy E who implied it.

Too blind to see that you guys are ruining your little Scott Weiland sanctuary?

Instead of discussing the new songs, you guys want to discuss Axl......  :hihi:


Yeah, like it makes the VR songs better.

Somebody says "this song isn't special. I feel let down".

So you'll say "at least it's not like GN'R!"

Great thinking......


I guess VR will "rock" as long as it's got nothing to do with Axl.





/jarmo

Completely agree with you, excellent post (well maybe except the bit about promoting their new material - they should be)

I would never say they were bad, they are a straight up rock n roll band. Just I and obviously many others find it a bit boring. Will reserve further judgement until I hear the album version but at first listen there is no evolution as you pointed out.

When I listen to Contraband, I can't help but think I have heard it before somewhere. Fine if that is what you want - I guess a lot of people do. What do others think? Agree - feel free to post a brilliant defence of their music (pref without slagging me off)

Maybe I am missing the point

-Greg

Who cares the fuck evolution?, man, Velvet Revolver is a band of rock n' roll, pure Hard Rock. This song is incredible alive, good riff and it has a great slash' solo.

I you want evolution listen to New guns n' roses, that you will find computer blips, sound tecno, industrial or pop music triyng sound to Rock. there you are the damn evolution

Slither is better than TWAT for me, Why?, bacause I prefer the Rock classic sound, TWAT is boring, too Monotonous, the same base (too pop) and the solos guitars do not convince me, is my opinion.

Anyway whatever is boring for you, is nice to me. It is only a things of tastes...

I prefer Rock classic, so I listen Velvet Revolver, AC/DC, Judas, Megadeth, etc...

If you prefer "Evolution", then listen New guns n' roses or Madonna and her punchi-punchi-punchi-punchi...........

yeah yeah yeah, the same old argument as always.

You know what, a ''darkie soft pop band'' like Evanescence ROCKED the River Plate stadium a lot more than VR did. Matt Sorum seemed like a noob against Evanescence drummer, and the Evanescence instrumental section made zero mistakes in all their show (we, in argentina, are still trying to figure what the hell VR was trying to play in the opener song, which is listed on the reviews as ''Do It For The Kids''  ??? ??? )

Enough of that ''hard rock, uh uh, cocaine, rock and roll, dude fuckin' fuckin' fuckin'' argument. I want my ears to notice that. And at the River Plate stadium, 3 of the 5 bands (Ratones, Evanescence and OBVIOUSLY Aerosmith) rocked very much harder than VR.

At least, Evanescence drummer knows how to hit his drums in the Evanescence classics (listen to Matt Sorum's intro to Mr Brownstone for more information)

This is why I find funny when some people bashes Brain or Frank when they play Brownstone...

----------------------

Do you know what evolution is? Lets put some examples.

* Slash started playing in small clubs or bars > 1987 releases AFD > 1988 opens for Kiss at the Donington Festival > 1989 opens for the Stones > 1992 plays with Joe Elliot and Queen at the FMTC > 1993 Slash is the maximum guitar rock icon of the world.

* Slash auditioned for Poison > Slash enters GNR > Slash does songs like Jungle, ISE, PC > Slash does songs like November Rain, Estranged, Coma.

Slash evolved until the GNR rupture in 1996.

Now:

* Slash started playing in small clubs or bars > 1987 releases AFD > 1988 opens for Kiss at the Donington Festival > 1989 opens for the Stones > 1992 plays with Joe Elliot and Queen at the FMTC > 1993 Slash is the maximum guitar rock icon of the world. > Snakepit > VR > Cypress Hill > Paulina Rubio > ''She Builds Quick Machine''

* Slash auditioned for Poison > Slash enters GNR > Slash does songs like Jungle, ISE, PC > Slash does songs like November Rain, Estranged, Coma > Aint Life Grand > Its 5' O clock Somewhere > Contraband > Paulina Rubio > ''She Builds Quick Machine''

You see? I'm not talkin ONLY about musical directions. It's quite obvious that Slash involved. But he STILL has ''that'', he is still a monster onstage, that's why I want him to quit that mediocre band to be again the same than before. He has to quit VR before being too late. Weiland (and VR) is ruining all his reputation. I love him, that's why I think he needs to quit VR urgently.

When Slash says that he would accept a GNR reunion ''for a few shows'' he's implicitly agreeing with what I'm saying. I think he knows he's losing his time with VR, but he cant do anything about it.

evolution is always important. whats the point if u keep churning out the same album over and over? its boring for both the fans and musicians

Evolution in music is only an option, if you want take it, Velvet Revolver prefer take the same formula and I am glad for that attitude...

Velvet Revolver will keeping rockin', no doubt about it.

is there such a thing?  :rofl:

and how can one respect your opinion when you are clearly a Evanascence fan :hihi:

nobody forced you to buy that VR Concert Ticket if you didnt like it (isnt that the argument we use in the other section?) and if we are gonna go soley on concert reviews then GnR isnt doing so shit hot either....at least Slash didnt get beat up by a clothing designer that uses child slave labour :hihi: (ooooh low blow)

I love how AC/DC made the same album over and over!  They rocked every time!

That would be an interesting question if it was made by ANY BAND FAN, but not from a VR fan dude...

The whole stadium sang along with ''Bring Me To Life'', ''Going Under'', ''Lithium'', and ''My Immortal'' was something u-n-b-e-l-i-e-v-a-b-l-e. At least, in Evanescence, you can notice inmediatly what song is a hit and what song isnt. What are the VR hits? Brownstone? Sex Type Thing? Crackerman? Wish You Were Here? Dont suggest me that VR has ''classics'' or ''huge hits'' because I will have to laugh my fucking ass off ...


Im not an Evanescence fan, but I have to admit (with all the pain that causes it to me) that Evanescence rocked harder and had a better reception from the crowd than VR. You know what is funny? That a female singer, fat like a fucking pig, dressed with a scotch skirt knew how to interact with 60.000 people that the non-existent VR frontman.


What a strong music-related argument man... try again when you have coins to insert  :hihi:

2 year old songs aren't classics....no matter what kinda fan i am. hows that for music related :P

and why the fuck are we comparing VR to Evanescence anyway?

if you dont like VR thats cool, but some of us in this section do...so it'd be cool if you didnt try to bash them all the time....some people do like them ya know ;) :peace:

I like it a lot

I guess he mentioned them because they played the same stage at the same festival?




Woohoo! Yet another GN'R and Axl mention in the VR section. Way to go!




/jarmo

you're welcome ;D

Says the guy who just posted this one thread over:


 :hihi:

... and because it is extremely painful for a Guns N' Roses fan to see an almost new band, leaded by a female singer (nothing against them, but there are not many cases of female singers that rock that way), to interact with the masses much more and with lots of more charisma than the frontman of the band where Slash (yes, the mythical guitar hero) is.

...and Evanescence didnt play ''We Will Rock You'' or ''Rocking In The Free World'' type of songs to captivate the crowd after an hour of boredom...

It's more painful for a Guns n' roses fan see to Axl Rose beside a group of strangers playing the real Guns n' Roses songs.

oh my god. slash left ten years ago.......get over it.?

still, doesnt hurt to want him to get back in, seeing as the band havent actually released any real music since his leave.

end of days soundtrack oh my god doesnt count, cause that song aint gnr, in any form or way.

What's that got to do with anything? I asked him if he wasn't feeling disappointed to have to wait all this time for the new album.

A band who are updating their fans didn't know when the album was coming out until the record company gave the date..... Imagine that.





/jarmo

I am a huge VR fan but if u listen to Madagascar and then listen to Let It Roll and SHe builds quick machines the quality is lopsided in favor of Madagascar.

Scott talks shit cause he knows he is a B level Frontman and that will never change.


Slash is my fav guitar player ever but I am begrudgingly accepting the fact that Axl had a lot to do with pushing Slash to create the classic riffs and solos he did with GNR. Cause if any of u consider any of these riffs on the new songs to be classic then u have lost touch with what Classic is.

exactly, thats what i was getting at earlier in the thread. although if u look at all the STP records they are very very diverse, so maybe all those rumors about tension between slash and scott were true, maybe scott wanted to experiment more and slash didnt want to,? who knows.

or u can argue that the DeLeo's were more responsible than scott in terms of the direction of the music in STP. *shrugs*

i dont want this to turn into an axl vs. slash or scott vs. axl argument, i'm just speculating here, dont bash me.

WTF....it's the record company who decides the release date and they obviously announced it straight away, as soon as the decision was made and as soon as the band were told. Why does it matter whether the record company or band who announces the date, as long as they do it immediately?

VR fans having been notified of each potential release date and change in the date along the way. About a week ago, Scott was saying the end of May, so quite clearly this July 3 release date was decided quite recently, so the fans were immediately informed.

The band probably wanted to announce it themselves on the S.A. tour (as Scott did with the late May date), but they don't have any more gigs till 3rd of May, so they clearly decided to keep the fans updated immediately.

Why do you find it so hard to give VR credit where credits due, I mean complaining because the record company announced the album release date instead of the band?? :no:

Just that it doesn't always matter what the band says, it's not always just up to them.

It goes for most bands who are signed to a major label.



/jarmo

 ? Talk about hitting the nail on the head. D - nice job here, man.

I love VR too, but I don't know how anyone can listen to Madagascar and not think it's musically ahead of anything on Contraband, or these newer VR tunes. VR is definitely about old-fashioned rock n roll - and I love them for that - ?but the direction Axl's music seems to be headed is something on a quite different level - something that has not really been done before - ?I respect them both

I agree on the Slash statement, but would argue that the Slither riff is downright killer, and his solos on Slither & You got no right are up there with some of his best.

Fair enough, I think you're implying something and for the record, I agree : ok: Having said that, I just read the press release again, I think it was Duff who announced the release date.

Actually, while She Builds Quick Machines sounds very average to me, I thought the opening riff and the music throughout Let It Roll (including the great Slash solo) sounds great. The weak point is the vocals/lyrics.
I could really picture Axl singing some great stuff over the Let It Roll music and that would kick ass! : ok:

Not to get too far off topic - but someone mentioned earlier that maybe the DeLeo bros were responsible for STP's best stuff - I really don't think so.
I thought Weiland's solo album was very cool - great melodies on there, and I thought the Army of Anyone album was about as boring and un-eventful an album as I've heard in awhile -

i just suggested it, and i agree with u that scotts solo album was good. i liked AoA tho.

i guess we should all just wait till the studio version of this song before dissing it.

its just that, i am obviously a huge GNR fan, i also love STP, but Velvet Revolver really dissapointed me with Contraband. Based on these band members pasts, i believe they could/can do alot better. so i have high hopes for this new record.

It's got to do with indirectly bringing GN'R into the conversation... I never mentioned the band, I just said the "trippy middle section" didn't have computer blips and bleeps.   : ok:

Except the bands updates have informed us that the albums finished and ready for release, and the time between updates and the final release date has been very short.  The parallel youre trying to make didnt work in 2004 when that album had a few very brief delays, and it doesnt work now three years later with VRs second album.

Get back on topic kids, save the GNR talk for the GNR section.

Thanks

i think estanbanf just likes to bash velvet revolver every chance he gets and suck up to wats that band ohhh the new guns n roses who havent even released an album yet . im a big fan of both bands but u gota realise these are 2 different bands and stylistic directions ones hard rock and the other is a mixture of rock/piano experimental who like to play old guns and roses songs. the new guns n roses is pretty much axl and a bunch of musos with no chemistry so estanbanf u can bitch all u want u just look like an idiot trying to justify guns n roses all the time

I guess you didn't hear me.


You get a break cause it's your first post, get in the game Maverick.

hehe sorry just had to get that out, she builds quick machines rocks is that better haha :P

Did Falcon just tell Jarmo to keep the GNR talk in the GNR section? :hihi: :hihi:

Let It Roll should be the first single - such an awesome song. Really, everything a great rock song should be.

haha maybe Falcon should give a - karma to Jarmo for not listening  :hihi:

I agree, Let It Roll seems like a better choice than this song.

i agree as well. but if it isn't the first single then im sure ill most likely be the 2nd single

well we have only heard four songs so there are probaly better songs then let it roll on there

Classic means it stands the test of time and will be remembered by all 50 years from now.


Snakepit stuff IS NOT Classic.

exactly.  WTTJ = classic, Paradise City = classic.   No Snakepit or VR song is a classic, and the only one with that kind of potential MAYBE is Slither, but we'll know the answer to that in a few years.

Thanks for the laugh.

nah... not good enough...

Please  :confused:, STOP FROM MAKIN' STUPID THEORIES ABOUT WHICH  (VR OR AXL) SONGS ARE BETTER OR WHICH ONES ARE GOIN' TO BE CLASSICS IN THE NEXT YEARS. They're only your fuckin' point of view  :yes:. Please enjoy the music

On the other hand, I don't know if this songs is gonna do so good as Slither did, the only thing that I know it's the more I hear it the more I like it. At first Iit didn' impress me very much but now It's really growin' on me quickly. I think it's a really powerfull and amazin' Rock Song. On the billboard interview Duff describes it really good, It has a great riff, a great chorus, an amazin' mid-part and an amazin' Slash's solo.

See this is what I dont get, why the fuck do people even worry about if a song is a classic or not...

Can't you just take the songs for what they are, good decent rock songs...

A song doesn't have to be a classic to like it you know...

im just glad im hearin sum kick ass rock n roll instead of gay ass punk pop and rap/hiphop that seems to be on radio most of the time

^ I agree. Can you imagine the millions  of rock songs that have been released, and only a very very small percentage are considered classics.

Hey, we have new music from VR, they will tour, and it is great seeing Slash live again. Life is good and we should be glad.

Where did I say it had to be classic to be loved?

Slash is right up there with Axl for me, I like them almost equally, So I am not a Slash basher, I am simply pointing out that in GNR Slash wrote 5 or 6 of the greatest riffs and solos in music history, Riffs and Solos that will be heard 100 years from now.
Since leaving GNR he hasnt.

Still good songs,riffs, and solos. He still is way better than all 3 New GNR guitarists combined, but he doesn't seem as motivated to write greatest of all time stuff anymore. He is happy with good.

What the hell did you not understand about this?

Did  I miss something?


I was talking about Slash who last I checked was in Velvet Revolver and I am in the VR section right.....................


Am I no longer allowed to talk about Slash now?

Falcon u need a hug or a woman or something. Chill out its a fuckin message board, stop taking this shit so seriously. : ok:

Falcon, we can't talk about Slash in Gn'R-section. So please, sshhh::)

I know you're not a Slash basher, I got the feeling from your post that you were trying to say that all that slash has written after guns was...well weak material.

Talk about Slash all ya want, but when you throw out comparisons such as below the inevitable horseshit will ensue.? Plenty of that dicussion in the Dead Horse section.





D, I've scene your myspace, you maybe should take your own advice.


 

No name calling please, strictly against board rules. :yes:

No back on topic...

Hopefully the song will have a different vibe on a studio release, pretty rough in a live mix..

U started this shit, I finished it.

I am sick of the bullshit on this forum.

I agree with Jarmo's stance on GNR and the bootlegs but God Damn it if I want to talk about Slash and his guitar playing. I am going to fucking talk about Slash and his God Damned guitar playing without some MOD trying to shut down every conversation we have out of fear of some E-Riot or something dumb like that.

I agree, I won't write it off as mediocre until I hear the studio version.

A classic to me is not a song that will ?be remembered some years or decades from now, Some really stupid songs and artists (for ex. Vanilla Ice)get to top billboard and will be remembered as the music we listened in 80's, 90's, One thing is the fame and other is the quality of a song. In the music industry there are very few artist that get that due to their talent

^
yeah but people like Vanilla Ice are remembered for Gimmicky reasons and not the quality of song.

No one will say 40 years from now that Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby" was an all time legendary rap songs.


Slash's riffs and solos will live on forever.

I am not bashing Slash at all cause I feel he is still talented and great enough to come up with brilliant pieces of music, its just the bands he has been in kind of hold him back and don't really push him to totally achieve his potential.

Snakepit wasnt a commercial band, VR are more Modern rock type so he really doesn't get the free space to roam and create like he could.

I think Contraband is a great album but to me Slash settled for good instead of really pushing himself and tryin to achieve Great. That isnt saying Contraband sucks or the songs arent good. Its just We all know what Slash can do and to hear anything less than what we know he can do is sometimes a letdown.

I have high expectations for Axl, for Slash for Prince for the Chili Peppers, for Bon Jovi and for every band I love. I call them out when I feel they arent giving their all.

I did so on Prince, I have on Bon Jovi and I will with Axl,Slash and whomever else I feel arent giving their all. Criticism by me doesnt mean I am no longer a fan or that I am a hater.

If Axl used the lyric "keeps her motor Clean" id still feel it was a dumb Cliched unoriginal lyric.

Actually, you did.



Again wrong.

Personal back and forth is better suited for PM's.

Now it's finished.

Same here, that will be the final analysis. ?

I do get concerned that some of the posters who saw VR live thought these songs were boring......... Its one thing hearing a song on a shitty boot but usually even bad songs are pretty decent live.

so the fact that some concert goers hate this makes me a tad nervous.


I wish Scott would change the dumb ass "Keeps her Motor Clean" Lyric. He can do better than that.

She was a fast machine
she kept her motor clean
she was the best damn woman
that I'd ever seen

   you shook me all night long man..Scott ripped off Brian :hihi:

If you read previous posts about their feelings on VR it might not suprise you as much

Don't know what it is but the song  doesn't do anything for me. just way to bland sounding.

^
true, I didnt take that into account.

the liveboots I heard though, I didnt like at all but that could be due to the sound quality.

 :rofl:

Exactly what I was gonna post.

She builds quick machines
She keeps her motor clean
She is the best damn woman
That I've ever seen!

... :D

From what I saw on the webcast this is going to be a killer song. Slash sounds like his solos fit more in sync with the music on the new stuff. I always thought his solos sounded pasted in on contraband.

Listened to the webcast thing a few more time. and the song is growing on me. the studio version should be killer.

At first I wasnt digging the song too much but after a couple listens I'm starting to really like it and especially the killer Slash solo.

Me too, i have it on my ipod and listen to it a ton!  It is killer now.

It's one of those songs that grows on you...Can't wait to hear the album .

Appartenty the song is going to be handed over to Radio stations May 21. I got it form this site http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16697 which seems pretty reliable.

Eh, so far what I've heard of this album is just okay. I might just download it when it comes out. And as for all the arguments in this thread (judging by page 2), I'm not getting into them.

At first i liked let it roll and get out the door as a single but after a few listens this 1 is really growing on me.. : ok:

It's not the best song I ever heard, but it definetly has potential, it was catchy, I enjoyed the flow of the band instrumentaly, and I really like weiland's voice..

Having heard the maddy demo compared to the live boots, who knows how different this song can sound ion the record.. I like it.. Weiland's voice fits the song fine..

this ones probably the best out of the lot, musically.

i'm gonna be honest, it has grown on me. i still feel like the riff is lackluster coming from someone of slash's caliber but oh well. also, weiland's lyrics could be better, sometimes i feel like hes run out of things to sing about since STP's Shangri La De Da. can't wait for a studio version.

Does anyone have the lyrics? 
Here's my try...
Hold fast in love
Punch drunk, let it roll
Eyes cold as the snow
She built a quick dream
She used to keep her motor clean
...between the sheets?
She always quick to fight
We're breakin' thru tonight

I feel it when you push straight down
I can feel it when you stood their ground
Roll over right
Keep it though the night
Right
Right
Keep it though the night
Right in my sight
Keep it though the night
I?ll smash right though your spotlight

She ran away to Texas
To keep away the assholes
Old exit man just don't back taxes
She?s grown through inheritance
To dance across America
After the old man said she?s so far from home??

What you give is what you take
What you bleed is what you break
I?ll bleed...
for you
I?d steal...
for you
I?d take...

I'll wait till the album comes out to pass judgement, but I just hate this song. The chorus is terrible. Am I the only one who has mental images of a bunch of cheerleaders doing the cha-cha and singing "Keep it through the night, Keep it through the night"?  :hihi:

at first i thought this song wasnt that great but it has grown on me, i still dont think its as powerful as slither tho.

They will hard pressed to match "Slither", that tune is still a monster. 

I've listened to it a handful, it's still just "meh" to me... I still prefer all the other songs we've heard so far.

In my case, the image of Gwen Stefani singing "Keep it through the night, Keep it through the night" surrounded by her japanese female friends came almost inmediatly  :peace:

I think "she builds quick machine" is a great song, live is kind of boring up to now, i think the studio version will be great. However, i don't think that "sbqm" has to be the first single.

Wasn't too fond of it at first but I can't stop humming it now. Great song.

VELVET REVOLVER's new single, "She Builds Quick Machines", is scheduled to go for radio adds May 21-22. The song is one of the four new tracks the group has been playing of late during shows in South America.

Source: Blabbermouth.net

Well i did not enjot listening to that it sounded awful there was no energy to it, but its live they have not played it much and other bands do get better as they get into thier touring (ahem) in act the only goo bit was slashs solo towards the end but even that wasnt mind blowing

seems like evberyone is quick to bash..  I guess some wanted the new wheel. .. I can enjoy this song on a boot.. I bet studio it's really good and catchy

Remember when we first heard the "Slither" boot and were mortified when we heard it was gonna be the first single?

Things turned out great and Slither ended up being awesome.

So hopefully the CD version will be great.

Right now though, this is not better than any song on CB in my opinion.

Slither rips the new songs to shreds and stomps on their remains.

But studio versions will decide ultimately... but still...  ;D

I thought I read somewhere where the single is being released today (15th).  Has anyone heard when it will be online?  Do singles usually go on radio the same day they are released?  I remember getting Slither from some Portugese site/radio show or something.  Man these past three years have flown by. 

should be available some time today or tomorrow for "digital download", released to radio stations net week.

edit: download it on the 16th here http://www.fmqbproductions.com/epks/2007/velvetrevolver/web.html

VELVET REVOLVER's new single, "She Builds Quick Machines", is available for streaming in its entirety at AOL Music. The song comes off VELVET REVOLVER's second RCA album, "Libertad" (artwork), due on July 3. More audio samples from the CD are available at this location.

http://music.aol.com/franchise/firstlisten/velvet-revolver-new-songs

This song lacks the balls of Slither.  It sounds like they are going through the motions really, the only part that stands out is Slash's solo.  The rest of the song is pretty average, from the riff to the lyrics/chorus to the vocals