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Anyone knows the "ca number" of how many records GnR has sold?
How much have appetite sold worldwide alone?

Do you think theyr discografi will have sold over 100 millions a couple of years after Chinese Democracy?

That is a very high number.. for a band that with 7 album releases.. (with CD and GH)

A very HUGE shitload of album sales dude.  :yes:  :rofl:

Don't know the exact number though but, it's a lot.  :beer:  :smoking:

AFD: 40+
UYI: 35+ (combined)
Lies: 10
GH: 7+
Live Era: 2+
Spaghetti: 7+

Yes, I believe that's possible. I think I've read somewhere that GN'R have sold close to 80 million albums or so. Assuming there will be more GHs and compilations coming along, they should make that target easily.


Do you have a source for that? I don't think UYIs have sold 35 mil. It's more close to 18 mil combined.

The UYI albums have been certified to have sold 7 million each in the USA. The last certification was done in 1997.

I wouldn't be surprised if they've sold more than 18 million in the USA alone.....



/jarmo

RIAAs numbers:

AFD: 15
UYI: 14
Lies: 5
GH: 4
Live Era: 1.5
Spaghetti: 3

Multiply that with a little over 2 and you get the worldwide sales, then adjust a little since the list hasn't been updated for 10 years.

IN THE US: Hmm, i belive appetite had sold 15 mill. in 1999. thats 8 years ago.. and im pretty sure its more like 20 mill today.

one more question. Is Appetite still the most selling debut album in the world?

I agree....I think some people would be surprised just how well the Illusions sold. ?I know I was a few years ago when I looked at the numbers. I use the illusion numbers along with the world tour when talking about when GNR was at their "peak"....which I think was the 91-93 period....I know some will think the 87-89 period....

fun discussion to have....since both periods GNR was the biggest band in the world.

Nobody ever gets this right-in the US, according to RIAA (I just looked!), GNR has shipped/approx sold 38.5 million records.
afd-15, uyi1-7, uyi2-7, lies-5, spag-1, GH-3, Live-500,000 ?FACT FACT FACT!

that is a fairly accurate number for actual albums sold in the US....WORLWIDE IS VERY HARD TO DETERMINE- probably anywhere from 80-90 million as of now.

That list can't be entirely trusted since it's updated so rarely. I've read articles where all the albums have larger sales. Even though GN'R was on the decline in 93 they were still big enough to shift more than 1 million copies of a new album.

Either way it lands at about 100 million records worldwide, and that's pretty good for just 3 'real' albums.

You have read articles but you have no recording industry source : ok: That list is accurate as it is going to get until Geffen asks for a new certification of AFD and GH. I highly doubt the others will change.

In the world probaly... Which is good...

But, thanks to recent dumbass music fans here in the US its currently 3rd  :rant:

But one it gets updated I doubt those other 3 will stick around!

i'm sure they sold in the rest of the world same number as in usa (especially think on japan,europe,south america)

They have sold more in the rest of the world...roughly 38-40 million US actual sales and anywhere from 40-60 million worlwide. It is not an exact science but Geffen should have an idea of what they have shipped worldwide.

I don get it

afd    15 million
uyi1   7 million

in 1991 gnr were the biggest band in the world,in 1987 they were new band

This is stupid! Why does it take so long for Geffen to update this crap?!

Appetite was/is a phenomenon. Everybody "had" to buy it. It has made the numbers over the years.

I heard somewhere that the number is around 92 millions around the world. I believe it was pretty accurate like 3 or 4 years ago (when the numbers werent fully updated). South America, Japan, Europe... they sold a lot there for sure.
thats pretty good, a rock band sold something close to 100 millions of albums with '3' real albums - AFD, UYI and Lies. thats really awesome.
just think on that... bon jovi is a pop/pop rock group and they sold around 100 millions. they've got around 13 records out if i'm not wrong (source: bon jovi community, lol).

every 'new' fan who bought UYI also bought AFD afterwards i guess. 7 million is approx. 1/2 of 15 million.
okay just my guess.

Plus there were 2 albums to buy.. Twice the money..

Also Appetite made them the hottest band in 91.....

I could be mistaken, but I believe at least in the US, 50 Cent broke Gn'R's record with his debut album "Get Rich or Die Tryin'" a few years back.

Yeah dude, I doubt 50 Cent can move 15 million albums. 

And this is in the post-Napster era.

Dude, love him or hate him, 50 Cent's debut album was a MASSIVE success.

I think he sold well over a million copies the first week that album was out.

http://www.riaa.com/news/newsletter/050305.asp

6 million to this day.

4 million for The Massacre.

Get Rich or Die Trying sold between 6 million and 8 million copies, which is not more than AFD.

My mistake, but I do recall that record being promoted as having cracked Appetite's sales record in the US shortly after it came out :P

might be for the time out compaired with the same time apitite was out, not in total sales to date?

Debut Albums currently ahead of GNR(US only!!)

HOOTIE & THE BLOWFISH
CRACKED REAR VIEW
16 Million

ALANIS MORISSETTE
JAGGED LITTLE PILL
16 Million

Neither of these albums, will sell like appetite when they are 20 years old... Once appetite is updated I'm guessing these will have gone up 1 mil at best... Appetite 4-7 mil easily...


 

probably correct...I think Geffen is waiting for the 20th anniversary of AFD to recertify it. Seriously, it would be a great PR move to schedule the release date of Chinese Democracy around the 20th anniversary of AFD. Recertify AFD- it is probably around 17 million or so in the us, maybe more. Then, remaster and release AFD with bonus tracks. It would get a lot of press. Couple that with Velvet Revolver's release in July and you would have quite a GNR mega party! Velvet, Chinese, and remastered AFD in the same month-THE PERFECT STORM for GNR fans worldwide. It makes to much sense so it won't happen.  : ok:

dont forget that AFD is still selling like nuts, believe it or not.

I recall it selling something like 35 000 copies each week world wide. Even if its down to 20 000 units, imagine what an asset for its record company.  :o It is a classic, even legendary rock 'n roll recording, and it still sounds good today, a merit that many recordings from the same time period dont carry...

yeah, alanis and hootie's debuts were pretty famous in the mid 90's for selling more than appetite in the US.
But gn'r, in late 80's and early 90's were such a strong band, undoubtly the biggest band in the world. if you just look at Brazil, there's a market just as big as the US. i mean, any guy can sell some millions over there. Gn'R were so big in South America that i really believe they sold a shitload of records over there, even more than in Europe - even if the buying power in south america isn't too famous, they had local pressings and sold records cheaper than they would if they were importing cd's.

for a rock album, I believe so

I remember Matt saying in a VH1 retrospective show about gnr that Axl's goal with the Illusion albums was to sell 35 million copies world-wide. I don't know why, but it always stood out as a memorable quote to me. He was talking about how the illusions tour just kept going on for years and he said something like, "Axl wanted to push the album sales over 35 million world-wide, and we were sitting at about 33 million and we were all pretty beat, and we started looking around at each other and thinking, this thing has got to stop." That quote always kind of stood out to me just for the fact that it showed how the band was on a mission on that tour and really pushed themselves to the max.

Unrelated to album sales, but another quote from that show about the illusion tour that I always remembered was I think Slash said that no one wanted the illusion tour to end just because they all knew in the back of their minds that once the tour ended it would pretty much be the end of the band.  He even said how Axl dropped him off at his house after flying home from the last show of the tour and said, "well, that's that." And Slash said that he remembered thinking, "well, now what?"

never hear that b4; interesting shit heh................... :-[

which show was this? i don't think i've seen that one!!!

pretty close last i checked it was 350K last year, so about 20K a month, but still, pretty great!!!

Sorry to bring this thread back up from the dead, but apparently AFD is the second most sold debut album after Boston's self titled debut.

Yeah dude, especially since Scholz remastered and re-released the album.  I say it's pretty close between these two classic albums.

Dude you arent even a real fan! Go back to the Boston forums with Boris.

PIZz0WNED!1  :hihi:

For anyone wondering why AFD sold 15 million to UYI 7 million, you have to remember that in 1987 Records and Cassettes were all the rage and people bought their First AFD on that format, then in 1991 when the UYI were coming out CD's were popular along with cassettes, so someone who updated to a cd to get the new UYI albums in 1991 would also have to update and by a second AFD album helping crank up and raise their numbers.

In that just the US???

If so it would be fourth... Boston, Alanis, Hootie....

Again like I said before, once they update it AFD will surpass 2 or even all 3 of those!!

Yes, in the U.S. I don't think "Jagged Little Pill" and "Cracked Rear View" have outsold AFD, although both are certified 16x platinum. According to Soundscan, JLP has sold upto 30 million worldwide as of 2006. AFD surely has sold more. Probably same with Hootie.

Exactly.. I just wish they'd update AFD.. Its been way to long