Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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I will try a little translation. I'll try my best, because english is not my mother language. I hope you understand it:

The northamerican band played yesterday at the National Stadium's Pista Atletica

Velvet Revolver was saved by covers

It's a habit for Scott Weiland, everytime he's onstage, the cadaverous singer of Velvet Revolver and former Stone Temple Pilot frontman, to suffer from verbal incontinence: he insulted the crowd with reiterated ''motherfucker'' and ''fuck you''. Yesterday, in front of 9.000 people, was not the exception and Weiland repeated the script.

Velvet Revolver's performance in Chile had two faces: the songs from their debut album ''Contraband'' were a rocker mirage. Without strong hits, the band (that has 3 former GN'R members) spilt dodger melodies, incapable of provoking a spell in the crowd.

However, the band could satisfy the crowd when they took some aces from the sleeve: covers from their previous bands, and other bands classics like Pink Floyd's ''Wish you Were Here''.

Beyond the experience of seeing rock legends like Slash and Weiland performing rock and roll classics like ''Its So Easy'', ''Mr Brownstone'', ''Used To Love Her'', ''Sex Type thing'' and ''Crackerman'', the band left an evident smell of caricature.

Without exceptions, every member of Velvet Revolver tries to appropriate the sacred fire of their best past moments, but they only end like bad copies of themselves.

Between the instrumental pirouettes of Slash's guitar and Weiland's not hided love for Robert Plant, the quintet proved that, sometimes, rock and roll can be merciless. The pass of the years is not always a synonym of worthy ageing, and that performing old classics is the only way to keep touring around the world.

told ya they should drop the GNR songs.    the material is strong enough from contraband to do a show without it!  oh wait, its not.  But surely between Libertad and Contraband there is enough good stuff there?  you'd think?

So whats your point? They just shouldn't tour until they make an album you like?  :hihi:

Maybe you should tell the band instead, because I'm sure that your opinion would be just so important to them. 

If the guys that wrote Its So Easy want to play it then why shouldnt they? You have no right to tell them what to do.

Don't worry, that newspaper sucks, have no idea about music and arts, its style is not serius.

I was there, and the show was very well and people was satisfied and happy

Or maybe they should work another 15 years on it to make it as good  ::) as the demo's we have heard so far from this band that used to rock.

If you dislike VR that much why do you come here this often (VR part that is)? Do you also go to gay bars and complain about all the faggots you see?

Well it?s the first show... pretty normal review for one... although I laughed my ass off when I read this: "he insulted the crowd with reiterated ''motherfucker'' and ''fuck you''. well ain?t it normal on rock shows hearing words like fuck you and motherfucker loads of times? Lol at least that?s what happens when I go to concerts... oh well.. ::). Anyway there?s no need to worry... this was a warm-up gig... they are settling down things... shows will grow better and better as the tour continues.   ;)
lol and btw... wtf is an instrumental pirouette?  :rofl:

"incapable of provoking a spell in the crowd"

Yeah that's really what I heard on those clips? ::)

Yeah I thought the same thing.  Sounds like this dude has something personal against the band.  The new song sounded cool (what I could hear of it) people should just be glad these guys are touring.  Should read - "legendarios:  Slash, Duff, y Scott."

Velvet Revolver [Taste a (very) little]
Tuesday 10 of April of the 2007
Athletic track of the Nacional Stage
To 21:45 hours the lights of the Athletic Track
Attended: 8.000

were extinguished, which assured that the show was on the verge of beginning. Suddenly, it is heard by the loudspeakers ?From Hollywood, Velvet Revolver? and there, before they were sent with the first agreed ones of one of the 4 new subjects (`Let it Roll') that the quinteto interpreted, the situation me was already made strange. Was not that the way in which Guns N' Roses opened its recitales? Peculiar, to say the minus. To play of entrance with the memory of the band that at its moment commanded Axl Rose did not seem a good idea. Velvet did of hers during the first 25 minutes of presentation, where the Kids followed one another `for Do it', `Superhuman', `Sucker Train Blues', another advance of ?Freedom?, `She Mine', and `Fall to Pieces'. Of certain way, it gave the impression to be seeing a group that is very strong in the present, with a Scott Weiland who surprised by the interesting thing of his performance, doing all possible because the interpretations were to the height of the expectations, helping itself even of a megaphone. Although, without to be foolish, safe with his power-ballad that was a mega?xito anywhere in the world, the attending public (to that height, around 8 thousand people) was not very it jeopardize. Later, the band cut to the rate of its own show when doing 5 followed subjects that they did not belong to the notable ?Contraband? of the 2004. Other 2 samples of ?Freedom? (`Get out the the future first Door' and single, a pair of classic of the Stone Temple Pilots, `Crackerman' and `Sex Type Thing' (where one occurred to the greater feedback between the North Americans and the public); and the chacal `It' s under Easy', of Guns, which caused for the first time that all the public jumped and was touched with the concert. The first part closed with sensational `Seth me Free', the first subject that knew this s?perbanda, that came in the sound track of ?Hulk?. He was peculiar, but in those exact 55 minutes, people better passed it with the memories of STP and Guns that those of the own Velvet. There I create who am an error at the time of arming setlist. I had left the sensation of which they did not validate themselves by themselves, but that saw as a necessity to make use to the classic ones of long ago. First bis was not the exception. The eternal Slash sent with `Wish You Were Here' of Pink Floyd, which obvious made that the public coreara each verse of the subject, just like it happened with another subject of Guns N' Roses, `Used to Love Her'. Quickly the members of the group returned to disappear, without at least taking leave, which was the tonic of the day: no word of Weiland to the public, and except for the Chilean flag that Duff received, noticed little that was in Chile. Scott improvised something that way of ?chilean girl?, but people did not put much attention to him. They enter by third time the scene and `Mr. Brownstone' (yes, also of Guns) returned to leave the broom, to take step finally `Slither', one of the greater successes of Velvet Revolver. Thus the night was closed. With an impeccable sound, with a band that a kilo touches, but with one disagreement sensation is strange. What happened with `Dirty Little Thing', with `Headspace', `Spectacle' or `You Got nonRight'? I believe that the quinteto yes has material like arming, at least, one first part of its presentation with material of first, and own one. Remarkable the new subjects, quite powerful and promising. But the relation with the public was lukewarm, and great part of the responsibility is of the foreign set. Adding and reducing, 6 songs of ?Contraband?, 6 covers and 4 of ?Freedom? in only one hour 20 minutes. Very disparejo, for a grouping that it wants to gain his space by itself. The one that could be a great celebration of the rock & roll, it was only one acceptable presentation of legendary musicians who could offer much more. When arriving at my house, they gave desire me to listen to Guns N' Roses and nonVelvet Revolver. That graphical situation better than nothing to which I talk about.

Juan Ignacio Cornejo K. 

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Tickets Sales: 15.000

Sold Bad religion      : 5.000
Sold Velvet Revolver: 2000
Invitation Generals  : 1000 (Radios, Tv, Newspapers, etc).

Promotor & Productions

http://www.ciechile.cl

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http://www.rockaxis.com/live_reviewxs_ver.php?cPath=231_238&products_id=4224

HBK *

Hey Jim Bob whos that in your avatar?

Just to clear some things, I need to say that the english review is just MY translation of the spanish article. I tried to translate literally, and there are big chances that I made mistakes. I did my best, trust me.

About ''instrumental pirouette'', I don't know, I didnt understand that even in spanish, which is my mother language. But the translation is correct.

I think that whit "an instrumental pirouette" he refers to some Slash's improvisations or something like that. Slash uses to change the way of playing some songs parts on the stage.

Or perhaps he only points the talent of our lovely guitar hero   ;)


My opinion is that these "reviews" should NOT  be taken seriously. The REAL reviews are those which are written by FANS who went to the show, not any cheap newspaper...

Next sunday I will be in River Plate Stadium (Buenos Aires) watching Velvet Revolver...so I only have to wait 3 days to make my own review. I won't be cheated by these "bad milk" (Ja, argentinian joke) lines.


Byee

Hehe, nice analogy you got there: "VR subforum - the gay bar of HTGTH!" :hihi:

lol yeah who knows... but it was something that really made me laugh trying to figure out what the hell it might be.   :hihi:

Thing is man... I disagree.  Contraband is a hard rockin album, with tracks that come across really well live.  So actually, they do have material strong enough.  I still listen to Contraband.  It's a great album.

I have to agree with the part in the second review about having the guy say pretty much the same thing for vr as he did for guns back in the day to open the show. It's just a bad idea to have him say the same stuff he use to say when introducing guns back in the day.

I know this is not the subject of the thread, but I was wondering WHERE do you see ''hard rock'' in ''Contraband''. Personally, the only hard rocking track in that album is ''Slither'', and I cant find any other.

ja ja, your pathetic man, where is the source of that bullshit that you wrote?, , Were you in the Show ?, NO, so dont speaks lies

there were 10.000 / 12.000 people in the show and the majority of the people went to see Velvet Revolver, there were many Velvet Revolver and Guns n' roses t-shirts (no t-shirts about the New merchandising), just a few t-shirts about Bad Reiligion,  Though is a good band, doesn't have many fans in my country (Chile)

I highly doubt that a person who likes the current GNR lineup could pay a ticket for a VR show... incompatible tastes in my opinion.

Your english is good man, I'm surprised!

I want you back in Uzi, I need a big ass to kick  :hihi:

I don't think so, in fact, some members of Velvet Revolver, created the sound classics of Guns n' Roses,  I mean, the real GN'R  :smoking:

dude:
1. you can like vr and gnr
2. the real guns n roses.. is still playing, in a few weeks you can go to southafrica and see them perform
3. the guys that were in GNR and now are in VR are a shame now.. his shows are boring and contraband was mediocre at its best.. you said it "they CREATED" cool things with GNR not anymore

Agreed with points 2 and 3.

But not with point 1. The only reasons I find to hear VR is nostalgia.

Same music, same album, same live shows but with me ignoring that there are former GNR members there, and I would say that they definitly suck. I dont mind who plays guitar in TWAT, for example. The song, the whole concept is a masterpiece itself. That's why I listen to GNR songs, because I dont need to think in the past or in some mythical names to enjoy the music. Who would hear VR if tomorrow Slash and Duff quit? Will anyone listen to a VR without Slash and Duff if Weiland says ''do not worry, the musical direction of the band will be the same. We will keep playing ''Big Machine'' and ''Illegal i Song'' with other two talented nobodies''

That would be the end of VR, because the ''ex GNR members'' is their cornerstone. And all bands should have music in that place.

Are you thick?

Superhuman, Sucker Train Blues, Headspace, Spectacle... want me to keep going.

Source: CIE CHILE

Promoter & Productions.

Bye... Bye...

HBK *

1- I like Velvet Revolver and New Guns n' Roses (I love GUNS N' ROSES, estebanf understands what I mean  :hihi:)

2- For me and the majority of People, the Real Guns n' Roses was lined up for Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven, that band is the relevant, this way I feel it and see it.

3- Will be boring for you, but, for me and miles Chilean rockers think that Velvet Revolver's shows are amazing , and I don't think the 5.000.000 people that bought Contraband around the world are disapointed...

Anyway, New Guns n' Roses and Velvet Revolver are best band in this moment, beside Judas Priest and Iron Maiden... :beer:

That is imposible, cause' if Slash and Duff quit tomorrow, Velvet Revolver would disappear, same case if Axl rose quit and stop his current proyect.

Man, the stars of the movie are Axl, Slash y Duff, they are the relevant in both bands....

Jajaja se te chingo la " y " rocker  ;D

I don't understand why I have to read the name "Twat" on this topic.  ???

By the other hand, HBK, stop lying, 90% of your posts have always been LIES. Visit Uzisuicide.com.ar for more information.

without strong hit????

wtf...slither......fall to peices not ring a bell.... they were strong.

Tickets Sales: 15.000

Sold Bad religion      : 5.000
Sold Velvet Revolver: 2000
Invitation Generals  : 1000 (Radios, Tv, Newspapers, etc).

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EVANESCENCE:

Tickets: 17.000

SOLD OUT

WUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJAJAJAJA ajAJjaj...

HBK *

What is the joke?

Ricky Martin : 70.000
Robbie Wiliams: 60.000
etc....

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Velvet Revolver: 11.000
Motorhead : 8.000
etc...

The real good music is not popular man....

I'm so proud of Velvet Revolver.  :beer:

What a fuckin' stupid review!!!!!!!
I was there!!!
Scott never say something against the audience!!!..... is just the stupid journalist who doesn't know nothing about english, thinks that if Scott scream "we play MF rock n' roll" is going against Chile........ only because he heard MF....
A "Fuck yeah!!!" (because the show was going amazing!!!!) and the same story again..........
Now, i heven't seen shows of VR in other places that for example, Do it for the kids is the whole audience singing the song, or Slither, etc.... Of course, the new songs, the people are looking at and listening, you can see the same thing when GN'R was returning in RIR 2001 with the new songs, and that was a show that every single person was expecting.
I was standed in front of Slash, maybe the most closer guy in the show, and they couldn't belive all the big stuff that was going on at the moment..... sometimes Slash or Duff look to each other, laughing, like sayin' "this is so fuckin' amazing!!" because the people were crazy all along the show.......
Talkin' about GN'R songs, is obviously, people were crazy, more than ever........ most of the people in there are using GN'R t-shirts, and hear again the same sound of old times it's crazy...... and in wish you were here, where they say that was a big moment, more than a VR song is bullshit, it's only because Scott made the crowd sing, and was beautiful

The show was amazing, and those reviews can't be told by people that go to a show and having no idea what they will see.... and Slash sounds was great, and he played better than ever.....i'm a collector of VR stuff, and is the best performance in VR i've seen. Then, i went to Argentina, and was amazing too, so, VR 3 times in a week.... too much emotions in a few days can kill anyone.....
I would love to still with this.......but i'm bussy now

not true....... i've been working in other events in the same place were the tickets sold were like 12000, or less, and in this show were more crowd....... i got a call in the middle of the show from a person of CIE and told me that were sold more than 13000 and another call from a friend who was at the far place to stage and told it looks full......... minutes before the show, it got full because of the time, they got free to late, and ran to the show, and in a moment i step up to the "bars" and look back, and it was almost full............................. so sorry...... : ok:

and of course.......esteban and others are always working very hard against VR, and don't look far from his eyes......

So by your crazy logic you can't like both VR and GN'R now.... ??? ::)

What's so wrong about liking GN'R and VR?
I don't know why people have to take sides, they both rock! :beer:

Well, I need to modify my opinion. You obviously can like GNR and VR and use the same word ''rock'' to describe them. Everyone is allowed to think whatever they want. You are also allowed to believe in democracy and socialism at the same time, no matter how incompatible those two concepts are.

I just dont like VR, i cant understand how someone that is accustom [I hope Im using the right word] to listen to songs like Estranged, Coma, November Rain, Jungle, TWAT, The Blues or CD, can like, at the same time, the songs featured in ''Contraband'' [that I consider mediocre, repetitive and boring]

and I agree with points 2 or 3. Do i need to explain why also?

damn, that was on april 12th...

Looks like you're up against the wall as well!  ::)

Fair call, but the way you made out like it's impossible to like one and the other, and that to be a fan of one you have to hate the other. And your call about Contraband being mediocre is your opinion, because to me it stands along fine with my other GN'R albums.

I've stated many times that I support both bands, I don't know why it has to be so black and white to some people.

I supported VR a lot of time, since ''The Project'' and you dont have an idea of how much excited I was the first time I saw a download link to ''Slither'' in the old ''newGNR'' forum if Im not wrong. I also bought ''Contraband'' the same day it was released in my country, and I went running back to my house with tears falling of my face. I always said that VR has potential, but they are not exploiting it. Contraband's tenth track is, in my opinion, a masterpiece. An incredible song worthy of admiration. That song makes me believe that THEY CAN make great songs, but they're choosing the easy way of the flat and repetitive rock style, like they are trying (with no success) to exploit the good old AFD formula (the goose that lays the golden eggs)

The song in question, ''You Got No Right'', didn't have a place between the video clips/singles, is not being played by the band, and the rock world is missing that song, and instead of that, they chose to show the world shitty, shitty video/songs like Come On Come In or Dirty Little Thing...

After Contraband I was very dissapointed/disillusioned. After the VR show I attended a month ago, I realised how much I love this current GNR lineup and that I should not give a fuck, from now on, about VR. Then comes Weiland to talk about Axl and I just cant resist...

At first I only had musical reasons. Now I have musical reasons + Weiland.

Hard drug users don't have much accountability for their actions - too out of it to reflect.  :beer:

I obviously dont agree with most of your sentiment; while a poor choice for a single, "Dirty Little Thing" is great and probably the most GNR-sounding song VR has done yet.  Im a big fan of "Come On, Come In" as well.  But I share your disappointment about "You Got No Right."  I fell in love with it the first time I heard the Smashbox bootleg featuring Izzy Stradlin (October of '03?) and its become my favorite VR song.  Its disappointing enough that it wasnt chosen as a single (though I believe it was considered, or at least an acoustic version was), but its even more disappointing to see it dropped by the band.  The same goes for "Loving The Alien," a song they havent even acknowledged, let alone played live since the first albums release. 


Ill point out again the oddness of holding that attitude and posting so much in this section.

Well, we are talking about 'rudeness'.

Cmon, what the fuck is that supposed to mean? :rofl: This guy should really get his head up from his ass..

Well actually there was only 2/5 guys from VR (or GN'R for that matter) who took part in the writing of ISE  :P
But yeah I enjoy VR's Mr. B quite much.

take a look about what did i say in this topic before about that........ is really stupid  :rofl:

No rude.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I consider mediocre and boring songs as Twat and Chinese Democracy, I love Slither, Do it for the kids, Sucker train blues, Fall to pieces, She buils quick machines, etc..    it's only tastes thing.

estebanf I understand you, you like a pop syle (remember Robbie wiliams), so you prefer tha New music  of New guns n' roses, I am a rocker by that I prefer the classic rock sound of Velvet Revolver.

yet another example of a hardcore VR fan trying to justify everything VR does with ''newguns''.

sorry, I wont play your game again. Say what you want, just remember that you're supposed to talk about VR here

I use "Newguns" cause' is absolutly necessary, if I don't use the "new" you think that I am talking about the real Guns n' Roses.

by the way GNR was a rock classic band (as Velvet Revolver),  I prefer and love that kind of music.

Oh god is there a free-pet forum in this world?

Let's don;t let this descend into another VR/GNR debate, keep it on topic.