Here Today... Gone To Hell!

It has become obvious that a former band member or manager has a disc with primitive versions of songs and has given a copy to a couple of fans. Knowing full well that they would eventually share them with others. This was done  to hurt the band! So a rough version of Madagascar from over 5 years ago comes out. The vocals were not flattering and it sounded more like they were trying to put it together rather than make it good. This shit wasn't meant for our ears. I think these so called people that have these songs better give up their sources for it. I think everyone deserves to know who is trying to ruin GNR and Chinese Democracy.

I think you are way off base.....

The fact that this could be a song from over 5 years ago is a testament to why many of us are so desperate to get these leaks.

Who ever gave these to that guy, that person was intending to do harm and not do anything kind or good.

Dude the leak at least gives us something to tide us over

Or whoever did it is a hell of a guy because we would be stuck sitting here in silence listening to nothing when at least now we have something. Maybe somebody close to the project that has half a heart decided to throw a straving fan base a bone. These leaks help to keep fan moral up, and without them the past year I think things would be worse around here than they already are.

It's just a fact of life. And if the album is near to being released, we'll see the whole album in its intended, fully finished form before its official release. That doesnt make people feel any better, but its the way it is.

Did you hear Madagascar?! You can tell that was a shit version that was never meant to see the light of day!

I have to second that, and it wont even hurt album sales that much.

If this album leaks, everything we have been waiting for will be in vain.

I think it is more of trying to make Axl and the Band look like shit.

How so...?

The question is when, not if.

Axl and the band have had an awful long time to prove otherwise up til now, so they have no one to blame but themselves that we are stuck listening to old demos instead of the album right now. No one would give a hoot about those old demos if we have a new album to listen to.

Seriously...?!?!?!?!?!

How many people, internationally, do you think have heard the leaks...? The answer is just a hard core of web geeks like us. And we know how shit they and axl can be lol! if they are bein leaked with some kinda malicious intent, it wont, and cant, work.

I think it so unds fucking awesome.

I dont get where people think it isnt great.

Sure the vocals arent Axl's best but they are still better than most shit out today by far.

In which case "When the album leaks" would make it a statement, not a question. ;)

These leaks are the best thing to happen to us in quite a long time. One man's shit is another man's treasure.

nice guess.

seeing as its the basis of your whole theory care to explain just why this random idea pulled out of your bum holds any basis in reality.

stop guessing.

i don't know what you or anyone else around here have been waiting for.. but all i've been waiting for is some kick ass music  : ok:

I like the demos. They help hold us till CD comes out. Its nice to hear how the songs were back 6 or 7 years ago. And wondering what the songs are going to be like on the album when it comes out.

Old or not....is a ass-kickin' song!!!! Something that Velvet Revolver wouldn't never create..

How is  that useful or relevant to the conversation?

It's not uncommon for bands to record their songs and record alternate versions.  Sometimes these "work in progress" versions get burned onto a CD in the studio and taken home by somebody.  It's not unusual that sometimes these end up in the wrong hands....stuff happens. 

This is not some 6 or 7 year old mix.  The mix that leaked incorporated the same arrangement the band used for their 2006 tour.  It's not the same than the 2002 tour live version and totally different than 2001.  The lead vocals just happened to be an alternate take, that's it.  Leave it at that. 

cybercurves

At last we know rabid GNR fans are out there, and will be the force to spread the word when CD is actually out, and at the end of the day that should make us all happy!,  and to got further, we as fans havwe got to hear so such stuff from the old era, through leaks and whatever, which most fans of other bands only hear if a box set comes out. Im sorry but GNR fans , many are really selfish assholes , and clueless.

I take what comes with a grain of salt, I listen to GNR cause they are my favorite band , and have been for 20 yrs, and as always the people that bitch the most are those that must sufer from ADD, or some shit.


The leaks in the long run wont do a damn thing, as far as sales, I think people seem to miss the point that if we are fans we should be so lucky.


Luck only last so long, and time runs out!. wise up some of you. 


and oh PEACE!

jazjme :beer:

I thank the leaker of the songs in Feb 2006, as I do believe that if those songs had not been leaked, the band would never have started to perform those tracks live and we would have never heard their live takes on There Was a Time, IRS and Better in 2006. Catcher in the Rye was an excellent song, and was supposed to be sung live in London with Brian May (except he couldnt get himself sorted with equitment) so as of yet we havent heard it. However, I believe that this song was not supposed to be leaked personally and certain people got very upset over that.

As for the studio version of Madagascar, it is the best quality song we have so far, and it fully represents the band attempting to create something monumental. Without those leaks, I would have fucked off, and I wouldnt have come back. I'm very pissed at how things are now, but at least I take refuge in knowing those leaks have helped us sample some of the flavour of the new album. And Ill still happily buy the new album when its released this year, and I am confident it will be.

As for songs such as Silkworms and Rhiad and the Bedouins, the live 'experiments' we have of these songs show progression, they show a band refusing to be railroaded into making the same kind of music all the time. Maybe theyre dead and buried, maybe we'll get them as bonus tracks on a single, only time will tell.

If Prostitute turns out to be real, it also shows another significant step with the band, and is again another great track as along with The Blues shows the band still retain their Queen influences and sound all the better for it.

I remember the day I first heard I.R.S. had been leaked at Chinese Democracy, I was so happy, and was so content in hearing that material for that first time. I'm still as eager to get that album now as I was then, and even more so, as the leaks have bettered by appetite....for destruction : ok: :rofl: