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France opens secret UFO files covering 50 years

by Marlowe Hood

PARIS (AFP) - France became the first country to open its files on UFOs Thursday when the national space agency unveiled a website documenting more than 1,600 sightings spanning five decades.
 
The online archives, which will be updated as new cases are reported, catalogues in minute detail cases ranging from the easily dismissed to a handful that continue to perplex even hard-nosed scientists.

"It is a world first," said Jacques Patenet, the aeronautical engineer who heads the office for the study of "non-identified aerospatial phenomena."

Known as OVNIs in French, UFOs have always generated intense interest along with countless conspiracy theories about secretive government cover-ups of findings deemed too sensitive or alarming for public consumption.

"Cases such as the lady who reported seeing an object that looked like a flying roll of toilet paper" are clearly not worth investigating, said Patenet.

But many others involving multiple sightings -- in at least one case involving thousands of people across France -- and evidence such as burn marks and radar trackings showing flight patterns or accelerations that defy the laws of physics are taken very seriously.

A phalanx of beefy security guards formed a barrier in front of the space agency (CNES) headquarters where the announcement was made, "to screen out uninvited UFOlogists," an official explained.

Of the 1,600 cases registered since 1954, nearly 25 percent are classified as "type D", meaning that "despite good or very good data and credible witnesses, we are confronted with something we can't explain," Patenet said.

On January 8, 1981 outside the town of Trans-en-Provence in southern France, for example, a man working in a field reported hearing a strange whistling sound and seeing a saucer-like object about 2.5 meters (eight feet) in diameter land in his field about 50 meters (yards) away.

A dull-zinc grey, the saucer took off, he told police, almost immediately, leaving burn marks. Investigators took photos, and then collected and analyzed samples, and to this day no satisfactory explanation has been made.

The nearly 1,000 witness who said they saw flashing lights in the sky on November 5, 1990, by contrast, had simply seen a rocket fragment falling back into earth's atmosphere.

Patenet's answer to questions about evidence of life beyond Earth was sure to inflame the suspicions of those convinced the government is holding back: "We do not have the least proof that extra-terrestrials are behind the unexplained phenomena."

But then he added: "Nor do we have the least proof that they aren't."

The CNES fields between 50 and 100 UFO reports ever year, usually written up by police. Of these, 10 percent are the object of on-site investigations, Patenet said.

Other countries collect data more or less systematically about unidentified flying objects, notably in Britain and in the United States, where information can be requested on a case-by-case basis under the Freedom of Information Act.

"But we decided to do it the other way around and made everything available to the public," Patenet said.

The aim was to make it easier for scientists and other UFO buffs to access the data for research.

The website itself -- which crashed host servers hours after it was unveiled due to heavy traffic -- is extremely well organized and complete, even including scanned copies of police reports.

To visit the website: www.cnes-geipan.fr.

Link to article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070322/wl_afp/sciencespaceufo;_ylt=AsOGlfyBr6QGKR0J5Wkm638DW7oF

Website doesn't load for me.

now if only Area 51 undoes some shit we'd know all  :-X :nervous:

if i'm not here tomarrow you know why.........

you are on vacation?

So, 50 years and 1600 cases and the best they can do is "well, 25% of the cases couldn't be readily explained."

Those aliens sure are good at covering their tracks.

I've been interested in the subject since 1992, when I had my first UFO sighting.

The sighting occured over the skies of New York City on a cold November night. I guess it could have been classified as a "Mass Sighting," but nothing was ever on the news or in the paper. It was really fucking mad. Besides the ufo's I saw, I could clearly see accross New York Bay where they were launching unplanned fireworks near the Brooklyn Bridge. I could also see clearly that MISSILES were being fired much HIGHER in the sky and a few degrees to the right of the fireworks show. Lasted about 5 minutes.

But my interest wasn't necesarily sparked on that November night, even though what I saw was fucking insane, and even though every Brooklyn and Manhattan fire department I went to the next day refused to acknowledge the fireworks the night before.

It wasn't until 8 months later when articles began showing up in UFO magazines that were talking about "a ufo that was shot down in Long Island, NY." The crash supposedly occured 40 miles east of where I saw the action, and the crash just happened to occur on the same night as my sighting. They supposedly brought the wreckage and bodies to Brookhaven National Laboratories in Brookhaven, Long Island. Here's a picture of one of the aliens that was supposedly captured. The pic was "smuggled" out of the installation...

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3979/alien1yj0.jpg)

I never officially reported my sighting because I recognized a simple logical fact; If what I saw was real, I wouldn't live long enough to finish explaining what I saw that night.

Since then I've learned some things that would surprise even most ufo buffs. Among them...

1. The Visitors are the ones who have wanted it to be kept secret all this time. The governemnt (at least the U.S.) has no say in this matter, their hands are tied, and they simply PRETEND to be in control and PRETEND to be the ones keeping the secret. The truth would scare the shit out of everyone reading this.

2. The classic "Anal Probe" is a medical device, and if you've ever gotten one, you're probably still alive even though you should have died by now of a disease or other health problem. (Think about how ironic it is... 20 years later, people are now WILLINGLY going to the DOCTOR to get a similar medical procedure :hihi: )

3. At least one group of Visitors regard England in a different manner than most other countries. (Hence the mammoth-sized crop formations)

4. Ever since shortly after the Manned Moon Missions, we haven't been ALLOWED to send men and women to the Moon again. (The Visitors also destroyed at least one U.S. Mars probe and one Russian Mars probe) The same goes for no Manned Missions allowed to go to Mars. Nasa has covered this up for much of the last 25 years by pretending to be disinterested in Manned Missions to The Moon or Mars. It all relates to government's sick obsession with war machines.

You all can laugh at this and flame me, but I'll be the one to get the last laugh... that's a promise.  :hihi:

And by the way... technology always eventually leaks down to us... like Number 2 and the bold above  :rofl:

http://rense.com/ufo4/slayton.htm

hahaha omg Rubber Bullets is fucking hilarious.

You've gotta be fucking kidding me.

I heard that Nasa was planning on manned missions to mars and the moon in the next couple of years and also what where the names of the probes that were lost to the visitors? and what part of the universe did they come from? I'm not making fun of you i'm just asking questions cause i am a firm believer that they exist but why wouldn't they want us to know that they are here?

are they cool or do they want to kill us? do they have cures for different sicknesses like Cancer or Aids?
???


PS. if your just some smart ass well....nice one : ok:

What could possibly be learned in life if you woke up tomorrow and had all the answers and all the cures?

D was anally probed by an alien that was disguised as his second cousin "Chip".

Upon further investigation, it turned out it was just his second cousin Chip.

2. The classic "Anal Probe" is a medical device, and if you've ever gotten one, you're probably still alive even though you should have died by now of a disease or other health problem. (Think about how ironic it is... 20 years later, people are now WILLINGLY going to the DOCTOR to get a similar medical procedure   :hihi: )

Ooops. My bad. It's been more like FORTY years since the first anal probe was reported.... and at least 20 years later that people started to hear about the benefits of a colonic.

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/coloncleanse/a/colonic.htm

dont get all Mysterion on me and give me word play, just give me a strait up answer. Please.

Sorry. I didn't mean to sound cryptic. I just don't have ALL the answers. I only know what I've learned personally or what people on the inside have told me.

The U.S. Mars probe was the one that was on the news several years ago as "malfunctioning" and being lost/crashed. The Russian one didn't get as much mainstream media, but it took a picture of a huge object approaching it right before its last transmission.

The question about intentions is a difficult one. If you were looking down on a civilisation that just wants to lob missiles at each other... and even lob missiles at YOU (being the hypothetical visitors), than what would YOU think? You'd probably think something like, "Well these people need to take their government back from the power-hungry war mongers and oil companies who have taken them over."

So I'd imagine the governemnt would see them as a threat, but you might not. It's hard to answer a question like that because I'm not sure how you see the world around you. Depends what country you live in too. The discussion could also get too politcal and then the flamers will come. It's bad enough we're talking about aliens and missiles flying over the skies of New York City.

I just wanted to share a life-altering experience of mine, and a few things I know to be true on the subject of these "Visitors," which have probably been here all along and wouldn't really make them visitors at all. My father was in the U.S. Airforce and later did top secret aviation electronics for a company called Bendix. So I was raised from the perspective of already knowing they are here. But still, the thing over NYC was quite shocking.

That couldn't have perhaps been a picture of whatever it crashed into, by any chance? Like, say for example, if you were about to smash headfirst into a giant space rock, wouldn't it look a lot like something huge was approaching you? And you probably wouldn't send out too many transmissions after being smashed into millions of tiny pieces of space-junk.

Seems worth considering.

One of the main reasons NASA just doesn't up and go to the moon is because they don't have a proper rocket to do it. They also do not have the plans to build one, because the plans for the Saturn 5 Rocket were destroyed in a routine housecleaning.

i hope that was sarcasm :hihi:

Edward Rose:
ok i remember hearing about a mars probe being labled as malfunction a while ago now that you mention it. I forget its name....galileo? :-\ or however you spell it.

The Russian Probe i've heard of too but didn't know that it was one that was lost, however, i have heard that it crash landed in a part of Mars thats uncharted.

One more question and i'll leave you alone. The way you're talking its almost like your saying that they controll us basically? am i wrong there?

btw i'm from a small town south of Omaha, NE? :D :(

Yes it was considered. But the object was 13 miles accross, and considering how low and close to Mars' surface it was, it would have impacted shortly after and EVERY amateur astronomer on Earth would have know about it.


And that picture-post is one of the reasons and answers as to why you won't see them any time soon. The few interested people here and elswhere online, would like to thank you for helping to f**k it up for 6 billion people  :rofl:

The Russian probe was called "Phobos." (Pronounced Foh-boh-s)

They don't control us. We have free will. We have all the Right in the world to sit back and let our leaders carry us to hell in a hand basket. And other people have every Right in the world to poke fun at the most important subject in our history besides global warming.

I can't answer your question about "Control" in a proper way, without making what some would consider to be "Political statements." And then the discussion will get even uglier than some guy sitting on a toilet taking a crap. The only control being exerted on us is due to the decisions and hostile stance that our leaders decided to take with the Visitors. The reason they made those decisions is where it gets political.

(http://southpark.colorado.net/shared/eventscalendar/photos/Oil-Well.jpg)

FWIW; One of the most active UFO hotspots right now is near Leeds in England.

What was the official verdict?

There were actually TWO Russian probes that were lost. They were both trying to investigate a moon of Mars that was already considered anomolous by the astronimical community, which caused many in the UFO community to theorize that the moon was actually an "Alien Base."

Here are some of the strange aspects of the moon...

The hollow nature of the moon suggested by its strange gravitational behaviour, its strange closeness to the Martian surface, its visionary discovery by Jonathan Swift, the failure of Hershell and others to discover the moon over previous decades, the sudden discovery by Hall that suggested it was not there before, and the failure of Phobos 1.

The official explanations of the loss of the two probes, Phobos 1 & 2, are below...

Phobos 1 (launched 07 July 1988) operated nominally until an expected communications session on 2 September 1988 failed to occur. The failure of controllers to regain contact with the spacecraft was traced to an error in the software uploaded on 29/30 August which had deactivated the attitude thrusters. This resulted in a loss of lock on the Sun, resulting in the spacecraft orienting the solar arrays away from the Sun, thus depleting the batteries.

Phobos 2 (launched 21 July 1988) operated nominally throughout its cruise and Mars orbital insertion phases, gathering data on the Sun, interplanetary medium, Mars, and Phobos. Shortly before the final phase of the mission, during which the spacecraft was to approach within 50 m of Phobos' surface and release two landers, one a mobile 'hopper', the other a stationary platform, contact with Phobos 2 was lost. The mission ended when the spacecraft signal failed to be successfully reacquired on 27 March 1989. The cause of the failure was determined to be a malfunction of the on-board computer.

Here is the infrared image taken by Phobos 1 right before it failed. The object is about 13 miles wide, 1 mile think and perfectly flat on the top and bottom...

(http://www.ufologie.net/pics/phobpmo1.jpg)

Chip...you are still around? OMG.

I remember reading your posts like 10 years ago man...on the altnet GNR board. HAHA.

Whatever happened to that conspiracy/GNR book you wrote?

Good question. I let all that shit go, but it came back to haunt me. And then, due to me recieving an insurance settlement check and the impecable timing of weather disasters and last year's Gn'R concert at Donington, my book sort of unintentionaly became a movie.

But I don't go to bb's to whore my crappy movie or my crappy web site. So you'll have to "use illusion" to find my site, the trailer and preview clips.  ;D And as long as you don't post a picture of me sitting on a toilet in front of a trailer, I'll mail you the double-DVD for free.  : ok:

wanna see something sick?

go here-
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5830866813023883728
found it earlier today when i was at school looking for topics to discuss in my government cover ups speech, and i typed in Alien autopsy and up came this. :puke: :smoking: i thought it was kinda cool but my teacher made me X out of it before the good part. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but will tomarrow.

the first 3 minutes is nothing but looking at the body so if ya can fast forward ;)

:peace:

Yeah I remember that when it came out in the mid-90's. There was actually a time when Blockbuster had it for rent.

All indications are that it's real, although it went through such a disinformation cover-up that I'd rather not get into it at an internet message board. (This ain't my first B.B.Q.  ;) )

Of particular intest to me was the fact that the "Black eyes" which are typical of these "aliens," turned out in the autopsy footage to be a black organic skin coating over a regular humanoid eye ball, that seemed to act as a U.V. lense of some kind. Curious, as any hoaxer would likely have just crammed black eye balls into a fake alien body.

Funny you found that... I just used a still shot of this autopsy in my "Need Donington 2006" thread at the Appetite for Collection forum.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=44819.msg911451#msg911451
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9621/alien2tc5.jpg)

hey ed, are there any sites on the web that has good legit information on the subject that you know of? i had to do a speech on something that was controversial and i picked this i couldn't think of any thing else. But i want to focus on how and why the government covered it up

Thanks for your help : ok:

To be perfectly honest with you, there really ISN'T any good source for ufo info.  If you remember, I made some statements in my first post in this thread with regards to the "Truth" and other things I discovered or witnesses on my own, and how these things are rarely written about or reported on. No one wants to hear about the Visitors having great concern for some Earthling's psychological state and giving some Earthlings a form of "Shock therapy" while on a  flying saucer. Regardless, for every truth that MIGHT be out there, two lies will accompany it.

On the subject of why the gov covered it up, my best advice would be to research something called "Project Blue Book." You may also want to elaborate and theorize on my own feeling that the truth is too scary for most people, and would also show just how powerless our governments are and have no ability to protect us from the "threat."

I've left most of that s*** behind me, and am now working on "Political" stuff... and it's all going "perfectly to plan."  :hihi:

I've always felt it is very naive to think in a universe so big there would be no life except ours.

I've also found it is just like us self-centered humans to be so naive and think we are so important in a universe this big to be "secretly" visted upon, studied and/or controlled by some alien race.? :smoking:

I've read so many books about "project blue book" I feel that there has to be some truth to it...

It's too bad that almost all the documents that were released under the FOIA concerning "blue book" were useless since everything that could be even remotely intersting was blacked out...

I remember another one of these projects not sure what it's name was could it be project "Majestic"?



Oh and CDeventually you might find this stuff interesting:

http://foia.fbi.gov/bluebook/bluebook.pdf

Werent there some shit that crasched in Soviet Russia during the 60s?

yeah i think there was but i forget what exactly i think it was just a astroid i don't remember


ohh and thank you Grouse : ok: the link doesn't work for me but i'll google it :hihi:

and ed, i can beleive that cause for every one person that has seen it all or does know the truth there are at least 2 dumbasses that just want atension and will say what ever ::)

Thanks again for the help :peace:

You need a .pdf viewer like acrobat reader or foxit reader to view it   :)

The thing you're referring to is called the "Majestic 12 Documents." Those are also caught up in confusion, as some of the documents are real and others can't be proven either way. But MJ-12 is supposed to be a group of controllers... similar to the group Cancer Man reports to in The X-files, who actually control the world. Bush Sr. is supposedly one of the only faces we would recognize as a current-day member of this group, which is only one of the reasons why he's the target of my political agenda.

http://www.majesticdocuments.com

(http://www.tao.nm.ru/ufo.jpg)


or something like that.

funny bunkerthing though.

 :nervous: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6046596687847798944  :nervous:

i find that hilarious :hihi:

First of all, why do all aleins seen by humans have that cliched look?

why can't we have smart, intelligent beings like Star Trek?

why can't aliens be handsome like marlon brando from superman

Just calm down everyone. We already HAVE good looking aliens. This one is from a planet called Naboo...

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/97/nptz1.jpg)

that's actually an actor from a movie ::)

No silly. She's actress from a planet called Naboo!  :love:

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/97/nptz1.jpg)

No you're silly, she's from earth and her name is Natalie Portman.

Stop raining on my Alien Chick Fantasy parade!  :rant:

She's in trouble. She's gonna get and she doesn't even know it... and I'm gonna give it to her.  :hihi:

The government can simply deny UFOs because of the first word: unidentified. To the government, they have been identified.

Here's an interesting fact: Bush is just one of the dumber aliens wearing a human suit. No appropriate aliens were on hand at the time of the election.

princess amidala was a human.

get your star wars mythology right

hey, whether she's from Earth, Naboo, or Uranus i'd fuck her 8) :beer:

Actually none of them were human because the setting of the movies are, "A long, long time ago in a glaxy far, far away." And Earth was never mentioned. So it is simply assumed that the human-looking characters are the most humanoid and closest to us. They're all aliens from our location and time frame perspective. Even if the human-looking characters are 100% the same as us, in a hypothetical scenario they would still be "Alien" upon arrival to our planet if they were to visit or seed this planet with their dna.

Now back to business. Did I mention how much trouble Natalie is in?  :-*

good point.

what planet was lando and mace windu from  ::) ??? ;D

Here's a picture I took from a train while travelling from Zurich to Amsterdam. I think I was in Switzerland at the time but it may have been in west Germany. The object was moving from right to left and I barely had time to take the pic...

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8369/ufo5oj4.jpg)

Looks like the Goodyear blimp. Damned aliens and their retro-tech 1930s obsession. Unidentified Flying Zeppelin.

did any one else see it?

kinda looks like a comet. You'd think that things like that would show up on a radar on the ground, but some how i guess not ::)

nice find btw man, i'da never cought that : ok: