Here Today... Gone To Hell!

What do you guys think about him? I think he is one of the funniest people alive. Do you think he should be allowed to say the things he does or do you think clear channel is being to harsh.

I've only seen that radio/tv show he had. That was redneck bollocks. But if he's annoying clear channel, he gets the thumbs up from me.

Howard Stern rocks! Without people like him radio entertainment would be boring. I've been watching his E show sense '97. : ok:

I personally like listening to the show, I think it can be hilarious at times.  However, he needs to get his facts straight when bashing Bush.  Actually he shouldn't bash Bush at all because he doesn't know much about politics.  But that's the way it goes, a lot of people in intertainment think they know everything about politics when in fact they don't know jack. 

All americans have the right to voice their opinions,  whether they know about politics or not! I believe if a person votes they have equal say in everything relating to our government.

I love howard. I think it's the only radio worth listening to most of the time. And on all forums of entertainment theres a ton fo people who try to copy him and can't pull it off half as funny so you know he has to have talent. And as far as him supposedly not knowing enough about politics to bash bush...that's really fucking stupid. Like REALLY fucking stupid. You could make a case that he doesn't know enough about certain political agendas regarding Bush but he knows he disagrees with MANY of Bush's views. Howard supports gay marriages & stem cell research. he is against censorship and mixing religion with politics. These are very strong issues that Bush feels quite different on (because he is a moron...sorry i tried to not bash him but I can't help it).

I listen every morning and was wondering if anyone else does..? I can't belive artie was already going to fuck up that job, I would also watch out if I was ralph because of sal the stock broker, he's a fucking nut job.. I know some enjoy opie and anthony on satellite but I have been with stern since the late 80's so I don't wan tto turn this into an argument thread.

The stuff he does about katie holmes with tom cruise cracks me up each day, two fucking loons

I listen every day as long as  I can.  I even listen in my office but I have to be quick to turn down the radio if I get visitors. 


The stuff with Sal lately has been hilarious, expecially his obsession with Howard. 

I missed the stump the pervert contest with Ron Jeremy and Richard Christy, did anyone hear it? I had a meeting and to get out of my car.

I've already got my satellite radio, so I'm all set when he moves. 

I'm not the radio-listener kind of  person but HS is hilarious and his Private Parts movie is classic. : ok:

Richard lost to ron, ron was an awesome guest he is quite funny, witty, and intelligent.. He even diagnosed beetlejuice he said before porn he worked with people like him.. I love that beetle song, I have it stuck in my head all teh time :hihi:

was a fan now i am not....

He makes me laugh... :yes:

you listen in france or did you live in the usa for a bit??

I am gonna get a syrius radio just so I can listen.

If I could pick up his show where I live, I would definitely listen all the time.

My brother and I use to make it a nightly ritual to watch his show on E TV but I havent watched it in awhile.

I think he is definitely the best at what he does and many copy cat types have came and gone but he is the orginal.

When does his thing start with syrius?

stern used to be great, now he spends too much time bitching about the government and "ripoff shows" opie and anthony are now the best in radio. IMO

January 1st, unless he gets out of his contract sooner, which seems unlikely.

I got sirius around christmas, just to be prepared for him to switch.  But now I love it and listen to it all the time.  100X better than regular radio, in my opinion. 

Why?

yeah man.. I would love to hear him on satelite radio.. I went to down to Union Square in manhattan and was just a line to far back when they all came out to hand out radios last fall... Lots of scores girls were there though..

Ah man he does complain but it must suck not being able to do a show and always being monitored by the governemtn like he's the worst thing out there.. His complainingets to me but then I see some cool bit he was going to do or eevrything is bleeped then I say this fucking sucks he has no freedom...

D I use to watch teh E show all the time, butt bongo fiesta all his pay per views shit the old channel 9 show.. Just 11pm is way to late for me now.. I do listen religuosly though

The man is a pioneere and he will only be hurting free radio the longer they keep him on, if they were smart they would fire him so he wasn't there  showing why sirius will be better

BA BA Booey :beer:

I used to get the televised show on cable, and went to the usa for a bit  ;)

Nothing could beat the Heather Locklear moments ( on tv) and i especially loved the golden pants that showed his ass ( gold lam?)..

Wasn't the tv show axed ?

What's become of that black woman who was on too  ? i liked her.

you mean the tv show with robin quivers his side kick recording of the radio show?? yeah it was gone a few years back ,but they have the E! channel which airs all the same stuff..

Well now I know what what I'm buying myself for christmas.

though i was at best buy the other day and almost bought one it was only like $100 plus the monthly Suvscribtion.

stern has become a giant fraud, check these out

full audio
http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displayheadline.cfm/id/6289/div/opieanthony/headline/TIME_TO_FIRE_BACK_AT_HOWARD

flash animation (part audio)
http://files.foundrymusic.com/SWF/oa_stern_spolsports.swf


more audio
http://opackvirus.com/xm/04132005_howie_endorses_xm.mp3

he is funny, but very provocative. Maybe too much sometimes. But he is funny.
I used to watch a couple of his radio momments like jessica on the french TV (paris premiere) a long time ago.

I'm just a fan of the show man I don't care what he does..

I can't get that damn beetlejuice song out of my head..

 man I never download I really fucked up my last pc..(gunsnroses393 )

I used to listen to Stern all the time when I lived in New York. Than for a few years when I was in the military that I couldnt pick up his show where I was stationed. When I moved to Florida I could get his show again and I was like "Alright! Same old Howard :beer:!" After listening for a few months my attitude became "Damn its the same thing almost everyday! :rant:"

Howard broke the ground for all the talk stations now that try to push the envelope and should be bowed down to everymorning by all talk show hosts for what he has done in the past, but his present and future seem pretty dull in my opinion. He's going to make a ton of money going to satellite radio, and good for him he deserves it but I'll stick with my all talk station down here, that entertains me just as well and its free. If anyone wants to check this station out, all the shows are broadcast from their website  www.wzzr.com   just click on the listen live link. All the shows broadcast from Florida so it might be a bit to localized for some tastes.

only the 1st one is a DL, the others should take you right to the link and start playing it

Anyone going to be in New York for the final show?

I like Stern, but a little goes a long way. Same shit every show.

As I said in the O'Reilly thread, Stern was once great.? His current show is just lame and his outrageous self-aggrandizing is embarassing.? Just a few weeks ago he actually claimed to "invent" having artists perform acoustically on the radio after taking credit for the MTV UnPlugged series. :no: That kind of delusion seems to have dominated the show in recent years.? He sounds asleep at the microphone nowadays, he cowers from competition only to make behind-the-scenes power plays with management, and the show consists largely of prattle about sushi restaurants and trips to the Hamptons and incredibly lame bits such as "Wheel Of Sex" (which I believe he also took credit for, despite The Man Show doing essentially the same months, if not a year or so, before Stern).? Its painfully obvious that Sterns lost his spark and is just going through the motions, and the entire show just sounds very, very tired.?

In fairness, this is based on occassional visits to MarksFriggin.com, clips played on other radio shows and reports on various websites, because I havent listened to Sterns show in over a year.? I strongly recommend fans of Stern get a free 3-day trial from XMRadio.com (http://xmro.xmradio.com/xstream/index.jsp) and check out the Opie & Anthony Show, a show that resembles Sterns in its prime (the late 80s into the "Billy West Era") in terms of energy, but is completely fresh and singular.  Its more clever, more honest, and just plain funnier than Sterns present show.? I havent listened to more than a minute of Stern since they returned to radio last year.?

So I'll take that as a no, you're not going to the final show?

I still think Stern's show is pretty funny.  I think Artie Lang adds so much to the show.  I don't think it would be nearly as funny without him.  I think Stern is just killing time on air right now until he gets on XM.  Once he's there expect to hear a much more outrageous and funny show.

No...but whats the exact date?  Ill probably check it out a few times during the morning because, in all likelihood, itll be the last time I listen to show and I was a huge fan for many years. 


I really had mixed feelings about Artie...Honestly, I think Jackie leaving basically killed the show.  But when they were auditioning replacements (spring and summer of '01 I believe), I really liked Artie and rooted for him to get the spot.  But soon I started to find him extremely grating, mostly due to his seemingly non-stop lame impressions (the Yosemite Sam-style redneck the Midddle eastern were the worst).  I wasnt finding many of his lines funny either.  With that said, hes a very likeable, fun guy in general, and he is funny.  Ive watched a few of what I suppose are the last E! shows lately, and he seems to be doing a good job. 


Sterns going to Sirius Satellite, but I subscribe to XM and strongly recommend it to anyone.  Id at least suggest getting a free trial for both before making a decision.

Maybe the move to satellite will genuinely revitalize him...but Im skeptical.  Ive heard about his ideas for satellite and theyre as lame as anything hes doing now:

(From the NY Post) December 4, 2005 -- Howard Stern has crowed for months about how he'll get as filthy as humanly possible when he jumps to censorship-free Sirius Satellite Radio next month ? and now he's revealing for the first time, in a New York magazine interview, just how X-rated his new show will be.
In an expletive-filled interview that hits newsstands tomorrow, the sex-obsessed shock jock tells of five new jaw-dropping features that are sure to push the boundaries of bad taste.

The idea behind the filthy five ideas, Stern says, is to gratify his listeners.

"Wouldn't it be brilliant if my audience could all lie down at night together and [achieve orgasm] together?" he asks.

To that end, Stern plans to offer up one regular segment called "Confessions from the Bunny Ranch," in which he plans to wire a room at the famed Nevada whorehouse for sound.

"You'll be right in the prostitute's room. You'll hear the negotiation. You'll hear the screwing. You'll hear the after-sex conversation," Stern tells New York.

He's also working on "I Want to F - - - a Porn Star," a sex-drenched send-up of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire," in which contestants get to have sex with an adult film star if they pass a quiz.

"It's going to be difficult," Stern cautions.

Then there's "Tissue Time With Heidi Cortez," which will feature appearances by a 24-year-old Playboy model who will offer phone sex to Howard's audience.


For years, he presented the "Lesbian Dating Game," in which a gay woman got to take her pick of three hot women. But the segment was dropped after the FCC began its crackdown on "indecent" and "obscene" material. Now it's coming back with a, uh, bang.

"I'm going to give you real action. We'll have the sex right there," Stern says.

Stern is also getting ready to send up "The View," which he's ranked on for years, particularly hammering away at Star Jones.

"We're going to round up four crack whores, and every night we're going to take the exact topics that 'The View' talked about," the shaggy-haired gabber says. "It will be 10 times better."

I like Stern, but won't make it to the final show.

My Sirrius package, however, is purchased and "under the tree" as we speak, though I'll miss his first week on Sirrius as I'll be travelling for work.

His final show on terrestrial radio will be Dec 16th (not this friday, but next).?

What do people think of Adam Corolla and David Lee Roth as replacements?

Howard said on the show that Yahoo is going to broadcast it when he goes outside.? So if you want to see it, you could try that too.? I'm supposed to be at my work Christmas party around that time, but I will probably sneak off a few times.

On the Sirius vs. XM thing, I only have Sirius.? I've had it for a year, but I got it so I could keep hearing Stern.? Turns out, I listen to it all the time.? Its so much better than regular radio.? If anyone was trying to decide though, I would consider what sports you like.? I don't like any, so Howard was the deciding factor for me.? But they don't both carry they same sports.? Sirius has NFL, but XM has baseball.? Not sure what else.?


Adam Corolla might be good.? I won't listen though, because I'll be listening to Sirius.? I really can't see David Lee Roth being even remotely entertaining though.? I've heard him on Stern and he sounds like an idiot.

Our local "Stern" station actually isn't an infinity station.  They're an independant (maybe the last one on the planet...WCCC in Hartford...Stern actually worked their in the early 70's and sometimes mentions them) and are going to be bringing back a local jock (Sebastian) when Stern leaves.  I've heard Sebastion before, and he's not my cup of tea.  He's one of those guys who tries to be raunchy and funny, but ends up THINKING he's funnier than he actually is.

Yeah, my bad Sirius radio.  I'm interested in hearing Roth.  I won't make sure I listen to him, but if he's on when I happen to be in a car I'll give it a listen.  I personally think Artie is a lot funnier than Jackie.  I laugh at Artie more than anyone else on the show.  I was never a huge fan of Jackie, and he was a prick anyway.

last time I saw him was around thanksgiving 04 when stern and the gang were handing out free radios.. I love hearing the dude been following him since the late 80's but I wll not be going..

Did Stern back Kerry or Bush in '04?

From MarksFriggin.com:

"Howard has seen some wild stuff on his bulletin board. There is one thread where people are discussing Steven Hawking's theories. Robin said she saw the thread but avoided it because she knew she wouldn't understand any of it. Howard was impressed with the things they were discussing in there. There was also a note on the board from ''Arties Stomach'' who says he's being sent to Iraq in November. He's supposed to be in service for 525 days and he was wondering if there's anything he can do. Howard said ''Vote for Kerry'' of course."

"The guys spent a few minutes talking about how Bush, Cheney and Ashcroft avoiding going into the service any way they could. He said that Kerry is a hero for volunteering to serve and actually going over to Viet Nam to fight. He also brought up the fact that Maureen Dowd pointed out that the voting process down in Florida hasn't been taken care of since the last election. Howard went off on the President and his administration for a few minutes. He wonders why Kerry hasn't fought back in his ads. The whole Viet Nam thing is a ridiculous argument anyway. Howard said that they dug up Bob Dole who is demanding that Kerry apologize for the things he's said about the Viet Nam war. Howard pointed out that the men who died over there were taking place for people like George W. Bush who managed to avoid serving over there. Howard read an article about how his audience is going to effect the vote in November. He said that a lot of the swing voters that listen to his show are swinging toward voting for Kerry after listening to his show."

"Janks and Howard talked about how they really have to get Bush out of office."

"Cabbie also talked about the NFL player Pat Tillman who died over in Afghanistan and how a lot of people seem to be forgetting that 800 other people have died over there in the Middle East as well. Howard talked about how weird it is that Tillman was a big fan of his show and he went over to fight for the freedom of this country but Howard thinks his show is like the arch enemy of President Bush."

"Howard was also pointing out that George Bush wasn't fighting over in Viet Nam and he's no leader like John Kerry is. He talked about this show he watched and how sick it made him. He talked about how Bush was asked if he spoke to his father about some of the problems they might have when they went into Iraq and Bush says that his father is not the right man to talk to about that stuff. He spoke to a ''higher'' power instead. Howard said that the guy is a moron and a dummy. He was talking to himself about that stuff when he asked the higher power."

"Howard said that he's now going to vote for anyone but Bush in the Presidential election."

Do u know why Booker?

Stern isnt played out cause he wants to be, he is handcuffed by the FCC.

once he gets on Sirius his show will kick ass again.

U gotta remember, he basically cant do anything even remotely obscene.

He said it best, it would be like taking a Chris Rock HBO show and tryin to put it on NBC or something. It wouldnt be any good on NBC whereas its brilliant on HBO.

Stern has no choice but to suck and be watered down cause the FCC started fining him for everything.

So trust me, once he goes to Satellite, he will be awesome again.

 ???

That doesnt really address anything in my post but you seem to specialize in believing and parroting back talking points.  If thats what you believe, then fine.  I dont. 

stern is lame....its the same sophmoric bullshit everyday...its mindless...let me see your tits....i'd like to sleep wit you....its the same show day in and day out.....i stopped listening years ago

orlando has a good morning show called the fiasco, much much better than sten and they play music to boot   : ok:

does anyone know how much stern will be making at sirius? is it public information? i've heard some crazy numbers ($100M per year).

i like stern alot. but if i listen too much, he does get annoying sometimes.

and i think the whole FCC thing is a scam to get people motivated to pay for sirius.

after all, he's going there for the money. no other reason. and it would be a tough sell to his fans to say, "i'm getting paid a ton of money, and guess who is footing the bill....my fans."

Its reported that its $500 for 5 years.  But I don't know if that number has ever been confirmed by official sources.  He doesn't argue when anyone quotes it though.

As far as the FCC, if you listened, you'd know how much his show has had to change since the stupid Janet Jackson bullshit.  He hasn't made up the FCC fines in order to scam people into buying sirius.  I've been listening for over 10 years, and his show is very different now.

Im just sayin Booker you dont know much about Howard Stern, He didnt all of a sudden become lame cause he wanted to become lame.

You have all the answers though, I really dont even know why you post cause you never take anything from anyone else's opinions.

If you think the FCC fining Stern had nothing to do with his show becoming lame then you truly know nothing.

Stern had a great show for over 2 decades and all of a sudden he starts to suck?

HMMMMMMMM wonder why?

The FCC started fining Clear Channel and whoever else he works for, he started getting hit hard in his pocket book and he watered his show down.

If you think the show on Sirius isnt gonna kick ass then you need to seriously get a clue.

 :hihi: That shows how much you know...


I dont think anybody becomes lame because they want to.


I actually explained why I think his show is lame, and it has nothing to do with the FCC or a lack of outrageous content.  Its the opposite, really.  Lame, recycled bits such as "The Wheel Of Sex," boring Playboy model interviews, a general dullness and lack of energy, Jackie Martlings departure (and Billy Wests before that), obnoxious, humorless megalomaniacal rants, etc.  His show has steadily declined for a decade now, and its probably due more to the fact he has done it for so long and is understandably tired, not to mention personal changes.  But the FCC is an easy cop-out talking point, and you accept those pretty easily.  The show I referred to earlier, the Opie & Anthony show, had to abide by the same FCC standards (not to mention a company gag order brought down Mr. Free Speech himself) at their terrestrial peak in 2001-2002 and they still put on what I consider a great show.  Sterns show was already lame at that at that point.  Yes, the FCC certainly made things worse after last years Superbowl incident, but if you think that was the point Sterns show began declining, then we cant agree.


Stern has worked for Infinity Broadcasting since 1985, and has never been fined personally...his "pocket book" has never been hit.  Perhaps you dont know much about Howard Stern? 


Im sure it will be better than it is now, and it might even revitalize Stern significantly which is great, but it wont be as good as it once was and I dont think Id like it much more than I do now.  However, it should be said that Stern is such an extraoridinary natural talent that even when his show is sub-par, as I believe it has been for a good 7 years or so, its still better than 98% of radio.

Howard Stern in Space (http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/features/15250/index.html)
Coming to you via satellite, a brave new radio world, from the once and future king of all media......featuring the Craptacular.

By Steve Fishman  (http://newyorkmetro.com/nymag/author_64)

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(Photo credit: Dan Winters; hair by Toni Coburn; makeup by Eva Scrivo; styling by Ralph Cirella and Marie Blomquist)?

Ahhhh, the shower. All day, Howard Stern has felt so goddamned pressured. He?s in one of his obsessive funks, so frequent lately, and can?t wait to get under the hot water. And freaking relax. So Howard sneaks off, pads across the whitish bathroom tiles, a towel secured around his waist. Howard?s not one to run around the apartment naked. Not with his very small penis?no need for Beth to see him unaroused.


Howard steps into the shower, a palace of curved, floor-to-ceiling glass, determined to escape the stress that is freaking brutal. Every morning, Howard does four-plus hours of America?s most popular morning-radio show. In a few weeks, he will join Sirius, a satellite-radio company, where he vows to reinvent the medium. Sirius is betting $500 million (and, probably, its future) on Howard; it?s given him two entire channels. That?s 48 hours of dead air to fill every single day. Plus, Beth seems to feel a little ignored right now. No wonder he?s barely sleeping.


In the shower, Howard powers up the hot water. There are nozzles everywhere, like eight of them. His hair, that dense wheel of curls, which, thank God, he still has, flattens against his head. Just stand there, Howard tells himself. Zone out. He?s a Transcendental Meditation guy. Every morning and night, he empties his head, which is what he?d like to do right now. Except the vibe?s not right. Is it the freaking bathroom mirror? From the shower, Howard can catch a glimpse of himself, enough to disturb anyone. ?Fat!? is Howard?s reaction to a mirror. ?Ugly!?


Just freaking breathe. In TM, you let distracting thoughts float right out of your mind. Some thoughts, though, are like fish bones. Like how about that ad Howard?s boss took out? Good riddance to twenty years of stale fart jokes, as if he couldn?t wait to usher Howard out the door. Infuriating! Reduce Howard to fart jokes! What about his penis and vagina material? He practically invented saying penis and vagina on the radio! And his stripper bits and lesbian gags and his legion of deformed and defective characters? Howard?s boss ought to drop to his knees and thank him. Those fart jokes built an empire! That genius should get testicular cancer!


Which might be about the time that Howard hears the voice. Where the fuck is this coming from? Howard thinks. He hears a series of sharp, percussive notes, like an old Teletype machine. It?s the way WINS, the all-news radio station, introduces its newscast. Then Howard hears a news anchor?s sonorous voice. Except that instead of introducing the WINS newscast, Howard hears the voice intone, It?s ?he Howard 100 News.?


It?s like the radio gods are sending Howard a radio show. All the news you want about the universe that is Howard Stern. Everything about the characters in Howard?s world, their fascinating lives, including, yes, the gases they pass. And not just the gases! Howard hears that rich newscaster?s voice say, The Howard Stern Sports Department. But our sports, thinks Howard. Like how about High Pitch Eric, one of his characters, who?s fat and disgusting and speaks like a girl, eats for a whole day. People could bet on his, uh, output. It?ll be the . . . Craptacular! Howard can imagine the hushed, reverent tones of the sportscaster, as if he?s describing Tiger Woods. There in the steamy shower, Howard puts his fist to his mouth, like it?s a microphone: High Pitch approaches the Porta Potti. He appears ready. Concentration is on his face . . . That?s funny! That?s genius!


Howard?s boss no longer permits fart noises on the air. But on satellite, anything goes. Yes, Howard thinks, I want to host the Craptacular.


Howard?s so excited about ?The Howard 100 News? he?s got to tell Beth. He rushes out of the shower, almost forgetting the towel. Six foot five and hung like an acorn! Where?s the goddamned towel? ?Honey?!?


In recent years, Howard Stern claims to have harbored a deep secret. It?s a notion that seems, on the face of it, preposterous. After all, Howard has a confessional urge like no one?s ever heard. Before Howard, radio was mostly comforting, discreet, tasteful. Emotion, if it surfaced at all, was happy (later on, and even worse, it was mellow). ?[Radio] was a lot of people who didn?t say shit,? grumbles Howard. To Howard, that was all phony, and Howard despises phonies. ?The show is about honesty,? he says earnestly. But Howard?s honesty is not the honesty of, say, Oprah. Howard hates Oprah. Howard?s earliest professional instinct was to erase the line between private and public, which often mirrors the one separating discomfort and comfort. Howard says, ?Discomfort is something interesting to explore.? Starting, of course, with his own. His anal fissures? His ex-wife?s miscarriage? Howard wants you to know.

(Continued at link)

Personally I didn't even notice Billy West's departure.? Jackie leaving improved the show, I like Artie better.? Of course its just a matter of personal taste.


O&A had to abide by those FCC standards, and they were fired, remember?? They had to go to satellite to be left alone too.? As far as if they are better -? I can't stand them.? They used to be on the same station as Stern was so I would listen to them in the afternoon, and I thought they were pathetic.? They just sounded desperate to be outrageous.? You think Howard doesn't try hard enough, I say O&A tried way too hard to "outdo" Stern.? ?But I've never listened to Stern for his outrageous behavior, or playboy model interviews.? I listen for all the other stuff.? Which is why when someone tells me that Stern is all about? sex,? I know they haven't ever really listened.? Watching the E! show doesn't count.



You are correct about this.? But the threat has become real in the past year that the FCC will start fining individual broadcasters

Really?? I thought Billy was phenomenal on the show.? The Marge Schott bits are legendary.


Yeah, I obviously disagree.? Arties presence creates a very different, distinct dynamic to the show, but I dont prefer it to Jackies.



Yes, but the FCC didnt have much to do with it.? And my point in using them as an example was to illustrate that they did a great show under FCC scrutiny for years, just as Howard had done before 1997.


Again, I disagree.? And my qualm wasnt that Stern doesnt try hard enough to be outrageous, he doesnt try hard enough, period.? I dont like the outrageous stuff on either show, really.? Sometimes it works, but more often than not, I just dont find it funny or compelling.?

As for your criticism of O&A, I actually used to think the same.? As a loyal Stern fan, I wrote them off as imitators when they debuted in the summer of 2001 on WYSP in Philly.? But a month or so later, I could no longer deny their talent.? They were extremely clever and clearly passionate about doing good radio.? They werent the average corny, hack radio guys (see Howards new hire, Bubba The Love Sponge).? They had the same raw talent and energy Stern did in his prime.? And Stern mustve sensed something too, considering the behind-the-scenes vendetta he had with them...He imposed a gag order (so his name couldnt be mentioned on their show) and pulled rank to discourage guests from appearing on their show.? While Stern he created a legacy of destroying his rivals on-air,? he wouldnt even mention their names until they were off-the-air in 2002 and couldnt respond.? He even announced on-air that he wouldnt sign with whatever satellite company they worked and lied about it just a few days ago (from MarksFriggin.com: "Howard said that he was approached by both satellite companies and they told him that they'd avoid hiring Opie and Anthony if he meant that they could have him. Howard claims that he would never do that to anyone and stop them from being hired because he's had that done to him in the past."  In the past week, theyve been doing Sterns proposed "Tissue Time" bit (phone sex on the radio) to illustrate how lame it really is.

Basically, Howard turned into Imus...or at least the caricature of Imus that he created.

In fairness to Stern, satellite radio has allowed O&A to do a much better show (again I recommend at least checking them out with a free 3-day trial).? And while Ive said it will benefit his show, I dont think hell be returning anywhere near top-form.


Same here.? But the "outrageous" bits are lamer than ever: throwing baloney at girls, the "Robo Spanker," the tickle chair, and lamest of all: the Wheel of Sex.? "Its Just Wrong" is a bit more interesting, though.


Im aware, but it is just that: a threat.? And as Ive said, in my opinion Sterns show has declined greatly in the past 10 years, long before that theat became an issue.

From what I understand, hell only be doing 4 days a week on Sirius.? Also, hell probably be taking his usual 10 weeks of vacation on top of it.

I haven't heard that, and I've never counted how many vacation weeks he takes.  But I do wonder what they will play when he's on vacation, since they won't have all his "best of" tapes.

I didn't want to take the time to go back and quote the rest you said about O&A, only to caution you that you sound like you are parroting what they claim to be the truth.  And isn't that what you were criticizing D for?  I know for certain that Howard did talk about O&A before they were fired, and they talked about him.  I heard them both.  Who you want to believe is probably just in line with who you prefer to listen to.  Just as I probably can't convince you that O&A are full of shit, you probably can't convince me that they are any better than second rate Stern imitators. 

Stern actually admitted it the same day he used their names for the first time (in fact, I have it on cassette tape)...saying he told Mel Karmazin "to put a muzzle on those guys."? Its really common knowledge to those who follow radio at all.?


He talked about them, but referred to them only as "the clones" or "my imitators."? He would dump out when their names were mentioned by callers.

Yes, they talked about him...thats what led to the gag order.? Then they tried getting around it by referring to him as "Radio Edit."? That was soon squashed.? Then they signed a new contract in 2001 that supposedly gave them freedom to talk about him...that was circumvented by management telling them that while they could talk about him, WNEW Ken Stevens would punished, and possibly fired, as a result.? And the gag order extended past O&A and to everybody employed by Infinity.? Don & Mike (from Washington D.C. and syndicated to NY and Philly at the time) have also spoken about it.? Its no secret, and its not a talking point.? In fact, that reason Opie & Anthony waited so long to come back was to outlast a contract stipultation allowing an early buy-out on the condition they didnt talk about Infinity or Howard Stern.? Its what actually took place.? For a guy who built a reputation on taking on rivals and even trashing people on the same station (Imus, Soupy Sales, etc.), it seems pretty hypocritical to avoid referencing them directly and instead whine to Mel Karamazin to shut them up, doesnt it?

And he said it himself: "Ill go to whatever company doesnt Opie & Anthony."


Well, those who call O&A "Stern imitators" usually dont have much to back the claim.? In fact, theres more to suggest Stern has lifted from O&A in recent years.  Hes even played songs played on their actual show (http://afro202.com/archives/XM-Foundry/05102005_stern_rips_oa.mp3).

But the crucial difference between you and I is that while you are admittedly not familiar with the O&A show, Im very familiar with both.? So I dont really need convincing either way, - Im very knowledgeable of both.

I understand some of you already dislike the Opie & Anthony show, but heres a few of their best segments on XM Radio for those unfamiliar:

"Tony Danza Meets A Fan" (http://afro202.com/archives/XM-Foundry/11022004_outside_danza.mp3)

"Tony Danza Meets Another Fan" (http://afro202.com/archives/XM-Foundry/11042004_danzashow.mp3)

"Interview With Author Of "Everything You Know About Sex Is Wrong"" (http://afro202.com/archives/xm-oav/ONAXM-10-12-05-(Everything-You-Know-About-Sex-Is-Wrong).mp3)

"Interview With Writer From Coed Magazine" (Featuring Bill Burr from Chappelles Show and Lazlow from Grand Theft Auto; fast forward if you must, it changes a bit) (http://afro202.com/archives/xm-oav/ONAXM-09-20-05-(Julia-from-Coed-Mag).mp3)

"TV Edits" (http://afro202.com/archives/xm-oav/ONAXM-07-11-05-(tv-edit-examples).mp3)

"Jim Norton" (http://afro202.com/archives/XM-Foundry/10112004_norton_eruption.mp3)

And possibly my favorite segments from their old show:

"Crazy Irene": 1 (http://afro202.com/archives/raw/un-crazyirenecallp1.mp3)/ 2 (http://afro202.com/archives/raw/un-crazyirenecallp2.mp3)/ 3 (http://afro202.com/archives/raw/un-crazyirenecallp3.mp3)/4 (http://afro202.com/archives/raw/un-crazyirenecallp4.mp3)

"Anthony At The Movies" (http://afro202.com/archives/oa-bits/antatthemovies.mp3)

Do you work for O&A, Booker?  You really think anyone who likes Stern is going to hear your little clips and suddenly conver to O&A fans?  Why do you care, anyway?

No


I dont know what makes the clips "little," apart from your disingenuous condescension and inability to counter my previous post, but I think people who like Stern might like O&A...it might sound crazy, but Ive actually known a few people who like both.  Therefore, "conversion" isnt necessary.  So, no.


I brought them up and you called them "pathetic" and "Stern imitators."  Since I think they do a great show (far better than Sterns), I put up a few clips to let somebody else decide if they want to.  If somebody recommends a song similar to one they know I like, I dont ask why they "care," I check it out and decide for myself.

Stern has something no one else has...an ability to connect with his audience on a personal level. It is not just about shocking your audience. I've heard Opie and Anthony, they are not in the same league. As far as Stern being considered lame....Stern admits he can't do the material he was allowed to do 15 years ago due to the FCC. He'll either prove or disprove this when he goes to Sirius.

Its not that I can't counter your previous post, its just that there is no point.? You believe it, I don't.? You say its common knowledge, I disagree.? We could go around like that for a long time, but why bother?? I disagree with you on this, other than that, I usually consider you a pretty smart person.? (Though perhaps,? at least a little condescending).? But me calling anyone smart is? a compliment, since I consider most people to be idiots.



I actually ignored you bringing them up the first time or two, but it was only because you didn't drop it and kept trying to sell them that I finally responded.? I don't care who listens to O&A.? My opinion is that they aren't worth the time or the money.? And even though you said I wasn't familiar with them, I'll state again that I did listen to them, not one time, but as long as they were on the air in my area until they were finally fired.?

I said its common knowledge to those that follow radio, particulary NYC radio...and even to those who follow either show (or Ron and Fez/Don & Mike) closely.  So I dont expect casual fans to be aware of their history...if youre more than just a casual fan, then you probably just missed it.  But like I said, I actually have that Sept. 3, 2002 Stern show on tape, and he admitted to putting "a muzzle" on O&A.  You dislike O&A - its not even about them as much as it is about Sterns own hypocrisy, and even an O&A detractor can see that.  When Stern says plainly "Ill go to whichever company doesnt have Opie and Anthony," and then claim later that he would never do that to somebody because others did it to him, its typically hypocritical of him. 

However, most wont care about that and thats fine.  Youve only got a few weeks before he arrives at Sirius and I hope you enjoy the show.  :beer:

Why cant you like Opie and Anthony as well as Howard Stern?

I use to listen to John boy and billy and they were pretty funny it just seems like Booker that you are tryin to put down Stern to enhance O&A.

Those who like both can.


Nope.  Though I was still a fan, I noticed the decline before O&A came to Philly.  Its my opinion that hes declined steadily since and Ive stated why several times.  Its for those reasons that I stated that I dont care for his current show.

If I still liked Sterns show, Id be a fan of both...and being that I love his old show and was once a huge fan, I suppose I still am in some way.  O&A feuded bitterly with Don & Mike in early 2002 and it had no effect on my opinion of their show, which I listened to and somewhat enjoyed.  Trust me when I say I have no interest in "taking sides," I just dont like Sterns show very much anymore.  I still think that he is naturally very funny and it comes through sometimes.  Ill be listening for the first time in awhile this week when Jackie visits.   

Same 5 days a week (according to Sirrius, anyway) and same amount of vacation time (according to Stern).

It's CBS (and Infinity) company policy to not allow talent to trash other "personalities" or "talent" on air (or in interviews).? I'm not sure if that policy predates Stern or not.? Nor am I sure if some "talent" is kept on a shorter leash than others. IF the policy was in place, Stern MAY have been asking Mel to reign them in simply because Stern couldn't, without violating company policy, respond in kind.? Again, I know the policy, but am speculating about both parties reactions.

The contract buyout clause you're talking about is standard language, pretty much, in any buyout.

As for the "I'll go to whoever donesn't take O & A", a few things:?

First, He said the same thing about Bubba (who now works for him).?

Secondly, it makes good business sense. Why duplicate the same sort of show on the same platform?? It's not like radio, where every station is in competition on a given platform. They're all bundled by the same company.? Competition for the same sort of audience, on the same platfrom, would be assinine. You're paying almost double the production to fracture your audience. And O& A were looking for deals first....

Second, part of Howard's deal was "creative control" over his "station".? From a business perspective, O & A really would have "packaged" better, on the platform, with Howards material.? And I doubt Howard wanted them there.

Third, I KNOW for a fact that Howard negotiated with both platforms: XM and Sirrius.? The XM "deal" is almost infamous.? They had an entire package laid out, Howard was ready to sign, and they needed to get the deal approved from their BOD...who dragged their feet.? In the meantime, Sirrius put a comparable package on the table, Howard couldn't get a word out of the XM managment, so went with Sirrius.? There are people at XM who, more or less, give the same story.


I've heard both, know of both, and would pick Stern every day of the week and twice on Sunday.? Not, necessarily, because I think his show is better (I think the quality of both shows, when on broadcast, were pretty close..... since the move to satellite, I think O & A's show is better than Stern's....but am willing to bet that changes when Stern isn't handcuffed anymore), but because, from a personal preference standpoint, I like Stern more.

Stern has freely trashed Infinitys other star, Don Imus, for years and years.  So hes obviously not bound by any such policy.  While O&A were having their show dumped out on almost everytime Sterns name was used, Howard was suggesting that Imus' ranch operation might be a fraud.  And hes continued attacking him since (or at least he was when I stopped listening about a year and-a-half ago).  The fact is, nobody at Infinity (especially at the time, when Mel Karmazin was still in place) was stopping Stern from anything. 



I still dont really understand that move.  Stern obsesses over his imitators and hires one of the worst of the bunch? 

I cant recall him singling out Bubba the way he did O&A, and I doubt he did considering he doesnt have the same history with Bubba as he does O&A.  Being an "imitator" from Florida, Bubba was never really on Stens radar, except for a brief period in which Bubba syndicated somewhere up north and held a press conference to bash Stern...but even then Stern didnt seem to care much.  His history with O&A runs a lot deeper.


But isnt that what hes doing with Bubba, and whatever shows hes likely to hire?


Not necessarily.  Ron & Fez (who also do a fantastic show) are pretty different from O&A, but share a similar audience and both are featured on the same XM channel.  And a simple solution to that problem is to 1) Put O&A in a different time slot.  Assuming theyd contest that, and they most likelywould...2.) Do what XM currently does with O&As show, which is run replays throughout the day.  So those who feel conflicted over which show to listen to can listen to Howards show on his channel in the morning and catch the replay of O&As show anytime after.  After all, its not about ratings - its about subscriptions, and both will draw their own audiences.
 
Ultimately, its not the fact that Stern refused to work for the same company as O&A, its the hypocrisy in blatantly saying that before sigining, and pretending to be humble afterward by saying that he would never do such a thing (especially considering the power plays he pulled at Infinity).  Its hypocritical to paint Imus as a jerk in Private Parts and have essentially the same attitude when the new company upstarts arrive (and they were obviously being groomed as Sterns heir apparents).
 

I know Howard says that, but dont you think the real reason is the fact that Sirius was willing to pay him half-a-billion dollars?  XM simply was never going to pay him anything close to that (I believe $30 million a year was their offer).  And then theres the Mel Karmazin factor, as well as the O&A factor. 


Im glad to finally hear that somebody thinks they put on a good show.  As for your personal preference, I understand.  After listening to someone like him for so long (and watching his TV shows, reading his books, watching his movie, etc.), you definitely feel some kind of connection.  I just cant get into his show anymore, and hearing about his ideas for satelliite (Phone sex, Dial-A-Date, "Who Wants To Fuck A Pornstar" - which I thought hes been doing), Im not interested. 

By the way, do you have XM?

See my comments about who is kept on a shorter leash, etc.? It IS company policy,though.


He said the exact same thing about Bubba, when Bubba got "fired" and said he was gonna look for a Sat deal.? Verbatim.


Nope, different time slot and Howard has complete creative control.


Again, Howard wouldn't have allowed them on "his" channel. O & A would not have allowed Howard to have complete creative control. I doubt they would have wanted to give up the "morning drive" slot, too.? So you're left with putting them on different channels.? So you pay twice the production costs for a very similar, if not homogonized, audience.? Not good business sense.? At least not for my money.? And lets face it, even when O & A were at their height in broadcast syndication, they didn't pull the sheer overall national numbers that Stern pulled (and still pulls) in....
 

The story doesn't just come from Howard.? And I've heard the reported XM amount was double the quote you're giving (60 - 65 million a year) which makes sense considering his current salary, with Infinity, is about 30.1 million a year (salary.com reports as do other sources).? And the Sirrius deal, reported at 100 million a year, is, according to Howard and others, a bit north of reality.? That 100 million is not just compensation (salary, incentives, stock, etc) but production and operating costs (the smoking gun, as well as other sites, report this).? So, the gaps in "bundles of cash" offered up aren't that far apart.?

Howard insists he had no idea that Mel was negotiating with Sirrius while doing his deal.? Mel says the same thing (that Howard didn't know he was also negotiating with Sirrius.? Mel, of course, knew about Howards negotiating and deal).? I've no reason to suspect they're being disingenious.? And, from an SEC standpoint, they really can't be, as that kind of disclosure could bring some heavy sanctions.

But the point is, the agreement was done in principle.? Again, not just according to Howard.? XM just dragged their feet.? Sirrius THEN contacted him and when he couldn't get a word from XM management, he figured the deal was dead.? So he began entertaining offers from Sirrius.? He may have SAID he wouldn't work at the same company, but, lets face it, Howard, like O & A, SAY lots of outrageous things.? AND he was in good faith negotiations with XM, who already had O&A.


First, I've only been really listening to Howard since the mid to late 90's, when he "premiered" in our market.? There's only one rock station, really, here...and he became the morning guy.? In addition, while I've seen Private Parts, I've never read the book.? I've watched, total, MINUTES of the E show (too late for me...I've got 2 kids and am out the door by 6 AM).? My "thing" with Howard is just that I prefer his schtick, and I relate to him a bit more, than I do O & A (who are talented entertainers, no question).

Nope, no XM.? Friends have it, so I've heard a bunch of the "new" version of O & A on morning drives and/or replays.? I did a trial of it about 6 months ago via PC, just after doing the same for Sirrius, just to see what I thought of it.? Fundamentally....I couldn't see a difference between their products.?

My Sirrius package is wrapped and under the tree, as we speak.

John Boy & Billy suck. They play from the same 50 song playlist theyve used for 15 years and have a totally unrealistic laugh track they play whenever one of them finishes a sentence. And Andy Griffith was not the greatest show ever.

How do you all think Stern will fare on Sirus? Will this be the begining of the end? Or the start of a new chapter?

well he won't have 12 milliion fans like k rock but he will have  afew million to follow and curiousity alone...

I enjoyed his last show yesterday, I practicallly teared up when the crow was going nuts for him

I've never head any O and A before. Thanks Booker. The Danza stuff is funny  :hihi:

Glad to hear you liked it.  :beer:

Was it Opie doing the impression? Just him going "a noice biig blooowjoob" had me in stitches  :rofl:

The old lady hadn't a fuck what hit her!

Nope, that was Anthony.  He does a lot of great impressions.  Jim Norton is the one with the raspy voice and Opies the other one.

From what Ive heard, howard stern redeemed himself.

I have heard that his show is absolutely hilarious and insane now.


So I think his show got stale due to the sanctions,censors and fines.


he is back and better than ever.

I'll stick with Roth.

And this is based on second-hand accounts? 

The fact that you would make such a grandiose statement without hearing the broadcast really says all that I need to know (in fact, it probably says a lot about your appreciation for Bill O'Reilly as well).

I've only heard the two shows, obviously.  And I haven't noticed any huge changes.  George Takai is actually a pretty funny addition, but that's just for this week.  Its going to take time to really judge if there is any major difference to his show.  I've enjoyed the first two shows, but I was a big Stern fan anyway. 

His show got stale long before that, in my opinion. I used to listen to him when he first came on in NY, his show for most of the last 10 years has been a daily re-run as far as content goes.

There is a station down here in Florida, WZZR, that is all talk from 6am until 11pm. They had to face the same sanctions, censors, and for a few of the shows, some fines as well. However they were able to adjust and come up with new ideas and roll with the punches. The shows arent as crude as they used to be but they still manage to be entertaining and the only time you actually get the feeling that you've "heard this before" is if the show is an actual re-run.

Did Howard pave the way for these shows? Hell yes. Every person that does his type of talk show should drop to their knees and bow in the direction of Howards studio before they start their shift each day. However Howard has not been able to adjust with the times and has become a figurative dinosaur in talk radio. He has been living off of his reputation for quite some time now. Just my opinion.

watch it, u are getting awfully close to breaking the rules.

My brother and I have the same taste, he listens every morning and told me the highlights of the show and it sounded amazing. The whole guy who impersonates David Letterman.

Sounded like it was great from the way he described it.

Im only stating that u said the sanctions and fines from the FCC had no affect on his show and I simply stated it did and had some influence with makin the show grow stale.

Now the chains are off, From what ive heard, it kicks fuckin ass!

im gonna get a Sirius radio, *im poor so ill have to put one in layaway or something* but Im gonna get it so i can listen.

the david letterman piece was stomach hurting funny. totally hilarious.

the self promoting of himself and sirius was at an all time high the first two days, which was boring and annoying.

but i was and still am a fan of the show. i think it will be slightly better on sirius, but hopefully they continue to do the things that made me fan in the first place.

I was listening to the david letterman thing in my office and had to turn it off for fear someone would walk in. 

Today they were saying that starting next week they'll start getting back to some of the games and stuff that they've had to stop doing- like "Its Just Wrong."

I've been a big listener for years (thanks to my dad). My First R rated movie was Private Parts when I was 8 years old for god sakes. My dad got a Sirius radio and I've been listening to Howard 100 quite a bit.

I enjoy the new show, although it's not completely revolutionary or everything, it's nice to hear without the dump button and George Takei is friggin hillarious (Oh my!).  It definately is a higher quality show and I enjoyed hearing the Pat O Brien tapes unedited.

I'm Austrian, I don't give a sh*t!

Stern is awesome. The way he does things being open and honest makes the audience feel like they know him.

i thought that people liked stern because of the naked girls and the titty talks ?

That's not all of what the show is about

Howard = Sexy   :drool:

No, but that's a common misconception.  Especially for people who haven't heard the show on a regular basis, and have just seen the E Show. 

If you're a Stern fan,
And if you have Sirius,
You'll know what I mean.

I missed some today
And find out it was ARTIE
Who revealed himself

The recipient
Of some guy's load on his chest!!!
What was the story????? :nervous:


Splash

/Mike

I missed the whole show today.   :(  So if anyone heard and can tell me all the revelations, I'd really appreciate it. 

Anyone looking for Stern show recaps can find them here:

www.marksfriggin.com


I was away last week at a conference, so only heard the shows yesterday and today.  The Revelation stuff (which was pretty much most of the show) was just awesome.  The rest of the show was pretty damn good, too.

So far it's pretty good stuff.  But he has a lot of pent up material right now.  The question is can he stay interesting for a year or more...  I think he probably can, but we'll have to wait and see.

Do you really want to hear the story behind that?   :hihi:

I have 2 Sanyo Sirius Recievers with car and home kits and a 2 year US subscription that will be hooked to them upon payment. I am selling them separate and live in Canada.  If anyone wants the Stern show without the need for a US address and account and lives in Canada - PM me.  I can send photos.  This is all at cost and not a dollar more.

I gotta say, those revelations weren't that interesting.  Artie's was pretty funny, and Howard's was also somewhat interesting.  The rest were either boring or just stupid.

And so it begins............
From todays New York Post:
January 23, 2006 -- Howard Stern may be coming down with a Sirius case of the bleeps.
High-level executives of the satellite broadcaster are developing an internal standards-and-practices document that will set boundaries for Stern and other shock jocks, The Post has learned.

?It?s something that?s being taken very seriously," a Sirius source said.

Stern's new show also is being broadcast on a time-delay, giving him the opportunity to censor the program ? which he already has done.

Stern moved to Sirius in part because satellite-radio services such as Sirius and XM ? unlike free terrestrial radio ? are not policed by the FCC, which spent years waging an indecency war against him.

The battle resulted in big-bucks fines against Stern and his former employers at Viacom.

XM, which is now home to shock jocks Opie and Anthony, confirmed that it has had its own guidelines in place for some time, but declined to provide details.

The standards of the private satellite broadcasters can be far looser than those imposed by the FCC on the public airways.

Sirius' move toward self-censorship comes as pressure continues to mount in Congress to regulate programming on cable and satellite radio and TV.

For years, cable executives have resisted government threats of regulation, claiming that self-policing has been sufficient.

It's a move satellite radio seems to be getting ready to emulate.

But even with Stern safely out of the FCC's reach, his foes, including self-appointed anti-obscenity crusaders like John B. Thompson, argue that other government agencies should take up the cause.

"The DOJ [Department of Justice] now has the chance to make amends for its laxity during Stern's criminal conduct on terrestrial radio for 25 years," the Florida lawyer wrote to Bruce Taylor, who oversees the DOJ's Criminal Division in a Jan. 9 letter obtained by The Post. Meanwhile, Stern himself has asked for some restraint on his show, encouraging his staff not to use profanity too often.

On one occasion last week, Stern even "dumped" out a minor bit of his own broadcast to protect the identity of a staff member's family.

On Stern's old show, the dump switch was controlled by station officials, who frequently bleeped out racy material.

It's not clear whether Stern knew he'd be subject to any limitations when he signed on with Sirius, which is paying him about $100 million a year.

He also was awarded $220 million in stock after the company reported that it had signed up more than 3 million new subscribers, boosting its total to 3.3 million. XM has more than 6 million subscribers.

Sirius officials did not return calls for comment on the proposal.

The imposition of loose standards is not likely to put much of a dent into Stern's free-for-all broadcasts or scare off any of his advertisers, an expert said.

"I believe this is just an attempt to put things in place if and when [the government] turns up the heat on satellite radio, much like it has with cable from time to time," said Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University.

"In the end, it won't mean much to the average listener or advertiser."

Advertisers are paying less for Stern's spots on Sirius than they did for his show on traditional radio ? especially since there is no way to verify how many Sirius subscribers are tuning in to his show.

Sources said it may be as little as half of the $20,000 per 30-second spot that had been floated when he signed up.

Howard Stern's departure from terrestrial radio has proved to be a boon to those he left behind.

While the shock jock appears to have attracted over 1 million subscribers to Sirius Satellite Radio Inc., many analysts and consultants believe the exodus is starting to slow with many of the remaining 8 million Stern fans staying tuned to terrestrial radio, listening to his former competitors.

"They have scattered to other places. In a lot of cases other morning shows have benefited. Howard's going away is something that other morning shows have prayed for for years," said Tom Taylor, editor of Inside Radio, a radio publication and database service owned by Clear Channel Communications Inc. , the nation's largest radio operator.

Radio rating company Arbitron Inc. is set to release ratings data on April 26 covering the period from just after Stern left terrestrial radio, in January 2006, through March.

But interim Arbitron data has shown slippage at some of Stern's former CBS Corp. stations in key markets, where he was replaced by former Van Halen frontman     David Lee Roth on the East Coast and comic Adam Carolla on the West Coast.

A Jacobs Media poll of more than 25,000 listeners of 79 rock stations across the country indicates that 7 out of 10 former Stern listeners continue to listen to terrestrial morning radio shows.

A smaller sampling of five former Stern affiliate stations indicates that about 3 out of 10 listeners are now tuning into competing, established morning shows rather than Stern's replacements.

"Some shows are in a better position to attract and retain Stern's listeners than others," said Fred Jacobs, president of the radio consulting firm that conducted the survey.

"We've had a number of clients who absolutely strategized on how to attract former Stern listeners," he said, noting that Greater Media Inc.'s Philadelphia station WMMR ran billboards in the last months of Stern's terrestrial run, stating that no subscription was required for listeners to tune its morning "Preston & Steve" show.

One former Stern affiliate station that appears to be emerging as a big winner is Entercom Communications Corp.'s KISW-FM in Seattle with its "B.J. Shea" show, according to Jacobs.

Other industry experts also noted that National Public Radio has attracted Stern listeners because it appeals more to his ribald talk show's fan base than say, conservative talk shows. Other listeners are finding new alternatives.

"NPR stations have benefited. I think all kinds of other stations are benefiting, while other listeners have plugged in their iPods and taken along CDs and are listening more online," said Taylor.

To be sure, Sirius says the Stern factor in boosting its paid subscriptions is far from over. Its subscribers have jumped from 700,000 in October 2004 when Stern first announced his defection to satellite, which took place in January 2006, to 4 million by mid-March.

"We think that Howard Stern is going to add subscribers every single day. Obviously for the 20 years that he was with his prior employer, he created value for them every single year and we obviously fully expect that to continue going forward," said Mel Karmazin, Sirius' chief executive officer, during the company's fourth-quarter earnings conference call in February.

"The idea that it's only going to effect fourth-quarter or first-quarter is lame. I think that this is something that is going to continue throughout the five years at least of his (Howard's) contract," he said.

But various analysts are assuming the Stern effect on subscriptions is beginning to dissipate.

"I think the Stern momentum has largely played itself out and will probably kick in again Christmas, but the big ramp that was associated with Stern coming is probably over," said David Bank, analyst at RBC Capital Markets.

Source: Yahoo News

The $15 per month is well worth it, not just because of Stern. How would you like to hear good music commercial free, not just what sells with 15 minuted of commercials every hour.

The start of the article says he attracted only 1 million subscribers, when its more like over 3 million.  And people are still having trouble buying the radios and getting them activated.

Other than that, what did they think people would do?  If they don't switch to satellite, they are going to look for something to listen to, not just give up the radio.

And I agree, Sirius is worth the price.  I've had mine well over a year and I can't stand listening to regular radio anymore.

I can't stand radio, period.

I have a nice system in my car and a stereo that plays data discs.? I just compile CD's of 70-80 songs and hit the road.? Got my Ozzy mix kickin' in there right now.  All the good stuff from Sabbath and Blizzard of Ozz to Down To Earth. : ok:

Me neither......it's garbage.

Maybe over there, but in England we have some great DJ's (again, I use the term DJ in it's loosest sense.......). Chris Moyles is a god!

Well one of the big problems here (aside from the extensive commercials) is that most stations have very limited playlists.  So if you listen for an hour, you've heard every song they will play all day long.  It gets old fast, at least for me. 

And I can't remember the last time I heard a good DJ on regular radio.  Especially with censorship being out of control the way it is right now, they are pretty limited on what they can say.

Man, that's crazy. Because of licence fees, all of our BBC Radio is advert free.

Hey srry if this is already a thread but i couldnt find it . I was wondering how many howard stern fans there are in this forum?, Anything funny ud like to share anything ? .  : ok:

I like Howard... But havent head more than 10 mins at a time since he went to sirius....