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Title: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: The_Wretched on March 20, 2007, 10:06:11 AM
http://music.msn.com/music/features/crazyalbum?GT1=9185


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Nytunz on March 20, 2007, 10:09:14 AM
What a dumbass.. There are so many journalists that dont have a clue what they wright about...


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on March 20, 2007, 10:12:33 AM
This could stop.... If Axl would release the album...

Its ok tho... MSN will have GNR on their front page very soon  : ok:


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: GypsySoul on March 20, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
Atleast they used a good pic of Axl

(http://entimg.msn.com/i/mu/single_leads/axlRose_cr_AshleyMaile_Retna.jpg)


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: monkey in a boat on March 20, 2007, 10:14:27 AM
Ah it's not that bad, it's not a cheap shot. Read it in context, the whole article is written with tongue firmly in cheek...


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: JB9988 on March 20, 2007, 10:21:08 AM
All those fuckers bashing axl now will be begging for an interview soon, or putting up all the news to get more fucking hits. People will drag anything way out of proportion for a buck these days.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Gunner17 on March 20, 2007, 10:22:15 AM
Good article and to be honest with you, what the hell do you expect journalists to write? "Well it was only a tentative release date so I'm going to defend Axl, the same person who has been working on an album for over a decade." Journalist know, just like all other media outlets, that people do not want to spend an hour reading over the history of Guns N' Roses/Chinese Democracy and why it has not been released. Even though poking fun at Axl may seem like the easy way out, it is the way it is always going to be until the album is released........And at that point, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of, "We waited for this?"


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: FunkyMonkey on March 20, 2007, 10:28:52 AM
Great pic of Axl and...

Craziness Factor: We'll go out on a limb and say, on a scale of one to 10, this will be a 45.

I'll take it : ok:



Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Dalshime on March 20, 2007, 10:30:24 AM
I agree that it's not that bad. It is written tongue and cheeck, and honestly, at this point, you have to have a sense of humor over this whole thing or it's just too much for any sane person to take.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Skeletor on March 20, 2007, 10:37:32 AM
As long as they're still writing about GNR, it's all good...


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: JDA on March 20, 2007, 10:45:37 AM
That's not bad.  They are right.  Nothing this long can be worth the wait.  I just hope CD is released and there is actually another one a year later.  If not, Axl will be 60 when the next album comes out.  I want like 7 albums in the next 15 yrs.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: PhillyRiot on March 20, 2007, 10:56:21 AM
All those fuckers bashing axl now will be begging for an interview soon, or putting up all the news to get more fucking hits. People will drag anything way out of proportion for a buck these days.


How soon will they be begging for an interview?  Soon is never the word.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Randy Jesus on March 20, 2007, 10:59:43 AM
I don't think they are trashing GNR and Axl, just reporting on the situation. They admitted it could be great. It was a fair article. I think they might be more of supporting them than anything. Look at that great picture of Axl. The never comment was just a joke about the time it has took.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: damnthehaters on March 20, 2007, 11:07:17 AM
It is kind of a joke you know  ;)

Even when they finally release it, people will look back and still think the whole process was a joke.  Seriously, who takes this long to put out an album?


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: michaelvincent on March 20, 2007, 11:16:52 AM
If you don't see that the entire article is pretty much written as  joke then you probably grew up near power lines or something because you aren't that bright.

And when you get down to it, it's still pretty spot on. You haven't been paying much attention to the CD saga if you don't think this album is the crazy one.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: sic. on March 20, 2007, 11:44:14 AM
I fail to see any standard bashing here.

It could not possibly be worth the wait

No album is worth 15 years of wait. There's too much other music in the world to pick from.

it might not be as bad as everyone expects

They're ready to give a benefit of doubt. Fair enough.

regardless, there is no way in the world it is not the Crazy Album.

I'd really like to hear how someone'd prove it otherwise.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Bodhi on March 20, 2007, 11:54:51 AM
I thought it was funny...they scored the highest on the crazy scale!! : ok:


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: crazycheryl on March 20, 2007, 11:56:52 AM
I take this article with a grain of salt. They are actually giving GNR and Axl press. All fans like to think their band is crazy. And the writer is actually right, this is a crazy off the chart. My only hope is the CD is released before they start the shows.

Also, I guess my crew could be considered crazy because we used to walk around downtown Chicago with KFC chicken buckets on our head too. Just to be crazy. Didn't know we would start a trend as this happened like 20 years ago. Damn you ?buckethead. All I had to do was pick up a guitar.

Guess we're crazy too for waiting and hoping.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: kollemann on March 20, 2007, 12:05:00 PM
1000 % agree with the article.Chinese Democracy the running gag....


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: spyder8739 on March 20, 2007, 12:09:12 PM
 But still, including the fact that March 6th was tentative would make it seem less of a big deal... That's a big fact that has been left out of every Axl bashing article I've read since then.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Bartlet on March 20, 2007, 12:12:11 PM
"It could not possibly be worth the wait, and it might not be as bad as everyone expects".

This, especially the 2nd point, is what everyone forgets about C.D. Just thought I'd point that out.

Although I do accept that many will say that it justifies the wait when it comes out, I would contend that many of those people will have listened with their emotions, and not with their ears.


MODIFICATION - sorry sic., I seem to have missed your post.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Chris55 on March 20, 2007, 12:12:51 PM
What a dumbass.. There are so many journalists that dont have a clue what they wright about...

Says the guy who misspelled "write"

:)


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: The_Wretched on March 20, 2007, 12:14:13 PM
What a dumbass.. There are so many journalists that dont have a clue what they wright about...

Says the guy who misspelled "write"

:)

wish i saw that first.... lol....  :rofl:


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: kollemann on March 20, 2007, 12:15:34 PM
The only Thing Axl Rose must do is to release the album......


Title: Big CD Mention at MSN Music "The Crazy Album"
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on March 20, 2007, 12:24:04 PM
http://music.msn.com/music/features/crazyalbum?GT1=9185

Actually, a nice recent pic of Axl for a change!!!  A 45!   :rofl:


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: 2NaFish on March 20, 2007, 12:24:28 PM
i dont understand the whole, its not worth the wait thing.

how can something not be worth the wait if you dont actually invest any time/effort/money/etc in it. people involved in it can say they're bored of waiting for it to come out and walk away (bucket) but fans and critics are involved through interest only.

whatever we get is simply a bonus, axl owes us nothing. the record label he owes a bit (13mil) but nothing to us.


Title: Re: Big CD Mention at MSN Music "The Crazy Album"
Post by: BurningHills on March 20, 2007, 12:28:37 PM
Ha..that was actually pretty entertaining!  : ok:


Title: Re: Big CD Mention at MSN Music "The Crazy Album"
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on March 20, 2007, 12:29:42 PM
sorry, I didn't see it was already posted.  Please delete this mods.  Axl rules.   :beer:


Title: Re: Big CD Mention at MSN Music "The Crazy Album"
Post by: gnr_12 on March 20, 2007, 12:33:47 PM
45 out of 10 lol.. wicked...

BTW this is in another thread..


Title: Re: Big CD Mention at MSN Music "The Crazy Album"
Post by: helmet0111 on March 20, 2007, 12:34:43 PM
(http://entimg.msn.com/i/mu/single_leads/axlRose_cr_AshleyMaile_Retna.jpg)

cool pic : ok:


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: DirtySanchez on March 20, 2007, 12:39:25 PM
i like the "crazy album" concept. it makes you think about which albums might be the "crazy album" in band's catalogues and i always think it's great to re-evaluate and look at music from new perspectives. keeps it fresh.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: gangs_n_robbers on March 20, 2007, 12:47:17 PM
i dont know why people here complain about axl bashing...hes been working on an album for 13 years that keeps getting pushed back, why wouldn't they bash him?


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: SterileEyes on March 20, 2007, 12:51:32 PM
This could stop.... If Axl would release the album...

Ding ding ding!  : ok:

...and what is so offensive about this article?

It says that it is most likely better than most people think it will be. Is someone bothered by that?


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: michaelvincent on March 20, 2007, 12:51:40 PM
Because people seem to want to defend Axl Rose's behavior as perfectly normal.

I think he is one of the more talented musicians of the last 20 or so years, but the guy his batshit crazy insane, no doubt. 13 years to make an album is crazy no matter how you slice it up.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 20, 2007, 01:04:25 PM
It obviously was a joke, not to get bent out of shape over.


Title: Re: Big CD Mention at MSN Music "The Crazy Album"
Post by: acompleteunknown on March 20, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
There really are a lot of people talking about this album.  I can't remember the band getting this much press in a long time.  And there's no such thing as bad press.


Title: Re: Big CD Mention at MSN Music "The Crazy Album"
Post by: DuffRock on March 20, 2007, 01:18:05 PM
There really are a lot of people talking about this album.  I can't remember the band getting this much press in a long time.  And there's no such thing as bad press.

its true

and i've never said this before but....

Chinese Democracy starts now!

 : ok:


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: SLCPUNK on March 20, 2007, 01:20:28 PM
Any press is good press......


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: 25 on March 20, 2007, 01:35:34 PM
Any press is good press......
Unless you're Michael Jackson. Some press is bad press.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Timothy on March 20, 2007, 01:37:49 PM
Any press is good press......
Unless you're Michael Jackson. Some press is bad press.


Or the people who made that Jersey Girl flick.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: 25 on March 20, 2007, 01:42:39 PM
Or the people who made that Jersey Girl flick.
Kevin Smith only gets bad press. In his case, any press is bad press.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Axlrose4eva on March 20, 2007, 01:44:45 PM
Its not worth 13 years, it cost Axl his prime.
Most people think its going to be awful, in fact most reviews i saw for Better (granted its unfinished) were negative.

This article was funny, it pretty much is saying that its the type of album that you dont know what will come of it.  Its not formulaic in any way.  In my opinion thats actually a compliment.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: Timothy on March 20, 2007, 01:47:44 PM
Or the people who made that Jersey Girl flick.
Kevin Smith only gets bad press. In his case, any press is bad press.

dude that whole movie got bad press.

Not all of homeboys press is bad.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: 25 on March 20, 2007, 01:51:07 PM


dude that whole movie got bad press.

Not all of homeboys press is bad.

Yeah, it is. The best reviews Smith gets are still covered with disclaimers, "It's good, for a dick-joke movie!"

The whole movie got bad press because it stars Affleck. He's another bad press magnet.

Now we're up to three! Sometimes bad press is just bad press.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: freddiebrph on March 20, 2007, 02:03:16 PM
i dont understand the whole, its not worth the wait thing.

how can something not be worth the wait if you dont actually invest any time/effort/money/etc in it. people involved in it can say they're bored of waiting for it to come out and walk away (bucket) but fans and critics are involved through interest only.

whatever we get is simply a bonus, axl owes us nothing. the record label he owes a bit (13mil) but nothing to us.

This is a good post. Except for the overuse of the stupid axl owes us nothing thing. I agree with 2na, how can we say or anyone if it was worth the wait. Gnr gave us some great music, some time went by (in this case, alot of time) then another album came out. The day it finally gets here, is your life really going to change? No, the same problems of the world will still be here, we can just listen to a new gnr album, thats all. I am sure if Axl really wanted to release 10 albums now, he could have. People act like he has been working on this all these years, I dont really think so.


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: slashsbaconpit on March 20, 2007, 02:03:24 PM
I agree that it's not that bad. It is written tongue and cheeck, and honestly, at this point, you have to have a sense of humor over this whole thing or it's just too much for any sane person to take.

I agree. This whole thing with "Those Fuckers in the press are gonna be sorry when CD finally is released" thing is getting old. This guy wasn't saying anything bad about God Axl, he was just poking some good natured fun at the situation.

GNR is well deserving of some criticism after all the times we've been told "CD is almost done, here's the CD World Tour, oh wait, we're cancelling the rest of tour, we don't owe anyone shit, the album will happen when it happens, if it happens. It's almost done!"


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: redx on March 20, 2007, 02:08:22 PM
All in all, quite a funny read  ;D


Title: Inside Music : The Crazy Album
Post by: Wingman17 on March 20, 2007, 02:15:55 PM
Here's a  link to an article on MSN.

http://music.msn.com/music/features/crazyalbum?GT1=9185


Title: Re: Inside Music : The Crazy Album
Post by: spyder8739 on March 20, 2007, 02:16:36 PM
its been posted 3 times already  :-\


Title: Re: Inside Music : The Crazy Album
Post by: Wingman17 on March 20, 2007, 02:17:37 PM
Sorry


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: DirtySanchez on March 20, 2007, 03:20:05 PM
Most people think its going to be awful, in fact most reviews i saw for Better (granted its unfinished) were negative.
probably been posted, but the review of Better in the last issue rolling stone (not that i care about their opinion) was mostly postitive. they said the different style guitar solos sounded disjointed but over all i believe the quote was something like "the most kick ass GnR song ever".


Title: Re: Yet another "Chinese Democracy" cheap shot....
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 20, 2007, 03:30:02 PM
Sorry, but any album that takes as long as Chinese Democracy has taken and still not come out is justified in being mocked, or taking cheap shots at :hihi:

Just cause it's Axl people feel the need toi be his defence attorney.....Axl may get the last laugh but until CD is released, we'll never know :-[