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Title: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: guns_n_roses on March 15, 2007, 10:21:06 AM
okay so im up about an hour before i hit wendys cause i work there... and im takin' a look at YCBM lyrics
and i slowed down to actually read the best part the "while youre breakin down my back, and i been rackin out my brain" yadda yadda so forth.

I realized something, that part is talkin about heavy drugs which makes the song all make sense.

You can push it for more milage
but your flaps are wearin thin? - sound like a drug relation

dont forget to call my lawyers with ridiculous demands?- sounds like axls takin a swing at someone Adler lol

'Cause this couchtrip's gettin' older
Tell me how long has it been
Cause 5 years is forever                 
and you havent grown up yet

---- now think about that.. a couch trip... a BAD trip.. someones sick of witnessing these trips and then the 5 years thing is self explanitory... sound right?

Im probably gonna get chewed up because i even posted it but meh.. take swings motherfuckers   :beer: tell me what you think besides im an idiot because im well aware.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: ChrisPittman on March 15, 2007, 10:34:02 AM
I think this song is about his wife, and also about some of Axl's friends from LA (like West Arkeen) who were addicted to drugs and just couldnt get off the couch


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: SumbodyElse on March 15, 2007, 10:50:04 AM
I think "couchtrip" is a referance to therapy.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: guns_n_roses on March 15, 2007, 10:58:26 AM
I think "couchtrip" is a referance to therapy.

really, how so?


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: rockerroller on March 15, 2007, 11:10:28 AM
This song was written by Izzy and Axl about Izzy's failed relationship with Angela Nicoletti. Izzy wrote the music and many of the lyrics.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 15, 2007, 11:15:18 AM
I always thought the song was about a relationship, not drugs.
Couchtrip: refers to therapy because you lie on a couch and talk during your session. So it's a couch trip.

Now  go out there and flip them burgers. I love Wendys! : ok:


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: 2NaFish on March 15, 2007, 11:20:42 AM
don't think so dood. its about a chick, not drugs. still even if it was, stating that 'its about drugs' is hardly unravelling a song. go do a literature course and come back and tell us what the video for estranged means.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: NicoRourke on March 15, 2007, 11:26:06 AM
This song was written by Izzy and Axl about Izzy's failed relationship with Angela Nicoletti. Izzy wrote the music and many of the lyrics.

I thought it was about Erin Everly ???


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Neemo on March 15, 2007, 11:29:49 AM
you guys know that YCBM was almost on AFD right? makes it written in about '84-'86...prolly an old GF or somethin. maybe the chick that both izzy and axl were in love with?

def not Adler or Arkeen or Everly

This song was written by Izzy and Axl about Izzy's failed relationship with Angela Nicoletti. Izzy wrote the music and many of the lyrics.

this is prolly right


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: 2NaFish on March 15, 2007, 11:33:37 AM
This song was written by Izzy and Axl about Izzy's failed relationship with Angela Nicoletti. Izzy wrote the music and many of the lyrics.

I thought it was about Erin Everly ???

nope. spend the next few hours on this site and you'll learn a few things you wont have known.

http://www.gnrinfo.tk/


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: SINSHINE on March 15, 2007, 11:45:51 AM
I think "couchtrip" is a referance to therapy.

Bingo! A psychological therapy session is commonly referred to as a 'couch trip'. Not sure why, but I always assumed it meant because the patient spends most of the time lying on the traditional 'couch' in a 'traditional' psychologist's office pouring out his/her heart.



Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: 2NaFish on March 15, 2007, 11:53:30 AM
I think "couchtrip" is a referance to therapy.

Bingo! A psychological therapy session is commonly referred to as a 'couch trip'. Not sure why, but I always assumed it meant because the patient spends most of the time lying on the traditional 'couch' in a 'traditional' psychologist's office pouring out his/her heart.

(http://www.twosistersantiques.com/divan.jpg)

A traditional psychiatrist's fainting couch (i'd have gone for a plain black leather finish, but each to his own)


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Crowebar on March 15, 2007, 12:44:11 PM
This song was written by Izzy and Axl about Izzy's failed relationship with Angela Nicoletti. Izzy wrote the music and many of the lyrics.

I thought it was about Erin Everly ???

nope. spend the next few hours on this site and you'll learn a few things you wont have known.

http://www.gnrinfo.tk/

Interesting and quite insightful.  :yes:

That link is dead though and actually takes you to gnrsource.com man.   : ok:


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: GNRforever10 on March 15, 2007, 12:45:03 PM
The song is completly about drug experiences in 3rd person perspective meaning the heroin speaking to the individual just like the last verse of Coma. Listen and understand metaphors here-

I'm a cold heartbreaker fit to ''burn'' an I'll rip your heart in two and leave you ''lying'' on the bed. Basically how the drugs have a hold of whoevers life and you can't seem to shake it off at the time. Drugs destroy relationships and cause a heartbreak because by the time you ''Wake'' up and realize to get clean you have dragged your better half down with you to no turning back therefore it is a repetitive cycle and ''With the bitch slap rappin-maening banging heroin and cocaine tongue-meaning having that taste for the life of coke ''You get nothing done!''

Good lyrics


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Neemo on March 15, 2007, 12:49:25 PM
The song is completly about drug experiences in 3rd person perspective meaning the heroin speaking to the individual just like the last verse of Coma. Listen and understand metaphors here-

I'm a cold heartbreaker fit to ''burn'' an I'll rip your heart in two and leave you ''lying'' on the bed.

or he'll just fuck the chick and leave her


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: John Galt on March 15, 2007, 12:56:46 PM
The song is completly about drug experiences in 3rd person perspective meaning the heroin speaking to the individual just like the last verse of Coma. Listen and understand metaphors here-

I'm a cold heartbreaker fit to ''burn'' an I'll rip your heart in two and leave you ''lying'' on the bed.

or he'll just fuck the chick and leave her

and hence in some live versions the ad lib "with your ass in the air" is added


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: me2u838 on March 15, 2007, 01:04:25 PM
it definitely has to do with drugs. "with your bitch slap rappin and your cocaine tongue"

anyone ever notice this lyric is written in the sleave of AFD.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: me2u838 on March 15, 2007, 01:06:38 PM
meant to say it ALSO has to do with drugs but how many guns songs aren't haha


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Crowebar on March 15, 2007, 01:10:31 PM
anyone ever notice this lyric is written in the sleave of AFD.

Hence, the proof that it almost made it on Appetite.   :yes:



Written by: "You Could Be Mine" was written by Axl and Izzy. Izzy wrote the music, and Axl and Izzy wrote the lyrics together.
Written in: "You Could Be Mine" was probably written in 1987.

Written about: According to Axl, "You Could Be Mine" was written about Izzy's ex-girlfriend Angela.


http://www.gnrinfo.tk/


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: GNRforever10 on March 15, 2007, 01:19:37 PM
Thanks so it has something to do with a relationship but there is no doubt that the song goes into deep about drugs and most likely Angela was pretty messed up on junk and coke and I like how the lyrics put focus on both aspects then.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: guns_n_roses on March 15, 2007, 04:14:10 PM
okay so far,, YCBM is about drugs and a relationship... thank you... these songs are more fucked up lmao more and more. to hard on my wendys brain man! haha!



Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: rckn on March 15, 2007, 04:48:19 PM

The song is about her:

http://www.angiemccoy.com/flash.html


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: LunsJail on March 15, 2007, 04:54:15 PM

The song is about her:

http://www.angiemccoy.com/flash.html

True...but, the whole "breaking down my back...." section that was referenced originally could have been added by Axl during the UYI recording. He was known to have added things to certain songs, to the sometimes chagrin of certain band members. Some of the language there sounds like vintage Axl.  I still think at least that section is about Erin Everly. Argue with me all you want.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: snakepiter on March 15, 2007, 05:17:33 PM
the guy in the pictures looks a lot kinda like izzy>>>......


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Axlrose4eva on March 15, 2007, 05:34:08 PM
First of all its 100% not about Adler.  Its about Izzy's ex.  It was written before AFD was released because lines to it even appeared on the inner sleave of AFD.  Unravelling you could be mine would be like finding some hidden meaning or some odd wordplay/code or something.  This song was written 20 years ago...this horse is almost decayed.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: rckn on March 15, 2007, 05:47:47 PM
the guy in the pictures looks a lot kinda like izzy>>>......

Where?


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: jonnybgoode82 on March 15, 2007, 06:21:57 PM
U mean Andy McCoy?

Izzy basically modellled himself on Andy. Cue someone mentioning Keef Richards in 5.4.3.2.1.....

Anyway, as said Izzy wrote most of the lyrics, but Axl certainly added some at a later stage, definitely the 'rap' or 'rant' (as I prefer to call it) part in the middle, which is about another one of the legal scrapes he'd got himself in between AFD and UYI. Remember Bernie Taupin and Elton John contributed a line to this song, (yeah, only a line) but it shows they were worked on after 87.

I often wondered whether the push it for more mileage, call lawyers with ridiculous demands etc. bit was similar song subject matter to Right next door to hell.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: ferma on March 15, 2007, 10:48:23 PM
The song is about a bad relationship, not drugs. 

/thread


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: JimMorrison4 on March 16, 2007, 03:33:09 AM
The song is completly about drug experiences in 3rd person perspective meaning the heroin speaking to the individual just like the last verse of Coma. Listen and understand metaphors here-

I'm a cold heartbreaker fit to ''burn'' an I'll rip your heart in two and leave you ''lying'' on the bed. Basically how the drugs have a hold of whoevers life and you can't seem to shake it off at the time. Drugs destroy relationships and cause a heartbreak because by the time you ''Wake'' up and realize to get clean you have dragged your better half down with you to no turning back therefore it is a repetitive cycle and ''With the bitch slap rappin-maening banging heroin and cocaine tongue-meaning having that taste for the life of coke ''You get nothing done!''

Good lyrics

"Bitch-slap rapping" and "cocaine tongue" are phrases used to describe someone who basically says things that anger or upset you.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: RR Mafia on March 17, 2007, 07:57:10 AM
"With your bitchslap rappin and your cocain tounge, you get nothin done" 8)

Thats got to be one of the coolest, most rock n fuckin roll lyrics ever written. :yes:  Am I wrong? :smoking:


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: rckn on March 17, 2007, 12:04:35 PM

If you want to know about the influences, check this:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Hanoi-Rocks-Live-%40-The-Marquee?v=L-zA19gIdRw&search=hanoi%20rocks

Compare to GNR 1986...


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: LIGuns on March 17, 2007, 12:37:28 PM
I think "this couch trip is getting old" refers to him sleeping on the couch to often because of the turmoil in the relationship.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: monkeychow on March 17, 2007, 05:55:58 PM
I agree its about a relationship but surely there are some drug refrences...like "you've gone sketching too many times" is surely a refrence to crystal meth abuse....unless i've lost the plot with my drug lingo...anyone?





Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: ferma on March 17, 2007, 09:11:31 PM
I agree its about a relationship but surely there are some drug refrences...like "you've gone sketching too many times" is surely a refrence to crystal meth abuse....unless i've lost the plot with my drug lingo...anyone?


Someone who is (being) sketchy is behaving in an extremely agitated or highly emotional manner.

In the full context -
You've gone sketchin' too many times / Why don't ya give it a rest / Why / Must you find /Another reason to cry.

Basically, the girl is flipping out over nothing (from his point of view).  It could be that drugs are making her paranoid (eg cocaine abuse), but none of that is lyrically stated in the song, or even the point.

The guy in the song is basically telling her, "Look, we had a one-night stand.  It was great (maybe), but don't expect anything more out me (as far as a serious long-term relationship goes).  Stop complaining/crying/harassing me because you were expecting more than what was ever offered or promised between us.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 17, 2007, 11:58:52 PM
The song is completly about drug experiences in 3rd person perspective meaning the heroin speaking to the individual just like the last verse of Coma. Listen and understand metaphors here-

I'm a cold heartbreaker fit to ''burn'' an I'll rip your heart in two and leave you ''lying'' on the bed. Basically how the drugs have a hold of whoevers life and you can't seem to shake it off at the time. Drugs destroy relationships and cause a heartbreak because by the time you ''Wake'' up and realize to get clean you have dragged your better half down with you to no turning back therefore it is a repetitive cycle and ''With the bitch slap rappin-maening banging heroin and cocaine tongue-meaning having that taste for the life of coke ''You get nothing done!''


This interpretation is a stretch, and I just don't  see  it. Besides, the  quotes for the lyrics  are wrong.


Title: Re: unravelling you could be mine????
Post by: Krispy Kreme on March 18, 2007, 12:00:50 AM
Thanks so it has something to do with a relationship but there is no doubt that the song goes into deep about drugs and most likely Angela was pretty messed up on junk and coke and I like how the lyrics put focus on both aspects then.

Thanks  for that. News flash: I lived with a musician once, and guess what, they write about their  lives. How fucking odd.